of san quentin's death row. tonight part two in >> gary :and the warriors will be back in action on friday will have a few mats as well to talk about the highlights and a new recruit later in the broadcast >> brittney : it shows a quiet and dry night but i am showing some storms coming up in the forecast at the brick--after the break >> pam :most inmates spend decades on death row. and life on that dangerous cell block. can obviously take its toll. kron 4's alecia reid went behind the prison walls at san quentin. she was granted access the media has not been given for years. she joins us now with a closer look at the conditions inside one of the world's notorious prisons. >>:lisai thought i had prepared myself for going to san quentin's death row but i was wrong. there's nothing that can prepare you for going into a maximum security prison, housing some of the worst offenders in the state. securityis tight, and it has to be. the guards, took every precaution to keep me safe. >> alecia :life on death row looks li

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from cedar falls, jim brown and from waterloo, quentin hart. jim brown was on the board of education, there for six years if i remember correctly. big victory over david halterman. mayor brown serve six years on the board of educatiti. he's a siness development manager. his campaign promise was to bring a different leadership style to city hall. we'll ask if he's done that. quentin hart we've had on the program before, earn his batch love's degree from uni, first elected in 2008, representing waterloo's fourth wart on the city council and then serve as mayor pro te and gave up the council positions to run for mayor. he and his wife have three you had a birthday since the last time i talked to youou >> mayor hart: no, i haven't. i'm looking forward to june 6th though. >> ron: we'll put that on the calendar. what a surprise for you, mayor brown. you promised a new leadership style. you're just getting started.. i know yoyo did one thing together already, rang the bell for the salvation army. that was a great event. any surprises so far? >> mayor

quentin's right on -- there is no video village on a quentin tarantino movie. he's there with you and i was reading with him not a casting director. >> rose: you told the guardian a lot of times this town or business only looks at your last three project quentin is the exception and looks at your whole body of works and asked me about moments as though it was yet and he's that thorough and when he looks at you he doesn't see just what you do the last two years or doesn't think you were that person in whatever, 1985. >> it's true. >> rose: he knew what you could do. >> he knew more what i could do than i knew and more about my career than i knew. >> rose: how did you therefore prepare not to let him down and let your fell yo -- fellow actors down to make sure you brought to bear everything you had. >> he had two rules no cell phones and know your lines backwards and forwards. excellent rule. you start talking to everyone around you and for lack of a better word you become a family and the focus is on what you're making. he wanted us to find daisy organically and

at california's san quentin state prison.th row is a quiet place where inmates are much more concerned with filing appeals than causing trouble. that's not the case here. [ alarm sounding ] >> me, myself, i consider every inmate in here a potential threat. >> our producer met two officers assigned to keep watch in the adjustment center, where san quentin's most violent death row inmates are housed. the daily grind here is bleak for both inmates and staff. >> mentality of most inmates in this unit is, i'm on death row, there's nothing you can do to me. if i assault you today, there's nothing you can do to me tomorrow. you can only kill me once. >> assaults are so common here, any contact with inmates even serving meals requires officers to suit up in full riot gear. >> but that doesn't stop them from gassing. which is where they throw a variety of substances, can be anything, urine, feces. >> any time you open the food port, there's an opening for that inmate to assault you. >> death row at san quentin is a really scary place

s >> reporter:san quentin is home to the largest death row in the country.there hasn't been an execution since 2006. >> reporter:so right now, there are hundreds of inmates who will likely spend the rest of their lives awaiting execution. >> reporter:now, the prison is trying to find out where to put them all. >>--we'll still be accepting every new condemned inmate to san quentin >>--doing time isn't easy. >> reporter:some inmates in their 80s have been on death row for decades. for those in their 20s. their prison bid is just starting. >> reporter:most inmates spend an average of 15 years on this notorious cell block. >> -it's hard i'm not gon tell you no. >> reporter:some of the condemned. are holding out hope a retrial or appeal will set them free. >> reporter:one inmate waiting for a new lawyer is michael santos walters. >>sot- i don't have an attorney yet. it takes 5-6 years to get an attorney. >> reporter:he was serving life, for murder >>- a gang member that raped my niece. >> reporter:now, he's condemned to death for brutally killing his cellmate. >>

sit on san quentin's death row. and the department of corrections is running out of room to house these inmates. continuing her special series, kron 4's alecia reid explains what is being done to keep these criminals behind bars. >>: >> alecia :doing time isn't easy as some inmates who are in their eighties have been on death row for decades most inmates spend an average of 15 years on this cell block some of the condemned are helping out for retrials one waiting for a lawyer is this man cool it has taken five or six years to get an attorney now he is condemned to death he is just one of high and makes--one of hundreds of inmates the prison is running out of room but there is some relief in the psych ward there are still and not enough beds three-point $2 million of taxpayer money he small dent in an overcrowding problem of course was to that conversion more staff would need to be hired and trained in construction is expected to be completed sometime this month >> pam :tense moments for employees of a southern calif

the tunes cited the walls of california's san quentin prison. antarctic condemned men cn death row we need to be ready for whatever weather may come our way. my name's scott strenfel and i'm a meteorologist at pg&e. we make sure that our crews as well as our customers are prepared to how weather may impact their energy. so every single day we're monitoring the weather, and when storm events arise our forecast get crews out ahead of the storm to minimize any outages. during storm season we want our customers to be ready and stay safe. learn how you can be prepared at pge.com/beprepared. together, we're building a better california. >> pam:life on that dangerous cell block can obviously take its toll. kron 4's alecia reid went behind the prison walls at san quentin. she was granted access the media hasn't been granted for years. look at the conditions inside one of the world's notorious prisons. >> reporter:i thought i had prepared myself for going to san quentin's death row but i was wrong. there's nothing that can prepare you for going into a ma

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as part of our investigation, we were granted rare access by san quentin to talk to dozens of inmatesrently serving time under sentencing enhance ams. >> i was given 20 to life for that. inmates like rasan thomas who is serving 18 years for shooting and killing two people in a drug deal gone wrong. >> i can't say i deserve less than the time they gave me and my thing is for economics because this law makes sense. without the sentencing enhancement he'd be eligible for parole soon. it makes it almost impossible to make a parole board and you have to have live past life expectancy. >> or demon lewis and he got 15 years for axe temped murder after he shot a man in the leg and he got 94 years or six times the original sentence for six separate gun enhancements tied to the same time and the same gun. >> the time was more than you would get for the crime itself. >> here we are in california where we are stuck in the mud. >> the professor with the university of mcgeorge school of law has studied this for years and it all adds up to injustice. >> we all suffer with this elaborate criminal jus

since 1893, 422 convicts have been executed on san quentin's death row by hanging or lynching. clarence ray allen was convicted. in 2005, stanley williams, a founding member of the crypt, was also put to death. amid the debate over california's death penalty. executions are now on hold due to lawsuits claiming lethal injection is a form of cruel and unusual punishment. most of these inmates hope capital punishment should be abolished once and for all. >> you kill them for a crime they may have committed. what makes you different than a murderer on the streets. >> reporter: there are three rooms surrounding the room, one for the victim's family, one for the inmate's family, and this room for the press. >> most spend about 15 years on death row. many filing appeals to try and prove their innocence. there's no timetable when executions will resume. >> we have been looking at life on death row all week long. you can watch the entire series at kron4.com. >>> tonight, democratic presidential candidates bernie sanders and hillary clinton are voting on the eve of the nevada caucus. hil

>> the idea that quentin tarantino would call you up say, hi, come audition for me. >> it isn't seem like reality that was going to happen. then it happened. and now the oscar nomination is finally allowing herself to look ahead. >> i actually would love to make a movie that my son could go see and my nieces could go see. >> not going to see "hateful eight." >> not going t@ see "anomalise either. >> none of your movies? >> i mean, i'm trying think. can you think of one? >> no. >> so, i would like that experience. i do think that this just makes a lot more things possible for me. >> and t tt's pretty cool. >> yeah. amazing. >> osgood: next, on the trail to mammoth cave national park.eans i am a lot of things. i am his sunshine. i am his advocate. to his current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works differently. when added to another alzheimer's treatment, it may improve overall function and cognition. and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. vo: namenda xr doesn't change how the disease progresses. it shouldn't be taken by anyone allergic to memantine, or w

at san quentin, we met one young inmate who compared it to a once popular tv show. >> it's just likeverybody know your name. [ bleep ]. you see all your friends, you know what i mean? you feel like, well, i'm cool here. these are my boys, you know, what i mean? this is my home. >> but most inmates hold a much different opinion. >> prisons are hate factories. they can't produce anything but hate. all you have is hate, loneliness, greed, and just misery. >> when we met gerald mccullough at the river bend national security institution near nashville, tennessee, he was halfway through a 12-year sentence on a sexual offense charge. >> there's no way out. there's just nothing to do. this is just a total waste of someone's life. >> despite his pessimism, mccullough had found a productive outlet to express his pain. ♪ they say it's raining in denver ♪ ♪ that it's really kind of cold but i'm just pulling time in nashville ♪ ♪ how am i supposed to know ♪ >> in a prison in nashville the home of country music, we decided it would be great if we could find a country singer, and so we kind of made

>> at 54, jennifer jason leigh never dreamed she'd be in cahoots with quentin tarantino and she never, ever thought she would hear these words. >> the performance by actress in supporting role the nominees are -- jennifer jason leigh "the hateful eight." >> if that weren't enough. leigs the title character of ross cover familiar nature film "anomalisa." >> most people don't like to look at me too much because, you know -- >> i think you're lovely. >> it took us three days to voice it took them two years to actually make the movie. seconds a day. >> two seconds a day? >> if they had a good day. >> that's wild. >> incredible. months. >> a six-month sex scene? >> yes. >> six month puppet sex scene. think abut what oscar night will be like? >> i didn't allow myself think what this interview would be like. >> an oscar nod is a big moment for any actor especially oneho once thought her acting career was all but over. in the '80s and '90s jennifer jason leigh was a fixture on the big screen. >> you got to be kidding. >> she was a total nut case at bridgette fonda's creepy copycat roommate in

tracy smith now on the difference 34 years can make. >> in quentin tarantino's big screen western epic "the hateful eight" there are plenty of familiar faces. >> no one said the job is supposed to be easy. >> and one you might not have seen for awhile. jennifer jason leigh is a prisoner on her way to be hanged and you can tell that it hasn't >> the way you look in that movie, how would you describe it? >> she's had a rough go. she has a black eye. her face is scratched up and bruised. and i wren the very first day of shooting just taking a picture and sending it to my mom saying, this is as good as it's going get. >> much of the movie she's chained to kurt russell a bounty hunter. usually to her face. >> a man who took a high did i in a low well. >> it really is a fun job. great. >> you kind of think that you'd be a little sick of kurt russell >> never. >> look at your face. >> i wish i was still handcuffed to him to be quite honest. just the best guy. >> one of them fella is not what he says he is. >> with this one. >> at 54, jennifer jason leigh never dreamed she'd be in cahoots with

. >> something crazy such as idolizing director quentin tarantino and then finding inglorious bastards. >> their nickname will be the little man. >> nothing will than exciting to have your heroes frame you in the view finder just thinking about it. >> my heart is beating. it was really the biggest honor i've had. >> yes, sir! >> but novak says performing stand-up comedy is still the most formative creative experience of his life. >> if i could have dinner with one person alive or dead i think i would choose alive. >> stand subpoena how he was discovered for "the office" where he still tests out all those ideas in those notebooks. >> i feel like there's a voice in my head always telling me every idea is brilliant and another telling me every idea is the worst. they argue in my head until until i salute to an audience. do i wait to figure this out, is this the best or the worst idea. they tell me. >> next, harper lee. and if you have afib - an irregular heartbeat that may put you at five times greater risk of stroke - they can pool together in the heart, forming a clot that can break fre

. >> pam:death row at san quentin has changed a lot over the years. security is much tighter and it has to be. kron 4's alecia reid takes us behind the prison walls, for a closer look at what it takes to maintain order. for those facing life on death row. >> reporter:pam, it's been more than 80 years since san quentin's death row was constructed. back then.there were just 68 cells total. a lot has changed since >> reporter:san quentin in the 1930's, is a flashback to a different era. gone are the priviledges of walking into the hallway. also gone, certain freedoms most people take for granted, like a simple conversationface to face. >>nats sot - it's kinda crazy in here. >> reporter:all communication now. is either through intertwined gates, or thick glass. >> reporter:tables, chairs and cupboards also gone. they can be used as weapons. >> it can be very difficult population to manage at times. >> the conditions in here are horrible. >> sometimes it is freezing in here and they will not give us any heat. >> reporter:watchmen take no chances. they keep

san quentin in 18930 is a flashback to a different era. of walking into the hallway. also certain freedoms most people take for granted, like a simple conversation face to face. all communication now is either through intertwined gates, or thick glass. tables, chairs, and cub boards also gone. they can be used as weapons. >> they can be a very difficult population if not managed. >> reporter: watch minute take no chances. they keep a certain distance from inmates so they don't let their guard down. things were quiet smooth during my visit. guards stuck to the script, understanding just how dangerous these inmates really are. >> we have a handle on it. this is a population we've cared for for a long time. >> reporter: ten guards have been killed here. the last one back in 1985, more than 30 years ago. the isolation and stricter guidelines have force 0ed inmates to adapt. most communicate through the walls. the guards feel relations have improved with these measures in place. inmates disagree. >> it is more difficult now that people are comi

death row at san quentin has changed a lot over the years. security is much tighter and officials say, it has to be. kron 4's alecia reid takes us behind the prison walls, for a closer look at what it takes to maintain order. for those facing life on death row. >> reporter:pam, it's been more than 80 years since san quentin's death row was constructed. back then.there were just 68 cells total. a lot has changed since san quentin in the 1930's, is a flashback to a different era. gone are the priviledges of walking into the hallway. also gone, certain freedoms most people take for granted, like a simple conversationface to face. nats sot - it's kinda crazy in here. all communication now. is either through intertwined gates, or thick glass. nats tables, chairs and cupboards also gone. they can be used as weapons. sot - they can be a very at times horrible watchmen take no chances. they keep a certain, and necessary distance from inmates, so they don't let their guard down. sot - i'll ask them how their the yard, how the weather is and that's abo

. - well, i just got a letter from my uncle quentin allen, the famous prison warden. - prison warden? well, how did he get a job like that? - well, he had to start at the bottom and work his way up. - oh, started as an ordinary guard, huh? - no, as ordinary prisoner. - how did he get to be a warden? - well, why not? he had the best qualifications. he served three terms. - oh, that's a warden with a lot of experience. - oh, yes, uncle quentin lives in the prison. and some of the convicts take care of him. they make very good servants, except for certain little things. - such as what? - well, now, the man who cooks for him - yeah. - is fine with everything except roast turkey. - he can't handle that. - no. - no. - because of his past, you see-- - his past? - mm-hmm, he'd been a pickpocket. and after he roasts the turkey, from force of habit, he can't help stealing the stuffings out of it. - out of the turkey? well, i'd fire a fellow like that. - oh, he did for a while. but then the next cook was even worse. - what did he do? - well, he was a safe-cracker. - sounds like a nice little gro

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san quentin prison. we take you inside a public release these inside the san quentin prison later the warriorsand later. the warriors have been rolling this season. tonight we have a look at their impressive record by the numbers. (scal): good day, m'lady! i am sir-can-a-lot, here to save you from another breakfast bore. wake up those eggs with glorious spam! see what spam can! do... at spam.com san quentin's death row. houses some of the most notorious and it is rare that the media is allowed inside. with open access. to talk to any of the prisoners . after years of requesting entry, our kron 4's alecia reid had the opportunity to go in and talk to both inmates and staff. she joins us now with a look at death row. alecia. pam, most people have probably never been to prison, let alone the cell block that houses death row inmates. these menall convicted of brutal crimes, are simply waiting to be executed. prison walls to see what life is like stranded on death row. san quetin state prison.neslted on the s

. >> at california's san quentin state prison, we saw how sophisticated some inmate weaponry can be. this homemade pistol is known as a zip gun. >> this portion is filled with groundup matchups. >> the two holes here, the inmate inserts a wick, inmate takeses a plunger, pokes shrapnel in the open end. pieces of metal, groundup zippers. when the target walks by the cell, may it be an officer, inmate, the inmate lights this. when it goes down, strikes the match heads, basically acts like a firecracker and shoots the shrapnel out. >> the majority of inmate-manufactured weapons or shanks, designed for slashing and stabbing. the ease and with lethal weapons are made is shocking. this san quentin inmate who goes by the name speedy, agreed to show correctional staff and "lockup" cameras just how simple it can be. he starts by using a roll of toilet paper as a crude forge to melt plastic coffee cup lids. >> i'm making a weapon right now. melting this plastic down into a shape. what i'm dying i'm trying to get a little wad of it to where i have something to work with, you know what i mean? ri

worst convicted offenders are on san quentin's death row.and the department of corrections is running out of room to house them. continuing her special series, kron 4's alecia reid explains what's being done to keep them behind bars. >>natsot - sot - we'll still be accepting every new condemned inmate to san quentin >> reporter:doing time.isn't easy. >> reporter:some inmates in their 80s have been on death row for decades. for those in their 20s. their prison bid is just starting. >> reporter:most inmates spend an average of 15 years on this notorious cell block. >>-it's hard i'm not gon tell you no. >> reporter:some of the condemned. are holding out hope a retrial or appeal will set them free. >> reporter:one inmate waiting for a new lawyer is michael santos walters. >>- i don't have an attorney yet. it takes 5-6 years to get an attorney. >> reporter:he was serving life, for murder >> - a gang member that raped my niece. >> reporter:now, he's condemned to death for brutally killing his cellmate. >>-while in corcoran i killed my celly that w

you escorting him to san quentin for the execution? no. ausa brickle. pony finally decide to rat? it's funny how death will make a man want to clear his conscience. doesn't sound like pony. pony fues has never cooperated until now. yeah, well, how do you know he is cooperating? how do you know he's not? this guy was a hit man for all the mobs, he's got hard-core information on all of them. yeah, or he's just playing us. i mean, the guy's got six days to live, right? exactly. nothing to lose. he might as well come clean. yeah, well, that's what we might do, but i'm saying a guy like this wants something, and i'm not cutting some hired gun any slack. this way. where's he at? shu prisoners are not allowed human contact. you'll interview him like this. brkle: can he hear us? yeah, i can hear you. what, but he can't see us? no. hardly seems fair, right? yeah, go figure. mr. fues, i'm ausa brickle withthe department of justice. with me is special agent don eppes of the fbi. i understand you're interested in cooperating with us on several unsolved murders. check it out, man, i ain't no r

and the staff here call me birdman of san quentin. >> the first day i got here at san quentin, the birds seemed to flock to me for some reason. and i don't know they probably think i am the bird man of alcatraz. maybe they're mistaken because he had a shaved head, too. >> miller was serving an eight year sentence for burglary when he proudly showed us his cell. a virtual shrine to his winged friends. >> ever since i have been here the birds come up to me like they know me. you know i got them landing on my shoulders and my hands. and you know different kinds of birds. not just pigeons. but i got, you know different kind of black birds. finch and the red wing landing on me. i think -- the birds is a good way of -- of releasing a lot of tension and anger. before i got arrested my girlfriend used to chase the birds away. she didn't want me around them. and so -- now i'm in here. i have a chance to mingle with and you know different kinds of birds. not just pigeons. but i got, you know different kind of black birds. finch and the red wing landing on me. i think -- the birds is a good i can't

. >> pam:san quentin is home to the largest death row population in california. all executions of men.and women take place there. however, the execution chamber hasn't been used since 2006. kron 4's alecia reid explains why in the final part of our weeklong serieslife on death row. capital punishment has taken place at this prison since it opened in 1852. the execution chamber was recently renovated, but it hasn't been used for a decade now. since 1893, 422 convicts have been executed on san quentin's death row either by hanging, the gas chamber, or lethal injection. natsot - tossing people away like garbage the last death was carried out 10 years ago. clarence ray allen was executed after spending 23 years on death row. natsot - i don't think there in 2005, stanley "tookie" williams a founding member of the crips was also put to death. then-governor arnold schwarzenegger rejected clemency for williams, and a stay of execution.amid the debate over california's death penalty. nats executions are now on hold due to lawsuits claiming lethal injection is a form of cr

san quentin's death row. houses inmates in the country. allowed inside. with open after years of requesting entry, opportunity to go in and talk to she joins us now with a look at what happens behind the walls of >> reporter:pam, most people have probably never been to prison, let alone the cell block that houses death row inmates. these menall convicted of brutal crimes, are simply waiting to be executed. i was offered a unique opportunity to go behind the prison walls to see what life is like stranded on death row. san quetin state prison.neslted on the shores of san francisco bay in marin county. some of califrornia's most dangerous criminals call this place home. natsot over 7-hundred of them.sit on death row. sot - i confessed, i plead guilty. ive said from the onset some notorious california killers are locked up here. the night stalker - richard ramirez - a serial killer, rapist and burglar he died of cancer in 2013. wesley shermantine - one of the speed freak killers richard allen davis - who kidnapped and killed 12 year old polly klaas. *he is th

rare that the media as a lot inside with open access to talk to any of the prisoners >>reporter: san quentin state prison and nestle on the shore of san francisco bay in marin accounting some of california's most dangerous criminals call this place home over 700 of them sit on death row some notorious california killers are locked up here the night stalker richard ramirez the serial killer weapons and bird or died of cancer in 2013 he brutally murdered and dismembered his wife lacy and the unborn son, he dumped it remains an san francisco bank is a story that brought the nation he was convicted and sentenced to die by lethal injection more than a decade later scott peterson is just another in may his one and a centers screen hiding behind have been shaved as our cameras rolling sitting in his tiny cell douglas a. kent and the sunset strip keller and his girlfriend's carol bundy or convicted of a series of gruesome murders talk and prostitutes and lost and was back in the early '80s he says he did not do it with barely road between the bed and wall there is a limited amount of space to move a

we met christopher carrillo inside a heavily graded cell at san quentin. >> you give respect, you getof people say these guys don't treat us right. at times they don't, but it's hard when you've got a lot of people in here. can't be happy too much in prison. it's not disney land. >> but another inmate at another california prison had a harsher view the cos. >> i hate cops. they're diabolical. they're petty. they present to the public that they're law and order, this and that but in here they'll stab you in the back. they write false write-ups. they got a hidden agenda. they want to keep us locked up in here so they make money. you know, this is a prison industrial complex. it's all about money. >> there is one place, however, where trust is put to the ultimate test. it's the prison kitchen. >> everything back here could be made into a potential weapon. those sheet pans are very thin and they're sharp on the edges. it only takes one of these guys to pick one of those up and they could almost cut my head off. >> we met officer epperson at the kern valley state prison in california. arme

. >> quentin's name. >> is it a coincidence? >> signs were popping up the eastbound strangler. working off a collection of strange drawings retired homicide detective and i decided to check out one of the few things that seem to make any logical sense, the name crazy horse in the phrase too many rules accompanied by some stick figure symbol. we went to the crazy horse cabaret just one town over. i can player -- compared with the skin of the drawings i have on my phone. a view of atlantic city, look across the marsh, very similar where for women working as prostitutes were found strangled murdered command left in a ditch. he had drawn sexually drawings with similarities. >> regardless of his involvement or noninvolvement, this does not tell us. >> no. in fact, it would suggest he did not because of the symbol was after 2010. >> we spoke with greg daily the dj. one of the few employees and we immediately show them. >> is this man looks familiar? >> no. >> no. >> we asked if he had ever seen anyone drawing pictures of the dancers at the club to some of the pictures contain drawing

in 2013 we partnered with some men inside of san quentin interested in hike specific thai or there's was a san quentin news they wanted to do something audio your news department made a connection and started partnership with prisoners that wanted to do stories inside the prison and bring them to a journalist lyric sound and give them we meet every month producers that go out and we're out interest to do training and development with the folks i've liked the project i always liked i think i have you know have a curiosity what is lifelike for people in what seems a foundational situation but new december we got invited a group if k l w got niefld to an event by a pod cast for folks that were to k l a w and did a live story at the chapel okay stories i'm so glad we're here drawing that out but kind of realized how powerful these prisoners are how important they are echt there's one not just like we're doing them a favor no their stories are important i so and came away learn a lot and having a sense of those are members of our community and for people that have connections for people i