in the middle east and north africa the transitions to democracy have inspired the world but they have also exposed and religious minorities to new dangers. people have been killed by their own neighbors because of their ethnicity or their faith in other places we've seen governments stand by while sectarian violence inflamed by religious animosities chair's communities are part. strategy of taking sides and starting to unravel experts say syria won't be the last in line for us results than it is to plan reports. as nations in the middle east and north africa are torn between the struggle to bring about change and the struggle not to let change ruin their lives washington views the arab spring as an opportunity to finally see some of its longtime foes crumble even though. iran is not an arab country the arab spring. and i think in many ways it's a matter of time before that kind of change. and revolution occurred. under the umbrella of arab revolutions washington is also beating the drums of regime change in syria iran's closest ally in the region violence within the country has been w

as nations in the middle east and north africa are torn between the struggle to bring about change and the struggle not to let change ruin their lives washington views the arab spring as an opportunity to finally see some of its longtime foes crumble you know. iran is not an arab country the arab spring. and i think in many ways inch a matter of time before that kind of change. and revolution occurred in the last under the umbrella loaf arab revolutions washington is also beating the drums of regime change in syria iran's closest ally in the region violence within the country has been widely condemned countries like russia and china call for both sides in syria to talk and in the bloodshed while america is blaming assad alone i think of just like a dolphin or not let's hope that russia shot is next and they've overthrown khadafi they're going to have a proxy or client government in tripoli the next step is syria they want to overthrow syria next they take advantage of any movement that exists in syria to overthrow the assad government now they have a more democratic government a more h

in the middle east and north africa the transitions to democracy have inspired the world but they have also exposed and religious minorities to new dangers. people have been killed by their own neighbors because of their ethnicity or their faith in other places we've seen governments stand by while sectarian violence inflamed by religious animosities chairs communities apart. well also among the uprisings washington was the revolution in egypt where the muslim brotherhood is now threatening not a new mosque since of parliamentary elections. and more on what's ahead for egypt that's cost lives is the model he's a former israeli ambassador to the country and many passage warning us here on mr mansell the muslim brotherhood is considered a terrorist organization by many countries are kind of forced do you think they represent in egypt. well unfortunately that represent a very important force in egypt. became illegal after the revolution in egypt even founded a political party is justice and liberty something like these and they are considered the most important force because in the last t

or north africa or anywhere else in the world and for that matter indeed the international players as they constantly are doctoring to the conditions on the ground are forced their hands are forced often by events with the case of interventions in the balkans for instance i suspect there's been a great deal of collusion between certain players and so-called members member nations and the nato alliance with some of the key players on the ground including the most of his regime we often forget that there are some strong indications and very strong opinions voiced by various players in both the united states and in western europe in regards to protecting the sovereignty of their sovereign claims that serbia had an intervention intervening first in northern balkans in one thousand nine hundred ninety one ninety two and then later on ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine and similarly in north africa i suspect that there was a great deal of hedging there was and waiting it out and see how things were turned out i don't think i don't think the international players actually appreciated what

one ninety two and then later on ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine in kosovo similarly in north africa i suspect that there was a great deal of hedging there was and waiting it out and see how things were turned out i don't think i don't think the international players actually appreciated what was happening on the ground they were caught by surprise and indeed intervention in libya let me go back and then and it is part of the montauk my part of my introduction here i mean this is the law of unintended consequences i mean if the decision is made in depending on how legal it is and in many cases it isn't a bush appointee that is just completely illegal without any legal foundation at all the fact of the matter is when you have an intervention like this you never know where it can go and people are cheering something might have happened ok in libya but it's far from over far far from over going. well resolution one thousand nine hundred seventy three is not completely illegal the russian how we see what was interpretation when saddam was interpreted is this is the is the issue at hand h

once known and, i'm not kidding, as the claudia schiffer of north africa.guards? well, gadhafi insisted they all be named aisha, in honor of his beautiful daughter. that's odd. and made us think that she might give a glimpse into the weird world of the gadhafis. the colonel had seven fairly unsavory sons including one called hannibal, who was arrested for beating up a girlfriend in paris. another who is a washed up pro soccer player and a couple who are in the army. and his heir apparent, the hard-partying saif, who just told a reporter on the phone, victory is near. but there in the wreckage of daddy's palace, after the rebels smashed his compound, there's aisha's face in bronze. in her own abandoned home, rebels threw open the doors for all to see. they gawked at the gaudy about luns, a tv in the bathroom, and a jacuzzi. our own jeffrey kofman was there. >> when you see how she lived, what do you think? >> reporter: how could she live like this? the rebels cooled off in her pool. aisha had a gold-plated couch, a mermaid with aisha's face. and her personan

the us is voicing concerns about the threat of sectarian violence in the middle east and north africa following the uprisings it's so enthusiastically back in her annual report on religious freedom secretary of state hillary clinton urged arab nations not to trade one form of repression for another well for more on this let's cross to our correspondent lucic of one of she is live in washington so lisa we heard some cautious statements there from hillary clinton how do they fit with what we've previously heard from washington. well we can only speculate about the actual implications for u.s. foreign policy but what we're seeing is a rather surprising shift in the rhetoric out of this white house when it comes to the so-called arab spring and i remember in the early weeks of the uprising in egypt a lot of caution from from the united states in terms of the uprisings there which has really shifted and developed into a sort of full throated enthusiasts of port for democracy and regime change abroad in certain countries the united states of course spearheaded the libyan invasion and has gr

is watching concerns about the threat of sectarian violence in the middle east and north africa following the uprisings it so enthusiastically backed in her annual report on religious freedom secular state hillary clinton urged arab nations not to trade one form of repression for another. one of reports from washington. what we're seeing is a rather surprising shift in the rhetoric out of this white house when it comes to the so-called arab spring and i remember in the early weeks of the uprising in egypt a lot of caution from from the united states in terms of the uprisings there which has really shifted and developed into a sort of full throated enthusiast except port for democracy and regime change abroad in certain countries now i want to play you hillary clinton in her own words not that long ago calling for democracy in those two countries must go and the libyan people deserve to determine their own future the transition to democracy in syria has begun and it's time for assad to get out of the way while strong words but let's contrast that to the secretary of state hillary clinton s

on north africa. or indeed on north sea guess what it's seeking to do is use a point. between a variety of suppliers and liberal interest groups. and nobody is disputing pitch among them there are actually russian will ease and will continue to be the most important. greek prime minister has canceled the trip to the u.s. and the country's worsening debt crisis george welcome very was due to attend the u.n. general assembly and meets with the i.m.f. chief but said the next week was crucial for implementing deficit reducing plans at home while this comes as euro zone leaders choose to wait until october before ruling on whether to release the next eight billion euro bailout package to greece despite a recently announced property tax athens has been criticized for missing a series of bad lives and failing to implement reforms quickly enough research without e.u. help it has only enough cash to last until mid october but the national journalist you have had over developed says the only way for greece to rebuild its shattered economy is to leave the euro. and the greek econ

about this you have to ask why the north atlantic treaty organization intervenes in south asia or north africa various other places which are nothing to do with the north atlantic this was set up after the second world war in opposition to the warsaw pact countries the warsaw pact was dissolved some years ago but nato is becoming more militaristic it's getting more and more money from particularly countries like the u.s. and britain in order to carry out its operations but i think it's very worrying they're all saying this is a great success this rehabilitates the whole notion of humanitarian intervention it does nothing of the saw many thousands of people have been killed in libya including many by nato bombing and also we should remember we heard exactly this before in two thousand and two thousand and three when again afghanistan and iraq are said to be success stories very few people now claim oliver of those was a success you look at what happens in these countries of internationally ok people have got no better off ok there you go right ahead. you know i have to take a couple of issues w

not take place in libya it took place in europe and this is nothing but an attempt to colonize north africa and they are beginning with libya which has the most lucrative oil resources in africa they have a higher standard of living in africa so this is clearly an act of forced removal and definitely regime change colonel gadhafi remains a man on the run two weeks after rebel forces overran tripoli his whereabouts are unknown and some reports suggest he may even have fled abroad but the rebels believe he is still in libya and one of his numerous secret bunkers where if a national went to ground for r.t. to gauge the scale of the challenging hunt for gadhafi. what's been hidden from the eyes of the public for many years remaining just one of the legends about the colonel became a bailable once the rabble to keep police here it is the answer and keep it up is underground city. we're going down to sign in arabic at the hatch says the rats they sway this is what people in the cold feet believe in his run away under the ground hiding from the rebels. there is no sound here of separate aeration t

leoni lakhani from marketplace middle east, abu dhabi. >> north africa has been the focus for many ofion's investors. tunisia saw total foreign direct investment triple in the time between the 9/11 attacks and the revolution, according to u.n. figures. investment has now fallen off and has come to a standstill. tunisia is looking to the country for support. the gulf arab countries need to do more says the finance minister. >> most of the investments came from europe and the percentage of investments that came from the gulf is, in my opinion, very, very modest compared to the potential that could have come from the region and i have every reason to believe today with the changing conditions and the new opportunities that tunisia will offer that there would be significantly more investments coming from the gulf. >> i had the chance to talk to your central bank governor who didn't think that the g8 or even the arab governments in the gulf states are responding fast enough to what is a crisis in north africa, the pressures after the arab spring. >> we were hoping already that there would

north africa. or indeed or not see. what it's seeking to do is use and point a balance between a variety of suppliers delivering through routes and nobody is disputing good among that variety russian will ease and will continue to be the most important. the greek prime minister has canceled his trip to the u.n. generally general assembly meetings in america to deal with this country's worsening debt battle well greece only has enough cash to see it through the next few weeks and years of finance ministers are now sitting on their eight billion euro second bailout payment or they say the country has fallen behind on its spending cuts guess as mysteries of deadlines we still have to wait until october to find out whether it will get the second law happen says that it's on the for it should be able to pay the interest on its massive debt for some experts it's too late to say they can economy and it must exit the euro zone or it's so good. the greek economy is in an outright depression now keep in at the moment seven to eig

poorly for the future of libya and i think broadly that this is a threat to people throughout north africa and indeed across the world so the united states britain france and italy to some extent i mean these powers have essentially portrayed this intervention as a humanitarian venture to protect civilian life. this is been a fraud from the very outset and hardly a new excuse for the united states i think you could go back to eighty ninety eight and say every war ever waged by the united states or us imperialism has been waged in the name of protecting civilians humanitarianism and democracy. it was in our team coming to you live from moscow here's word still i have for you and the program the international war crimes tribunal turns to our t.v. for it hobby of an interview with genocide suspect. he made serious accusations against un peacekeepers in the ninety's balkans conflict. and the russian village is dying out we'll look at why people are fleeing rural areas leaving desolate fields and crumbling houses where thriving communities one state. russia has come down the last sanctions agai

are and to talk more about the situation in libya syria and what's happening in the middle east north africa joining me. professor of political science at yale university thank you very much for being with us i'd like to get in with. with libya in fact we have nico margiela saying that he feels like mistakes haven't been learned from in terms of iraq and afghanistan what do you think your future holds for libya and how can the country get out of the situation that it's it well i think it's i think there's probably a right on the mark i think that the most comparison is with afghanistan because you're really dealing with something much different so-called arab spring. and. you tip into lesser iran you're really dealing with the civil war which is by no means over i mean even. if gadhafi is defeated and all killed which he said i think he's left the country now that doesn't mean the civil war will end either most of the leaders of the opposition were members of paid off he's government until. a few months ago. they don't have any history of promoting democracy and i don't see any particular re

the us says voicing concerns about the threat of sectarian violence in the middle east and north africa following the uprisings it so enthusiastically backed in her annual report on religious freedom secretary of state hillary clinton urged arab nations not to trade one form of repression for another or for more let's cross to our correspondent on and she's in washington d.c. so we've heard some some cautious statements by hillary clinton there to some extent it sounds like she is knowledge of the u.s. as well i suppose shot itself in the foot here is this likely to signal any sort of change in u.s. policy. well given given the factions within this administration i doubt that it actually signals and change in foreign policy but i would say most of the experts i've talked to says that they say that this is an about face a drastic shift in the rhetoric that we've seen coming out of the obama administration here in the united states now what began a sort of cautious extreme caution in the early early weeks of the gyptian revolution has really developed as you just mentioned into almost a f

on russian gas in exactly the same way that it doesn't want to become agreed on north africa. or indeed or not see. what it's seeking to do is. between a variety of supply. stroup. i know greece. actually russia will ease and will continue to be the most important. and great prime ministers cancel the trip to the us have made the countries worsening debt crisis george pub and rare was due to attend the un general assembly and meet with the i.m.f. chief but said next week was no crucial for implementing deficit juicing plans at home this comes eurozone leaders choose to wait until october before ruling on whether to release the billion euro bailout package to greece despite a recently announced problem tax athens has been criticized for missing a series of deadlines and failing to implement reforms quickly enough with the death in europe spiralling out of control struggling countries notably italy of the look of the health of the east the francis learn from our conversation vessel holding company says chinese power isn't in some solution and europe needs to solve its problems.

great omar al the verify executive director of west asia north africa forum thank you very much for taking time to speak to us here at the global policy forum in europe will we will be here throughout the day bringing you the latest expertise and analysis as leaders and of course the best experts gather here to discuss the most pressing issues. in our teens and use in our way of life for us in your arsenal of all thanks for that report. hope for a better country but not as part of the united kingdom there's a strong sense of national identity in wales that has helped fuel calls for him to achieve independence following similar calls for the north and scotland was artie's more and it reports the debate continues to rage over whether welsh ambitions are driven by economic sense or emotion welcome to wales policy of the u.k. and a proud nation with its own language and customs and the latest voice to call for independence plights comrie which means the potency of wales has always all acute the country could be better off without the u.k. and it seems increasing numbers are starting to see the

outset it has been waged for definite material interest largely oil geo strategic placement in north africa a means of countering the revolutionary upheavals that have taken place on libya's borders both in tunisia and egypt now what will nato do in its day and it says it's protecting civilians and reading an air war against civilians its trained so-called rebels who have now been implicated in massacres of civilians including sub-saharan african migrant workers so i think this is a bodes very poorly for the future of libya and i think point broadly that this is a threat to people throughout north africa and indeed across the world so the united states britain france and italy to some extent i mean these powers have essentially portrayed this intervention as a humanitarian venture to protect civilian life. this is been a fraud from the outset it's hardly a new excuse for the united states i think you could go back to eighty ninety eight and say every war ever waged by the united states by us imperialism has been waged in the name of protecting civilians humanitarianism and democracy. you're

i was the executive director of west asia north africa forum thank you very much for being with us. let's start with syria just because we're hearing a lot about what's happening there what do you think first of all is the way to go is it sanctions and how much do you think that's going to be debated here in europe . i don't think you can take syria out of context i think what we're seeing is as it's called the spring or the out of the way of awakening it's a regional phenomenon it's happening in the arab world and therefore what's happening in syria is not this thing detracts from what's happening in the region what's happening in the region is that as opposed to sort of reform which is taking place and has taken place for the last six months or so it's thought that goes through all you know as we all know in tunisia went on to egypt yemen and syria and that's part of the same happening why do we have such different reactions from the west nato per se to each country if it's all part of the same revolution or say well the way the world is reacting is probably different tests to. wh

dominance this means the pentagon wants to control what they call the arc of instability from north africa going through the middle east to central asia so expect major interventions you know archie sat down with russian ambassador to the u.n. to tally churkin to get his take on the u.s. role in syria and what is possibly ahead i want to play a little piece of that interview for you and how do you respond to all of what some critics. gloss this is not their intention to use military force well incidentally we have to remind them that statements in the sure has from them a value source when we were working on that resolution libya which we're very quickly forgotten about in libya. so i mean what do you think of that he's saying it's hard to trust you know a partner here look at mr churchill mr glover of course they are right and remember mr gorbachev twenty years ago when he was assured by george bush father that nato would never try to take over their countries from the iron curtain they were never told their extract so the emerging russian see what happened and gorbachev has been talking

of the international survey of the global situation in the north of africa in the middle east in the european leagues and the global crisis have shown that we have joined police for the new ways to use those eels new post-crisis wall dollar and we have discussed repeatedly that it would be . with mr prime minister here in the meetings. which one place i meant and leave it to the government to discuss this issue should it have a vote economy or learn a new stadium recently where in the smaller states we have slowed our north push them getting me a little when. we are doing noble well now what are no grew by twenty one percent and was reached sixteen ballou is the and going to. double this is a good fielder because not only turnover is growing but mutual investments are growing as well it's just you know what aspirations to bring this investment to the guaranteed level and to ensure the. legal framework of why it's to this investment and. to ensure that there. the beneficial. investments of british companies and what i'm going to do carry a big of a huge importance. when incarceration

it was his first stop in a three-nation tour of north africa.looking to build stronger takes with his arab neighbors, particularly egypt. but as ivan watson reports, israel's relation with both countries is worsening. >> reporter: an angry mob attacks the embassy of israel in cairo on the night of september 9th. tearing down walls and forcing israeli diplomats to leave the country. the riot triggered a diplomat crisis among two allies. in cairo, reactions mixed. "this shouldn't have happened. it was a sin to destroy property and attack the police," this man says. the israelis are our enemies says another man. egypt's gotten a lot more unpredictable since last winter's people power protests toppled authoritarian president hoseny mubarak. it didn't help matters when israeli troops accidentally killed six egyptian border guards after a deadly terrorist attack left eight israelis dead last month on nearby israeli soil. israel expressed regret but still hasn't at poll hissed for the incident. then there's another factor, turkey. until recently israel

and nays in various forms appear from north africa all the way to western china in very many different kinds of forms. and the nay that i play is associated with turkey. it is this shape, this profile here, that is said to give the turkish nay its particular tonal timbre. but the real place where timbre lives is inside the instrumentalist's heart and head. if the instrumentalist doesn't hear the timbre in the instrument and the music, then the audience won't hear it either. (narrator) while materials and construction are critical in determining the timbrel capabilities of an instrument, it is the musician who makes the instrument come to life. in essence, the instrument becomes the unique musical voice of the player. (redman) i think the connection that you feel with an instrument is oftentimes beyond literal or verbal description. but i think one thing that really attracted me to the sound of the tenor saxophone was its incredible emotional range. [saxophone plays jazzy staccato music] the tenor saxophone can be a very, very tender and sensitive instrument. [resonating, mellow melody]

. >> speaking to a professor, an expert on north africa at cambridge university, he explained to me significanceof the standoff in the town of bani walid. >> well, i think what you're seeing is an extremely complicated situation emerging. it consists on one hand of remnants of colonel gaddafi's forces who were defeated there and are not willing to give up the fight partly because they fear they will be killed if they do. associated with them are elements of the tribe, one of libya's largest tribes in support to have regime. but there is an even bigger number of people from the same tribe opposed to the gaddafi regime. that poses great mention the been a band a major problem -- great tension in bani walid. it fears it may actually have to fight. >> colonel gaddafi himself, where do you believe him to be now? >> that is a very interesting question, and in some respects, i think everyone would like to know the answer to that. the latest information i have come across is he is not actually in bani walid. he is to the south of it. somewhere between aljaffra and an oasis there. he is guarded by forces

these are interesting times in north africa and the middle east. winds of change sweeping the region. three authoritarian regimes have been toppled, and protests continued in several countries. the people of morocco are also hoping demonstrations will bring change to their country. the king responded swiftly once the discontent of the moroccan people became evident. he promised modest reforms and elections, but still has full control of the army and the right to dissolve parliament. he also has the final say on religious issues and most aspects of the justice system. we take a look at morocco's chances for change. >> morocco is a mixture of tradition and a madonna the. the country has long been regarded as politically stable. it is a constitutional monarchy ruled by king mohammed the sixth. he came to the throne in 1999. his late father is remembered as a tyrant. mohammed wanted to modernize the state. the constitution and parliament were created, but most power remained with the king. king mohammed enjoys widespread support among the people. he is