soak seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner sugaya oh, no, no, no. >> it's not about rules per say but about the use of the word 10 days is it you were interpreter or interpreted to mean calendar or working days in article 5. >> i interpret those to be calendar days. >> okay. >> commissioner moore. >> i like to say i would have hoped that the rules as their september to us today and if they indeed annoyance the different commissioners comments for the sake of this discussion would have been identified. it's unclear what the basis is for the rules. i've not received any comments from my fellow commissioners that recycle 0 r talk about the procedural issues with the underlying submissions. i've not gotten a single comment or if their rejected by whom. since i've start to talking about the lack of clarity not specific targeted issues for anyone or the department or anyone in the department almost seven years ago i didn't know the drawings were submitted. i've said it over and over again when are we going to get more c

i'm perfectly happy to continue this conversation after public comment to allow members of the public to certainly say their piece. >> supervisor campos. >> thank you. i would suggest that we perhaps proceed to public comment so that we give members of the public the opportunity who have been standing to speak. and i would hope that between now and the time that the public comment is closed that maybe some of the questions that have been raised can be answered. i do agree with supervisor kim and supervisor avalos that it's important to move this forward. i understand that there may be question, but maybe we have an opportunity to clarify some things, but i'd like to give the public an opportunity to proceed to public comment. >> thank you. president chiu. >> thank you. i'm going to be brief because i also agree with supervisor campos. i would like to get to public comment and i don't think any of us expected that this discussion would take so long. but let me say a couple things. first of all, yesterday at land use we had a lengthy discussion about this and as supervisor avalos knows,

any other member of the public would like to comment? seeing none we'll close public comment. and madam clerk if you can call our next item. >> item 14 adjournment. >> i wish everyone a happy holiday season. you are adjourned. >> good morning to the san francisco planning commission regular month to month thursday, december 19, 2013. the commission doesn't allow any disruptions and when speak before the commission if you care to do state your name for the record. i'd like to take roll >> president fong. commissioner wu. commissioner antonini. commissioner borden. commissioner moore. and commissioner sugaya >> commissioners first on your calendars are items proposed for continuance. for 410 townsend street as proposed for continuance january 16, 2014. for the next two cases at the 1433 bush street request for authorization and surveillance are proposed for indefinite. under your regular calendar item 17 for case requests for planning code contemplate is requested to continue this matter until january 16, 2014. i have one speaker card related to 17, however, i'm not sure it's re

>> item 7, public comment. >> is there any public comment? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. >> and item 8. >> adjournment. >> we are adjourned. thank you. >> >> good morning, everyone. ed meeting will come to order. this is the tuesday, december tenth, 2013, meeting of the plans and programs committee of the san francisco county transportation authority, our clerk is miss erika cheng, could you call the roll? >> roll call, commissioner breed? >> here. >> commissioner campos? >> absent. >> kim, absent fp >> mar. >> present. >> yee? >> yee, present. >> we have a quorum. >> thank you, and i would like to thank, jim smith and johnson gramwhack from sfgtv for tell vicing us today. >> item number two, approve the minutes of the november 19, 2013 meeting this is an action item. >> thank you, seeing no comments from colleagues, let's open up this for public comment, is there anyone from the public? seeing none, the public comment is closed could we moved this forward without objection? thank you. >> item three, citizen's advisory committee r

any public comment on the item 23? seeing none, public comment is closed. all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> the ayes have it. >> item 24. approve conditions by the general manager to execute a lease. >> commissioners, >> moved. >> moved and seconded. any comment? >> on this item i certainly recommend approval. this results in a lower rent that went paying at 1155 market. i want to raise a concern about 1550 evans which was acquired a year ago and i understand there has been a lot of interest anatomy discussion but not a lot of motion as to make that property usable for staff and utility purnsz. purposes. i don't know that those two items are linked but i just wanted to suggest greater sense of urgency about determining the use of 1550 evans and moving the staff because we bought that and yet we are still paying rent across the street at bayview plaza. again this 544 lease across the street certainly makes sense for the intended purposes. let's get on market street. thanks. >> okay. so i will call for a moved. it's been moved and second. all in favor say,

>> would this be part of public comment for you. >> seeing no other public comment public comment is closed. before you ask a question i want to ask someone to come up first of all, i want to commend you and the other commissioners to create such a diverse system in terms of neglectly. i want to see this is diverse. i'm curious in regards to immigrant percentage whooid wide just broad strokes it didn't have to be denied in broad strokes what's our immigrant population in san francisco >> our immigrant population in san francisco just made a presentation on this is 36 percent or one in every 3 receipts in the city. regardless of the breakdown the europe wan and ailing and aevenlg >> about 64 percent are from and 16 percent if mexican and 13 and a half percent from the uc and ireland and germany and other parts of europe and 1.6 percent are from african and nigeria and other parts of africa that he and then less than two tenths are from the occurring run. >> what are the russian. >> they fall a - supervisor breed you have a question? >> i'm happy to bring telling up but let me start by

they have the crÈme de la creme a public defender systems.ronk's public defenders has started a national movement to limit caseloads and to try to deal more holistically with all of the issues that defendants might be facing like if they come into the system because they have been stealing and that is related to drug addiction or homelessness or whatever. those new programs are trying to have public defenders offices deal with the source of the problem and deal with the root of the problem and deal more broadly with the people that come through their system. so there is some good news out there. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me.

impression of public defender because their public defender somehow screwed them. >> how are you? >> good. >> sit over here. how are you? >> good. >> it's freezing outside. >> you know why i'm here. i'm trying to get a better understanding of the place where you were arrested. let's kind of go through your information. >> what do you do? >> i'm certified mechanic. >> how long have you been a mechanic? >> about 15 years. >> okay. so once you are released and you go back, you will go back to working on cars? >> i will try. since i have been here, i have lost my house and they have broken in and stolen all of my tools. i have to start from scratch. my landlord found out. i have a conviction notice. >> where is all your stuff? >> my mom said she went to get it the other day but the door was locked. i had court and i told 3 guards here that i had to go to court. nobody took me to court. that caused me to be evicted from my house. she called the court to let them know i was incarcerated. he's holding my stuff. >> thank you for letting me know that. >> you were convicted of cocaine posse

there is no publicity for the public about the fate of the magazines in the library at all. there have been month press releases, there have about no flyers. there is nothing at the website about it and nothing about the magazines and no approval by the library commission. we ask you to hold a hearing on the policy practices and particularly the priorities of the library and about this magazine section destruction. thank you very much. president david chiu: thank you very much. next speaker. speaker: good afternoon president chiu, board of supervisors. i'm seymour. i came to make an impact. i'm here to support again the band. i don't know if you realize how many people in the world, in this city in the world that would be affected by the box. cecil williams has been arrested. he was a victim of the box. mohammed ally is a victim of the box. jesus christ was a victim of the box. last year we had a marathon in the city council chambers by the higher officials in the sheriff's departments. you know how many we had here supporting police official? because it was about band the b

i would like to share with the public defenders. ken is here and as well as dave from the public defenders office. [ applause ] >> i'm sorry. ron from the

go on to public comment. and >> regarding this -- i've been on the cac since 97 i worked with the executive director, tilly cheng on one five year and i think you should look and see what's been done in the past under the five year and prioritize the projects that have not been done before you move forward with anything else. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next speaker please. >> good morning my name is kate hodge. i want to commend the staff for the tremendously hard work with this plan. based on a five year plan the strategy developed by the mta an excellent strategy but it's been turned into a 25 year plan this is a strange development and i wonder how our city is going to live up to its promise. right now what you are asking for -- so we're asking that the mta and other agencies involved with this plan development articulate how this is going to be able to reach the promised goal by 2020 thank you. >> thank you very much. any other member of the public would like to comment? okay. we'll close publi

brown >> any further public comment public comment is closed please call the next line item. >> line item 4 reports and announcements chefs report and review of recent activities as good evening, commissioners and public. i comment on a couple of public comments we spoke to the suspect on the bicycle which when encountered one of the officers who was bit. for a full version. so far as ms. brown goes as also we're lacking the witness or witnesses that could come forward and anybody who has information we'd appreciate it we have the list that ms. brown has given me to search for the suspects one it deceased and others are in custody and others occult of custody. we'd love to give you the closure by the but we need the testimony. update open crime in san francisco. it's been reported that crime is up it's up approximately 14 percent on a largely driven property crime. property crime is up 20 percent since the inception of the a b-109 and we're grasping left leg with the consequence of not having the repeat offenders that aren't able to accept an alternative strategy of incarnation the s

there's nothing from the developer pushing promise or the public available to the public. and see if you're going to say the 7 of you are the public step into the shows you of the public once again and have a hearing that was promised about this. you haven't had a hearing at all in a long time and i'm tired of being here in a ridiculous format. thank you >> good afternoon commissioners. as a point of procure i point in a comment card inform 16 a but i can speak to the doctor >> that's correct if you wish to speak about the environmental impact and item 167 abc will be called up later. >> i'm mike murphy i'm a resident of the outer suspect. i'll tack my 3 minutes now i have to pick up my son from school. i want to thank the commission for the eir which is subsequential the one that's before you today. it's a project who's time is well past due. i represent an organization who's primary concern is for the watersheds. this should have the watersheds into support of future. it generates a greater sense of stewardship and unfortunately, i'm the one here to see i don't want to d

public, public comment is closed. >> future agenda items. item number 7. >> is there anyone that would like to speak on any possible items? >> any member of the public? >> okay mr. brooks. >> eric brooks again. san francisco green party and also you might remember a few years ago 2006 and 7 my organization and we are still part of a coalition when when google and earth link -- we're seeing tomorrow today or tomorrow the announcement that the fact that we kept them for actually charging us for wifi is leading to these corporations just giving it to us so that's something that's positive. and i'm hoping that in 2014 we finally do get scheduled on this item of building a public broadband internet network just like building the roads and highways we need in san francisco i'm hoping in 2014 we'll finally get action items on that and doing studies on how we can roll that out. >> great thank you very much. anything else? so not seeing any member of the public commenting this item is closed and i believe that leads us to our next item which is item

any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. can we have a motion to forward this to the full board with recommendation >> so moved. this motion passes congratulations. item 4 >> item 4 hearing to appoint one member term ending to the community stabilization committee there's one seat and one applicant. >> okay april from supervisor jane kim's office is here. >> good afternoon, supervisors - oh, should i - >> go ahead. >> i'm here on behalf of supervisor kim's office for the stabilization plan. john he will so apple speak for himself he's providing direct services to our search and seizures with the affordable housing development that's surrounding did moscone center and heel amply serve on little committee to assist in the question of stablz the south of market community during this time of development. thank you >> sorry about this john you would be the first speaker for this particular item. >> good afternoon, members. i'm john. thank you very much for considering my plantation. i joined the group in 1978 and 35 years of work

is there any additional public comment? okay, public comment is closed. commissioner borden. >> i want to say two things, we spend a lot of time to clarify the rules so it's clear, that's what we spent time today really trying to do. and in addition this hearing is not an action hearing. it's a hearing for members of the public to weigh in. and there are will be future opportunities. but i think that people have a misconception of how far in advance we the commissioners. we have an advanced calendar with a case number and a specific date potentially on it. but we get our packets for the following week thursday night or friday. so we have just as much notice, unless there is a full eir, we have as much notice on these cases. and you probably know before we do, because of the postings on the building and the community meetings that happen. a lot of time the public contacts that we ourselves are not familiar with. and that's a challenge that people are frustrated that we have not seen anything on the project to have an engaging conversation with members of t

public spaces. we are in the plaza which was the very first of the program that began about 4 years ago where we decided to really start creating new plazas and having new public spaces. this plaza has been in incredibly successful in the castro and having free wifi here in this public space and other public spaces and in our parts is an incredible part to make sure that people can use these public spaces and that people can congregate here and get work done here and tried -- read the paper and whatever else they want to do. i'm glad that we are celebrating here in the plaza. next year we are going to be wiring the sidewalks on castro street which is part of the strategy to keep improving these places. thank you very much and congratulations on the work. [ applause ] >> thank you, scott. and now i would like to invite the technology visionary that helped us accomplish this corridor. selena lowe from ruckus. please join me. [ applause ] >> good morning. ruckus has been selected by the city of san fra

public comment is now closed. next item, please. >> item 6. >> any public comment on item 6? seeing none public comment is closed. next item please. >> item 7. report of the general manager. >> good afternoon, next on the agenda what i want to bring back is the bayview arts grants update. the puc made a commitment to bayview arts in san francisco. the city requires by city ordinance to contribute 2 percent cost for the arts commission in the city. in 2011 we actually passed a community benefit policy that alliance the art contributions with our goal which are to be a good neighbor and invest in arts and cultural neighborhoods that are impacted by our services and operations. before it would go to the arts commission and we didn't have about where these funds would be directed. we partner closely with the arts commission to administer art funding similar to how we partner to other agencies like the department of the environment, san francisco unified school district and the work force development. this year with our support, the community art and educational program of the art

public transit is plentiful. we have conquered the steps, we have watched the dogs, and we have enjoyed a beautiful view. this is a place to take someone special on a romantic stroll and enjoyed a beautiful look out. welcome to corona heights located in the heart of this district. it offers a view of the downtown skyline, the bay bridge, and the east bay. it is one of the best kept secrets in the city. it is hardly ever crowded. on any given day, you will run into a few locals. , bought a 37 bus to get there without any parking worries. for legged friends can run freely. there is also a patch of grass for the small box. >> it is a great place. it is a wonderful place to have these kinds of parks. that dog owners appreciate it. >> take time to notice of the wildfires that are on the grassland and keep your head out on the lookout for hawks and other bird life. be sure to take your camera and be prepared to take a view of the city will not forget. it has a beautiful red rock formations. you could watch the sunrise

is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. we have commissioner matters. >> i have one on commissioner matters, in our january meeting and knocking off things that should come off the list or should have a hearing. i'm a big to do list person. if we can eliminate some of our to do list items, it would be appreciated. another matter that i would like to see come to an informational hearing in january or february is the discussion that the city now faces which is a jobs housing crisis. i think the conversation should be a jobs housing park linkage discussion. as we add more residents to the city, what is the impact of adding new residents to our park system, to open space opportunities. i'm inspired by the mayor's discussion that housing opportunities might be found on parkland which took me a little bit by surprise. i don't know if the general manager that had same reaction i did, but if we can have that discussion maybe with consultation with the planning department in january or february. it would be very much appreciated. an

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and we publicize that to the public. on agendas where we anticipate our meeting to be long, we will take a lunch break at approximately 2:30 p.m.. and that way people can better plan their time. so we don't waste their time and keep our time earlier. >> commissioner moore. >> this is a tough discussion, obviously there is the public and there is us. and we are under tight conditions to spend a lot of attention to a lot of different things. i prefer the early start, i think it's a good part of the day. i understand that sometimes the lunch break comes at a difficult time. but i personally are not interested in pushing back into the later part of the day. >> commissioner sugaya. >> i don't think there is a difference from 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock when we are taking 40 minutes in the back to eat lunch. that to me is a disservice to the public. if i was a member of the public and came at 12 o'clock, and i am last on the agenda and we take 40 minutes of our own time to eat lunch. i would not be satisfied sitting out there for

after public comments. is there any public comments on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. could i have the motion? okay. no objection, so this item will be continued to call on the chair. thank you very much. madam clerk, item number 4. >> item number 4, hearing to consider appointing one member term ending march 19, 2016 to the child care planning and advisory council, there is one seat and one applicant. >> okay. ms. mehta? >> hello, supervisors, thank you for your consideration for my appointment to district 6 representatives to supervisor jane kim as a child care provider, my name is deepa mehta, i work for family youth and child care center as an after school coordinator, most of my experience has been in the after school field and the ece field which is early childhood education, i've been working in the tenderloin community for three years now, in addition to working at glide, i'm in the tenderloin safe pathway commission, safe passage provides safe blocks to 400 youth daily for the after school hours. i think i would be a good

public, public comment is closed. >> future agenda items. item number 7. >> is there anyone that would like to speak on any possible items? >> any member of the public? >> okay mr. brooks. >> eric brooks again. san francisco green party and also you might remember a few years ago 2006 and 7 my organization and we are still part of

>> item 7, public comment. >> is there any public comment? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. >> and item 8. >> adjournment. >> we are adjourned. thank you.