howard: after the matt gaetz fiasco, donald trump picked pam bondi who has precisely the experience thateral in florida and career prosecutor, but much of the media quickly found fault with her as well. now, bondi does have a partisan history with trump. she was on his legal team for the first impeachment and became a top official at a pro-trump superisser pac. she also -- super pac. she also drew flak for saying this. >> the department of justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones. the investigates will be investigated because the deep state, last term for president trump they were hiding in the shadows. >> whether or not she has the experience, the senate also has a big obligation to check whether she meant what she said in those statements and how they are going to try to ensure the independence and the rule of law in the united states. >> i love pam bondi for attorney general. as the president said, she is smart, she is loyal, she's tough and she's an america first. >> pam bondi, a real lawyer with real experience, real character and real competence which has the left

i yield myi'm pam bondi. our party's theme tonight is amer >> i'm pam bondi. our party theme tonight is america the land of opportunity. and listening to the stories of discoveries and deliverance you can't helpt be proud to call ts country home, but for joe biden it's been the land of opportunism, not opportunity. fld i know what it looks like, whether it's by people wearing pinstripe suits or orange jumpsuits, as the democrats convention we were told to look at joe biden as the model of integrity. but when you look at his 47 year career in politics, the people who benefited are his family members, not the american people. let's take a closer look. we all know about joe's son, hunter biden, a corrupt ukrainian oligarch. put hunter on the board of his gas company even though he had no experience in ukraine or in the energy sector. none. yet he was paid millions to do nothing. he only had one qualification that mattered. he was the son of the man in charge of distributing u.s. aid to ukraine and recently reported information revealed that a few months after hun

kash patel, you're exactly right, john ratcliffe, pam bondi. their job is exceptional right now because they have to clean out the political brass at these agencies. if they're going to survive as well as constitutional republic that is the united states of america, our agency cans not be political or covering up and have to do their jobs for good or better or worse and for the good of everybody in the country, that was the bottom line. the american people want agencies that are doing their job uphold the constitution and upholding rule of law and can't pick and choose when to uphold the law. our country won't survive. he's got the mandate and doing it as we speak and the people he's chosen will dot hard work but necessary work of cleaning out agencies and restoring them to former glory. larry: senator marshall, coming to you in a second, but i want to play sound from president elect, trump. play the tape, sir. >> they've used the fbi and department of injustice to go after political opponent and it's never been done in this country. people say

so, here you have pam bondi. supposed to protect the law who will probably be involved in this massive operation to pardon the people who tried to overturn the constitution. it is all there, it is all bizarre and that is what we have to live with. >> you take her and combine her with kash patel what do you get? >> you get a justice department that is no longer independent. you have two people who are basically fans of trump and will do whatever he wants. it is what he said he was going to do. and, the combination of the two of them together should scare the hell out of every american who believes in the rule of law. i recently spent time with one of the capitol police officers that testified january 6th and it broke my heart. how do you look at those guys and the men and women who defended our democracy in the capitol that day and say, and still have faith in our country and our democracy when the american people voted in someone who had no problem with those people assaulting them and defecating and spearing it

kash patel, pam bondi and let's include john ratcliffe over at the ci -- cia.hey are going to show that a successful administration of law and security will, to coin a phrase, make america great again. and that is the riff. all right. let's chew on all this. joining us now, we welcome back kansas senator roger marshall and house members byron donald of florida and i'm going to say the great claudia tenney of new york. there they are. [laughter] thanks to all of us. of i'm glad you got a laugh out of that. senator marshall, i begin with you. there's so many thoughts here. the fact that biden did this is no big surprise. the fact that he did do it is a rather mendacious lie. but the thing that's interesting to me, the broad scope of this, 2014-2016 -- no, 2024, rather. when i heard that last evening, i said to myself, well, that's an add admission of guilt. that's an admission of guilt. all the things that the house has been looking at and the senate has been looking at, you know, theres. he's covering -- there it is. he's covering 2014-2024. in other words, from

. >> pam bondi talks about investigating the investigators. do you want her to investigate jack smith? do you want to see jack smith investigated quick >> i think he is corrupt. >> are you going to director quick >> she is a smart person. she was a great attorney general in florida. i want her to do what she wants to do. i won't instructor. >> i want her to do whatever she wants to do. now, summer listening to that and suggesting, out loud on television, that trump has changed. he didn't say he was going to direct anyone to go after anyone. his tone is different. he is a new man. retribution through success? that doesn't sound bad. before you jump to what i consider an inaccurate conclusion, listen to the same interview. he also said this. >> liz cheney was behind it and so was bennie thompson and everybody on the committee, for what they did, honestly, they should go to jail. >> you think liz cheney should go to jail? >> for what they did. anybody that voted in favor -- >> will you director fbi director and attorney general to send them to ja

foerlorida attorneyeneral pam bondi has beenomated by the president elect to serve as attorney general at the justice department. in 2020 she was a defense attorney for then president trump's first impeachnt trial. she also led the first lawsuit aimedt overturning the affordable care act otherwise ow as omare. up next to look at pam bon in 2012 when she testified at a congressional hearing about florida's efforts to combat prescription drug abuse. >> thank you congresswoman. [inaudible] thank you congresswoman and thank you for championing this cause on behalf of our country. thank you as well ranking member butterfield for having us here today and also to congressman stern from florida and to all the key to many members. we truly appreciate this. i'm here to try about florida's turn to try to stop prescription drug abuse. as congressman stearns of told you to put in perspective of the top 100 oxycodone dealers in the entire country, 98 were in florida. now we have 13. that is with legislation that's been in effect barely a year. so,, last year we had over 900 pain management links reg

in 2020. >> michael steele, i want to read you a little more from the washington post about what pam bondiski drove together to philadelphia. when they first urged giuliani to come to philadelphia, he was initially unsure that was the best place to wage trump's battle to hang onto power but bondi and lewandowski kept calling and eric trump insisted. so she was involved michael steele, in convincing giuliani to join their efforts in pennsylvania, what does that tell you? >> theocracy is alive and well, look, these folks have their own game plan, very much to mark's point, which is about securing an opportunity to prosecute a case which only they believe, the facts do not bear out, 60 courts, federal courts, denied their allegations. secretaries of states in recount after recount in places like arizona and michigan and elsewhere, showed that there was no fraud. they still need suckers to prosecute the case. giuliani in that moment, probably stood -- still had a scintilla of rationality left and said i don't know if this is really a good idea. no, we are all on board because this is where don

we are seeing that with not only patel but pam bondi.is interesting to see how after what happened with matt gaetz the senators are coming around. you and i discussed matt gaetz was a personal thing this seems to be different in these discussions and they are going well. >> okay, okay, i really, a lot of nominees no one is talking about that will get confirmed. rubio, others will just get confirmed they are not controversial on the hill in that way. i don't really understand the kash patel quiet. he has an enemies list in his book. why is this the reaction? >> i think you have to take yourself into the life of a republican senator. when you go home to your state you are hearing this stuff from your people all of the time about the deep state and the fbi and how they are out to get donald trump. what patel said is mainstream for a lot of republican voters so there would be a penalty to say that is disqualifying. you are saying your voters have disqualifying views, there is still a lot to come out on kash patel and the way he cared himself

pam bondi from florida. so is there any justification or validity for what president elect trump is demanding an investigation and possible criminal acts? i don't know what jail time. here's where we need to think a little bit about history here. it didn't happen that long ago january 6th. the president then recruited people to come down to washington for a mass meeting just before congress convened to confirm the election. they came, thousands of them. he then exhorted them to go to the capitol and take the election back. they did. we know what happened at the capitol. this was not a tour gone bad, as some republicans he said. this was exactly the kind of insurrection that people talked about. this is not where people are seeking out a president for political reasons. there are obviously things done here that deserved investigation, and that's what the committee did. right? that's what zoe lofgren said. an honest depiction of what happened. so could there be an investigation or is this just empty rhetoric b

he may have found them in pam bondi, his attorney general pick and kash patel's nominee to run the fbi. a dangerously unqualified political ally who already has a reputation for selective leaks and who has promised the new trump administration will go after journalists he does not like. even as we are still learning about the depths of the last trump administration's obsession with surveilling and punishing critics, trump and his allies are already signaling that it will be much worse in this next administration. ken dilanian, justice and intelligence correspondent for nbc news and he's been tracking this and he joins me with more details. it's good to have you on the show. you been covering the investigation since it started in 2021. what jumped out to you in the new inspector general's report? >> great to be with you. what jumped out to me was the scope. we did not understand until today that the department of justice subpoena the phone and text logs of 43 congressional staffers, have democrats and have republicans in addition to the two lawmakers we already know about, adam schiff a

pam bondi is actually going to be in d.c.o meet with republican lawmakers on capitol hill. pam bondi has been serving as florida's attorney general out here. trump picture after matt gaetz withdrew his own name from the nomination process. pam bondi is widely respected and repeatedly sued the biden administration over open border policies. longtime playlist and g.o.p. senator chuck grassley will meet with pam bondi this morning in d.c. she is expected to meet with other republicans to pave the way for a smooth confirmation process. in addition to charles kushner with ambassador of france coach a big-time splashy pick over the weekend was nomination of kash patel for fbi director. as you can imagine that announcement shock waves through watching to mostly outrage from democrats and praise from trump's allies. he served defense roles under trump's first administration. trump has called him a brilliant lawyer and investigator and "america first fighter who has spent his career exposing corruption." lawrence, this is where it get

pam bondi, you said she suggested that matt gates was an attempt to make pam bondi look normal whicha funny way of raising a. you pointed to her refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election. it's another important nomination. have you made a decision on where you stand on that nomination? >> i am skeptical because what i pointed out when she was announced, for someone who denies the results of the 2020 election, someone who believed and touted there was massive amounts of voter fraud throughout the country, i was serving as california secretary of state at the time. challenged team trump to bring forward evidence i had. years and years later, not a single shred of evidence of massive voter fraud in america. the fact she served as one of trumps personal attorneys, first impeachment trial, does beg the question, is she going in to try to do the job of attorney general of the united states independent of the political leanings of the white house? or will she do trump's bidding the american people deserve to know. >> a lot of questions about you will have. i started off talking abo

that's why he's picking pam bondi to the run the department of justice.victimized during the biden administration, the jewish american students, jewish americans, catholics, first amendment, new sheriff is in town and they are going to protect your rights and there won't be a dual system of justice, president trump is going to protect america's not only during his administration but he will set the pattern and set the model for all future presidents, that's the rule of justice should be blind, to picking out winners and losers. mark: you make great points and all those things need to be done and let me put it this way, what was done to donald trump was the greatest farce in american history. to use the department of justice, the fbi, to use the courts, to use prosecutors in a way that no other president in american history has done, not even woodrow wilson and he was bad enough, this wasn't even done during the civil war period when the country was breaking apart for a president to do this, and i don't want to hear that he didn't know, of course, he knew,

this >> well, i honestly think if pam bondi doesn't get democrat votes, the democrats are setting a veryrecedent to where all nominations will be shirt and skins. pam clearly had the prosecutorial experience. i have heard a democrat congress member say she has the requisite experience. this is a member of congress. i think if you look at her record, if you take a look at her temperment and take a look at her tough on crime stance, it's exactly what the department of justice needs. i will support her nomination. >> neil: get a sense of where this process is going. how many of these picks do you suspect will be approved before january 20th when the president-elect is president again. >> i think very few might be. i think we will have a lot in the pipeline but having many confirmations that quickly really depends on which ones get sent forth first. i believe pam bondi should be one of the first ones out of the gate but to get it done by the end of january, requires a lot of calisthenics. we have f.b.i. background checks, all the times coming in. it is difficult to ingest all that and do a h

to me that's the most important thing pam bondi can do. i know she is committed to doing that and intend to do everything i can to help her >> martha: exciting day in washington. everybody is expecting a big shake-up to happen thanks to musk and ramaswamy and the senators on board. day three right now of the jury deliberations in the daniel penny trial as we swing our attention right here to new york city. we could get a verdict in the penny trial at any minute so stay tuned for that. debate over children getting medical treatments to change their gender. one detransitioner has this to share. >> a decision that will effect not only the entire development of fizzically, developmentally and reproductively is completely ridiculous. >> martha: she would know and has been through it herself. parents and doctors have encouraged changes before the age of 18. the supreme court looking into the constitutionality whether or not this is something that the constitution will uphold, whether or not it should be banned these medical procedures for minors

it's a series of getting to know you sessions between pam bondi and senators. first up incoming judiciary committee chairman chuck grassley. other meetings in the mix, lindsey graham said bondee is right for the job. >> the only people that need to worry about pam bondi are the ones who want to use the law for the political purpose. those in the department of justice who want to make the department of justice an extension of politics. >> judiciary committee chairman dick durbin says he doesn't want to pre-judge her. republicans say it's time to clean up the department of justice. >> we've seen a d.o.j. and f.b.i. that have been weaponized, you look at letitia james literally campaigned on prosecuting donald trump. the fact is that our system of justice needs to be depoliticized. >> chatter about the pick of kash patel to lead the f.b.i. no meetings between patel and senators are scheduled yet. the term of f.b.i. director christopher wray does not expire until 2027. republicans believe the d.o.j. and f.b.i. need serious reforms. >> no secret to anybody, includin

attorney general pam bondi visited lawmakers nothing she and vivekh patel picked to clean out the justice department and the fbi, divide is like a part of hunter, and demarcus that we cannot have this two-tier system of justice anymore and kash patel said that and majority ned ryan yes so counsel david weiss who prosecuted hunter cutting to plead guilty and sing this would fight joe biden's pardon and what do you think. nd: i think pam bondi and kash patel feather work it out for them heavily weapon icing heavily politicized in time for them to go in and clean house my sincere hope so the 53 republican senators all of them about two different both pam bondi and kash patel indigo in the completely restructure from the top down and take all of the corrupt officials and api corrupt agents pretty unruly to think liz, if you go back and you look especially the fbi did in line to that court more space top of think seated trinity got the duly elected president highly destabilizing unruly to our country but i would argue even to the world. we needed deal with the doj and fbi to get them back to w

then he went with pam bondi. is this because he is familiar with these people? bviously he has a connection with bondi. bondi worked on his impeachment trial. trump has donated to her while she was considering an investigation into trump university. is the similarity we are seeing? because i will note that another state that is staffing a lot of these potential government posts for trump, they are from new york. trump's's other state. i suggest that? is it just familiarity? >> it is familiarity mixed with how much you are going to do the thing i want you to do. and matt gaetz was, in trump my in mind, even though it was reportedly decided on a whim on a flight, that matt gaetz is the kind of person who would be the kind of attorney general who would do whatever trump says is the law. not worry about what is actually legal or not. in the same way, pam bondi has shown herself to be someone who trump can rely on to do what is in her best interest. especially if that aligns with him. so, i think in trying to put pam bondi, i think, also, there is no one else really c

pam bondi is an election denier, right?nt officer. this is somebody who we should look to to enforce the nation's laws and to respect the court rulings when you don't agree with the court rulings. she is still embracing the big lie from 2020 and that, i think, is very concerning to the career people at the justice department. >> pam bondi's confirmation hearing will be another one to watch closely. >> right. >> whenever it gets scheduled. anthony coley, msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst thank you for your time. >>> next up, treasury secretary janet yellen's warning about u.s. debt and what americans need to do to avoid a default. >>> coming up on "morning joe," a closer look at the life and legacy of former president jimmy carter after his passing at the age of 100. the head of habitat for humanity will join the conversation to reflect on the former president's volunteer work. >>> plus, president biden mourns carter's death in an address from st. croix. we will get a live report from the island where biden is spending

what are pam bondi's chances? good? >> i would say better than pete hegseth's at this point.gh given what we have seen trickle out about his background and the various allegations that women have made against him. and kash patel will be another one who is pretty hard to get through. so, yeah, pam bondi, by contrast, seems perfectly conventional even though she's not quite in the mold of the typical attorney general nominee, i think, you know, in the trump reality, she's, she seems okay. >> well, we have a little comment. chuck grassley said they weren't going to take questions, but bondi said should i earn the trust of the senators, i will work tirelessly for the american people. there she is on capitol hill. the woman who donald trump has selected, pam bondi. he wants her to be the new attorney general. brandan buck, jeremy peters, thank you, both. coming up, the states of emergency as winter misery blankets the great lakes with feet of snow. inter misery blankets the great lakes with feet of snow of liste rine. it kills 99.9% of bad breath germs for five times more cleaning

pam bondi and kash patel are election deniers. kash patel has empathized with qanon. they know who the direction is. he doesn't need to direct them. they have passed the loyalty test. what struck me is moretown, not a difference -- more tone, not a difference in what he intends to do or what he wants the people he's nominating to do. >> a critical point. heats -- he's put hard-liners in charge of immigration policy. he said we are deporting everyone, though he says he wants to work out a deal for dreamers. >> i think that is where he stopped the most about when you think about what his policies are going to be, is immigration. when you went through tick by tick of the kinds of things that we're seeing, he had a lot of ideas. and it was kind of the most clarity we've gotten on fwrimz immigration from him. he and his team feel like he has the backing of the american people, especially on mass deportation. in some polls 53% of americans say that they are for mass deportation. now, when you dig into kind of what that means and what you want to get your neighbors out of th

pam bondi could repeal it on day one, when she comes in, if she is confirmed as attorney general. so, this does serve as a warning, ayman, that the justice department also has surveillance powers and they can do it in secret. we will never find out about it. and particularly journalists are very concerned right now about what could happen over the next four years. >> let me pick up on that specific point, because it kind of goes in tandem with this line in your reporting that jumped out at me. the leak investigations did not result in criminal charges. and given the tenure -- 10 year statute of limitations for given crimes, the could be reopened by the new administration. so, in addition to any new scrutiny that the trump administration puts on politicians, reporters, or anything else they want us to gin up, they could actually just go back and prosecute this stuff that originated out of the 2016 russia investigation. it could come in the simplest sense of the word, be the retribution that he has sought. >> reporter: and that is the reason we put it in the story, because it is a s

how far they get is another story in terms of pam bondi, the incoming attorney general. you mentioned kash patel as well. what's the constitutionality? what's the legality? did they break a law by investigating something? no, i mean, i think everybody can just about say that, but break. not brking the law and going after somebody doesn't necessarily mean that you can't do it. so, you know, in this case, i think the former president has talked about retribution. well, this is his retribution. this is his chance to go ahead and try to correct the record. but the record can't be corrected. we know what happened on january 6th. we also know the role that the former president played on january 6th. i mean, these things cannot be dismissed no matter how you try to paint it over. another interesting part of all of this, mr. trump said he would also pardon some of the people that we see here who were convicted of being part of the january 6th attack. this seems to be on brand. he said he would and he said it again in the cnbc interview. he calls these people convicted of insurre

but that's not going to be my decision, that's going to be pam bondi's decision.kash patel. so i think they're both going to get approved. but while you ask me that, what they've done to me, with weaponization is a disgrace. >> we'll get to some of that -- >> you can't do one without the other. in the history of our country, nothing like this has ever happened. and i've won these cases. every one and the rest are in the process of being won. deranged jack smith is on his back to the hague where he can execute people. this is where he should have stayed. i think he's dangerous even being there. but what they've done to me in terms of weaponization, indictments, impeachments and everything else. and in the end, it probably helped me. i got the biggest vote, the most votes any republican has ever gotten in history. >> pam bondi talks about investigating the investigators. do you want to see jack smith investigated? >> i want her to do whatever she has to do. >> are you going to direct her to investigate jack smith? >> no, i'm no she's a smart person. a great attorney

but then pam bondi someone who's very loyal to him and whose independence has been questioned is it then your belief that the justice department, i mean, the law enforcement, federal law enforcement, should americans have faith in federal law enforcement now because it seems that this decision has brought that into question i think what it brings it into question is the nominees that donald trump has put forward, matt gaetz pam bondi kash patel tulsi gabbard. >> these are not people who are going to implement the rule of law. they are they have been picked to weaponize the federal government against donald trump's enemies and his adversaries. and that is that is the risk to the rule of law. and that is why joe biden used his authority to protect his son. >> and what you're saying then and i hear i hear your argument then it sounds like you're saying, yes, that americans cannot have faith in federal law enforcement as it is implemented by these picks that trump is making. i mean, is that a fair representation of your opinion on this i think it's yet to be seen and certainly i'm not going

that's at the doj, where i think pam bondi is going to do a great job of cleaning up that agency. and we need a breath of fresh air. and that's why i think kash patel is going to bring. and you notice, as you said in the introduction, republicans are very bullish about kash patel and they're very optimistic about him getting through this process. >> meeting with today. >> so he has a whole range of folks today, as you said, senator cornyn. but he has some other meetings. he'll be on the hill most of the week. and we have a number of the different nominees who are actually on the hill this week continuing meetings. in the case of pete hegseth are starting meetings themselves including tulsi gabbard. >> yeah, we're going to talk about all of that. i want to just focus a little bit more on kash patel. as you know, he has made some controversial comments. he's laid out a list of 60 political enemies in his book, who he calls, quote, members of the executive branch, deep state trump made it clear in his nbc interview that he wants to give wide latitude to his picks like patel. if he's

pam bondi has shown over her career she's willing to do that as well. that was the position he wants someone who is as loyal as possible as soon as possible. >> erin, i'm not sure two letters and one number have as ever caused as much controversy as h1b as the last couple of days. the h1b visa conversation has erupted in a fire storm of controversy and end fighting within the republican party. elon musk and vivek ramaswamy have now sort of found themselves on the outs with hard-core mega rights. i'm wondering, is this a preview of what we can expect as the republican party moves toward? can they keep it together to even get the confirmation picks through? how long is maga paradise going to last into this administration? >> yeah, i mean, normally you would think the honeymoon period would at least go into inauguration or the first 100 days, but things already seem to be going off the rails. the fight you mentioned over the last several days over h1b visa issue with what we already saw with the shutdown showdown. the government shutdown that was narrowly

no questions. >> now pam bondi meets next hour with lindsay graham. with u.s.assador elise stefanik. defense -- bill hagerty and tommy tommy vail. >> sandra: with the update from the hill. thank you. colorado democratic governor meanwhile ripping biden's decision to pardon his son saying it sets a bad precedent by putting family ahead of country. what do our next guests think? tom dupree is here and uc berkeley law professor and former distant -- john, to you first. what is your reaction? what should people think about it? >> i am sad to say to a failed presidency. the founders clearly gave the president the power to pardon whoever he wanted of federal crimes. the purpose of the pardon power is to break up the impurities against the united states or to show mercy. president biden's claims that this is selective prosecution don't hold any water. for example, hunter biden was convicted by a jury of his peers in delaware. he pled guilty to wide-ranging tax fraud and evasion. and most importantly, he was prosecuted by the justice department and with his father sits

. >> vaughn, what could this mean for the push for kash patel and pam bondi? blank, will you follow the house gop recommendation to open a criminal probe into liz chaney or other trump political rivals? how will they answer? >> reporter: and this is no longer just campaign fodder, of going after his perceived political enemies or one-off comment. two weeks ago he told our kristen welker that liz chaney and members of the january 6 select committee should be jailed and now in this 3:30 a.m. post calling for her to be investigated. for pam bondi, the ag pick, and kash patel, they are going to get pointed questions whether they intend to follow donald trump's wishes and investigate both members. this is why both pam bondi and ka kash patel have said about their roles. >> the department of justice, the prosecutors will be prosecuted. >> we will go out and find the conspirators, not just in government but in the media. yes, we're going to come after the people in the media who lied about american citizens who helped joe biden rig elections. we're putting you all on

you have pam bondi coming into round the doj if she gets confirmed.ld he be confirmed. what you think they will do in terms of getting rid of the politicization that both biden and trump say in the justice department? >> if biden actually believed his son was politicized by the justice department's prosecution, then why has he not fired one employee? of the justice department? because if he believes there is corruption and he believes they are unfairly targeting individuals, he has the authority to fire those prosecutors. yet, he hasn't done that. >> john: he has not fired anybody. >> this is the first president to ever pardon thayer st. pierre to that is absolutely atrocious. fed two irs whistle-blowers before the committee, what they shared with us and what they provided what they showed that justice department bid to delayed their investigation, to divulge information to hunter biden's lawyers. for example, they were going to do a search warrant at the storage unit in virginia and guess what, that justice department contacted hunter biden's lawyers

one is trump's pick for attorney general, pam bondi.ecord as a prosecutor and former attorney general of florida. alex tappa explains what else we know about bondi. >> pam bondi is like a rocket ship. she's very popular. >> reporter: president-elect donald trump has chosen former florida ag pam bondi as his pick for attorney general. she studied at the university of florida and got her law degree from stetson university. then she was a prosecutor. in 2010 bondi was elected as florida's first female attorney general. as florida's ag bondi was a key figure in the fight against obamacare. >> we believe it's unconstitutional. it's an overreach by the federal government. >> reporter: she courted controversy fighting and failing to keep florida's ban on same sex marriage. >> i put my hand on a bible and swore to uphold the constitution of the state of florida. >> reporter: for opting not to join new york's attorney general in an investigation into trump university over allegations of fraud. >> at trump university we teach success. that's what

donald trump, with the appointments of kash patel, matt gaetz, and pam bondi, has said that the rule for whatever the other side is, the rule of law side, the democracy coalition, the democratic party, the -- i mean, there needs to be an adjustment and a calibration that they are fighting the last war. i mean, i hear what claire is saying, that we -- i guess -- he went back on his word and that is not a good thing. he said he would let the system of justice run its course. he seems to have done just that. it is also true and "the new york times" has reported extensively there was a deal when house republicans went on fox news and the merrick garland department caved and threw the book to hunter biden. i won what the pro democracy and rule of law side will stop looking backward and understand the world we live in. we live in a world where the rule of law means nothing to donald trump. he ran on retribution and then he put the retribution guy atop the fbi and gaetz was the person who sent to run the department of justice, a guy who was investigated under bill barr and merrick garland f

pam bondi at justice. you have the makings of a not so slow-motion authoritarian takeover of the united states government. and people ought to be really concerned about this. >> tim, we talked a bit about this, you and i, about the overloading of the system, basically. in which case senate republicans are just sort of overwhelmed by it, maybe want to defeat one or two of them, but they are not going to defeat all of them. how do you see this playing out on the ? are they just going to say okay, we will give you rfk junior, we will give you tulsa gabbard, but please know kash patel. or is there enough backbone there, you think, to defeat multiple nominees? >> i don't know, i think it's possible. we saw with matt gaetz already, and i was surprised how quickly that happened. to me, kash patel, and i don't say this lightly, is the most dangerous using yet to our democracy. you may think having pete hegseth running the military is a literal danger because of his lack of experience or tulsa gabbard at intelligen

his language echos pam bondi, same words used, her, of course, nominee for a.g.wo of them together working together look a hijacking of the criminal justice system federally, and i want to point out that the discussion around fbi background checks here's what trump within the last week has hinted at, he'll try -- he may try to appease the senate judiciary committee permitting background checks only after in office, after he will place kash patel into an acting position as fbi director and guess who will oversee the so-called fbi background investigations, someone unlikely to want to see any derogatory information. that 200-day acting period can extend beyond seven months if there's wrangling and dispute within the senate judiciary committee. with regard to hegseth from the national security perspective, someone who paid off one woman, his own mother calls him a womanizer and abuser, what that does for our foreign adversaries, we have somebody who might be black mailable, subject to extortion. what else is there out there we don't know? i can assure you our advers

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you look at someone like matt gaetz, matt gaetz's nomination falls apart, pam bondi then becomes moresonable simply because she is not matt gaetz. >> right. >> i think we are setting up potentially to see 2.0 of that with hegseth and with desantis, where simply because desantis doesn't have some of the baggage that hegseth has that you could say, okay, this is a totally rational, normal nominee. and yet so much of what you and i have watched happen in florida points in the other direction. >> yeah. >> specifically when it comes in the ways you should use law enforcement, use the national. when you think ron desantis for d.o.d., what does that say to you? >> well, first, i just have to start by saying it's got to be really embarrassing to be ron desantis in this moment because he's gone from believing he would be the next president of the united states and chastising people in his own party for kissing the ring of donald trump to playing understudy to the fox news host who may not get the job because he has a drinking problem. so, set that aside, the embarrassment that it is to be ron

>> pam bondi is a 20 year prosecutor and has worked with democrats and republicans alike. i would be shocked if she decides to do whatever trump tells her to do regardless of the law. you can look at her career and see she has tethered to the rule of law. even when she makes these comments on fox news is as a different role as an analyst or commentator then it is as attorney general. i think she will ultimately do what she thinks is necessary to carry out his priorities but will only go so far. she will learn the rule of john durham, he was humiliated when he investigated the investigators. she does not want that to happen to her. >> let me restate this for people on the west coast, i think at the end of the day when they think about it, the people around trump are going to say, you do not want to lift the rock back up from the january 6 investigation. you do not want the testimony of your i.t. person to leak out. you do not want the itu testimony about the cameras and the possible flooding. all of this stuff, i don't think that is in his best interest politically. let alo

and i think, obviously, with the selection of pam bondi and kash patel that's exactly what he's going to do. do you have any reservations about patel potentially going after president elect trump's political enemies? patel has a list of names in his book look, i don't think the american people are interested in a revenge tour. but obviously, if people did wrong in their official capacities then that's something they should be concerned about. but if they didn't do anything wrong, if they upheld the law, then there shouldn't be a problem. the objective here, obviously, is to reform the department of justice and the fbi and get it back to its mission of going after criminals. you know growing up in new york. the fbi, in the aftermath of nine over 11, was focused on going after terrorism and obviously in recent years, we've seen the fbi and the department of justice weaponized in a way that it has become completely political. that's not good for the american people. it's not good for our system of justice. the lack of confidence that americans have in the department of justice and the fb

attorney general, pam bondi, as well as secretary of defense nominee pete hegseth, both of them are on capitol hill today. how confident is trump that they'll succeed and get confirmed well, jake they aren't the only ones. >> i should note that we are expecting other members that he has picked to be in his cabinet. should they get confirmed by those senators that they are meeting with, are expected to be on capitol hill all week, as they are moving ahead to what this is going to look like and how soon those confirmation hearings are going to start. once trump is sworn in. you just saw chuck grassley putting out a statement saying that pam bondi, trump's pick for attorney general, will get a very quick confirmation process, at least a hearing underway. we'll see what the republican senators say on her of course, she has been a much less controversial, controversial pick than trump's last one that he had picked for the to run the justice department. but pete hegseth is also up there as well, jake. and that was more of a question mark, even for people back at mar-a-lago who just in recent

so, you are going to be part of questioning pam bondi.you ask her the question, will you go after the political enemies and she says no, do you believe her? >> i think first of all, the first important thing was achieved with our pushing this last week, which is we are going to get these fbi background checks in most cases, we hope it. x it is a big deal. >> we are not going to have these recess appointments for cabinet members. so, we can have full out hearings. and we can ask the questions that need to be asked, and as you know in the past, presidents of both parties have lost their nominees because of things that happen at hearings or because of things that come out of background checks, so that is the first thing. the fbi director, could i say, i will be ag nominee in the coming weeks, but on the fbi director, this is a guy -- when trump ran for president, one of the things they promised -- republicans promised more safety, they are putting a guy in here who has over and over again and said that his main focus is the conspiracy, reven