the economic situation of muslims and the worldwide community will influence the way muslims see islam and see islam's spirituality as the way out of the dispair, out of the harmlessness, out of the -- homelessness and poverty that mums limbs have been experienced in the last 20 years. >> you serve as a muslim chaplain of georgetown university which is a roman catholic university in the sense it's run by jesuit priests, right? >> indeed, yeah. >> now, how is that going? >> i think it has gone, so far, very well. i have enjoyed working with the jesuits, with the roman catholic priests, with the protestants ministers and with the rabbis. >> do you have any muslims in your congregation at georgetown? >> i don't think i can -- i don't know exactly how many muslims are there at georgetown university, but i'm familiar with about 500-600 muslim students. and about 200 staffers and faculty members. >> have you noticed any kind of exoticism within the muslim community that's comparable in what we see from outcroppings from the spiritual -- the economic expansion of the '60s, anything like that?

and this is true with muslims true? >> well, islam -- islamic teaching is balanced between the economic and the wealth and the spiritual well-being. so both have to go hand in hand. and when people focus only on the economic advancements without the spirituality islam says that will take them eventually to their own direction. >> imam, you know that as this program proceeds we're going to be talking about what the koran says about jesus. >> yes, sir. >> and i think our audience is going to be quite surprised about what the koran does say about jesus. and how much it reveres jesus, while not, of course, assuming that he is the son of god. but that he is a prophet and he is a divine prophet, if a sense without actually having divinity we'll get to that? a moment. but you see opposite a gentleman that has been sitting patiently. he's not muslim, he's christian, he's southern baptist and he's a pastor here in washington, d.c., correct? >> true. >> do you have thoughts on anything we've been talking about here? notably the i

the economic situation of muslims and the worldwide community will influence the way muslims see islam and see islam's spirituality as the way out of the dispair, out of the harmlessness, out of the -- homelessness and poverty that mums limbs have been experienced in the last 20 years. >> you serve as a muslim chaplain of georgetown university which is a roman catholic university in the sense it's run by jesuit priests, right? >> indeed, yeah. >> now, how is that going? >> i think it has gone, so far, very well. i have enjoyed working with the jesuits, with the roman catholic priests, with the protestants ministers and with the rabbis. >> do you have any muslims in your congregation at georgetown? >> i don't think i can -- i don't know exactly how many muslims are there at georgetown university, but i'm familiar with about 500-600 muslim students. and about 200 staffers and faculty members. >> have you noticed any kind of exoticism within the muslim community that's comparable in what we see from outcroppings from the spiritual -- the economic expansion of the '60s, anything like that?

muslims. who do we depend on to give us tips and answers and help us track terrorists and prevent attacks? muslims. why does it matter to talk to regular muslims in a way that shows we understand they are not the problem? because it's the single most important thing we can do to keep ourselves safer. this shouldn't be controversial. >> to answer what mr. hannady said he asked why he couldn't say jihad killed 3,000 americans. read that to me for the effect on those people. >> if you are a teenage girl in india and you want to know do you understand about the threat threat in india to muslims and nonmuslims, do you understand what al qaeda is doing in our country, in pakistan, do you see muslim as more than ker chief-waving killers? you say what we know about islam is some of you killed 3,000 about us. that shows you don't know anything about the world outside your country. i don't know what sean wants but that's not what americans want the president to do. >> he wants money. when it comes to sh

muslims camend gave them money, house and food. >> muslims come to their village? no way this village will stand for the lord. remember nathan who lost everything when he became a christn he shares christ with others. garry lane, cbn news, malaysia. >> keep up with the reports at the blob or cbnnews. org. >> finally this week evangelist billy graham he is turning 92 years old. >> 92 year young. >> unbelievable. >> he is amainamazing, his gra says he has trouble seeing and hearing but likes to tell jokes and laugh much h enjo individualing an praying with his friends. all around the world millions upon millionof people touched by that one map. >> amazing the books and the crusades i got to be at the last in new york a couple years ago. i would not be surprised if he preached one more time >> pray for that. >> that is our report, thank you for joining own kadesh bar, a place of consecration and seration a place of determination go forward as god hasommanded us, or a place to shrink back. next time on...

indonesia has the largest muslim population of any country. during a speech in jakarta, the president praised indonesia for its religious tolerance. he said relations have improved recently between the u.s. and muslim countries, but he also insisted that still more needs to be done. >> we can choose to be defined by our differences, and give in to a future of suspicion and mistrust or we can choose to do the hard work of forging common ground and commit ourselves to the steady pursuit of progress. >> president obama's trip to indonesia also included a visit to the country's largest mosque. >>> religious and political leaders have condemned a continuing wave of violence against christians in iraq. earlier this week, several people were killed and many more wounded after roadside bombs were set off in predominantly christian areas of baghdad. al-qaeda in iraq had warned that it would continue to target christians following its violent attack last week on a catholic church there. the u.s. catholic bishops have urged president obama to do more to

and the muslim world. our question to start the show -- the president's outreach to the muslim world, do you support it or oppose it? the number to call -- it also find us on email and twitter. looking at "the washington post" coverage of the president's speech in indonesia yesterday. the president praises indonesia's's spirit of tolerance as a model. president obama cited the transition from dictatorship to democracy as a model. our question, do you agree with the president outreach to the muslim world? let's take a look at some of the comments president obama made yesterday in jakarta. visiting on this trip, indonesia it is deep and spirituality, a place where people worship god in many different ways. along with this rich diversity, it is also home to the world's largest muslim population. a truth i came to know as a boy when i heard the call to prayer across djakarta. just as individuals are not defined solely by their faith, indonesia is defined by more than its muslim population. but we also know tha

on the celebration of aids and also in russian muslim russian muslim areas of russia many of them in the south of the country many followers there i've had a day off it's a day off in those muslim regions as part of a sort of agreement to keep things well organized today all across russia when there will be sacrifices of animals it's a range those are done in private out of public view to try and maintain the cohesion there throughout russia and there's but in general it's very supportive atmosphere for muslim worshippers here in moscow there is a bit of a problem the number of muslims has been increasing loss in recent years and despite having one of the largest muslim populations in europe there are only four mosques here so it seems that in coming years as the number of muslims increase the number of facilities needed the number of space needed for worship will also have to increase right tom gardner thanks very much indeed for this update and bring us the details on how the muslim holiday is celebrated here in moscow and around the world. and brings us up to date and right now ta

indonesia is defineby more than its muslim population. relations between united states and muslim communities have frayedover many years. as president, i have made it a priority torepair these relations. >> he is hoping for greater cooperation with indonesia the war on terror. >> america is not and never will be at war with islam. all of us must work together to defeat alaeda. >> the president and first lady toured the istiglal the largest mosque in indonesia. it symbolizes its diversity. >> house of worship for many houses of muslims designed by a christian architect. islam flourishes, so do other faiths. >> religious right supporters say it is difficult for christians to flourish in indonesia. they raided christian villages and slaughter them. muslim majority create as hostile enviroent for christian climate. >> reporter: gone are the brutal massacreof the past, intent is the same. destroy christianityand create an islamic state throughout indonesia. >> 10 years has past people arstill suffering, es especially thosethat convert from mus

you're right, darfur is muslim-muslim. these are the kindh of nuances which are essential to understand to try to decode some of this, oh, it'ss christian-muslim all the time. no, it's not. it's the fault lines within that are truly the most important to watch.fne >> host: we haven't talked about ethiopia orgy beauty.: >> guest: okay, ethiopia. probably my most favorite story that i learned in doing this book was i didn't go to ethiopia until very late in the reporting, and before i went i learned that in 615 s.d. when the prophet muhammad was a 40-something rich trader preaching to his own people inow mecca, in saudi arabia, theyh kicked him out.t. they didn't want to hear thisear message of one single god, and he fled with most of his followers 210 miles away to medina, the city of the prophet. at that same time, 615 a.d., islam wasn't really a religion yet. he sent a dozen of his followers to africa. whysome because he wanted them in the safest place he could think of, and that was in the court of a christian king.o and

, to be afraid of muslims, to disrespect muslims, if we would have voices out of that side come out andou know, this is wrong, there's nothing to fear about muslims. muslims are our neighbors. they've lived here just as long as we have. they are engaged and active members in our community, had we had voices from the side of the political campaigns that were pushing this say that, i think it would have really -- it could have cut the edge off of the violent rhetoric and the hate rhetoric that has come out, but, of course, if you have voices that say we shouldn't be hateful, we shouldn't be violent, we shouldn't be fearful, that would undermine a campaign that's based on hate, violence, and fear. so that's obviously why no one from the political campaigns on that side came out with those sentiments. >> muneer awad, bearing a lot of grief and getting a lot of abuse right now for his position there and for having launched this lawsuit defending religious freedom, thanks for your work, thanks for being here, and good luck to you. >> thank you for having me. >> thanks. >>> ahead on "the last

scan me. >> bill: guilfoyle, a judge, muslim guy sued muslim said no to sharia law and international as far as its impact in the state of oklahoma. they voted. it was a proposition. and they said. no and this judge said, you know, this muslim guy may have a point so i'm going to stay it. this is all theater to me. it doesn't mean anything. but what was her rationale? >> ultimately she is saying look, we have to look into whether or not this is violating their rights or persecutes a certain religion, i'm going to issue a temporary restraining order and it's going to be stayed until november 22nd when i will decide if a permanent injunction should be issued banning this amendment. >> bill: once again overturned the will of the whole state. >> absolutely. legislating from the bench. >> overturning it. all she has said so far i'm going to wait until november 22nd and i'm going to have a hearing on whether international law can apply. let me tell you, justice roberts at his confirmation hearing talked about -- >> bill: you said there was some problems with the proposition the way it was w

i think a clear message was sent to the muslim world. to jihadi sympathizing countries and governments across the world, yes, obama is back in business. >> sean: it's on the heels -- a student asks him on the trip. what do you think of jihad? what is your opinion of jihad? jihadism? the president's response is shocking. >> the phrase "jihad" has a lot of meanings within islam. and is subject to a lot of interpretations. but i will say that first islam is one of the world's great religions. all of us recognize that this great religions in the hands of a few extremists is extorted to justify violence. so i think one of the challenges that we face is how do we isolate the notions? >> sean: i look at that answer. it was tortured. for a guy who was supposed to be the great orator and had the ability to woo all the crowds. it was painful, tortured. he didn't answer the question. the question is what is your opinion of jihad? not of islam. i also sensed by his slow answer fear. he was projecting fear. did you get that impression? >> certainly,

he was a muslim. pure muslim according to the koran. >> this site in bethlehem is believed to be the burial place of rachel. the palastinians say it is a mosque. >> the great ironny abou rachel's tomb. in islamic tradition it wasn't called a mosque. this is a whole new invention of the palastinian authority from 1996. >> former u.n. ambassador dor ri can gold told cbn news about historic docunts proving muslims reck newsed the tomb as jewish. >> we have an imperial degree from 1830 which says rachel's tomb is a jewish site. >> benjamin netanyahu said of israel's 4,000 year connection to these placesand noted more than a billion people believe the historic documentation in the bible. the mosque designation was crucial to reving israeli-palastinian peace talk jews have traveled to these sites around the world for generations. >> to eradicate that history and turn them into muslim sites is a political agenda but not truth. >> an officialist of its national heritage site >> israelis are talking about the

worn in muslim. it was to challenge students to wear a hijab to see what it feels like, oppressive or liberating. it means modesty and keeps you from being objectified in society. it is associated with radicals and terrorism but the feedback they are getting on campus has been positive. >> a lot of people are saying, like, i don't respect that. i respect your faith and i respect your right to practice and i want to support you so i am going to wear it. that has been the reaction i am getting. a lot of people are just curious to see what it's like. >> the muslim students plan on organizing more events like this in the future. >>> this is islam week on campus and to celebrate the mosaic cross cultural are holding days of events to learn more about this misunderstood religion. they are there to talk to suhab web. she explained that sharia law and islamic isn't only a way of system but a way of life. it includes moral and religious that deals with muslims and it governs the life of worship. >> we wanted

for him to reach out to the muslim world -- and by that i mean countries that have a majority muslimslims that are living outside of the united states, i believe what he needs to do is really reach out to muslims within the united states. muslims have not seen a very large decrease in the problems that we've been having with the previous administration as far as the national security issue, the issues that we're having with law enforcement, the eeoc just published a report where discrimination and employment has increased against most muslims, so we would love to see those things addressed at home. >> the obama administration will say over this time period they have increased their engagement with the media with the muslim world. they're doing exchange programs by sending us scientists and educators to muslim countries. you think they still need to do more? >> it's great that he's reaching out to muslim countries but there are millions of muslims here in the united states and i think he would be able to show that america is a beacon for integration and for a substance for all people

what the problem we see here and i think this is something internally that muslims have to deal with but that we still can't be afraid to discuss is that when muslims are gathering in a post nine eleven paradigm and bringing in speakers it just seems like there's always someone there who's tied to radical extremism in the world in there's no way around it now say oh give me your thoughts on this because you have said that this is nothing more than just good old fashioned bigotry that's right as you rightly point out this prayer started the ninety's under the auspices of you can which is not a c.m.s. a prayer so to go after the congressional muslim staff association is erroneous to fox news unfortunately if they bother calling people they would find that out you know you have people that have gone to the ripped different reporters around town shopping around stories based on false information and unfortunately jenna winter at fox went ahead with the story that's why you have some historical in nature also information are you saying that in fact none of these people actually did approv

reputation in them muslim world. there is deep resentment towards the united states. 17 months ago, president obama made a speech in cairo aimed at ernest and sustained rebuilding of understanding with muslims worldwide. today, he said that there is a long way to go. on >> back in indonesia, his old home. for the first time as american president. he had come here twice before. today, barack obama finally arrived in jakarta. he met his indonesian counterpart to launch a new partnership between the two countries. >> expanding partnerships between our people, deepening political and security cooperation are the pillars of our new partnership which is do so much to the good work of my friend, the president. >> his name was on everyone's lips at his old school. they wrote a song on him and were getting ready for him to drop by. >> i knew him as a chevy boy. >> she knew him back then as a neighbor and school friend. >> a lot of people are muslim. maybe people expect that he will do something for the world. i do not know. d

increasing discrimination against muslims another blemish on america's human rights record. hundreds have been arrested in so-called f.b.i. for oil terror plots plots using government paid informants to set up the crime or practice other countries term entrapment aleesha mcwilliams maccollins nephew is among those caught in these web she warns the system is losing its bearings america's need to wake up because i am a woman how we go lives americans no one country has all the answers but all of us must answer to our own people question is when the people speak who is listening the us has rejected international calls to abolish the death penalty and dismissed several other recommendations leaving many to ask if u.s. exceptionalism means do as i say not as i do not artsy. as the obama administration tries to tackle human rights violations in the country former president george w. bush is once again sparking controversy this time with his new memoir was almost two years ago after leaving office america's forty third president is now having his say on his time in the white house

to his faith my first time going into a muslim village. i got beat up we were giving our bibles someone hated ortiz enough to drop off a package at his house thinking it had a candy inside his fifteen year old son opened it the pipe bomb nearly killed him in the blew him through the kitchen and made a hole in the most of the first one in this way but the back fire destroyed the refrigerant everything back. it took three years for israeli police to catch the perpetrator a religious jew ject title who lived in a nearby israeli settlement he'd already killed two arabs basis is very proud. of he began a favor by trying to cut off. across the west bank the story for palestinian christians is as bleak and the threat comes from both extremists jews and muslims bethlehem the believed birthplace of christ once boasted a population of eighty five percent christian today less than ten percent live here this woman is afraid to show her face she used to go to mantra square and teach about geezer's but all that ended after her house was nearly burned do

why do muslims not want to know what is in the scarves of other muslims?y were the last people i would trust if i am muslim. i am catholic and i am an 11-year-old boy. if i see a priest at a chuck-e-cheese and i am calling 9-1-1. >> i don't get -- there are people living in denial. they are like a whole religion of charlie sheen. what's going on? >> you just stole my charlie sheen eek jo. >> -- charlie sheen joke. >> wouldn't this encourage bombers to wear them? >> it is a new fashion, new trend. anyone can say they don't want to appear naked. like you said, etch's privacy. no one likes all this stuff, but we need to do it to continue the safety of our country. right? >> it is like, what do you want to do about it? >> i hate to remind people that some muslims have dressed up in women's clothing and hidden bombs under their clothes and detonated themselves. >> bill, you do the same inning this, but it is not for the sake of bombing. >> no, just saturday. why are they not respecting my religion? i went to school at our lady of the rub and tug, and they don't

has the muslim world stopped reaching back? we will have an exclusive interview with the muslim world. and are flight attendants revolting? that's mean to say, but they are not happy about the tsa's new pat down rules. i ripped off the revolting joke from an old comic strip. >> nice. >> and allen west joins us to talk about all things colonely and electy. >> t they slave, thou must leave to hang thyself. >> i would rather live with cheese and garlic in a wind mill. >> dude, you do live with cheese and garlic in a wind mill. >> i anticipate much suffering in your life. >> i apologize for nothing. >> why should you? >>> let's welcome our guest. there she is. her name? brooke goldstein. she is the founder of the children's wright institute and director of the law fair project. she is basically a loafer. show is so adorable puppies use pictures of her as their screen saver. didn't know puppies could use screen savers. if witt were a cross-word puzzle, board cleaning ladies would do him on the subway. my repulsive kick stand, bill s

muslims.uslims visited christians. christians visited muslims. we all got along. but after the collapse of saddam, everything changed. >> translator: in the past, they say, iraq's christians were an accepted and integral part of iraqi society. contribution was significant as the syrian archbishop of mosul says. >> translator: in the 1950s, dozens of doctors in mosul were all christian. christians opened the first schools, the first publishing house, the first theater, the first hospital. >> reporter: most importantly yet, christians were secure and protected under saddam hussein's government, but the arrival of american troops put the community in a difficult position, he adds. >> translator: the christians suffered from the advent of the americans because our muslim brother ace sumd because they were christians and we were christians we must be allies. so we had to defend ourselves against that. >> reporter: christian was not a part of the iraqi opposition to saddam, unlike most kurds and shi

first time going into muslim beliefs. i got beat up why a growing hatred of christians is the one thing israel's hardline muslims and jews agree on the victims of violence told their story in a few minutes on this channel. the u.s. is desperately trying to revive the stalled mideast peace talks by entice saying israel to extend its construction moratorium in occupied palestinian territories washington put on the table twenty two stealth fighter jets worth three billion dollars and a pledge to fight any international resolutions against israel in exchange it wants israel to halt construction in the west bank for three months with the u.s. promise not to ask to prolong it any further but the students though are criticizing that plan saying the proposed freeze will not apply to east jerusalem recent round of u.s. brokered peace talks became stuck just three weeks after they began after israel reaffirmed its commitment to continue building settlements in palestinian areas spoke to she's from the group representing jewish sett

going into a muslim village. i got beat up by a growing hatred of christians is the one thing israel's hardline muslims and jews of green on the victims of violence tell their story just a few moments. well after years of official denial finally taking action over claims of organ trafficking in cars of or at least seven people including a high ranking health official have been charged with luring foreign nationals to remove their kidneys for transplant one suspect is linked to the cause of our liberation army which was accused of selling the body parts of captured serbs during the yugoslav war saira further investigates. it was a war with a legacy of atrocities among the most shocking claims the alleged murders and harvesting of the organs of serbian war prisoners by members of the cause of a liberation army it's alleged to have happened in a place that became known as the yellow house in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine after the military technical agreement was signed q four and these two forces promise to

we take a look at how far some jews and muslims get from the one swamps plate. russia's police are marking their professional holiday on wednesday but it comes at a hard time for the force off to a string of high profile scandals its image has been tarnished the reform of the law enforcement system is on the way as artie's diapers kovar reports restoring public trust in the police is now an extremely difficult task. their pictures which shocked and asian and left the image of russia's law enforcers in tatters it's now over a year since this drunken shooting spree by police officer denise eve sickles killed two and wounded seven others but the case remains one of the most alarming in a series of high profile police candles it also came as a blow to people like former officer alexander of illusion who won the title hero of the soviet union for his work but he would recall watching log regretfully there are many years ago there i'm a former policeman myself but even i try to avoid police officers they have guns and they can shoot it was also lost here that a young

the anti-arab, and how muslim crowd that has done quite well for themselves. the stories recently about sort of commingling of the non-profit and profit money on the part of some of the characters is really quite disturbing. and, you know, there were some other political groups on israel's site. they did not engage in the activity they turned a blind eye to the fact that look, daniel pipes were steve emmerson were, you know, battering and tarnishing the image of the arab-american and muslim groups well, just let them to meet with a wink and a nod, they use their work and would never stand in the way of telling them or go to them and say stop, this is not in the interest of building harmony between people. you know, the networks i think have a real problem and the if field miserably. the rolodex has gotten thinner and thinner and stuff sadr. -- fatter. was there so many additional people -- >> guest: i don't know why it just the fact that maybe i told o'reilly to stop one too many times and he didn't want me back on. it wasn't something that i enjoyed doing. yo

it was opened by the muslim -- they had a muslim to open it for us. it shows why we consider all religions equal. >>> and here is an image of that. maybe we will go to break now when we come back we will pick up more about this very special program about sikh's and faith and sikh's in the bay area. that image of the golden temple in india >>> we are talking about the sikh faith and sikh's in the bay area. what does sikh mean? >> the word means learner, a student basically. we consider ourselves learning all the time and therefore new information comes in, we absorb it and use it as we go along. i think this is the teachings of the ten gurus which we will talk more in some detail >> sikhism is a religion based on the teachings of ten teachers whom we call as gurus. it was founded in the 15th century and he was followed by nine other living gurus and guru gorbansingh was the 10th. he ordained for the sikh's the form we see, identity we see the men wearing turbans and other articles of faith. it was the 10th guru -- >> what year did the 10th -- >> 1699 w

, given all the speeches about reached the muslim world. jewish community? >> guest: he looked at the whole that we were in a the end of the bush term where we were in a crisis all across the arab and muslim world and it was, you know from the work you do that there was no way you could underestimated the severity of the crisis from the unfinished war, peace process that was characterized by neglecting or recklessness on the part of the bush administration and all across the region the first challenge he faced was how do i get all of this whole? the first place to get all of the whole is to try to rebuild ties in the muslim and arab world. now he had gone to a pack twice. he given these remarkably pro-israel speeches. >> host: but he was running for office. >> guest: but believe me every word was listened to in the arab world as commitment on jerusalem, etc., retreated strongly on a difficult act and let's start here, let's start with the wound of gaza are still with us how we going to move forward so they appointed michel and of reach to t

and almost 2 million muslims congregate with the annual pilgrimage. hello to you. the army's pro-democracy leader aung san suu kyi tells the bbc she wants a peaceful revolution in her country in her first interview since being released from seven years of house arrest. she is sure democracy will follow it eventually. >> it is still only 48 hours since aung san suu kyi was freed to leave her house after seven long years and her supporters still cannot get enough of her. >> thank you very much. >> it is exhilarating, but even in the sweltering heat, she remains cool. and i found she was prepared to deal with the thorniest questions. >> do you want to see the military government fall? >> i would like the military government to take the initiative. i would like them to be the people who have decided that our country has the rights to certain standards of freedom. >> burma the kind of country that might have of velvet revolution or something rather topper? >> i have to confess, i do not see of bill that revolution. -- of velvet revolution. on non-violent revolution. let

oppresses muslims. one is to foster relations with muslims. the president says he wants to make sure america is building bridgeses. his words with muslim countries. we're going to talk about his efforts to reach out to the muslim world at the bottom of the hour. in the meantime, former president george w. bush showed up bright and early at a store in dallas, texas, to sign copies of his new memoir, decision points. this went on sale today if you haven't heard about it. about 500 people lined up at that store. some waited overnight to see the president kick off this book tour. in an exclusive interview, the former president talked about his mistakes and the most controversial decisions including waterboarding terrorist suspecteds. >> let's talk about waterboarding. we believe america is going to be attacked again. there's all kinds of intelligence coming in. and one of the high valued operatives ordered the attack on 9/11. they say he's got information. i said, find out what he knows. and so i said to our team, are the techniques legal? and a l

foreign policy.thmusl this is muslim-on-muslim violence. thly d the only difference between these people is a religious.ous it has nothing to do with israel this is suny waking up in thethu morning deciding that it is wodying worth dying for the privilege oo blowingf up shia apostolates. i want to linger over theset eetails. th i fear it is difficult for ve secularyr people to connect with just how deeply these beliefs are held. this is a -- they bombed a-- procession of syria, but thenthe they sent of a suicide bomber t bomb thes hospital when the ambulances came in with then casualties. this photograph is outside the hospital with the doctors and a nurses and casualties.just just imagined. this is creativity, a smart ides on the suicide bombers part.p if someone had to volunteer for this. you just look at the aftermath. you look at this girl over the body of her mother. h it seems to me that it isther obvious that this is smallpox for the mind.the there is nothing good about thig . it is not -- the crucial point u want to make is it is no