hi, patti ann. the affordable care act blown rollout has democrats an the white house on defense and pushed the government shutdownls and it was hurting republicans but gop was divided over tactics couple weeks ago because of shutdown and they're united around the failures of healthcare.gov. as you say a handful of senate democrats facing tough reelections who oppose delays, even negotiating a couple weeks ago already blinked. jeanne shaheen of new hampshire urged the president to delay the deadline. mark begich of alaska, kay hagan of north carolina, mark pryor of arkansas all signed on. they're some of the most vulnerable democrats in the country. here is some heat they face at home. >> mark pryor supports obamacare. even lately he is more extreme. he voted against any delays. when he had to stop the special deal for members congress he voted no. with mark pryor, it is obamacare or everyone else but not for him. >> reporter: there are several other democrats up for re-election including mr. udall

>> hold on, hold on. >> patty, patty. are you upset with us? >> i mean ... i'm ...tever. >> i do have this issue, so it would be helpful to get the answer. >> to understand the context here, patty is our boss, she's behind the camera, she doesn't wannabe in front of the camera. she's a little like, are you serious? that's what's happening. >> thank you, ian. that's exactly what's happening. >> the favor i have to ask of you, patty, is to take off the producer hat for a moment and put on your patient hat. because dr. carey o'seal was here, and i asked him to stick around knowing we would give you an opportunity - we will not force you - but an opportunity to get an exam right now in the greenroom with dr. o'seal. he's in there waiting, he has his equipment. if you are willing. >> all right, patty! [ applause ] >> what is that you tell me? we all have to do things we don't like to do sometimes. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> see, what's great, patty, is, when you work on the doctors, the doctor comes to you. >> thank you travis! [ applause ] >> coming up. >> all right a

but i don't want patty's show into turning to find celebrities love. i don't like when celebrities go on the show, what was carson doing there? i saw jenny mccarthy. you have been pulling your own love. i like when real people do millionaire matchmaker. they are not filtered and that is the entertaining part. also, what happened to that couple, those two weird looking people but nice that used to work in her office t girl with the purple green straight hair and the gu you know, they were married, what happened? did she fire her whole staff? what's going on over there? well, patty, you are coming back, we'll be watching. [ applause ] so there is a request in brooklyn to name an intersection after the late biggy small and it has been denied. for a few surprising reasons. well, residents are complaining a lot of complaints about biggy's criminal past, his sexist lyrics and most shockingly they complain he's too fat to be a role model for kids. >> that i don't think any of that stuff matters because, you know, he ended his life on a high note. so what does

.] >> patti: let's chk back with judy.t's only been aut a minute and look at how far her style has come already. she's using the perfecter to hide that cowlick, and even in the back, she has no problem using both of her hands to style her hair. and this is christi. her over-processed hair is seitive, so hot tools can cause terrible damage, stripping the life right out of her hair. >>he fusion styling is really at'soing to give her hair at hydration. the-- moisture gets pulle out out of the air into the hair and that's whyt works so wel making a of the hair full and shin >> did you all kw at, with ions? did you hear... moisture? righ , ri> right,xactlyr >> let's heaitor hea for your hair. [audiee applauds] imrtanthing is that th mediumength longer hair, the nylon bristles are perfectly aligned so this is just gliding through her hair. we're not going to get it caught, we're not going to get ittuck. she cause hetwo hands and what's great about it is, u ow, yoget that shine. >> audience: wow... >> you just literally take a se

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people couldn't stand patty's reaction. they're like why aren't you more excited?o to ask her ourselves where was the excitement, we have patty and chris joining us via skype. explain your reaction to all those haters. >> i guess i was nervous because i was meeting his mother. and then there's the car and i'm going where's his mother. >> she's thinking the car and the mom. >> so if that wasn't part of the day, what would your reaction have been? >> we'd have gone out and done some donuts. >> you guys also think some of these quote, unquote, haters online maybe are just a little bit jealous? >> absolutely. >> up guys put out another video of patty in a nice slinky black dress driving the stingray. that seems to have gotten a lot more likes. >> yeah, she cleanse up okay, i guess. >> so when is sri going to meet the mom? >> pretty quick. >> big pumpkin dropping candy. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> this video is getting a lot of attention online. you're going to see why. >> baby able, are you ready to break the world record of the most back flips? >> you heard him say, baby able, that th

let me ask patty ann a question. have you a son. he goes to school.an't be sure with your life style. as a partner, parent, oh... >> would you be offended by this? >> yes. >> that is the question. >> where are we? look. let kids be kids. everything you do involves risks. you just can't lock inside and not do anything. i think -- this is all about lawsuits you know? stay out of concussions. i agree with nick. how are people getting concussions from tag? >> they suck at it. >> you suck at it. >> probably there have been lawsuits that is what this is all b let's kill all of the lawyers. >> what? are you kidding snee. >> my whole family is lawyers. i can't say that. >> usually when you're a kid you were it at the game of tag or told you you were it as they ran from your stench. >> i hate to say it but tag is horrible. people would say i was a tag hag. that i thaid be wrong. when i was a kid, people would come up to me and say mom says i can't play tag with you because you have hepatitis. tag doesn't ininjure your risk, it injures your hole soul and hepati

good morning, elizabeth. >> good morning patti ann.he global fallout from the document leak continues. p one report is that the surveillance program was tabbing the vatican. the nsa public affairs office responding after the report was published writing in part the national security agency does not target the vatican. assertions the nsa public publid the have aing zein are not through. that isn't the only place the nsa has been putting out fires. nsa staffers were accessing the main communication links between yahoo and google. they did it globally. why would they do this? it would allow them to reach into data streams and snag e-mails video chats pictures and even more. this is a claim nsa chief keith alexander denies entirely. listen here. >> nsa does collect information on terrorists p and our national intelligence priorities. but we are not ail authorized t into servers and take data. >> the video conferencing system the president reporting the nsa to curtail eavesdropping within the u.n. headquarters. >> elizabeth prann live in wa

i'm requesting to talk to patty. in just a minute. i can see that she's establishing her communications with us, trying to plug in and get through. can you hear me, patty. >> sorry, we've got people on the phone. we're going to stop that since i'm talking live on television. >> i could wait for you if you wanted. >> no, kimberly is on her way. capitol police are expected to have a press conference. she wanted to head over there so she could get to you with what is happening. twitter and media is reporting a lot of different things. but remember especially with america, and we saw this at the navy yard, people will jump to conclusions. as you have been saying and appropriately so we don't know that this has anything to do with politics or even the capital. southern california, it's a veee been shootings. it did look like he had a badge on his shoulder, which indicates he might have been a capitol hill policeman. it looked like he was being airlifted.

patty is still working through her enormous grief.nd doing her best to raid her 3-year-old and 5-year-old. her son barely remembers daddy. >> i really have tried to look at this as a challenge, and not be a victim, but be a survivor. >> reporter: somehow she is finding time to push for passage of a bill. >> the state leads the country in the statistics on a per capita basis. >> reporter: wagner says current florida law gives drunk drivers incentive to leave the scene of an accident. they know they will do less time when they drive off. the proposed act would impose a mandatory minimum sentence for leaving the scene of an accident. and increase sentences. >> this is not a short-term project getting more people into prison. it's also an educative product. >> reporter: other states have already passed laws protecting pedestrians, cyclists, and other vulnerable users of the road. patty hopes in the act becomes law fewer families will have to live with a void in their lives. >> you can't get bogged down in the anger, you can try to change

we also got word of an outage where patti lee just was. high winds have caused another outage this one on treasure island. here's a live picture of treasure island. you see lights are on. the island was dark about 7:00 tonight about 2,000 people live on ti. the san francisco public utilities commission says crews have been working to get power restored and we just got a call a few minutes ago from a resident on treasure island who said his power came on just before 10:00. as you can see from that picture lights were on. for more information on the wind related incidents all over the area and the power outages you can log on to ktvu.com. >>> we are learning more details about a suspect who shot at police. police released that before he fired at them, he fired at another man. >> reporter: there's more details to the story. the first is a pistol whipping at a bank. police found him near castro valley. the suspect he ran north into the neighborhood and that's where police confronted him and shot him at least once. >> san francisco marina neigh

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patti ann, ainsley, back to you. >> thank you so much. elizabeth prann live for us in washington this morning. >>> we asked you on twitter and facebook what do you think they will be asking kathleen sebelius. >> penny said why didn't you contact ebay, et cetera to ask their web die signers to bid? are you planning to return all of the money wasted on this rollout? also stan asking why did you ignore the project manager hes this web site project when they told you the site wasn't ready. who made the decision to launch anyway. keep tweeting and e-mailing your questions we will show more as the show goes on. >>> it is time now to look whose talking. finally someone is saying they are sorry for the disastrous obama carolout. she testified before congress yesterday and apologized for the web site not working and promised it can and will be fixed. when grilled about people not being able to keep their current healthcare plan as promised by the president she was left speechless. >> the millions of americans attempted to use healthcare.gov to sho

coa coast>> ainsley, patti ann, good morning to you. it seems like a year since super storm sandy impacted the east coast impacting 24 states where we are standing here. there was a huge set back months later after the storm came through. the disrecovery process is ongoing. >> part of that include a massive buyout plan. they will knock down homes in sandy affected communities and offering residents prestorm value in their home. staten island is the first area to be bought out. >> i signed the papers, accepted their offer. they have been more than fair. >> in the ocean breeze section of staten island the neighborhood remains mostly deserted bud they are vowing to rebuild. >> a year later they are under repair no kitchen, no bathroom, this room is painted and the floor went down a year later. we have a long way to go. >> along jersey shore in seaside heights they began to rebuild only to suffer a major set back. it may have been compromised water and sand we have the time lapse of putting it back together a rush to get this boardwalk toge

we're going to tell you the results of a study by the esteemed organization patty power bingo that shows that while women love their husbands and their significant others, it looks as if four in ten women would rather hang out with other women, their girlfriend, than their guy. >>brian: for more on this let's go to our girl elisabeth hasselbeck. elisabeth, is it true that you're one of the four women that would rather hang out with other women than your husband? >>elisabeth: let me preface my response with this. i believe nine out of ten men are probably excited

. >> i'm patti ann browne in for jenna lee. she is in texas to promote the health care overhaul. yesterday she blew off demands to step down. >> majority of people who are calling me to resign are people who i don't work for and do not want this program to work in the first place. i have had frequent conversations with the president and i committed to him my role is to get the program up and running and we will do just that. >> well that hasn't stopped the drumbeat of complaints or questions about why the system failed so miserably. >> the administration told us they were ready. when october first launch tate they would be ready. told us that summer, a number of times in terms of formal testimony with the committee in letters and everything else. today we learn this was so compartmentalized, they didn't test the whole system only two weeks before october 1st. so they didn't really have any clue it was going to work or

>> well, patty, not only be able to wash but you can also dry it.out to invent this pillow, i wanted it to have everything. so not only do i warranty it 10 years, to n go flat, i didn't want it to get any dirty. i wanted to be able to wash and dry it. with all my experimentation i did, i finally came up with the right patented fill that you could do that with. and other pillows that we've tried, i've got them right here. this first one here with that fiber fill, look what happened to it. >> it looks distorted. >> that's terrible. now i see it might match the guy with the big head but it's not going to match anybody else's, absolutely terrible. the next one, we actually just set this one in here. we didn't actually wash and dry because it says absolutely do not wash and dry it. and so when this is dirty, when this goes flat, you're done. >> well, and that's the little portable heater. that's the one you sweat on, so. >> right, right, right, right. so that one's going to not only get full of sweat but it's going to be disgusting. >> that's no good. >>

we are at the patty's table.er it's serves up a lot.ou can we got a lot to share with you this morning, because this woman here is a worker bee. patty, you are non-stop. >> i am non-stop. i can't stop. >> it's just your spirit.it. >> it's just --s ju >> today is october first, it's hispanic heritage month, and we thought it would bean fun to celebrate and you said come have a fiesta at my house. >> come have a fiesta and i want to talk beans. beans are such a big topic. they don't know what to do with beans, they need to buy them cooked.ood. it's super easy to cook them at home. and there's so many options. >> what do i need to know? >> we have the black beans. we is have a strong concentrated flavor. they are my favorite, dismn you have the white beans or the navy beans which are much softer, an you know, they're cute, they'ree small, and then. >> i never thought of beans as e cute before, but i can see that. they're cute. >> they are adorable. >> and then you have the red kidney beans which have bigger and have

patty mcgreuely. known for getting in the president's face in 29, and tj gentle, a small be ceo who met with the president last week, tj, what the heck is going on? they take a break >> you know, i think if these guys had to run their own business, they would not be in siness long. we would have workedhrough the weeko work this out with a huge even occurring with the debt ceiling. charles: patty, a lot of time people try toquate government to. saying, we would never be in this pr problem, what is it that you think these guys don't get about urgency and about their commitment and obligationo american public. >> i don't think they getting any, i don't think they care, this is old movie groundhog's day, or definition of insanity, we do the same thing ove and over, expecting a different result, this is the fourthime we have faced this during bong. dodge, and two year -- during the obama administration, two years ago we ha the super duper 8 people who would take care of this. i am looking for them with on

it's patty murray on the budget on the senate and paul ryan from the house. it's december 13th. it's going into a holiday season. are they going to be serious about putting everything on the table? and that means entitlement cuts. >> it means entitlement cuts, revenues, both. >> altering the sequester? >> that hasn't happened. we all know if we don't do it, sequester hits and that's painful. there's some incentive. and they're both very -- i like them both. i deal with them both. they're both very capable people. they're very far apart. but maybe, maybe, maybe this crisis has the idea of confrontation and standing in your corner has peaked. let's hope so. let's hope so indeed. chuck schumer, thank you very much. up next, how are the markets reacting to the latest developments here on capitol hill? stay with us. we'll talk to cnbc's steve liesman here on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. has it's ups and downs. seasonal... doesn't begin to describe it. my cashflow can literally change with the weather. anything that gives me some breathing room makes a big difference. the

patty says she hopes to meet matt one day but i don't think matt will be as excited to meet patty. >>> look platinum ber 58 -- at number 58. she knows how to push people around on the team of boys. she said sometimes she heres the -- hears the whispers of the other team but she didn't let it get her down. >> she said when she grows up, she with like to work with athletes, maybe as a team doctor in the nfl. >>> we're celebrating thinking pink. >> and we're gearing up for the big weekend. >>> an anne arundel county woman accused of faking paperwork and treating people. >> joce sterman did the digging. >> reporter: as families go into this centreville doctor's office, it's with a sense of trust that the people are legitimate but the license for one former staffer wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. >> the diplomas, the certifications that she provided were not authentic. >> reporter: instead, court documents showed that the papers created by this woman shawna gunter were fake. she is accused of playing a doctor even though she didn't have a doctor. >> she forged her credentials. >>

patty: ¿helado de chocolate? mi favorito. [ríe] sin:¿cÓmo olvidarlo?el personal. permiso. reinal: claro que sÍ. >>simÓn... gracias por todo. reinaldo: hum... hasta buen vino. >>¿quies? un poquito. >>y quieres que te ayude en eso. >>claro, mamÁ, es mas que justo. le regalaste un carro a kike y otro a amalia, y yo lo necesito. ¡estoy cansado de pasar calor en todos lados, mamÁ! >>pues quÍtate ese suÉter, ¡y vas a ver cÓmo resuelves eso! >>¿y verme mal? !primero muerto que baÑado en sangre! >>a ver, kike y amalia trabajan, josÉ antonio. y tÚ... >>¡y yo estudio medicina! >>pues sÍ, ¡estudias mucho! te esfuerzas, pero todavÍa estÁs ¡muy lejos de ser un famoso rujano plÁstico! y la vida de estudiante es ¡muy sacrificada! >>sÍ, pe no tiene que serlo cuando la madre del estudiante es multimillonaria. >>hum... escucha bien... esta charla no va a ningÚn lado. >>¡ay, mamÁ, r favor! sabes mubien que en esta ciudad, sin auto, ¡es imposible! >>¡te equivocas! hay mucha gente que utiliza ¡el bus! ¿hum? y el transporte pÚblico. y yo no quiero seguir perdiendo mi tiempo

our patti lee live in oakland are telling us how folks are stranded and some with no options of all. >> reporter: folks are finding out the hard way of what can happen to the plan. >> cruz was trying to drop her four children off at day care and get to work at san francisco. >> i have to get outside the house at 9:00. >> the family lives in richland and rarely rides the transit. >> when the bus they been waiting for did not stop because it was already full, cruz almost cried. >> east bay residents say without bart, ac transit 138 lines are their best options but today there were back up. >> i asked my boss if i can take the day off and he said no. >> planning ahead did not pan out. >> i come in and i went to oakland and i tried to get the shuttle out there and they won't leave until 7 p.m. so i came down here and 3 f was full. >> 300 people signed up online to ride the rail today. >> some communities are starting their own ride share program to help neighbors get around for a flat fee. >> i believe that you have work solution and off safe problem. >> reporter: now, one of the benefic

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patty culhane explains. >> hello everybody. >> u.s. president barack obama on the road with the message. shutting down the u.s. government is one thing. the next big thing is the entire world. >> if we screw up, everybody gets screwed up. the whole world will have problems. which is why generally nobody's ever thought to actually threaten not to pay our bills. it would be the height of irresponsibility. >> but that is what the republican controlled house is threatening. to refuse to allow the u.s. to borrow any more money unless the president greez to agrees to af demands. slow down his health care law to name a few. in about two weeks that means the u.s. government won't have enough cash to pay its bills. which means i could decide to default on its dead. the head of the fed: >> could very seriously damage not only the u.s. economy but also the entire global economy. >> if the u.s. defaults its debt some possible outcomes. stock markets panic. the value of the dollar plum the plummets. banks stop lending money. economist irene foster

patti lee, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> his actions have been seen now by thousands, the motivation for doing the dirty work during the government shutdown. >> a computer glitch for covered california. the key piece of evidence that is still not available online to users. >> and a college house party goes out of control. why police say it quickly turned into a campus riot. >>> breaking news, we're keeping an eye on the b.a.r.t. negotiations. there is the podium, the microphone stand where b.a.r. t. unions held a impromptu announcement. they want b.a.r.t. to continue negotiations. we will keep you posted on the latest minute by minute talks as they continue throughout the rest of the this newscast. >>> now to our continuing coverage of the government shutdown now entering its thirds week. a rare sunday session today with senate republicans and democrats continuing to struggle over spending. there were some encouraging signs though from today's conversations but in the end lawmakers couldn't break the stalemate. as steve santani said, a gop overplayed its hand. >> the u.s. senate convened today

. >> the leader is senator patty measurey, give up the social insurance spending? >> there's been a lot of discussion between patty murray and paul ryan about how they want to cut spending, they're being nice to each other, the aggressive campaigning has been taken behind the scenes. long term entitlement cuts for short term spending increases and you've seen harry reid say to us this looks like you're asking you to increase defense spending to lift the sequester. that doesn't sound like a good deal for us. we'll see how much twar actual freedom they have to cut a deal. >> fair to say the best bargain would be the democrats, given michigan mcconnell said he doesn't want to go through another threat of shutdown. they don't have to give that much in order to avoid that cries you again. >> if you are michigan mcconnell, the government could shut down, after this budget deal potentially falls through. he says he thinks this deal will probably fall through. but then a cr battle where the government will shut down because you want to cut social and medicare by insisting

>> patty. >> patty. how you doing? >> great. >> good. >> are you ready to do this? >> absolutely. >> all right. hugger number one. >> not too much. don't touch. i don't have too much time. all right? hugger number two? wow. don't go crazy, man. don't go crazy. all right. which one was better number one or number two? >> you want to do it now? >> number two. >> number two. >> all right. [ applause ] >> congratulations, jimmy. >> thanks dax. >> now let's move to number two. >> what's your name? >> kimberly. >> how you doing? >> i'm good. >> you ready to do this? >> oh yeah. >> hugger number one? >> all right. she's married. hugger nurnl two? all right that's good. number one or number two. >> number two, definitely. >> wow. wow. all right. now let's go to the last one. hi. >> hi rr you ready to do this? >> i am. >> hugger number one? >> all right. all right. hugger number two? all right. that's it. >> i worked on my technique. >> i went under. >> which one was better? number one or number two? >> it's really hard. you both did great. >> did one of the hugger's write y

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the ntsb finished updating us on the investigation we will have a live report in a few minutes. 36 pattiktvu's david stevenson but we begin with ken pritchett. >> reporter: we are outside the caltrans building in oakland where all the negotiations are taking place between b.a.r.t. and the union. we expected such a meeting this afternoon and then we heard they may meet face to face later this afternoon. there has been progress made. an hour ago a spokesperson for the union said before the weekend there were 4, 5 issues sepbrating the two sides -- separating the two sides. >> we can tell you there are only two proposals and we are hopeful and optimist and if b.a.r.t. wants to get it down by 6:00 p.m. we would as well. >> reporter: getting a deal done by 6:00 p.m. seems unlikely but not impossible. b.a.r.t. is hoping reaching a deal by 6:00 p.m. could get the trains rolling tomorrow. over the weekend progress was made through a federal mediator as the union counter offered and the death of two b.a.r.t. workers changed the tone and urgency of the talks. >> extremely heart breaking for

live in walnut creek with the latest, here's patti lee. >> reporter: they told us earlier today that under normal circumstances, a certified trainer must be with the trainee in the cab at all times. this afternoon, ntsb said that wasn't the case. that the trainee was alone in the cab at the time. bart train operators are keeping track of the ntsb's investigation trying to understand the tragedy in walnut creek. video of the cap will help. >> we have begun to look at the video images. >> reporter: ntsb investigators explained who was on board at the time. two trainees, a trainer, and three trouble shooters. one of the trainees was operating the train. >> someone can be an experienced operator but if you're not in practice every day, you're going to miss things. >> reporter: she said even if an operator had experience in the past, there's more to the job than pushing a button. >> it happens every 15 minutes. they let us know who's in our track way, who's around our track way, and we're supposed to keep a lookout for them. >> reporter: they said the trainee was aware of the workers and

i think patty ryan and mcconnell and reid understand it.at nancy pelosi the former speaker understands it and speaker boehner who said we ran a good race and we lost. >> what about your fellow texan ted cruz? >> well, i know leadership doesn't want to go through it. let me say this. it's a free country to express your view and the first amendment. but there's something about good common sense that is isolates voices that are strabed and strident. he has every right. i've met with him. i hope to work with him on issues for texas but he has every right to the speak decidently and to continue that sound of drums. but i tell you, i have every right to join with the majority and stand for the american people and we're going to win this. we're not going to shut the government down. there may be a poison pill. i don't even want to speak what i might be willing to accept. we'll be in a lot of meetings huddled in a lot of meetings. but what i will say to you, it was so vial the experience, the words were so shrill, the comments about the president a

patty murray is the chair of our budget committee. i respect paul ryan.e disagree on politics and certainly on issues like the future of medicare. but when it comes down to it, we've got to be able to put everything on the table. that means republicans have to be willing to put revenue on the table. i can't understand this basic premise that this tax code is sacred, this there aren't loopholes in there that should be closed and the savings be dedicated to reducing the deficit. why is that such a radical idea to most republicans? >> that's what i suspected you were going to say, senator durbin, which is it can't be short-term spending increases for long-term spending cuts revenue. is that a nonstarter? one of the ideas is not raise rates but just that you would close some loopholes, tax reform, and use some of that money to cut the deficit. >> i don't know anybody opposed to closing loopholes. in fact, if we were going to do a revenue-neutral tax rewrite, chairman baucus could do that and do that pretty quickly. the percentage of the wealth of the country,

patty griffin is on this project. >> yes, she is singing "jubilee." we did something with her. we did something with shara worden too in australia. we knew her. ones we weren't too familiar with, but patty is a good singer with robert plant. tavis: absoltely. another good friend. our very good friend robert plant. we believe that right where it is. a very close friend of robert plant. robert plant is about as good as they come. >> yeah, we've got that on here. tavis: it is a beautiful thing to have people that want to work with you. >> it is. all of these people, we didn't even realize that we had so many fans that had been listening to the blind boys all this time. tavis: it is that soul and that spirit. they want some of that. [laughter] they want some of that blind boys of alabama soldier i'm always honored to have you on this program. when you talk to brother clarence, give him i regard and love. >> i shall. tavis: the new project from the blind boys of alabama is called "i'll find a way." jimmy carter, the last original member who still travels with the band everywhere the