so now we hear the to followers of osama bin laden. so the reason i tell you this story is greasy is given say a message. so does a really matter? so that ideology implanted into the heads from osama bin laden so there is a message so if you want to drown the narrative with the war syria or iraq or yemen. that is like trying to put down a kitchen fire. and that imagery to where people can and go. with those allies and enemies that utilize civil wars to score points and they are betting their ideology and message in the middle. with a geopolitical complex. so where are we today? that means remaining and expanding for pro so at the same time to build that network to benefit greatly. so al qaeda is happy with isis sole figure on them until we are ready. there is no caliphate. so what happens to the members of isis?. >> go back to the mother organization they will lot if it is the original leader he is so boring i want to blow myself up just to stop listening to him. [laughter] he never did anything that was successful he has failed every

zarqawi hoped to meet osama bin laden. >> when he does go to kandahar to try to meet with bin laden, he's rejected. at his point, zarqawi is so low on the totem pole, and it's just something that was just beneath him. >> neither osama bin laden nor his deputy ayman al-zawahiri were terribly impressed with him. he seemed and acted like a thug. he was not very sophisticated. in fact, they considered him a rather poor recruit to al-qaeda. >> narrator: zarqawi would leave kandahar determined to continue jihad, and to prove bin laden wrong. in 2002, he saw his chance. as president bush signaled saddam hussein had to go, zarqawi moved to a terrorist camp in northern iraq. it set off alarm bells at the cia. cia operations officer sam faddis, who ran a kill/capture team, was assigned the case. >> headquarters is extremely, extremely interested. i mean, the number one time-sensitive priority, as of june '02, when i left headquarters, was go collect on this islamic extremist enclave along the iran/iraq border. >> narrator: it didn't take long for faddis to find zarqawi and learn what was going

i wrote a memo about a guy i believe is going to be dangerous and his name was osama bin laden. at the time, my immediate supervisors didn't know much about bin laden but it made it all the way to the new york fbi office to john o'neill and john knew he had an ongoing case, very closely held in the u.s. government between the fbi and cia in monitoring the activities of this guy who has been trying to create some problems. i was focusing on iraq at the time and we considered iraq as the state sponsor of terrorism so working this here yt united states and joined by the tax force. also, i worked al-qaeda and bin laden. i found myself in the middle of a lot of big investigations and at one point, you know, some of my commanders if you want to call them in al-qaeda say you are in charge of this investigati investigation. a lot of these things ended up in 9/11 and east africa bombings and i was involved in so many operations around the world that disrupted terrorist plots. we were successful in stopping al-qaeda and networks from conducting terrorists plots in manchester, actually, in

pakistan hid osama bin laden from the world. the doctor deserves a medal for aiding the elimination of osama bin laden, not life in prison. pakistan should free him and it's time to declare pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism. and that's just the way it is. i'll yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair lays before the house the following personal requests. the clerk: leave of absence requested for mr. lew cavs okafor today -- lucas of okafor today, n.s.f. napolitano from june 26 through the -- mrs. napolitano from june 26 through 29. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the requests are granted. under the speaker's announced policy of january 3, 2017, the gentlewoman from the virgin islands is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader. ms. plaskett: mr. speaker, at this time i rise to take this hour, this special order hour, on behalf of the congressional black caucus. it's with great honor that i rise as co-anchor for the next 60 minutes. w

about six years ago we were celebrating the takedown of osama bin laden at his compound in pakistan. and later in 2011, a successful drone strike took out an american cleric who was the first american targeted for death by the cia and in many respects the father of this digital jihad that we are living today. i am reminded that it is one thing to kill a man, another to kill his ideas. the topic of our panel today is whether the intelligence community has the tools it needs to blunt this terrorist threat. i'd like to introduce members of our panel. i'd like to begin with jane harmon who is on my far left. jane harmon is a very familiar face here on capitol hill. she resigned from congress in february of 2011 to join the woodrow wilson center as its first female director, president and ceo. jane served on all major security committees and has made numerous congressional fact finding missions to hot spots including north korea, afghanistan and guantanamo bay. she has been recognized as an expert on security and public policy issues. she has received the medal for distinguished service,

it reminded me about six years ago that we are celebrating the takedown of osama bin laden and whichas a extraordinary accomplishment. leader in 2011 a successful down the firstok american targeted by death by the cia. of the digital jihad that we are living in today. i am reminded that it is one thing to kill a man and another to kill his ideas. environmentin a which is extremely dynamic and extremely diverse. is topic of our panel today whether the intelligence community has the tools it needs to want this threat. i would like to introduce members of the panel. jane,d like to begin with she is a very familiar face here on capitol hill. from congress first female director and ceo representing the aerospace center of california. she served on all major committees and served on numerous fact-finding missions. northing missions over korea, cuba and guantanamo bay. she has become a expert on national security issues. she received the defense medal for distinguished service. as well as the cia directors awarded as well as the distinguished public service medal. thank you for joining us.

does not take away from the fact that pakistan is somewhat scary a place with terror attacks and osama binll. doesn't it put off investors? you are right, we should not underestimate how much of a major blow to confidence many of those terror related to tax and political problems we have seen in pakistan have been, notjust for foreign investors but domestic investors. this data surprised me when i researched the story that i put in my blog on the website today. look at these figures coming out of pakistan for more than a decade. there is that dip in economic growth, in mid—2000 gt many of the financial problems. then you have that trajectory upwards. 5% growth rate, respectable in this part of the world. a big domestic consumption story reflected in the performance of the karachi stock exchange over 20 years. look at this chart. all of those terror related incidents we talked about, political issues like the assassination of the former prime minister, every time these things happen, there is a dip, an impact on the stock market but pakistani shares tend to do very well over a long—term per

i was reminded it was about six years ago that we were celebrating the takedown of osama bin laden at his compound in pakistan, which was in so many respects an extraordinary accomplishment. later in 2011, a successful drone strike took out an american cleric, anwar al awlaki, who was the first american targeted for death by the c.i.a. and was the first of the digital jihad. and i'm reminded it's one thing to kill a man and another thing to kill his ideas. here we are today in a threat environment which is extremely dynamic and extremely diverse. and the topic of our panel today is whether the i.c. has the tools it needs to blunt this terrorist threat. and i would like to introduce members of our panel. i would like to begin with jane harmon, on my far left. jay harmon is a very familiar face here on capitol hill. she resigned from congress in february of 2011 to join the woodrow wilson center as its first female director, president and ceo. representing the aerospace center of california during nine terms in congress. jane served on all major security committees and has made numerous

afriti who helped the united states track down osama bin laden and he is still in jail. pakistan claims that they are a help to the u.s. in tracking down terrorism in the world, but they're not. the evidence shows the difference. whose side is pakistan really on? after the 2011 raid to kill osama bin laden, pakistan, as i said embodied the chinese to inspect the wreckage on the stealth helicopter that the u.s. forces left behind. if they are allies of the u.s., they don't turn over technology to china. in 2011, pakistan i.s.i. isonned the c.i.a. chief following the bin laden raid. 2011, shelling killed 42 afghan civilians. pakistan is notorious for its laws which are used to persecute numerous minorities, including christians. a pakistan christian mother of ive was sentenced to death for blasphemming. and to the federally minimum sterd tribal areas but turned a blind eye to the network that operates in the area. in september of 2016, pakistani terrorists attacked an indian military base in kashmir killing 17 indian soldiers. the terrorists were from a pakistani-backed gr

lone wolf in the united states and then osama bin laden son. we have a common understanding with all the nations a are affected by extremism is a critical part to keep those individuals from being able to plan and conduct and external operations, which is job number one for us in the counterterrorism fight is to prevent attacks on the united states or allies and partners. with regard to lone wolf attacks, we are in support of local and federal law enforcement officials. if you talk about lone wolf u.s. citizens inspire by propaganda it's battlefield success that undermind the credibility narrative. dealing with individual u.s. citizens who maybe inspired. >> we're running short on time. i'm going to one more substance question. then i'm going to give you our traditional mug. what can be done to stem the flow of refugees in the mediterranean sea and human suffering? should refugee centers be built in north africa to provide south haven and what roles should groups like the vatican play? >> let me answer that question in my way. i would argue, lo

however, a good parallel is the killing of osama bin laden.e were told the head of the snake was cut off. when you cut off the head of the snake, the rest of the snake dies. >> unless the snake is -- >> which exactly what the snake was. >> right. >> what we saw in the years since then is in fact, the al qaeda ideology is measuore aliv than ever. consider the fact it spawned isis. more foreign fighters, more young men carrying out attacks based on the pirinciples osama bin laden sat in motion. we have to be cautious. >> isis is a less temperate version of al qaeda, to some degree. they were almost kicked out and became more powerful. the interesting thing about abu bakr al baghdadi, it's not his real name, he declared himself the caliphate of islam, need to have territory in order to have a state. >> yes. >> that state is now almost gone, or at least moving toward being gone. >> i wouldn't say it's almost gone. who what is almost gone is the city of mosul where i've been three times in the last six months, spending weeks there. the forces have

wound down operations in afghanistan, osama bin laden killed and thrown in the ocean and my cat got sickthing hasn't changed since 9/11. the aumf powers. no expiration date. like letting the president bomb places without having to declare war. tinder for warfare, no commitment, baby! >> that was like # hundred years ago. who are we aumfing today. >> who are we bombing today? nowadays the u.s. is authorizing use of military force -- excuse me -- bombing the (bleep) out of seven countries, iraq, pakistan, afghanistan, somalia, yemen -- what's yemen? a hybrid bride between a yem and lemon? crazy. we did 50 airstrikes there in march alone. you didn't know that but now you know that. the problem is congress gave the president broad powers because they thought he would never abuse them, but now the aumf son its third commander-in-chief who happens to believe that -- >> the world is a mess. >> -- and -- >> i alone can fix it. >> plus he gets a tiny chug each time he says the magic words radical islamic terrorism. >> so now there is no telling who we may end up bombing the (bleep) out of. ♪ agri

>> you sound like with respect, osama bin laden, you don't know what you're talking about.was an historical figure, that's a verifiable fact. >> okay. first offer, jesus was definitely not white. he got the death penalty because one guy pointed at him. if he were white, all he'd have to say, is uh, do you know who my father is? ( laughter ) ( applause ) i mean, megyn was the tonya harding of cable news for 12 years. breaking journalism's kneecaps over and over. and we were just the poor nancy kerrigan's being, like, why?! why?! and now you expect us to forgive you just because you made the olympics? i don't think so, tonya. >> trevor: michelle, no, it's funny, but i think you're being a little hard on megyn kelly. >> really? five months ago, she was part of the problem. actually, she was the keep of the problem. now she acts all high and mighty saying she doesn't watch tv news and only consumes news by print. this is like finding out ronald mcdonald only eats broccoli raw. ( laughter ) and it would be one thing if megyn were owning her past but instead she's, like, who, me

reporter: turns out some of the low-level army battlefield reports that manning leaked were found in osama bin laden's compound after his death. you may have been motivated to get the information into the public sphere, but you might have also given it to our enemies. >> right, but i have a responsibility to the public. it's not black and white. it's complicated. >> reporter: but the law was clear. back in the states, the military's response, severe. 22 charges, many under the espionage act. she was facing up to 136 years in prison. now in a military brig at quantico, nine months of solitary confinement before her court-martial even began. the military says for her own protection. what were those days like for you? >> it's a mind game. you're sitting in a room by yourself. >> the u.n. investigator called it cruel and inhuman. >> right. >> reporter: manning ultimately pled guilty to some charges and after a two-month-long court-martial -- >> the verdict, the army private convicted of leaking america's secrets but spared by the judge of the most serious charge, aiding america's enemies. >> repor

even if we called osama bin laden, not as if al qaeda went away. trying to take his place. we see the same with similar incidents with top lieutenants over at boko haram, who were killed or wiped out in a raid, all of sudden they emerge somewhere else like coke roaches. people get reassured when they hear this sort of stuff. how do you advise them to stay vigilant? >> well look, we haven't, again, this is the difference between individual personalities and then the idea. it is relatively easy to hunt down and kill an individual, bomb a tank, you know, take a city. it is very difficult to bomb an idea and just like it took 50, 60, 70 years to undermine the legitimacy of the idea of communism, it is going to take the same thing with islamic extremism. so we have to have in the short term we have to go after these guys. we have to disrupt them. it does affect their ability to recute. it custodies rapt their ability to plot and plan but we have to have the long-term strategy in place as well. why can't -- there were terrorist groups in the '80s and '90

but i was just asking you from your merchandiperch, the level secretiveness of osama bin laden raid level protocol. can you speak to that and how rare that is. >> it's rare on the level of secrecy was fine. it could have been more secret. >> more secret. >> the point is that they should have retaliated, i think. they should have borrowed a page from ronald reagan's book back in the early '80s when the soviets were stealing some very technology and what reagan and his cia director, casey did, was decide to tinker with the technology and when the soviets deployed it, it blew up pretty much all of their natural gas pipelines so what we should have done as far as i'm concerned is not say a word about what we were doing. teddy roosevelt, speak softly, carry a big stick. we should have, however, used our capabilities very decisively, far more powerfully that what putin tried to do, and have seriously disrupted their effort, because this is not fair to the american voter. i mean, i was not a supporter of hillary clinton, but she deserves to have every real vote in her favor counted. >> well, on

station for al qaeda even though he did not ever formally join the group and never pledged fealty to osama bin laden he was the group's largest he ran the house of martyr safe house and push our he opened and ran the. al qaeda training camp in southern afghanistan if you were an al qaeda fighter and you wanted to go home you needed a passport maybe a ticket it was the guy so he was certain involved but he was not the monster that the white house wanted to merican to believe the crime never matched the polish never have a graphic we can all agree on that well let me ask this you know so who is this guy who who is a bad why why why do you guys think that the cia the administration and the powers that be at the time just became so obsessed with him what was the value. i was a bit is a palestinian that was raised from saudi arabia he has a child here he even as a as a young teenager he started questioning the status quo he started questioning you know the how he was treated as a palestinian living in saudi arabia he started questioning how the palestinians were treated by the israelis he was alway

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and we glimpse that solidarity when osama bin laden was finally confronted. and just recently, a day after the terror attacks that rocked patrona few weeks ago, a in a restaurant that had been invaded, he calmly returned to pay his bill. and explaining his generosity, he told a reporter, quote, these people shouldn't win. the night before, several bartenders had risked their lives to defend patriot rons in that particular -- patrons in that particular restaurant as they tried to hack away. more lives would have been lost were it not for that bravery. and few weeks before that, at a concert attended by mostly young girls, a homeless man, steven jones who slept most nights near the stadium, helped several victims of that and pulling nails from the faces of young children. this resolve and courage in the face of barbaric violence hashingens back to the flight of 93 who sacrificed their lives on 9/11 who took down a plane probably headed for the white house. and while we appropriately recognize those who act with courage, the constant repetition of these scenes a

>> i don't know. al-qaeda -- when osama bin laden was heading it it was a up to bottom organization. that is why it was important to grab high member levels of al- qaeda. with isis it is much harder because the isis leadership is via social media, insight these rogue individuals in europe and in the united states. they don't tell them what target to hit or when to hit. it is all self-motivated. >> reporter: he was hired at the cia in 1976. a kept theme throughout his creek -- consistent theme throughout his career, north korea. 4th testane month. >> reporter: should we be more worried than we are? >> they are making progress. north korea is a hard target for the intelligence community. it is hard to try to recruit agents inside north korea. far more than iran. >> i am a smart person. i don't have to be told the same thing every single day for the next 8 years. >> reporter: president donald trump made it clear he doesn't trust the cia. >> do you remember when he linked the intelligence community, cia to the nazis? that was hugely, hugely damaging to the people -- the morale -- career

the man who killed osama bin laden former navy seal rob o'neil looked in the eyes of osama bin laden shot him. massive blaze in high-rise. six pay they it wills in london and death toll is expected to rise. benjamin with the latest. >> it's already over, 11 hours since blaze started and this is in the heart of city. there are 120 apartments in this building, over 500 residents, hundreds of them managed to escape, it's yet unclear how many remain trap inside. how many perished. massive operation overnight. over 200 firemen and the first were here in six minute's time but the fire commissioner saying he has never seen anything like this in 29 years. we know children and elderly are among the missing, six confirmed dead but the number expected to rise and still the smoke pouring to the building as they try to assess the toll. it spread very quickly through 24 floors and we have been hearing chilling stories from inside. take a listen. >> we could hear people screaming, help me, help me and flashing phone lights to let people know that they were there . >> one amazing story of a mother w

. >> this is the guy who led the mission to kill osama bin laden. >> and to save some extra time for the admiral, we're going to look at this morning's headlines a few minutes early. "the new york times" says golden state could take the nba tight and make history. they could be the champion if they beat the cavaliers in cleveland. h would also mack them the first major pro team to go undefeated in the playoffs. the warriors have 15 straight postseason wins this spring. >>> ro"rolling stone" reveals taylor swift is making her music available. she had pulled her songs in late 2014. it's unclear if her return to streaming is permanent. it happens to coincide with the release of katy perry's new release. coincidence? >> they say there's bad blood between the two of them. >> there is bad blood. like them both. the skeptics say it's not a coinkydink. whatever, they will both do well. don't know. they will both do well. >>> fleetwood mac is one we expect to learn more about one of the suspects involved in the ghost ship w the attorneys for "d >>> good morn

two others, dennis mcdennis and susan rice, is that the equivalent of 2001 presidential brief of osama bin as a red flag. >> in this case, there were some signals from clear one that is russia was looking around in the election. this piece of sbintelligence though was twofold, it confirmed the operation was run by vladimir putin himself and he had a preferred candidate and he had instructed russia intelligence services to work and benefit donald trump and help hillary clinton. that intelligence came at the beginning of august and much earlier than we had known and long many months before the obama administration gave any glimpse of that to the public. so with this whole debate on what to do, all of it was, it seems like caller by the issue of perception. >> big time. >> so there were two main things, one was the white house before the election was reluctant to take action in part because they worried of escalation of russia leading to chaos on election day, worried that russia may mound some serious cyber assaults on november 8th that would disable voting machines. there was this sort of p

attacks in the mainstream for these terror groups, something al-quaida never accomplished under osama bin laden, shep. >> shepard: what are you learning about the attack in london? >> let's talk about the location. this is in finsbury. the site of previous vehicle attacks on the london bridge. the westminster bridge in march the brush security forces have a ring of steel around the city. the attack center is concerning for that reason alone as well as the religious component. >> this was quite clearly an attack on muslims who look like they were probably muslim and they were coming from a prayer meeting. we treat this as a terrorist attack, and we in the met are as shocked as anybody in this local community or across the country at what has happened. >> a thousand worshippers attend the mosque in finsbury every friday. the finsbury park was notorious with a spiritual leader and egyptian hate teacher that was linked to multiple plots, including december 2001 plot to bring down a jet by the so-called shoe bomber, richard reed. the explosives were packed in his sneaker and failed to go off b

al qaeda, too, has managed to continue even with the death of osama bin laden. so, you can be sure that isis will reincarnate in some form, if, indeed, this man has been killed, that his brutality has been sort of perpetuated through the lower ranks. but exactly as to the sort of succession, leadership succession, that is unclear. christine? >> many knew, or know, until this is confirmed, al baghdadi as the invisible sheikh, again, pointing to the point that he has been invisible. very -- in stark contrast to al zarqawi, who was killed in 2006 by a u.s. bombing. if there's success from al baghdadi, it was in recruiting thousands of young jihadis. any answer to why he was so successful recruiting to the world's most despicable terror organization? >> reporter: i think he was benefited by the age in which he lived, the era of social media, an incredibly powerful media machine that he generated within isis, and that has been the tool that has made isis stand apart from other terrorist groups in modern times, in comparison to al qaeda. it has managed to recruit thro

secretive unit that killed osama bin laden. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. boots on the ground or not, their lives are on the line. thanks so much to all of you for joining us, "a.c. 360" with anderson cooper begins right now. >>> good evening, thank you for joining us. we begin with what could be the rumblings of another major event. a close friend of the president came out of a meeting at the white house today and went on pbs news hour and said this about special counsel robert mueller. >> i think he's considering perhaps terminating the special counsel. i think he's weighing that option, i think its pretty clear by what one of his lawyers said on television reepcently. even though i don't think there's a justification and even though -- >> you don't think there's a justification for? >> for special counsel in this case, but robert mueller, he comes from a law firm that represents members of the trump family. he interviewed the day before or a few days before he was appointed special counsel with the president who was looking at him potentially to become t

. >> people at school like they are like oh, do you know osama bin laden and like how the heck are we supposed to know him? it's disrespectful. and they are like are you going to bomb the school. >> police say that they took the incident very serious areally, but it's not considered a hate crime because no one broke the law aside from littering.areall but it's not considered a hate crime because no one broke the law aside from littering. no arrests have been made. >>> and residents will have a chance to be directly involved in the process of replacing their district attorney. two weeks ago, mark peterson he resigned after pleading no contest to felony perjury. a grand jury accused him of misconduct be. now the "times" is reporting that before a permanent replacement is hired, there will be a public forum allowing people to weigh in and question the finalists. that hear iing is scheduled for august. >>> imagine holding a funeral for your adult child only to find out he's actually alive. that happened to a father in california who is still trying to figure out how the mixup happened. fr

reduced the capabilities of al quaida senior leaders in that region included, of course, taking out osama binen. but this is a generational struggle. it won't be won in three years, we won't take a hying, flag, plant, go home and a victory parade. we're in for the long haul. it's sustainable. we have been in corina 65 plus years because there is an important national interest for that. we were in europe and still there with a renewed emphasis given russia's aggressive actions, and i think that's the way we need to approach this. to be sure, the forces -- >> woodruff: are you saying we may need to stay in afghanistan 60, 70, 80 years? >> i wouldn't say 60, but we should not approach this as a year-on-year mission. i think that was harmful. i think it gave all the afghan leaders basically get the jitters. those investing money consider every year whether to keep it there or go to dubai. i think this is an important interest, and i think we ought to have a sustained commitment but at a level that is sustainable, and i think a few more, 3,000 to 5,000 more troops are very sustainable, but also we

osama bin laden was from one of the wealthiest families in all of middle east. this isn't about their poor, economic conditions. this is about their religious fanaticism. liz: but it sounded politically correct for this mayor to bring up his religion; right? >> it doesn't matter what his religion is. is there a religion to the attacks of terror? i guarantee all of these were presbyterian, every news story would say we have to do something about presbyterians. but it's not presbyterians. it's not that every muslim is a terrorist because that's absolutely not true. but it is true that most of the indiscriminate hideous acts of terrorism are being done by people in the name of islam. and that's just the fact. liz: president trump tweeting we must stop getting politically correct and get down to the security for our people. if we don't get smart, it's only going to get worse. needed to the president be sopped on his singular focus on radical islamic terrorism? and, by the way, the 9/11 report talks about radical islamist terror. the 9/11 report. go ahead, governor.

and 2010, may 2010, osama bin laden authored a letter directing his followers to use social media toead terrorists propaganda and use it as a recruiting tool. since then, the doj reported it's one of the greatest tools of bringing in young jihadists. this could have been prevented. john cohen, the former director of homeland security, the office of intelligence, said there was a secret rule which disallowed for those that were screening applications for visas. they couldn't use social media as one of those tools to see who had whatever. we could have prevented a lot of this stuff and now we're with the trump administration and we can. >> neil: you know, kennedy. there's so many hours you have to go through on youtube, for example. 200 hours of video uploaded every minute. incredible. that would be a big task. >> of course it's a big task. that's why these companies are developing algorithms at a faster rate than intelligence agencies could. so that's why it's better for them to operate under free market forces then some bureaucracy like theresa may is suggesting and shutting down par

. >> people at school are like, oh, do you know osama bin laden?k am i suppose d to know him? are you going to bomb the school or something? >> police say they take the incident very seriously but that it is not considered a hate crime because no one broke the law aside from littering. no arrests have been made in the sacramento case. >>> happening right now rescue crews are in the process of searching for a san francisco father who vanished after he saved his daughter from drowning in the delta. this happened sunday afternoon in the state park. witnesses say a 40-year-old man and his 5-year-old daughter were kayaking when the kayak flipped and they both went under water. the did surface with his daughter and a person on another boat nearby able to pull her to safety. then the dad slipped back under water, and there has been no sign of him since then. investigators say that neither of them were wearing life jackets at the time. >>> right now a shocking mix-up. a southern california man who thought that his son had died has learned that he buried th

president's daily brief, to guard against leaks, 20 meetings in the situation room followed the osama binfor months, that i struggled to find and appropriate response, only to set on a modest set of sanctions issued late december, well after the election, for more i am joined by a congressional reporter for the washington post and a senior writer for the wall street journal. it's your paper that reported this today. it is a fascinating read. let me ask you the, though the bottom lean question i took away after reading this was how much of this how much of the agonizing that the obamaed a pipstration went through last fall and how much of the facts that the sanctions didn't come down until well after the election, how much is a simple calculation or assumption on the part of the obama administration, you know what, hillary clinton got this election in the bag. let's not stir anything up until it's over, let's get through the election. >> i think there was that surprise when they woke up the morning after the election, wow, this is what we are dealing with now t. president and histomy did n

they followed same protocols as planning sessions for the osama bin laden raid.the president struggled to find an appropriate response only to settle on a modest set of sanctions in late december, well after the election. thank you both for joining me. it is your paper that reported this today. it is a fascinating read. let me ask you this. the bottom line question i took away from this, how much of the agonizing that the obama administration went through last fall and how much of the fact the sanctions didn't come down until well after the election. how many of it is a simple assumption that hillary clinton has this election in the bag. let's not stir anything else up until it's over. let's just get through election lt. >> i think it played a large part of it. there was that surprise, wow, this is what we're dealing with now. the president and his team did not want to give the impression that they were spinning the election in any way. they went to the gang of eight to try to get that bipartisan support and mitch mcconnell wouldn't give it to they will. so they

tying him to nancy pelosi, anarchists, osama bin laden and trying to make the carpet bagger title stick here to the end. >> the people of the sixth district want this to be about the sixict district. they're very concerned about achb individual who does not even live in this district. >> president trump echoed that attack this morning on twitter. democratic osoff. folks, the only prediction we can make right now is the race is going to be very close. for democrats they need a victory to show any signs of this resistance showing political life. and republicans need a rictary to get them a bit more cover if they're going to get the healthcare bill back through the senate. we're just a few hours away from knowing who that will be. joining me now is jim, the expert on georgia politics. good to see you, sir. >> great to be back, chuck. >> all right, we know there's a ton of money, turn out is high, all those things. so what the this race, regardless of the victor and there's going to be a whole of reinterpretations from washington. from your standpoint, what is this about? >> number one, thi

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when we saw osama bin laden killed. that did not necessarily hamper the organization's operations to the degree that then saw them disintegrate. these are organizations, especially when it comes to the expertise like isis has. they have leadership in place to move in and take over. there is as has been mentioned they are savvy when they move around and key operatives continue to be able to carry out what it is that is necessary. whether they are giving direct orders or not. when it comes to the specific battle field at this stage inside mosul and the start of the battle for raqqah itself, those efforts are just as intense as they always have been. as also has been pointed out if in fact this did take place at the end of may, we have seen significant attacks that have been claimed by isis where individuals at least inspired by isis have continued to carry out these kinds of attacks. it is worth again emphasizing that even if the leader of isis has been killed let's not assume that it means an end to the organization itse

reporter: turns out some of the low-level army battlefield reports that manning leaked were found in osama bint i have a responsibility to the public. it's not black and white. it's complicated. >> reporter: but the law was clear. back in the states, the military's response, severe. 22 charges, many under the espionage act. she was facing up to 136 years in prison. even death. now in a military brig at quantico, nine months of solitary confinement before her court-martial even began. the military says for her own protection. what were those days like for you? >> it's a mind game. you're sitting in a room by yourself. >> the u.n. investigator called it cruel and inhuman. >> right. >> reporter: manning ultimately pled guilty to some charges and after a two-month-long court-martial -- >> the verdict, the army private convicted of leaking america's secrets, but spared of the most serious charge, aiding america's enemies. >> reporter: the sentence handed down the longest ever for spilling classified information. here you are, 25 years old. when they said 35 years in prison, what went through your m

in an effort to try and determine whether osama bin laden was actually hiding in a walled compound in abadabad in pakistan, they did door-to-door inoculations hoping that somebody would come to the door, they would be able to come inside, take inoculatios from presumably family members, and then get some type of d.n.a. readout on this. well, this all came to light, of course, after the death of bin laden, and it very much jeopardized not only the doctors that were involved, but it basically turned much of that community in pakistan against polio vaccinations. it became actually... it was very counter productive for public health reasons for that country and the c.i.a. said it wouldn't do that again. >> brangham: daryl grisgraber, what is your sense of what revelations like this could do for the effort in yemen right now? >> well, there are relatively few aid groups operating in yemen because of the security situation. there are in international non-governmental organizations that had to withdraw their staff, so compared to the need in yemen, there are really very few groups addressing