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in a year end interview with npr news, he says failure to keep the public informed has contributed to fears that not enough is being done. he says the most damage the group can do to the u.s is to they live or what they believe. army sergeant bowe bergdahl is scheduled to appear in a military court tomorrow on charges of desertion and endangering yellow soldiers. he was held captive by the taliban for almost five years after leaving his unit. the white house purdue -- a group -- approve the release of five taliban members in exchange for bergdahl. the crash of a small plane in southern california that killed five people is under investigation today. authorities say the plane sent out a distress call during a flight from san jose to nevada. the plane crashed into an almond orchard near bakersfield. a woman is in custody today in las vegas today, accused of deliberately ramming her car into crowds of pedestrians on the las vegas strip. one person was killed and dozens of others were injured. it's new at noon. john: in a moment of horror, the driver of this car barreled through a busy la

>>> developing tonight, new controversy over president obama's lengthy sit-down interview with npr newshe president appears to suggest that racism, at least partly fuels criticism of him. take a look. >> are there certain circumstances around being the first african-american president that might not have confronted a previous president? absolutely. if you're talking about the specific virilence of some of the opposition directed towards me, then, you know, that may be explained by the particulars of who i am. >>> this isn't the first time that president obama suggested at least some criticism of him has more to do with the color of his skin than the content of his politics. that's a notion kevin williamson took serious issue today writing in part -- the president says that much of the unhappiness with his administration is pretty specific to me and who i am and my background. he's really saying it's about his critics and their bigotry and prejudice. president obama thinking the way he is perceived at not being specifically good at his job, are spectacularly spectacular he is. joe trippi

npr. thegood news is -- >> talk radio, really? >> the chatter. >> they're not going to hear something and get all upset? why the brooklyn nets are doing so bad? [laughter] no one's going to flip out? >> i think the talk radio's nice for them bause it was the human voice, the human chatter, and i just think it's a nice thing to have a little background noise on. television -- because there can be variations in pitches and sounds fending upon what you listen to -- >> so not the pet animal channel or manager like that. my friends in phoenix would put it on the animal channel. is that good or bad? >> no, i think that's a nice decision for them, you know? one of my cats really likes watching television. and she'll just sit down and hunker down and watch. this way -- qvc. [laughter] thank you so much. >> you going to give me a kiss no? >> he's, like, i'm not much of a kisser. >> you're just smelling me. i use listerine. all right, i'll give you one. when we come back, healthy alternatives as you are making your way through those holiday

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in a new interview released today with npr, president obama said the u.s.ill not relent in the strikes against the terror group. >> if you are living in a town that historically relied on coal and you see coal jobs diminishing, you're probably going to be more s susceptible to the argument i've been wiping out the economy in your area. it doesn't matter if i tell them it's right because natural gas is a lot cheaper now. if you are living in a town that historically relied on coal and you see coal jobs diminishing, you're probably going to be more susceptible to the argument -- >> our apologies. that was the wrong bit of sound from the president. we will find that for you. we want to talk more about what happened both in afghanistan today, these air strikes, the u.s., strategy to fight isis. joining us now, colonel jack jacobs, medal of honor recipient. we'll do our best to get that other bit of sound back. i'd like to get your rack. it's alarming somebody could get that close on a motorcycle. >> we conduct these missions all the time in afghanistan where am

. >> in a new interview this morning on npr radio, bush takes aim at front-runner donald trump, comparingto president obama. >> i would argue that donald trump is in fact a creature of barack obama. but for barack obama, donald trump's effect would not be nearly as strong as it is. we're living in a divided country right now and we need political leaders rather than continuing to divide us as both president obama and donald trump do, to unite us. >> joining me is democratic strategies and republican strategist, both of you welcome. joe, i want to start with you as we dive into this. you heard jeb bush right there talking about a shake-up, saying that it's not out of desperation and sharpening his attacks on donald trump. you know, you got to consider single digits, the amount of money the super pac has sunk in with ads there. is he reaching for the life preserver here? >> no, he's doing the right thing. with the iowa caucuses right around the corner followed by new hampshire and south carolina and other key primaries, you've got to have people on the ground to wage battle for you. the onl

press club awards, 42 emmys, you have been managing editor of the discovery channel and news analyst for bbc on npr. as someone who is been in journalism for a long time, what do you think of the state of today's journalism? how is it doing? and please give your answer in the form of a list of 17 cats that look like world leaders. >> well, we've got mao tse-tung, we've got...no. look, the state of journalism... we are so fragmented now, we have so much journalism. everyone is in competition for a tiny little fragment of the audience. and whereas 30 or 40 years ago we used to be in competition to try and give people the news that they need, now we're in competition to give people the news that they want. and people like you end up doing more serious studies of serious subjects, in a funny way, than news people. >> stephen: trying to get me fired, ted? >> no! hell, no. >> stephen: well, you've done a serious study in your new book, >> we are about to determine whether the colbert bump still works. >> stephen: oh. ( cheers and applause ). you know what? much like-- much like samantha on "bewitched" wo

he spoke about the news cycle as he called it following the paris attacks in a recent interview over the weekend with npr, national public radio. listen to this. >> post-paris you had a saturation of news about the horrible attack there. and isil combines viciousness with very savvy media operations. and as a consequence if you've been watching television for the last month, all you've been seeing, all you've been hearing about is these guys with masks or black flags who are potentially coming to get you. and so i understand why people are concerned about it. and this is a serious situation, but what is important is for people to recognize that the power, the strength of the united states and its allies are not threatened by an organization like this. >> he also says that the news media is just pursuing ratings, at least in part. is that fair criticism by the president? >> well, you're asking me, wolf, but as someone who's been in the military for a while and thought about these issues, i have to say the president's right if you look at the big picture on this. america's a very safe country to live in. t

this is an organization taking the lead, you listen to npr, see them on all nightly news shows as leading islamic group to deal with bettering islamic relations in america, there are question whether they're closer to the bad guys than the good guys? >> you raise a great point which is too bad right now. our nation is having a conversation callingnal sills of what happened in san bernardino, how did they get radicalized? what i'm hearing a discussion how they became operationalized when they went to get weapons, separated out et cetera. radicalization is started by groups like cair, many of mosques tellmus him, that west is against muslims, that they're bigoted. they spread anti-semitism, conspiracy theories. radicalization happens over years. we can't address that unless we engage muslims part of western experiment. because listens not only the three, four million muslims in america, we are essential in this global battle against a movement which has a quarter of the world's population. if you operationalize our reform movement we have to get it right publicly when you have the large pla

. >> in a new interview this morning on npr radio, bush takes aim at republican front-runner donald trumping him to president obama. >> i would argue that donald trump is, in fact, a creature of barack obama. but for barack obama, donald trump's effect would not be nearly as strong as it is. we're living in a divided country right now, and we need political leaders rather than continuing to divide us, as both president obama and donald trump do, to unite us. >> joining me now live, betsy woodruff political reporter for "the daily beast." she's in washington, d.c., for us. betsy, good morning to you. jeb bush there ramping up his attacks on donald trump, you know, shaking up his campaign. now, despite what he says, is all of that a sign, you think, of desperation with him lingering in single digits in the national polls? >> i think it's certainly a sign of stress. and this isn't the first time that jeb's made some really dramatic campaign shifts. back this summer, he changed how the campaign was managed. then in october, he cut a number of staffers' salaries. he fired some consultants. and

in 1986 he became one of npr's finest foreign correspondent mostly in latin america and new york and covering wars throughout the world after returning from overseas tom gjelten covered u.s. diplomacy in military affairs from the state department and the pentagon where he was reporting live the moment it was hit on september 11th, 2001. more often he covers the changing religious landscape in america, a graduate of the university of minnesota and began his professional career as a public-school teacher. we are pleased to welcome our moderator who writes for the boston globe editorial page where she has been a contributor since 2013 writing editorialss, she is a frequent commentator on wg b t radio and worked in the boston business journal. six times the year the kennedy library is on it to serve as the host site for a special federal court proceedings in which recent immigrants are nationalized. these unique ceremonies remind me of a treasured moment in the history of my family when the adoption of our son and daughter who were born in guatemala and south korea were finalizing course

npr. >> blue collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy where they are no longer getting theame bargain they got when they were going to factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck. you combine those things and it means that there is going to be potential anger, frustration, fear. some of it justified but just misdirected and, you know, i think somebody like mr. trump is taking advantage of that. i mean, that's what he's exploiting during the course of his campaign. >> joining me now is sam clovis, the co-chairman to the trump national campaign and van jones, former senior official in the obama white house. so sam, what do you make of those comments there from president obama that donald trump is exploiting the fears of working class men who have been suffering? >> well, i think it's a strong word, exploiting is a strong word. i think that one of the things that we're really focused on is that we're really, we just had a technical glitch. i'm right back with you. i think to answer the question here, i think i'm more concerned about the characterization of

new terrorists in the process. which is why in an interview with npr that was released today president obama had a pointed message forritics who want more bombs to fall. >> who is it you're going to bomb? where is it you're going to bomb? when you talk about something like carpet bombing, what do you mean? if the suggestion is that we kill tens or hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and iraqis, that is not who we are and that would be a strategy that would have an enormous backlash against the united states. it would be terrible for our national security. and you know, unfortunately, many of these critics can get away with just suggesting that bombing more or being less discriminate in how we approach that would make a difference. >>> my campaign, i'm going to suspend my campaign. i'm not going to suspend my desire to help the country. >> why are you getting out of the race? >> well, because i've hit a wall here. you know, my campaign has come to a point where i need to think about getting out and helping somebody else. >> lindsey graham's 2016 presidential ambitions and his plans to bring a rotating cast of

here's the president now talking with npr before taking off on his two-week vacation in hawaii. >> post-paris, you had a saturation of news about the horrible attack there, and you know, isil combines viciousness with very savvy media operations, and as a consequence, if you've been watching television for the last month, all you've been seeing, all you've been hearing about is these guys with masks or black flags who are potentially coming to get you. lou: coming to get you. those outrageous statements by the president, the same president who said last week he didn't realize the depth of the san bernardino terror attacks because he didn't watch enough cable news. and while it took more time than usual, the president did manage to play the race card in his explanation of donald trump's rise in the polls. we'll take it all up with fox news juan williams here tonight. >>> also republican front-runner trump is demanding an apology from hillary clinton. after she claimed terrorists are, quote, running videos of donald trump end quote using him as a recruiting tool. trump fired back saying that hillary, quote, lies about every

new information. >> president obama again trying to reassure a jittery public on the war against terror. the president saying to npr isis cannot destroy the united states but he understands why people are worried and his administration may have fumbled their anti-isis strategy but the president is blaming the media for sparking fear. >> isis combines viciousness with savvy media operations. as a consequence, if you have been watching television for the last month, all you have been seeing, all you have been hearing about, is these guys with masks or black flags who are potentially coming to get you. >> in the he has given in the seven years in office. then next he went to the pentagon and met with the generals and had a huge meeting and with an update. then he went to the national counterterrorism center in virginia. he has been trying to soothe the fears of the american public across three different huge occasions capturing our attention. we are covering him talk about the people in the masks and black flags but he is not soothing the fears and now he is turning it on us. no, it is back on you. >> is this real? a

new terrorists in the process. which is why in an interview with npr that was released today president obama had a pointed message fore critics who want more bombs to fall. >> who is it you're going to bomb? where is it you're going to bomb? when you talk about something like carpet bombing, what do you mean? if the suggestion is that we kill tens or hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and iraqis, that is not who we are and that would be a strategy that would have an enormous backlash against the united states. it would be terrible for our national security. and you know, unfortunately, many of these critics can get away with just suggesting that bombing more or being less discriminate in how we approach that would make a difference. ok, we're here. here's dad. mom. the twins. aunt alice... you didn't tell me aunt alice was coming. of course. don't forget grandpa. can the test drive be over now? maybe just head back to the dealership? don't you want to meet my family? yep, totally. it's practically yours, but we still need your signature. the volkswagen sign then drive event. zero due at signing, zero down, z

new terrorists in the process. which is why in an interview with npr that was released today president obama had a pointed message forics who want more bombs to fall. >> but who is it you're going to bomb? where is it that you're going to bomb? when you talk about something like carpet bombing, what do you mean? if the suggestion is is that we kill tens or hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and iraqis, that is not who we are and that would be a strategy that would have an enormous backlash against the united states. it would be terrible for our national security. and you know, unfortunately, many of these critics can get away with just suggesting that bombing more or being less discriminate in how we approach that would make a difference. when heartburn hits fight back fast tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue and neutralizes stomach acid at the source tum, tum, tum, tum smoothies! only from tums full of guests on the waye and a cold with sinus pressure, you need fast relief. alka-seltzer plus severe sinus congestion and cough liquid gels rush relief to your tough symptoms. to

npr. were you surprised that donald trump said that guns don't kill do? >> yes, it's quite ahock all. that? >> always the news and/or the internet. >> we're talking to people about donald trump. some of his comments about muslims have some people comparing them with hitler. hitler's been trying to distance himself from donald trump. this morning hitler tweeted, trump can kiss my wiener snitsel. what did you think? >> i thought it was pretty funny. >> did you see that? >> i saw it on twitter. >> people have been talking about it? >> yes, it was all over my twtwter. >> people are laughing saying they're glad donald trump is disqualified by the presidency. >> by hitler? >> by hitler. >> what did you think of donald trump's statement, if it's brown, flusht down to mexico? >> i thought -- >> flush all that brown down to mexico. >> whoa, did he really just say that? >> i agree with him. it's true. >> i still thought, oh, my god, did you reallyy say that? >> where were you when you saw him say that? >> i was at home. on television. i was like, oh, my god, did he really just say that. >> do me a favor, guys,ook in ea

in an interview with npr, president obama touched on the "i dont think that this country works best on cynicism." the president was named top man in a new gallup poll of people most admired by americans. trump tied for second, with pope francis. and hillary clinton was named most- admired woman - for a record twentieth time. clinton is shrugging off trump's attacks on her husband, saying i'm brian mooar in washington. now back to you. a big endorsement from a leading south carolina republican is touching off a social media firestorm. we'll have more at 5:30, and a look at who's in now that senator lindsey graham is out. the unsettled weather pattern continues. meteorologist ben tanner joins me now with an update. monday afternoon highs will reach the upper 70s and an unsettled weather pattern there is also a good chance of showers as moist, humid air continues to flow in from the south around a ridge of high pressure anchored off the coast. your full forecast, coming up. announcer: one candidate tough enough to take on the bully... jeb bush: donald, you're not going to be able to insult your way to the presidency. that's not going to ha

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host: the president in an interview with npr as he responded to his critics. the newk times sunday review with the year in pictures and the syrian refugee crisis has dominated many of the photographs in this segment. including, of course, this one photo that drew some much attention. a young syrian boy washed ashore in mediterranean. a relief worker there to capture the moment. let's go to larry in georgia. independent line. caller: good morning america. event that has happened this year is the ascension of donald trump. i know that there are lots of lambasteo want to donald trump for not knowing the political scene or not having been part of the political scene. that has been the problem. we have suffered under liberalism for just about forever. liberalism has seeped into the american society like termites in a home. you do not know they are there until it is too late. we suffer from political correctness. you've got people being sued because they don't want to make couplefor a homosexual and they get sued and find hundreds of thousands of dollars -- fined hundreds o

npr scott simon asks about the rape allegations. >> there have been serious allegations raised about you in recent days. you're shaking your head no. i'm in the news have to ask the question. do you have any response to those charges? shaking your head no. >> the associated press also tries to get a response. >> i have to ask about your name coming up in the news recently regarding this comedian -- >> no, no, we don't answer that. >> cosby berates the reporter for even bringing up the subject. >> and i would appreciate it if it was scuttled. i think if you want to consider yourself to be serious, that it will not appear anywhere. >> it didn't play well. didn't look good for bill cosby. >> under mounting pressure, cosby's camp responds to the renewed allegations. the fact that they are being repeated does not make them true. mr. cosby does not intend to dignify these allegations with any comment. but one thing is clear, reporters who for years failed to ask cosby the hard questions are now paying attention. and this time the story is not going away. >> we believe the women! >>> when we come back. >> he drugged and raped me. >> more than two dozen w

carolina and it would not surprise me if he endorses the top new hampshire finisher not named donald trump or ted cruz. martha: let's play this npr> if you just look at the numbers then non-islamic, non-foreign motivated terrorist actions have killed at least as many americans on american soil than those promoted by jihadist. martha: what do you make of that? >> you want to know why people are terrified? that is the reason. this president constantly underestimates these threats. he is not speaking to what people think about this threat. this is an apocalyptic death cult that hasn't hit us hard yet but wants to do more damage. people want a sense of urgency from this president regarding the threat. martha: we will never get that. it has to be deliberate action of the president not to go there. he is not going on television or sitting down in an interview saying i get it, this is a threat that faces our country and the world, and we will punch back. by going out there once again this morning and saying it this way he is making it all the more fair we will never hear that. >> the simple explanation is he doesn't take it that serious

new york and it means to be beaten badly. i won't give the press any more fun with it. and by the way, also, npr, national public radio, one of the most revered emcees, political people, one of the most revered used it and he used the exact same word. even the e-d at the end. for him, it's okay. for trump, it's horrible. but what it means is to be beaten badly. i guess it has other meanings. but what it means is to be beaten badly. >> i want to bring in hugh hewitt. there he is. how was your christmas? >> it was wonderful, don partnership hope you had a merry one. >> i did. we spent the entire time talking about you and donald trump. he's hitting hillary clinton, chris christie in new hampshire tonight. we're seeing christie target marco rubio, as well. jeb is attacking christie and trump. this is all in new hampshire. is that going to knock trump out of the top spot, do you think? it is certainly to his advantage that the so-called republican establishment lane, i heard kevin madden earlier saying the so-called establishment. that has chris christie, marco rubio and job bush in it and john kasi

npr. as i'm listening to it it is sort of like blaming people for listening to the news or whatever othereople are saying regarding what happens in paris or california. i'm not sure why there is this denial of what's going on. it seems to be pretty clear the matter who you are, where you are. i just don't see an urgency in how to deal with this in the current administration. i really concerned that in the , if presidential election it is somebody who is following that same philosophy, we are not going to address this issue. i think we are taking a chance with our homeland. host: how should be addressed? caller: a couple of different models out there. i'm not an expert although i have military -- career military in my family. -- i thinkis that the first thing you have to do is recognize what it is and that it is a threat. it is only after you recognize it as a real threat and that it has capability will you be able to develop a strategy. is it a threat? maybe it is. maybe the media is blowing it up. it does on occasion bookings up. -- blow things up. unless you recognize it for what it is,

perspective, good news that there continues increasing intensity behind support for the kinds of commonsense gun safety measures that the president has long advocated. so... wbur, the npr affiliate in boston. [laughter] >> yeah. dial.s 90.9 on the [laughter] >> so... all right, josh. that, let's go to your questions. >> congress is preparing to send a short-term extension to keep the government up and running while they have more discussions on this deal. i know that you said, i think in chat, the president would sign that. >> that's right. >> but speaker ryan is saying that they may need even more time. he's not putting a hard deadline on it. short-termng if that extension -- is that a one-shot deal? thehere any chance president entertains another kick of the can down the road? as clear asd to be i could about this. the president was pretty clear about this, when he signed the last cr, back in late september, i believe that was. and what the president agreed to do was to sign the cr in september that would bring us through mid-december. that would give congress ample bipartisanotiate a budget agreement. and as i noted yesterday, congress has made a lot of that,ss on n

new york. >> all right, blame. blame berman there in dc. >> the commander-in-chief president obama downplaying isis in his year-end interview with npr. joins us from honolulu where the president and his family are vacationing. >> good day to you. you're right. the president somewhat defiant i guess you could say in that interview saying it's the lack of messaging that's getting through to the american people about successes as it relates to the on going war on terror. that's really behind the anxiety that americans are feeling. he says it's that and not the policies that are currently under used by the administration. of course the president has long been saying that this is going to be a long fight. one that will last well beyond his presidency. but we heard in that interview with npr that's a lack of messaging that's the problem. listen to what the president had to say about it. barack obama: i think there's a legitimate criticism what i've been doing and our administration has been doing in the sense that we on a regular basis described all the work we've been doing for more than a year now to defeat isil. >> we're talking about 8

news business, and i have to ask the question. do you have any response to those charges? shaking your head no. >> reporter: and nprost shared more with his rereaction with cnn. >> it is a delightful impish cosby smile at first, and then was silent. he didn't answer the question. >> reporter: when the associated press reporter asked cosby last november if he wanted to comment on what the accusers said, he got this. >> i have to ask about your name coming up in the news recently regard i regarding this comedian. >> no, no, we don't answer that. >> okay. >> i just wanted to ask can if you wanted to respond at all about whether any of that was true. >> there is no response. >> reporter: and then cosby took it one step further. >> now can i get something from y you? >> what is that? >> that none of that will be shown? >> i -- i can't promise that myself, but you didn't say anything. >> i would appreciate it if it was scuttled. >> i hear you. i will tell that to my editors, and, and -- and i think that they will understand. >> well, i think they if you want to consider yourself to be serious -- >> yes. >> that it will n

new york and mary katharine ham in washington. first go to you first. wow, the race card? on the year end summary with npr?n't think that's true, eric? of course it's true. the guy is a muslim, the guy is the other. he has never fully accepted. you look at the reality and the elections in 2008 and 2012, he loses white men, especially the white southern states overwhelmingly. you get barron, now ryan,. >> this is what he wants to talk about. it's the year end summary. >> the question is has race been a factor? he would have been a liar had he said oh no race is not a problem in america. >> his own sort of way that race may have had something to do with the success of the economy when he talks about policy. wages, income, i don't know, it just feels weird to be doing that now. >> well, i think it's a bit of scapegoat and it's an excuse that doesn't speak to the actual failures of policy. juan is right but, sure, america has not entirely buried its racial concerns. that is the case. but that's also a useless comment like he actually needs to address what's going on here and by the way you when it comes to unp

this morning in new hampshire you said isis, quote, will destroy us if we don't destroy them first. that's a very different take on the isis situation than president obama who told nprhat he feels fears about isis in the united states may be overhyped by the media and that isis does not pose an existential threat to the united states. you think that isis does pose a threat to the existence of the country? >> absolutely. i think it's rather naive to believe that they are the jayvee and that we have nothing to worry about. because we live in a different era. you know, he talked about them not being a big industrial power. we're not in the era now where you send, you know, big armies to fight, or you know air forces. we're in a place where you use a jet plane as a missile to knock down buildings, where dirty bombs can be used to extinguish large numbers of people. there are lots of different techniques that can be used, cyber attacks, attacking our electrical grid. you know, these are things that are all well within their capabilities. and particularly when they use them in tandem. there's a lot of things that could happen in this country. and we need to be planning fo

to others whether it's republicans or whether it's the people on fox news or talk radio for his failures, and we have seen that nprone else other than me, the president, asked about the fears of some americans that he's changing the country and that he changed the country in a way that's unacceptable to them, he said in part, and this was his first response, listen in. >> if what you're asking me, steve, is, are there certain circumstances where i'm being the first african-american president, that might not have confronted a previous president, absolutely. >> so he saying that people who don't like him don't like him because he's, they're racist? >> that appears what he's saying. we understand that racism is a strain in american politics and unfortunately has been for a long time. i saw it with david dinkins the first african-american of new york city. it's not an explanation, not an excuse. he shouldn't resort to that. it divides america, on top of that i believe he's totally, totally wrong. he needs to understand what americans are thinking and that's the wrong way to do it. >> you mentioned david dinkins. i met

i was working and still working at npr, and i was also at that point working for the -- what was then the mcneill lehrer newsour, and i was asked to go on the roundtable for this week, and then they asked me to come on the staff. i said, i would as long as i didn't have to leave npr. and so i worked for both ever since, and that was 1988. so a while ago. >> host: you've hosted this week. were you the first female host on a sunday morning program? >> guest: no. my dear friend, leslie stall, was the host of "face the nation." >> host: what was is like to work with sam donaldson. >> guest: one of the most delightful people. the moved home to new mexico and i miss him terribly. he is just one of the -- a unique individual and that's an overused word but not in terms of sam. one of the nicest, funniest people you'd ever -- and kindest people you would ever want to know, but also that persona, that bombastic persona is the real sam. people ask me all the time, is there a hidden george will, hidden sam donaldson? no. they are who they are. they're both delightful men. >> host: how much are you working these days. >

npr. >> host: >> guest: we are good friends and we've had each other's back for a long time but they are the people that got in that job. that happened is steve went to work for "the new york times" bureau and he was sitting at a desk and with someone he didn't know she was a woman that introduced herself as judith miller who has since become famous and he said where did you come from and she said i just come over from npr. he said what's npr and she told him and he said that sounds like a perfect place for my wife, because i had been doing a lot of radio reporting and so, she said cold nina so he did and she said gets me her resume so he got by resume over into the rest is history. >> host: we are our mothers daughters. the debate over the role of women has created enormous upheaval for society and for the family. for women women might women like me that grew up and graduated from college before the revolution, it's all gotten a little exhausting. >> guest: i was reading the other day about the new book on the road and common life on the road and i said to her aren't you just worn out and she isn't, god love her. she is ready to keep going but it does get exhausting

to the radio station on my way to the train station in delaware early morning, and i was catching npr news at 7:00al as i made my way to the train station in wilmington. on the news that morning they gave a report about international survey that was taken where they asked thousands of people in different countries here and other countries as well, but they asked them what is it about your work that you like? what is it about your work that makes you like your job or not like your job? and some of the people who were asked, they said the thing that i like about my job is i like getting paid. not that they're in it for the money but they like getting paid. other people said the thing they like about their job is the fact that they have vacations. some people said they had health care. some people said they like the folks that they work with. other people said they like the environment, a beautiful place like this in which they work. but the thing that most people said that they liked, made them like their job, really two things: one, they knew that the work they were doing was important. and