. >>> safety concerns flagged well before the operation, one contractor that worked with oceangate says was an experimental decision during construction of the vessel, and in the wake of this tragedy, cnn is going to examine deep- sea exploration and the inherent dangers that come along with these kinds of curious mind expeditions. >>> welcome to the lead time jake tapper, the world lead, a tragic ending to the search for the missing sub, the missing coast guard confirmed debris has been found on the seafloor near the wreckage of the titanic, the rear admiral says the debris field is consistent with a quote catastrophic implosion of the sub. >> this morning aro v or remote operated vehicle from the vessel horizon arctic, discovered the tail cone of the titans submersible approximately 1600 feet from the bow of the titanic on the seafloor. on behalf of the united states coast guard and the entire unified command, offering my deepest condolences to the families. >> the u.s. coast guard is still working through the exact timeline, and set up sunday, and loss contact, one hour 45 minutes in

. —— at oceangate.t e—mail exchange from 2018, so a testy exchange, several e—mails we have seen at the bbc between the two, rob mccallum, an expert in the field, and the ceo himself, the late stockton rush. and this was more of the same. we have heard this from several experts — concerns about the materials used in the titan, in that hull, the carbon fibre used, outside of the norm for the industry. we also heard concerns about the lack of certification of the titan, and even saying they should stop use altogether until there was a certification done. interestingly, this was back in 2018. the first dive to the site of the titanic wreckage was in 2021, so this was several years before the titan started making these trips. and also, more recent concerns being raised in the last few days — the director of the movie titanicjames cameron, who's also made several — more than 30 trips to the titanic wreckage himself. he's been speaking out about similar concerns. so, this is a timeline dating all the way back

it is not clear what steps oceangate undertook to adhere to those standards. its founder stockton rush on the missing sub expressed his take this way when asked by one of his previous passengers -- >> i've broken some rules to make this. i think that i've broken them with logic and good engineering behind me. the carbon fiber and titanium, there is a rule you don't do that. well, i did. >> reporter: and two employers separately expressed concerns about the thickness of the hull. one employee was fired and he sued for wrongful termination. the other resigned. the lawsuit was settled out of court and oceangate said it conducted further testing on the sub to ensure functionality and safety. spoke to one man here in st. john's that did that trip with oceangate, he took his son on the trip last year. he says that they both have great confidence in the company, they went through tons of training on rescues and emergencies and have learned a lot about the capsule itself. he says that they trust the technology and the design of that submersible. back to you. >>> in th

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and defending the ceo of oceangate.ng once again where i-95 collapsed in philadelphia just two weeks ago. but the thing about it is, this is just a temporary fix. danny freeman has more on this from philadelphia. he's joining us now. danny, are people surprised how quickly they have been able to reopen the flow of traffic? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. i don't think when anyone was here 12 days ago if you saw the original damage that anyone could have believed traffic would be flowing again in less than two weeks, but this morning, we saw the governor of pennsylvania drive through, fire trucks drive over as well and perhaps in the most philadelphia fashion, we also saw all of the philadelphia sports teams and mascots including the fanatic and gritty driving through this morning as well. and then shortly, in a matter of minutes, the public is going to get a chance to ride on this new part of i-95. but i just want to explain a little bit how we got here. 12 days ago, june 11th, a sunday morning, a tanker truck carrying 8

tested a prototype, right here in the san francisco bay. >> reporter: the company, oceangate, worked on a submersible prototype for a decade. the work included a dip in san francisco bay, in 2016. in the video provided by environmental journalist mary miller, oceangate technicians are seen demonstrated abilities of the craft, designed to carry a pilot , three guests, paying $250,000 each , and an onboard expert. >> more people have been to space that have been to see the titanic. >> reporter: that is stockton rush, founder of oceangate, in a 2018 interview. >> people enter and exit through the dome. >> reporter: the vessel is designed to carry five people to a depth of 12,000 feet, where the remains of the titanic can be seen in just-released, 3-d video. the oceangate vessel was reported overdue and out of contact last night, about 435 miles south of newfoundland , and is now down to perhaps 70 hours of onboard life-support left. one billionaire verified up or the craft had said, due to the worst weather in newfoundland, in 40 years, this mission is likely to be the first and only ma

i was not on any oceangate — continue? i was not on any oceangate expeditions i continue?o i cannot speak first—hand about what they told their suppose admission specialists, their paying passengers, though i don't want to really comment on that. as far as it should explorations continue, i think absolutely, they should. i'm not against tourist dives to titanic. titanic has a worldwide fascination. people are endlessly hungry for information about the ship and not everyone has an opportunity to go. so, providing some people with an opportunity because even on the tourist dives, information comes back, things i learned about the ship, so i'm not against tourist dives, i'm not against continued exploration and in fact, i encourage it. we want to establish titanic as an archaeological site and listen to the stories that the wreck still has to tell us about the disaster. but i think that all passenger carrying submersible should be required to carry a certification, to meet a certain standard to ensure that its met at least minimum safety requirements. you travelled to the oce

guillermo, the former co—founder of oceangate. ..y, rob mccallum replied, in starkest terms, i think you are potentially placing yourself and your clients in a dangerous dynamic. right, let's get more on this right now. our science correspondent jonathan amos is standing by. this is quite a stark exchange of e—mails? it this is quite a stark exchange of e-mails? , ,., , , , e-mails? it is polite but it is very testy. one _ e-mails? it is polite but it is very testy. one has — e-mails? it is polite but it is very testy, one has to _ e-mails? it is polite but it is very testy, one has to say, _ e-mails? it is polite but it is very testy, one has to say, lewis, - e-mails? it is polite but it is very testy, one has to say, lewis, if. e-mails? it is polite but it is very l testy, one has to say, lewis, if you redo the whole exchange. should just describe who rob mccallum is. he is one of the world's leading subversive experts. the first time humans had been to all five of the deepest points in the world's oceans, he knows precisely what h

oceangate's lawyers then threatened legal action., we have contacted them again, and they say they have no additional information. mccammon maintains that no one should have gone in the submersible. this morning, we heard from the chairman of the u.s. marine technology society manned underwater vehicles committee. in 2018, he and other engineers wrote a letter to stockton rush, warning of the dangers of using an uncertified craft. >> this was clearly preventable. we do have regulations. i think the issue here is that as an industry -- we make submersibles. we have been making submersles in los angeles for 30 years and they are some of the best summer rains the world. there is order in the industry. there are ways to be clever and go around things. for sure, it needs to be clear that a submersible like this, what they were doing for tourism, would not be allowed in u.s. waters. the coast guard would not allow it. it would not be allowed to work in british coastal waters because it would have required -- they would have required it to

we know that two former oceangate employees had raised concerns. safety concerns about the actual structure of the "titan." specifically about its hull and how thick that antititanium hull is. we spoke to one of the oceangate employees who said when the hull arrived it was only five inches thick rather than seven inches thick as they had been assured. the other former staffer during a counter lawsuit alleged that the "titan" hadn't gone through the proper nondestructive testing to make sure it was sound and could handle the pressure that it would face down at 13,000 feet where the "titanic" is. both of those employees said that the concerns were raised to oceangate management, even to the ceo, stockton rush, and were largely dismissed. we've reached out to oceangate about those claims so far. there's been no response. and we have obtained a 2018 letter, dana, that was written by the head of a submersible organization that really warned about oceangate as they called it, experimental approach to this vessel that they said could have catastrophic con

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and then there would be steps by oceangate to mitigate those concerns.is, and you make some initial choices, it's one thing builds on another. so, there's a definite reason to pick carbon fiber. but, yeah, it may not be the right material. >> b. j. virnig, appreciate your time tonight. joining me now by someone who's been with us this week, and new hamish harden in stockton rush. well -- was involved into mission, attempting to reach the titanic. i'm sorry for the loss of your friend, hamish harding in stockton rush. can you talk about how your feeling, what went through your mind when the u.s. coast guard today finally announced the catastrophic implosion? >> yeah, it was obviously devastating and heartbreaking when we finally heard the verdict. we were very optimistic in trying to stay positive. hoping for a little miracle for the submersible subject come up to the surface. it became increasingly clear, time was up. obviously, with the u.s. coast guard giving the final verdict, that was it. heartbreaking, devastating. the world has lost five great men,

one claimed oceangate hadn't performed adequate testing on the hull to check its structure.he was concerned when the carbon hull arrived and was only 5 inches thick rather than 7 inches. both said their concerns were dismissed. the company -- titanic excursions, after several equipment or weather issues caused the trips to be delayed. as the frantic search intensifies, conan says there's one component he wishes were on the vessel, a working beacon. >> it would be making a huge difference if it had a beacon so that someone could direct themselves in that direction. >> and anderson, cnn has reached out to oceangate about these various claims. so far they've declined to comment. >> thanks so much. so, those are some of the safety concerns. we're joined now by someone who had a chance to assess those risks himself firsthand af a test dive with ocean gait on the titan. he's the host of "expedition unknown." i want to talk about your experience on "titan." but i wonder what's been going through your mind the past few days having been on this thing, watching this? >> it's been surr

coast guard to be that of the oceangate vessel.ere speaking about it, our sources confirmed what you had relayed to us earlier. in fact, a positive i.d. what is that process like? take us inside what it's like to figure this out. >> well, if you've seen pictures from underwater vehicles you'll notice that it looks like there's snow dropping through the water column all the time. so any debris that's been on the sea bed for any length of time more than a few weeks is going to get at least a small coating of that snow on it. so anything that's happened in the last couple of days wouldn't have that. that, the fact that the vast majority of the hull of the "titan" is white will reflect in the cameras, in the lights of the rov. so it should be pretty apparent that it's new debris versus old debris. so, and the two pieces that i, that -- of debris that i have been informed that were found are fairly colored. >> we're confirming the debris discover was some 500 meters from the bow of the "titanic." an enormous area underwater where there

"polar prince" is on its way back with oceangate employees.hey have been out there the entire time with not only maritime horizon employees but oceangate employees as well. we expect them to back in the next 12, 20 hours. it's a long trip back. i am sure this is especially long. >> appreciate it. thank you. i want to go to someone else, the chief of travel weekly, arne wiseman, was almost scheduled to be on oceangate submersible trip. he ended up being a canceled mission back in may instead. appreciate you joining us. i read you say something that stockton rush told you and told you, i guess, proudly, that he said he got the carbon hull material from boeing on deep discount because it was past the shelf life for airplane use? could you talk about that? >> yes. one night we went on the stern of the ship and just sat and talked and he told me sort of his life story. part of that was that when he got the carbon fiber from boeing and said this was material that had originally been planned for aircraft use, for building airplanes, but that it had p

>> you know, i can't speak to oceangate. i've never seen the vehicle myself.h in spacecraft to space and a variety of sub mers ibls down to the very deepest point at the bottom of the mariana trench. what is interesting about both spacecraft and submarines is that many issues are almost identical. for example on life support you have to add oxygen, scrub out the co2, manage the total pressure, you want to keep the temperature within livable range. that sort of thing. then when you get to the pressures involved the two types of vehicles deviate dramatically. in the case of a spacecraft you're only having to hold in one atmospheric pressure compared to the vacuum of space. when you are going down, down to the mariana trench it is a thousand atmospheres of pressure. here at the titanic it is merely about 500 times the surface pressure of air. which is still obviously an enormous amount of pressure and that is why a spaceship hull is very thin, not much more than a coke can, but it takes numerous inches of steel or in this case carbon fiber to hold out the enormou

they cofounded oceangate the next year.ft oceangate before the titan vessel began testing, but he does have a minority ownership stake in the company. guillermo, thank you for joining us tonight. i want to start with your friend, stockton rush, who is among those confirmed lost today. when you met him, what was your first impression of him? what do you want people to remember about him? >> i think for me, he was probably one of the most intelligent people i'd ever met, very curious, very driven, very talented, and very committed to exploration and a passion for learning more about the oceans in a way to expand humanities understanding of the ocean. but also for humanity to be able to preserve the ocean. >> i know you just talked to him just two weeks ago. does anything from that conversation stand out as you look back on it? >> no. i know he was -- as always, as every year when oceangate does the science expeditions to the titanic, he gets very excited about it. he's very excited about the team, the operations, and the miss

what is not clear is what oceangate did. many people believed it was safe and sound but we don't know everything done to meet the standards in this very serious and technical community. >> and not just the initial testing on the design concept but also just check up testing after dives and with each season how much, how rigorous was that if at all. >> i think that's the real problem here because carbon fiber and other materials they don't know as much about them. >> there's certain things that this to be buttoned down so the pressure vessel is not mcgivered at all. >> stockton rush defending his design of the titan touting impressive partnerships over and over again. we partnered with aero-spaerosp experts at the university of the washington. cnn has learned boeing and the university of washington are denying partnering on titan. in a statement uw tells cnn the school of oceanography testing tanks were used by oceangate but no uw eh researchers were involved and personnel did not provide any verification or validation of any

among them, oceangate's founder, ceo stockton rush. he's from a prominent san francisco family and got his mba at uc berkeley. there's also british businessman shahzada dawood and his son, suleman. dawood on the board of mountain view-based seti institute. >> i can only imagine what this has been like for them, and i hope that this discovery provides some solace during this difficult time. >> today we spoke to a friend of one of the victims. mike reese is a writer and producer of "the simpsons." he went on four different trips with oceangate, including one to the titanic with his wife, denise, last year. denise didn't get to go underwater actually because she tested positive for covid right before the journey. but mike spent ten hours plunging down to the titanic wreckage and back. today he spoke with our janelle wang, calling that trip one of a kind but also acknowledged he knew that trip came with risk. >> from the moment we heard about this news on sunday, although we tried to be hopeful and upbeat, we knew it was going to end badly

this video of the wreckage taken by oceangate last year. they have been doing this for quite some time. as we heard in other reports, things have not gone smoothly. oceangate is exploring every option that they can to get the crew back safely. they posted information about their trips in the past to the twitter page saying that they do everything they can to make sure it's a great experience. when people dish out $250,000, they expect a good tour. that famous ship wreck sits down thousands of feet at the bottom of the atlantic. when we get more, we'll bring it to you. >> the search goes on. we'll continue to update you as we get any aerial shots of the area where the search is going on. right now we want to bring in veteran rescue driver butch hendrick, the founder of lifeguard systems. he's taught and developed rescue procedures for more than 30 years. butch, thanks very much for joining used too. tell us what you think today based on what you learned about this vehicle and the fact that it goes two miles under the surface of the ocean. >>

both said their concerns were dismissed by russia oceangate management.awsuits in recent years, seeking to recoup payments from those who had hoped to go on titanic excursions, after several equipment or weather issues caused the trips to be delayed. as the frantic search intensifies, kohnen says there's one component he wishes were on the vessel, a working beacon. >> it would be making a huge difference if it had a beacon, so that someone could direct themselves and that direction. >> and anderson, cnn has reached out to oceangate about these various claims. so far, they've declined to comment. anderson? >> gabe cohen, thanks so much. so, those are some safety concerns. we're joined now by someone who might have a chance to assess those risks himself firsthand, after a test dive with oceangate on the titan. josh gates, he's the host of -- on our sister channel discovery. josh, thanks for being with us. i want to talk expensive tighten, but first, i just want to know what's going through your mind over these past few days, having been on this thing, watch

here we are five years later and that oceangate sub is missing.t may be at the bottom of the ocean floor near the titanic's wreckage. it's waters as deep as mt. fuji is tall. at that depth, it's pitch black. there's no light. the pressure, of course, is bone crushing. there's no way to get out. we spoke to a software engineer who not only went on an oceangate expedition to the titanic but did so in the very sub missing beneath the surface tonight. he described what conditions are like. >> it is going to be cold down there, but it's not freezing. they will have layers down there. you know, it's not that it's ideal. the temperature at the bottom at the titanic is negative below zero, but it's saltwater so it doesn't quite freeze. but it is cold down there. >> he's actually been there on this very submersible. tom foreman has a lot more on what it's like inside the titan. the coast guard is admitting even if crews are able to locate the sub, it is unclear if the five people on board can be saved. >> even with the amount of time that's left, say 41 ho

what exactly happened to the oceangate "titan" sub as it made its way down to the "titanic," and when? >> this is an incredibly unforgiving environment down there on the sea floor. the debris is consistent with the catastrophic implosion of the vessel. >> they got into the vessel, because they were thrill-seeking adventurers and this morning, remembering the victims as the friends and family mourn the loss of the five explorers who perished on the "titan." >>> and we are keeping watch on the supreme court, and the final decisions and some of the biggest decisions of the term could come at any moment. this isis cnn "news central." >>> an aviation tycoon and explorer, a father and son, a "titanic" expert and the chief executive and founder of oceangate. these are the lives that were lost in this tragedy on the "titan" sub. the officials are announcing yesterday that they do have indicators that the sub, that they were in imploded leaving no survivors of course. of all of those on board, ph nargeolet knew it the best, and he had made the descent to explore the wreckage more than 34 times

was oceangate charging $250,000 per passenger for that particular voyage? that's the price we heard. >> right at the beginning, it was more like $110, i believe. >> all right. chris brown, thank you so much. really appreciate your time today. >>> why our next guest objected to the deep sea tourism of the "titanic." the head of the identifying will join me. then what we know about the cause and severity of injuries in a paris building. my name is shannon knight, and i own little knights daycare. carolina sports incorporated. a paradise for parents. lomita feed, current caretaker and owner. we did not know anything about the employee retention credit. that is a legitimate tax credit. so innovation refunds has really helped guide me through the process. just had to get a few of my records together, submit that, and they made it as painless as possible. i can't thank innovation refunds enough for what they did. like ours is spoiling their dogs. good, real food is simple. it looks like food, it smells like food, it's what dogs are supposed to be eating. no livin

the pilot of the sub was oceangate ceo stockton rush.is wife wendy is the great-great granddaughter of two of the passengers who perished on the titanic. in a recent interview he shared what drove him to test the boundaries of science with this project. >> i'd like to be remembered as an innovator and the future of mankind is under water, it's not on mars, we are not going to have a base on mars and the moon. we will try and waste a lot of money. we will have a base under water. when the sun extinguishes there will still be hydro thermal vents and still life forms that don't need the sun. if we trash this planet the best life boat for mankind is under water. >> the family of stockton rush has not yet released a public statement. sara? >> sobering. >>> still ahead, as investigators search for what caused the titan tragedy, we're learning more about oceangate's safety procedures and history and the long-held concerns about the submersible's design and construction. >>> plus, more recordings in the trump classified documents case. the forme

in 2019, oceangate actually put up a blog post addressing this issue.tan vessel isn't classed and that the process was slow innovation and could take years to get certified. they said they have used those standards as a benchmark for at least one of their prior vessels. but essentially, they believe classing by itself, classing a vessel is not sufficient to ensure safety because it doesn't actually assess operational factors to make sure the vessel is being operated properly. >> those concerns are from people outside the company but there have been concerns raised by employees of oceangate in the past, right-click >> that's right, we have learned two former oceangate employees separately brought up similar safety concerns. about the oceangate, about its structure and specifically the thickness of the titan when they were employed by the company years ago. one of them raised concerns in a counter lawsuit, against the company saying , oceangate hadn't performed nondestructive testing on the vessel to test its structure and make sure it was sound. he claim

when he told me he was working with oceangate, i was shocked.tely was sitting there with eight other people. i didn't get the chance because he was a few people down from me. p.h., what the hell are you doing? well, thinking about it now, you know, there's some people that -- particularly archaeologists. they get fixed on certain sites, particularly egyptologists, for instance. and they go back again and again and again. and he had a passion for titanic. it was the locust of everything for him. i think he could return, just keep going forever. and this particular vessel is the only thing available. i'd like to just jump back to the pressure hull again. it's really interesting to me that the pieces found down there were all kinds of little pieces rather than, let's say you had a leak somewhere. instead of finding slabs of the carbon fiber. that, to me, is very, very interesting. very interesting. >> i appreciate that. >> i'd like to jump in if you don't mind. >> captain mclaren, i appreciate your expertise -- i actually can't. i have to get a bre

oceangate is a very safety oriented company. the weather looks iffy. between the safety measures that were used through oceangate and this particular sub and the technology we have this is going to be something that gets resolved at some point before the oxygen runs out. i think we have another two days that the oxygen can keep the people alive. >> let's hope people. so striking to hear you say it took 73 years to find "the titanic." discovered in 1985. it has been many years since 1985. has the technology to locate something like this gotten marketedly better or has it not changed that much? >> it has gotten better. in 1985 we were able to find with side scanning sonar. sonar has gotten better. we are using c-130s, using airplanes rather than just submersibles to try to find theship. it has gotten a lot better since then. we have to remember it is a very big ocean and we are dealing with a very small craft. >> craig, we appreciate your expertise and insight. we will lean on you again as we follow this. two days worth of air lef

stockton rush was the pilot and the head of oceangate, the company behind it all. rush said he originally wanted to be an astronaut after graduating from princeton. but his eyesight was never good enough. instead, he set his sights on the sea. he founded oceangate in 2009 with the belief that our oceans not space are the key to human survival. struck warmest titanic, owning the rights. and they had dived to the wreckage more than 30 times, the first time back in 1987, just two years after the long- lost titanic was found. >> nobody is known more the titanic, passionate about it, the great thing is, humble and kind, he is not arrogant like some folks in the business, and you know, is a true gentleman explorer. >> a spokesperson for the family tells cnn quote, when i talked to paul henry, i can still see his childlike eyes shining because this legendary liner has also become his story. hamish harding was also on board and said to be very excited about the clinician, he had traveled around the world already, as high as space and as deep as the mariana trench, much dee

what is the future for a company like oceangate?>> well, i think not just for oceangate but the entire ocean exploration commuted the, what we always do when things like this happen, we wait for the team to collect data and to make determinations about what they believe occurred. and then we derive lessons from it and we build that into future exploration programs. expiration in general will continue going forward. it's the best way of honoring the crew and preserving their legacy. >> guillermo sohnlein, thank you for joining us tonight. we are so sorry for your loss. >> thank you. >> just ahead, what titanic director and deep sea explorer james cameron has to say about the parallels of back disaster and this one, specifically the red flags ignored back in 1912, and he believes this time as well. to imagine your future differently. thank you for coming together. with capella university's game-changing flexpath format, take courses on your own terms and apply the skills you learn right away. bridgett is here. she has no clue that i'm

. >> reporter: oceangate did not ask what gallo had heard.y look at the testing on f the materials used to make the hole. a cnn reviews while oceangate publicly touted a commitment to safety measures it rejected industry standards that would have posed greater scrutiny on its operations and vessels. >> special crew members safely diving to the ti"titanic" site. >> reporter: they touted an unforgettable and safe voyage. it also featured paul h. nargeolet, one of the passengers on board. >> it's very well done. it's simple. nargeolet has a lot of equipment. on this one you don't have it because you work with a screen and a keyboard and it's very easy to do that. >> reporter: cnn also learned two former oceangate employees separately voiced safety concerns about the design of the "titan." oceangate has not responded to cnn about those claims, and in 2019, lloyd's register, a marine certificate fe indication company, de-klained a request from oceangate to certify the "titan." the company has not said why. oceangate's co-founder left in 2013, caut

some said that oceangate was not prepared to put the titan — oceangate was not prepared to put the titantification that the rest of the industry adheres to. voices like james _ the industry adheres to. voices like james cameron, the director of titanic, — james cameron, the director of titanic, are _ james cameron, the director of titanic, are saying there were warnings _ titanic, are saying there were warnings that were not heeded, in the same — warnings that were not heeded, in the same sentiment as the titanic itself, _ the same sentiment as the titanic itself, people were raising concerns which _ itself, people were raising concerns which were — itself, people were raising concerns which were not listened to. there is a whole _ which were not listened to. there is a whole question about whether the industry— a whole question about whether the industry can continue. the titanic historicai— industry can continue. the titanic historical society says maj voyages to the _ historical society says maj voyages to the wreckage should end. not many people _ to the wreckage should end. not many

the chief executive of oceangate expeditions spoke to the bbc�*s us partner, cbs news. typical clientele for these missions? we have clients that are titanic enthusiasts, which we refer to as titaniacs. we've have people who have mortgaged their home to come and do the trip, and we have people who don't think twice about a trip of this cost. we had one gentleman who had won the lottery. the submersible left an impression on the cbsjournalist, which he highlighted in his report. ..and yet i couldn't help noticing how many pieces of this sub seemed improvised. i like to tell people this is not your grandfather's submarine. it's got one button... and that's it. stockton rush, the company's ceo, is one of the five men on board the titan, which lost contact with the surface vessel an hour and 45 minutes after it began a dive to see the wreck on sunday the 18th ofjune 2023. mr rush spoke to bbc news on the travel show last year. yeah, so we run the sub with this game controller. it's made by logitech, but it's basically a sony playstation—style controller. if you want to go f

and oceangate ceo, and captain of the vessel, stockton rush.a statement, oceangate thanked the vast, international search oration that mobilized over the last few days, saying -- the entire oceangate family is deeply grateful for the countless men and women from multiple organizations who worked so very hard on this mission. coast guard officials said that the nature of the implosion, and the depth at which the wreckage sits, eropation -- andov recery of th deceased -- very difficult. >> this is an incredibly unforgiving environment down there, on the sea floor, and the debris is consistent with a catastrophic implosion of the vessel. william: as those recovery operations continue, and the families grieve their losses, there are sure to be further questions about oceangate, its safety record, and the overall adventure tourism industry. in fact, as this saga unfolded over the last few days, past criticisms of oceangate had re-emerged. will kohnen is chairman of the marine technology society loss -- society's manned underwater vehicles committee.

but the co—founder of oceangate denies it cut corners.ng certification with safety and is ignoring the 14 years of development of the titan sub. any expert who weighs in on this, including mr cameron, will also admit that they were not there for the design of the sub, for the engineering of the sub, for the building of the sub, and certainly not for the rigorous test programme that the sub went through. investigations will now begin into what caused the mission to the titanic to fail so catastrophically. simon jones, bbc news. oui’ our correspondent from boston give us this update our correspondent from boston give us this update that our correspondent from boston give us this update that the our correspondent from boston give us this update that the sound our correspondent from boston give us this update that the sound on sunday was consistent with an implosion. it sounds like they detected something around the time that the titan was last heard from as it began its dive down to the wreckage on sunday. we understand that the us navy pass

an investor in oceangate _ went through. an investor in oceangate who _ went through.or in oceangate who made the i went through. an investor in i oceangate who made the same went through. an investor in - oceangate who made the same trip told the bbc that stockton rush did anything wrong was disingenuous. he anything wrong was disingenuous. h9: was doing something far beyond what anybody else had. the sub that he built was taking down there was a magnitude more advanced and you look at the craft that james cameron took down. there is a tiny little sub that one person laying flat and could operate in introducing new ideas and new pieces that are not conventional and some people do not like that. ~ :, :, :, , like that. with more on the latest in boston. _ like that. with more on the latest in boston. l'm — like that. with more on the latest in boston, i'mjoined _ like that. with more on the latest in boston, i'mjoined by - like that. with more on the latest in boston, i'mjoined by my- in boston, i'm joined by my correspondent and tell us the latest from where you are a

stockton rush, the ceo of oceangate expeditions, he is the one piloting the submersible. also, you had a british pakistani businessman, shahzada dawood, and his 19-year-old son suleman on board. paul-henri nargeolet, a french national. this is someone who had plenty of experience heading down to the "titanic." he'd done it several times in the past. also on board, hamish harding, a british billionaire. he's a passenger on board. and an adventurer. he had been on the blue origin spacecraft in 2022 just before this particular expedition he had texted a friend of his and said how excited he was to go on this particular expedition, said he was very excited about it. weather permitting, his friend had said he is the type of person that could always remain calm in a situation like this. he's going to have to rely on that now. kaitlan? >> absolutely. thinking of all of their families tonight. jason carroll, thank you. this missing vessel has had a troubled history according to reporting tonight in the "new york times." the paper obtained a 2018 letter from more than three dozen

or exceeding safety standards, and they argued that oceangate was not following the safety rule, and saying that your representation is at minimum misleading to the public, and breaches an industry-wide code of conduct that we all endeavor to uphold. and this morning, anderson cooper did speak to the co-founder of oceangate who came to stockton rush's defense and said that he believed rush to be a strong risk manager, and the late ceo and manager stockton rush. this is what he had to say. >> i have absolutely full confidence of stockton in his ability to design the sub and to engineer it, and take it through a rigorous test program. i don't have qualms with it, but i have qualms with the fact that so many of us in a rush to get answers to the questions are starting to speculate without waiting for all of the data. >> i do want to note that the former co-founder still maintains minority ownership of oceangate. bigger picture from some of the former employees that i spoke with, there were concerns about the speed in which they were developing the submersible, and the materials, and the

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oceangate is now under the microscope. we know experts have been raising red flags for years about this vessel. warning it could end in to -- catastrophe. this morning stockton rush and his ill-fated titan submersible facing intense scrutiny. rush who perished in the tightend had a reputation as a visionary, but also a self proclaimed world breaker. >> i think it was macarthur who says you are the member for the rules you break. i have broken some rules to make this. i think that i've broken with logic and good engineering behind me. >> the cofounders that he had complete eighth in rush and would've gone on the expedition himself had he had the chance. >> there is always a risk for catastrophic implosion. it is something we know about, it is something that we plan for, that we plan against. it is a known risk. >> a subcontractor for oceangate says the experimental design pass testing for the pressures that will be found at titanic depths. >> the question is if you do it repeatedly what happens? these are the source of ques

in a statement, oceangate said it is breathing deeply over this loss. while the coast guard said it will continue to investigate the event, it is now start to demobilize some of the search effort. >> still a lot of unanswered questions this morning. stay with cbs news bay area and kpix.com for continuing coverage of that effort. >>> rallying for a victim of anti-asian hate. 84-year-old visha ritona wakti was killed while walking home in 2021. that man charged in the attack still has not gone to trial. urging the justice to push for a court date. >>> a smoky grass fire caused a major damage at a nearby car dealership. for vehicles at the dealership were damaged by the wind whipped flames. it burned about two acres near east capitol expressway and put up a lot of smoke. but fire crews quickly knocked it down. >> thankfully, this area is encompassed by streets. but we did have a major exposure to the east which was the auto dealership. it actually did get into damaging four vehicles, two of them very significantly. >>> 100% affordable housing devil in san

oceangate's ceo, stockton r, and titanic expert paul-henri nargeolet. james cameron, director of the movie, "titanic" was friends with nargeolet. cameron joined the chorus of those questioning oceangate's safety measures. >> clearly corners were cut here. and people paid the price. >> reporter: the incident is increasing scrutiny on the world of deep sea exploration in general and oceangate in particular. but oceangate's co-founder is defending the company's ceo. >> he was very keenly aware of the risks of operating in deep ocean environment. and he was very committed to safety. >> reporter: a u.s. coast guard official said friday that the investigation into what happened will continue in the area where the debris was found. >> reporter: banging sounds detected earlier this week were actually from other ships in the area. but the naval official told cbs news they detected a noise consistent with an implosion. shortly after the titan first lost contact on sunday. >>> san francisco's district attorney will not charge the man arrested in connection to a gu

and in this case, oceangate expeditions knows the site. they know where their submersible was operating. and so they are setting priorities for the diving for the rov that's on site. >> we know the identity four of the five passengers onboard. can you confirm the identity of the fifth? >> i am not confirming the identity of any of the personnel onboard at this point. you know, again, our thoughts are with the family members and the crew members involved here. and so we want to respect their privacy as we continue on with the search. we are focused on the search efforts and trying to locate the submersible. >> if you are able, or anyone on these teams is able to locate the submersible, what is the plan to bring it to the surface? >> all of our efforts right now are focused on the search and locating of the submersible. within the unified command we have technical experts that are working to understand what types of casualties or what types of issues might have caused the submersible to lose contact and deviate from the dive plan. so we are

the oceangate submersible was cylinder and it's not a sphere.ailure. >> all right. so which obviously is what happened ultimately. you know you knew people on board. hammish harding on the titan sub. you made a record breaking trip together to the deepest part of the ocean. the challenger deep. that's three times deeper than where the titanic wreckage is. so you and hammish went down there. he's been down to the titanic 35 or more times. he was very experienced. >> there was also my technical advisor for evaluating the safety of my submersible and my safety officer. >> so you have great respect for him and trust him. >> absolutely. >> so are you surprised they decided to do this? they must have had the same knowledge and basics you're sharing here on steroids. >> yes but they also have a burning desire to explore. i think he was incredibly passionate about the titanic. he had been there so many times and wanted to share that experience and i also feel that by being part of oceangate he could help them enhance their safety by being there. and ham

five people on a visit to the titanic aboard a vessel built with uncertified technology tonight, oceangate, the company behind that deadly submersible dive, says it is closing indefinitely after the apparent implosion that killed, among others, oceangate's founder. meanwhile, we are now getting the first information on how the international investigation might take shape, as questions continue to focus on the design of the mini-sub and whether it should have been diving to such depths tom costello has late new information on the search for answers >> repororter: tonight, canada's transportation safety board has launched an investigation into titan's apparent implosion on sunday. the u.s. coast guard and ntsb expected to join soon. outside experts are focused on the mini-sub's uncertified, cheaper carbon fiber shell, never before used in deep sea submersibles. "titanic" movie director and ocean explorer, james cameron, says, that decision may have proved fatal >> you know, sometimes people get go fever, but you shouldn't be using an experimental vehicle for paying passengers that aren't the

_ obviously, because that is where the oceangate titan sub went down on sunday— oceangate titan subo help with that search effort. to try and find out where the oceangate titan sub _ try and find out where the oceangate titan sub might be stuck if it is not on — titan sub might be stuck if it is not on the _ titan sub might be stuck if it is not on the surface of where is it on the ocean— not on the surface of where is it on the ocean floor? where could it be? where _ the ocean floor? where could it be? where could it have drifted down to if it got _ where could it have drifted down to if it got into trouble, it's nothing and to— if it got into trouble, it's nothing and to it? — if it got into trouble, it's nothing and to it? what is quite interesting is that— and to it? what is quite interesting is that this — and to it? what is quite interesting is that this morning, when i looked at the _ is that this morning, when i looked at the maps, the ships were quite scattered. — at the maps, the ships were quite scattered, ok? and then at around about— scattered, ok? and then at around ab

the tin and questions that oceangate are facing over that. put this to mr. lead and he said they were proud to work with oceangate. he did not give away too many details. the main thing we did get from him is the families are being well supported. the crews are being well supported and they, like all the rescues, consider this still a search-and-rescue operation. nancy: that is a crucial point. thank you very much for the update. we can now talk to butch hendrick, the president and founder of lifeguard systems. he has been training water rescue and dive teams on how to find submerged bodies and evidence for decades. thank you for sharing your expertise. many of us, who are not familiar with the ins and outs of this operation, will be wondering, why is it so difficult to find this submersible? maybe you could lay out a few points. butch: first of all, they began with a surface search as soon as they possibly could get there. that obviously came up with nothing to be foun those pilots and crews are very good at searching for small items at the

oceangate's lawyers then contacted rob maccullum and threatened legal action.we've contacted them again and they say they have no additional information. rob mccallum maintains that no one should have gone in this submersible. our science correspondent jonathan amos has been tracking this story since the sub was first reported missing. this is a stark exchange your? it's a this is a stark exchange your? it�*s a fascinating exchange, actually. it is polite —ish, but it's also very testy indeed. we should perhaps explain who rob mccullum is, he's got a storied career in deep submersibles. he led the five deeps expedition — so this was the american adventure of the first person ever to reach the deepest points and all the world's oceans. so he certainly knows what he's talking about. and his criticism of stockton rush here, the ceo of oceangate, centres around the approach of stockton rush�*s company, the materials they are using in the titan sub, but also around this lack of a certification process, the idea that you bring a third party in and they run the rule o