you see these are all the republicans. there were 20 of them that voted against kevin mccarthy yesterday. and we have just been tracking. you have see as they have gone through the roll call, all of them have simply switched their vote to donalds. and none of them have switched their vote to kevin mccarthy. 19 to 20, chip roy just voted momentarily ago, donalds for him. so it certainly looks like they are going to go 20 for 20, the republicans rebellion is going to go 20 for 20 in getting the folks who voted against mccarthy on the third ballot to keep voting against him. the other two things we have seen is there are still a number of names to be called. no one who voted for mccarthy on the third ballot has peeled off and voted for donalds so far. so this addition of the new name putting byron donalds out there, it hasn't caused any additional defections. and democrats continue to be completely united all present, all voting, all backing hakeem jeffries for their speaker. there's still four dozen votes left here to be cas

he didn't even have a republican primary. they cleared the field for him, now they are running away from him here why did you cleard for george santos? why did you vacuum not just in 2022 but they backed him in 2020 as well against tom swazi. >> we talk about the responsibility of the government to clean up the house. you and have democratic leader. you could offer privileged resolution which would not even have to -- to refer him, expel him, reprimand, expelling any of those things. why would not democrats if you feel so strongly about mr. santa's not try to take action for the integrity of the house? >> i believe that two members of the new york city congressional delegation, ritchie torres and dan goldman, have acted in this regard. i was well aware of the decision to do so, but any matters before the ethics committee are before the ethics committee, and should be resolved by members of the ethics committee. i made my appointments to the ethics committee. they take seriously their responsibility to be judicious, to be fair

too many republicans support it. the so-called tax plan would devastate working families and cut taxes for the wealthiest 1% of americans. it's so extreme and so out of touch so unconscionable that you wonder who is sitting in some dungeon some laboratory cooking up these extreme ideas to try to jam them down the throats of the american people? but that is what is happening and it's part of the house republican agenda which is why we are speaking out against them and making it clear the stakes are high to the american people and we are going to work to fight and defeat it and expose it and make it clear it's part of an overall extreme agenda to undermine working families and the middle class in america in order to elevate the wealthy the well-off and the well-connected is part of some scheme and desire to subsidize the lifestyles of the rich and shameless. if someone told you that this was a real plan you would say no, and never would be. maga republicans are that far out that they actually believe in it. it's the bi

, republicans. if we are so hateful towards each other and other republicans won't vote for us, we are doing exactly what the democrats want, right? the scorched earth i will take on every other republican instead of focusing on who voters one is to focus on which are the democrats. the democrats are leaving the border open. they are the ones that kept our kids out of school. they have allowed time to run rampant in the streets. that is the democrat party. as long as we are fighting each other, we are not keeping our eye on the price. we have to get the speaker ship settled and go forward if we will be successful in 2024 as a united party. right now, this exemplifies exactly what the democrats want to see from our party. >> sandra: ronna mcdaniel joining us during live breaking news we are covering on capitol hill at this hour. ronna, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sandra: fox news contributor reporter for axios, live on capitol hill. >> this is not a good start with the bi

she rose in the republican ranks.he role of conference chair when liz cheney was forced out of that position. she's one of the more junior members of the republican leadership team but someone close to donald trump. has endorsed him for his presidential campaign. it's not clear how much cache her support brings for mccarthy. the symbolism of picking her here, a woman, a younger member of the conference, someone close to the former president, is all the kinds of things he would like to wrap himself in as he takes the speakership bid to the floor today. >> of course, that's the new elyse stefanik. she came in as a young member and someone who was much more moderate. in fact, proclaimed herself a moderate. going into her third term, did not enjoy any power in the trump world. someone who once called donald trump a whack job. then became one of his closest acolytes. there's been a lot of profiling of her and what some would call the hypocrisy of her current position. but a rising party in this republican party. >>> we wan

i guess you already have so many republicans saying and know on this why do you think some republicans leader mccarthy would never go along with the maga republicans as he ran for speaker. and now he is still committed to them, still to put this bill before committee. i do not underestimate the power over mccarthy of these extreme maga republicans. we have to fight this plan now before more head of steam republicans supported. >> the so-called tax plan which would devastate working families and cut taxes for the wealthiest 1%1% in america so extreme, so t of touch, so unconscionable that you wonder who is sitting in some dungeon, some laboratory, some basement cooking up these extreme ideas to jam them down the throats of the american people. but that is what is happening. it is part of the house republican agenda. which is why we are speaking out against it. making it clear that the stakes american people. we are going to fight to defeat it, is basic, and make it clear that overall extreme agenda to undermine working families in the middle class in america in order to elevate the weal

then maga republicans, extreme maga republicans. there's none of that today. instead they're saying we're looking forward to working with the democratic leader, hakeem jeffries and looking forward to bipartisan implementation of the infrastructure law, things like this in kentucky that mitch mcconnell will go to. they're talking ant policy. they're talking about the president's platform. all things that the new house republican majority are not talking about because they are all tied up on their first day with this leadership fight. neil? >> neil: mitch mcconnell will be in kentucky for this event. he was the longest serving republican leader today. there's relevant decorum among republicans in the senate it would seem than this mess in the house. your thoughts. >> well, look, every hour on this first day that people that elected republicans to the house, every hour being spent talking about the peopler or the presumptive speaker is bad is an hourer that not talking about policy. at the white house, they're saying as everybody comes

we'd like to have a nice mainstream republican party. we wouldn't agree with them, but we could actually get things done. i don't think a mainstream republican party would flirt with the devastation of a debt ceiling that is not, you know, of defaulting on the debt. i think it's important to show how extreme these people are, how far out they are. yes. >> since you brought up debt ceiling. okay. we'll move to other stuff here. [laughter] >> all right, so, you've said that you want to see the republican plan, whatever it is.ep >> yes. but you want to see the cuts on the table and senator manchin said he would prefer to see speaker mccarthy meet with president biden to have a conversation about it. do you see any value in the president negotiating with speaker mccarthy. >> until the speaker has a plan and that can have a plan that would pass with republican support, his going to the white house is going without any card in his hand. the first step since mack consider think and many republicans are playing brinkmanship and holding this, and

they constantly seem disappointed that republicans aren't able to do the things that republicans say going to do, like, for example, vote for a terms limit. that's overwhelmingly popular. republicans always campaign for congress in two things. they say we're going to pass a term limits bill and pass a balanced budget amendment. i understand the frustration that a lot of new members, new conservatives have. they drew a line in the sand for some of the bills we always campaign on and never seem to vote on. i'm confident that kevin has heard from our conference we want to vote on these things. i'm confident we'll do it. it's going to be a tough job. that's why nobody else tried to run for speaker. it is a tough job to get to 218, but i believe kevin is the right guy. i was proud to support him, and nominated him on the floor. >> the two things you mentioned, they're show votes. they have no chance of passing. some might need to be constitutional amendments. you know how arduous that process is. what's the point of passing a bill that you put press on, but often doesn't get enacted. >> y

extreme republicans have said no. many republicans agree we should do something.t is time to stop listening to their inflammatory talk and look at the record. i will sit down with anyone who, in good faith, wants to fix the broken immigration system. it is hard. it is hard on the best of circumstances. if the most extreme republicans continue to reject solutions, i am left with one choice. back on my own, do as much as i can on my own, to change the atmosphere. host: those were remarks from president biden talking about the difficulty he has faced in democrats working with republicans to create comprehensive immigration reform laws. what do you think washington should be doing about immigration, about these issues at the southern border? democrats, your line is (202) 748-8000. republicans, call (202) 748-8001 . independents, your line is (202) 748-8002. if you live in a border state, we want you to call us at (202) 748-8003. you can also use that number to send us a text, that is (202) 748-8003. back to the phone lines now. calling from florida, a democrat. good m

collins marcia on the republican line. marcia on the republican line? there we go. you are on the air. caller: i agree with the gentleman. i do not see what the hurry is for a new speaker. we want the right speaker, and i understand. he laid it out really well when he spoke. this is the first time -- when it comes to voting, there might be a handful of people. he nailed it. as far as mccarthy? all i can say is, i better have the right speaker, but i do not know how long that will take. host: we expect them to continue voting for speaker of the house after a few failures yesterday. you can follow all of the live coverage as well on our free mobile app. the house is stalled by the senate has moved forward, electing readership in the house and moving forward with promoting leaders as well. first female president pro tem. washington senator patty murray made history tuesday, becoming the first woman to serve as president temper a. it is held by the seniormost member of the majority party. on the republican side, and his first-floor speech, the republican leader play --

republican line.ames, hello. caller: good morning. host: morning, you are on. caller: i'm so happy to hear that they can just nominate anyone. i would like for everybody to wake up and look at newt gingrich. i mean this man here is been added a long time. he's getting the truth for the american people. host: he brought forward the previous republican revolution. why would you think that at this time, why is he the man for the job right now? caller: well, because there's so much division in the ranks of the republicans that they need somebody, you know, that can really put it together. that's all, that's all i got to say. i think newt would be the man. i wish everybody would take a good look at that. because i mean, it's special that, you know, they could nominate somebody that's not there and i think they need somebody who's levelheaded. host: joining us now from arizona, independent mine, good morning. caller: good morning. i thought i heard someone mention trump as someone that could be the speaker

extreme republicans have said no. many republicans agree we should do something.t is time to stop listening to their inflammatory talk and look at the record. i will sit down with anyone who, in good faith, wants to fix the broken immigration system. it is hard. it is hard on the best of circumstances. if the most extreme republicans continue to reject solutions, i am left with one choice. back on my own, do as much as i can on my own, to change the atmosphere. host: those were remarks from president biden talking about the difficulty he has faced in democrats working with republicans to create comprehensive immigration reform laws. what do you think washington should be doing about immigration, about these issues at the southern border? democrats, your line is (202) 748-8000. republicans, call (202) 748-8001 . independents, your line is (202) 748-8002. if you live in a border state, we want you to call us at (202) 748-8003. you can also use that number to send us a text, that is (202) 748-8003. back to the phone lines now. calling from florida, a democrat. good m

caller: house republicans are -- guest: house republicans are considering their first two limit the biden administration's ability to govern. they wanted to limit his ability to tap into the strategic petroleum reserve and that is a move that democrats say it will -- say will raise gas prices and that is not expected to advance in the senate but that is something that house republicans will try to move this week. they also want to set up an faa task force. this will look at the numerous problems we have seen in be airline -- the airline history -- industry and most recently, last week and christmas, a lot of americans remember waiting in airports and the numbers problems -- numerous problems in the last two years and in the last six months so house republicans want to have this task force established. that would include people of all sides. the labor issue in the industry as well as experts and trying to figure out what needs to happen, why problems have occurred and why people have had to wait long periods of time in a airport. that is what they want to look at. we are watching for more

republicans, my republican fellow americans, they spend too much time on life and they need to go back to the founding fathers and rebuild about the mob, people live in a digital mob that never stops or goes away and you are destroying the values you claim to honor and hold so dear. >> and opinions piece here in the guardian, the headline from that piece, expect republican house to be like the speaker debacle, pure chaos. they passed a number of bills so far early wrapping up today on the house floor. they are in at 9:00er eastern, o abortion measures, condemning attacks on pro-life facilities, raised sheila jackson lee of texas, a democrat concerned about calling it one-sided for ignoring attacks on abortion providers. >> there has been loss of life, innocent persons who simply work providing medical care. doctor david gun was shot and killed by an opponent of abortion during a protest. former killing of doctor and volunteer, george, twice a target killed. this legislation is an extreme initiative because it's not here to acknowledge solemnity of which we stand. first to recognize the

andy biggs, the arizona republican. it hasn't been since 1923 that a house speaker hurt has gone to more than one ballot. what happens after that first vote really is up in the air right now. >> during that first vote, what is the magic number kevin mccarthy needs? and what could the vote tally look like? >> he needs 218, a majority of the house, not just a majority of republicans. in a closed-door session a week ago, most of them agreed that kevin who is the current republican leader would be there nominee for speaker. but five republicans have said they will vote against him, people like congressman matt gaetz or lauren boebert said she would vote against mccarthy at this juncture. that group, a lot of members of the house freedom caucus, are looking for rule changes that would empower them on certain issues, the main one being the motion to vacate the chair. a way to ask for speaker, normally that only takes one number to call that motion but republicans in mccarthy's camp would like to compromise on the five in orde

what do republicans want to do? the options are pretty limited. >> and ali vitali is with us as well. you covered the house and you have been filing all of this. our colleague jake sherman of punch bowl is saying that jim jordan is whipping on the floor. he got six votes. he's whipping to try to get more votes. and that kevin mccarthy wants to go right back into the second round. what do you expect to happen next? >> reporter: that would make a lot of sense. as so many people on this panel have said, the more time that elapses between these votes, the more that could work against kevin mccarthy. this is a group of people who have always been aware that this was going to be a slog. and they knew they were going to lose on this first ballot. as i have been talking to my sources, lawmakers, aids, freedom not, everyone is aware that the first ballot was just sort of the baseline. this is how we thought it was going to go, but really the question is how much moves as you look into the second ballot, potentially the third

the republicans are doing nothing. i voted, and i voted for them hoping that they would do something to help this country. they are doing nothing. this big clown show that they are putting on, it needs to stop. america looks like a laughingstock to the rest of the world. host: darlene, respond to the concessions that kevin mccarthy is making. let me read you, has kevin mccarthy given up his powers before he is even begun? the rules committee is often called the speakers committee because they are appointees all come speaker and it is stacked nine members of the majority to four from the minority. the panel can set the lineup for debating legislation however the speaker decides. chip roy, one republican who has been opposing kevin mccarthy. they have pushed for four appointees to come from the far right. usually, associated with the house freedom caucus. he would lead the hard right close to the margin of difference. traditionally, every member of the majority votes exactly as a speaker intends on the rules committee un

republicans 202-748-8001. and independents and others 202-748-8002. you in the "wall street journal" this morning online and here in the paper early talks begun rarely used tactic for debt ceiling. they say you are trying to use a discharge petition required 218 signatures regardless of party. majority of the house to dislodge a bill from the committee and move it to the floor. what are you trying to do in terms of the debt ceiling? >> guest: actually and it's a well-written piece. i think the headline might not be totally consistent with what's in the piece. from my view i've actually expressed words of caution about the discharge petition process. a lot of people have been bringing this up in the past week ever since they saw the remarkable come historic dysfunction on the house floor that we saw last week, first time in 100 years radical more than one round to vote for speaker, the longest that's lasted since literally before the civil war. many people understandably nervous as am i about whether or not the dysfunction on the house republican side

and the vict ru was the republican majority. i'm going to vote for kevin mccarthy as long as he's on the ballot. that's what we committed to do and i certainly share my colleagues' sentiment -- representative kelly's sentiment that there's negotiations and then there's holding the rest of us hostage. and 20 don't get to do that to 201. host: again, a group of republicans earlier today holding a news conference to talk about their support for kevin mccarthy. if you missed it, find it on our website, c-span.org if you missed any of the action today, find it on our website, c-span.org if you hit the play in the video player on the website you'll see gold stars that line up and that is the points of interest. the key moments from today. you can see the nomination speeches and the joat cut -- vote outcomes as well to follow along this evening, keep it here on c-span or go to c-span.org or you can follow along, watch and listen with our new c-span app. it's our c-span now mobile app. download it on any of your devices. donald, let's g

republican party want to admit it or not. it's true that he wasn't really able to convince those 6 hold out to change their mind and that he was blamed across the media for the poor showing of the republicans in the 20 to mid terms. but he still has a hold over the republican party to some extent, and they are going to really need to completely push out. trump ism, if they want to get back to winning elections because they, they can't with him still a big part of this party. they haven't really addressed january 6 and all of the activities that he's been involved in that and gotten in trouble with the law from all the different types of fraud and so on. they have decided to make a deal with the devil, so to speak, because they think that's going to bring out votes for him. i and they really lost their soul and doing so and he's still there. and i think that's something that the lease are going to have to really address if they have one have any chance in new york. well, in the, in collections i have few other angles. i would

and remember the republican map, the map in 20243 republican friendly.y can get some solid candidates, they are facing a lot of democrats in red states. a lot of republicans think the senate republicans kind of blew their chance you. they will get another chance in 2024 anglesey who wins that primary challenge and struggle between mitch mcconnell and donald trump, and those two are never going to get along. >> host: dimension mitch mcconnell. he sits appear with president biden tomorrow. tall about the talk about the politics tragedies always been a backer of infrastructure and the ribbon some major needs especially a particular bridge in kentucky. so he is going to appear with the president. it's interesting, there's tension between kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell. we've seen that on various legislation including the last fiscal package they got past late last month. so overall, mccarthy, mcconnell has that he is pulling for mccarthy what you don't think mccarthy gets exposed in the house.y. by he wants him to win. i think would rather work with kevi

so, it does not matter whether his candidacy is opposed by 105 republicans, or five republicans. he will still lose, if it is just five of them. the problem with predicting republican they heavier in the house of representatives is that you must predict, and take on the challenge of predicting, what pathological liars will do next. the only thing you ever have to go on is what pathological liar say they will do next. so, you know. i have been reluctant to engage in that. representative matt gates has said, as convincingly as he can, that he will never vote for kevin mccarthy. but that is only one vote. if there are four more republicans who, really, will never vote for kevin mccarthy, then, at some point, possibly next week, we will see a move to a serious attempt to elect a speaker other than kevin mccarthy. and the first on the list, as the likely next alternative to mccarthy's, representative steve scalise, but steve scalise is a member of mccarthy's leadership team and, representative lauren boebert who, appears to be in the never company group has said, she has a problem vot

a republican caller. caller: hello. i will have to congratulate the democrat party in convincing half the nation that gerrymandering is only done by republicans or equal weighted with republicans and making adjustments to social security schedules given the change in demographics is called cutting and destroying and coming after their social security. you just said it, all reasonable people agree due to changes in demographics there have to be adjustments to the schedules used by social security in order to maintain it. but, you succeed in demonizing republicans because they talk about the need to make adjustments and they want to do it sooner than you would like. if it is done gradually and wisely, gradually, it might save social security. no, well, the other guys get to talk longer. host: thank you. we will let the congressman respond. guest: thank you for the call. one of the adjustments that have been proposed by republicans over many decades is lowering, -- i wish it was lowering the age, it was increasing the reti

it is not democratic or republican. people come on and complain about democrats if they are republicans, republicans complain about democrats. by the time they get to where they are in office in washington, d.c., they are owned by big political backers, big-money men, both democrats and republicans. they do not care about what they did to us. the other thing i would have left a gotten on with val demmings being from florida, my opinion of what we have going on with this country with guns and violence is the fact that when a 16 or 15 or 14 or, in the past couple of weeks, a six-year-old takes a gun and shoot somebody, the parents are not held responsible for what has gone on. that is our problem. if some kid gets his hands on a gun when he is not of legal age, the parents are responsible for everything he does. those are the two major things i have. host: can i ask about the first one? you talk about politicians, people hate congress but like their members of congress. they hate politicians or like their politicians. do

this is the first impressions of the republican house. this is the first day of the second half of joe biden's term. this is the first day of the 2024 cycle and this is the message, not this is what we want to do for inflation, the border, immigration, this is our message about america's role in the world, this is how we're different or better than biden. that's what they wanted to do. instead doing this. >> let us underline, dana, how historic this is. this has not happened since 1923 when the then house speaker, a republican, frederick gi gillette -- kevin mccarthy said he's given the longest speech in the house of representatives and if he is going to win with the highest number of ballot votes then so be it. >> that's right. and so, look, the question is at one point does this been the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result? we're only on -- we're on the second ballot? >> the second ballot. [ laughter ] >> everybody already lost track. >> and there's no sense that things will change. thi

house republicans are no exception.mong the bills passed so far this week, if they became law will rescind new funding for the irs. create a subcommittee to look at what republicans are calling -- most of the bills passed will not become law is a democrat controlling the senate. but that may not be as important as a path that has house republicans taking a stand on issues they promise to tackle. the direction in which they were still the country. hello and good morning. welcome to the program. we start with asking you about the house majority, the direction of the republican majority so far. do you approve? that line is 202-748-8000. if you disapprove 202-748-8001. you can send us a text 202-748-8003. make sure you tell us your name and where you are texting from it. on facebook and twitter and instagram @cspanwj. they're getting to work earlier in the house today. somewhat typical they start work this morning at 9:00 eastern. it will be of shorter program this morning. the direction of the republican majority, if you a

republicans do not reciprocate, he'll be shocked to hear. i mean, do you think a republican a.g. working for donald trump would have picked today democratic special counsel to investigate, say, hillary clinton, or barack obama? if merrick garland really is trying to appease the right with what he sees as a non partisan pick to run the biden investigation, well, it's not working. listen to your trump ally kash patel explain what he thinks of the republican who merrick garland pick to investigate biden. >> this guy is a swamp monster of the deer one level, a government gangster, in charge of the continued crime scene cover-up. >> in terms of the republicans in congress, meanwhile, rather than rely on the swamp monster special counsel, they're running their own investigation. nearly knitted house judiciary chairman jim jordan announced today the first order of business for his committee will be investigating biden's handling of classified materials. short of putting donald trump himself in charge of running the biden investigation, there is no candidate merrick garland could pick th

but republicans have begun to implement, which we suspected would be an extreme maga republican, right-wing agenda. on monday, the republicans come to the floor of the house of representatives and they bring a bill that is designed to help the wealthy, the well-off and the well-connected cheat on their taxes, avoid paying their fair share as part of some effort to subsidize the lifestyles of the rich and shameless. that's monday. then, on tuesday, empower a select committee to obstruct justice and protect insurrectionists and ultimately defund the f.b.i. on wednesday, they made if clear they'll do everything possible to impose a nationwide ban on abortion, detonate reproductive freedom, criminalize abortion care, and impose government-mandated pregnancies on the american people. that's what their legislation yesterday was all about. that's this week, an extreme maga republican land. it's quite unfortunate. we remain committed to try to find common ground, to solve problems that the american people care about. we also remain committed to a woman's freedom to make her own reproductive health

i will tell you right now i back the republicans 100% -- yes, the republicans 100%.hen we were under trump, we all did better. i could pay my utilities. i could get as much gasoline in my car as i wanted. the democrats, for example, want to put in an obama walking trail. you are going to tell me that is more important than me paying my utilities? i don't think so. the open borders biden has? he is doing nothing but killing our young people and they don't care. host: stephen in michigan says the republicans need to realize it is not just a spending problem. tax cuts do not lead to prosperity. jim in austin, texas, independent. caller: yes, ma'am. i trust in the u.s. prosperity party. they are way more confident -- competent than the democrats and republicans. they will take over washington, d.c. usprosperityparty.com or.org. caller: good morning. i believe in the democratic theory. republicans want to negotiate but that money is already spent. negotiate on the budget afterwards. kevin mccarthy and the republicans are trying to destroy this economy like they always do.

will enough republicans vote to do that, including the republicans who are anti-kevin mccarthy? we have our team on this as we get closer to a key moment for kevin mccarthy. brendan, pull back the curtain. we were talking about how one of the most interesting things is what we will see in, let's say, 12 minutes from now, when there's a motion to adjourn or this fourth ballot. really, those are the only two options, right? it's not like there's anything else the house of representatives can do until they get the speaker stuff figured out. >> they will vote again. they can go through nominating speeches or they can make a motion to adjourn. that's all you can do. kevin mccarthy doesn't have the votes at this time. he wants to buy time to come up with a deal. democrats may have no interest in helping him buy more time. the people who are opposing him may have no interest in helping him buy time. they are in the driver's seat. they have him where they want him. they are showing that they are winning, that he is not making progress. they know another vote where he doesn't show progre

there's a republican -- the republicans are trying to get the majority. that's what kevin mccarthy has spent his entire career focusing on. >> this pledge is just on safe republican seats. am i wrong? >> i saw the word safe. >> what does that mean? >> there aren't that many swing seats left. >> there are not. either way, they have come to focus on -- this has been the central grievance of a lot of the anti-mccarthyites, that the establishment comes in and crushes their candidacies before they have a chance to get off the ground. a couple of them have made them into congress anyway, like bob good. it's why he is angry at kevin mccarthy. >> that was a convention in virginia. >> it's another thing but -- >> this is part two of this wing of the republican party taking completely different lessons away from the party's electoral losses of 2022 and 2020 and 2018. >> the wave that was a trickle. >> the wave that was a trickle. they are interpreting the same facts in radically different ways. it's not totally different from what you might see at times on the left

-- lack republicans -- black republicans in office.plause] we have a long way to go but we have come so far and we can't quit. you don't fire a guy who is winning. you look at the governors mansion's and the legislation we have lost this past cycle and you look at the gains kevin mccarthy has made a pillow, -- made uphill, the mainstream media likes to laud the leadership of nancy pelosi, but kevin mccarthy one it back half of the time uphill. you want to talk about people who can win, i am alliance fan -- a lion's fan. we need to learn how to win and learn how to take a victory. with kevin mccarthy's leadership, he has given us victory on rules, keeping costs down and winning a majority. i am so proud to be part of the majority making class and he has earned my trust and hopefully he has earned your trust and he has 90% of us in the conference. when is the last time anyone has had a 90% approval rate? kevin mccarthy you will see over 90% approval rate. if you want to make history, let's do it the right way. we need a conservative figh

that's the big difference between house democrats and the extreme mag at republican -- maga republican agenda. questions? reporter: kevin mccarthy said george santos would not serve on any of the top eight committees however he did say republicans would place him on some committee or committees. do you have any national security concerns about mr. santos serving on committees, given that even tni has oversight of things like the faa. we saw major airline issues pop up yesterday, agriculture has jurisdiction over food safety and things like that. you have any national security concerns about george santos serving on committees? rep. jeffries: let me say it's clear to me that george santos is not fit to serve in the night states congress. that's not my perspective. that's not a democratic perspective. my republican colleagues, his next-door neighbors in new york have said george santos is not fit to serve in congress. what's interesting because many of us are wondering how did republicans let this happen, how did you get behind someone like george santos, who is so clearly a fraudster? s

the republican dissenters are in a meeting with the republican leadership.i know you do. no, listen so they are trying to make out a deal that would allow this process to go forward. here's the rub, nicolle, they can't even adjourn and stop voting without consent of the body, without consent of house republican leaders, without consent of house republicans and house democrats. it is a -- there are no rules right now, so they have to keep voting until they have a speaker which is why mccarthy is down six ballots. no one in their mind would go through six ballots where you know they're going to lose them by choice. so do i think they're going to come to an agreement? i don't know. mccarthy has more ground to make up than he should be able to make up. that's obvious. he has to flip a lot of votes, but the two sides are talking. that is a good sign for mccarthy, but the larger problem will become if they come to a deal, can the rest of the republican conference win it. they want seats on prime committees, they want to boot out subcommittee chairs for these repub

i'd like it see them somehow go a democrat and republican, democrat, republican. so they're mixed throughout the chamber. host: all right. jason, new jersey. democratic caller. your reaction. caller: yeah. that was just outrageous what besaw today -- what we saw today. clearly the republican party is divided in the house and maybe not even the house, but honestly i think if the republicans decide to just put more votes toward that democratic candidate, a democratic speaker and a republican majority house, that would just be interesting and something very interesting to see some day in history. host: all right. steve, anaheim, republican. caller: hi. i don't know. i thought it was an embarrelsment for my party. if this is the way they're going to even pick a speaker, i mean, what's going to be in the future? it seems to me they're more interested in having am committees to investigate whatever they want to investigate than actually solving the real problem out there such as inflation, health care, women's rights, child care. you know, all this stuff, immigration, i

and i do believe that that is a central republican problem. whether mccarthy closes through or not, the core concern here is, who would ascend to that seat? i do not believe that kevin mccarthy has the votes. i believe that a lot of the opposition to him is very personal. i believe his leadership style is incompatible with a lot of republican members and certainly the democratic caucus. and so i think that is the central question. if not him, then who? you have certain members of the freedom caucus who have, of course, nominated other people. but the rest of the republican party will not rally, i believe, will not coalesce under jim jordan. jim jordan himself does not want it. they will not coalesce under someone like andy biggs. and so the question is, is there anyone in their caucus that can build that consensus? if there is not, mccarthy's team may have to come to the democratic party. and if that is the case, then what would that even look like? it is rather unprecedented. could it result in a potential coalition government? could we get d

biden, and it is going to be a republican extremist dream, what is going to happen in the republican-controlled house. there is going to be a country aghast and it is going to really just spill out the extremists and i think it is going to motivate the rest of us to do something. everyone talks about term limits, but i don't think term limits are the answer. i think the answer really is term limits along with rank-choice voting and i interested to hear your opinion on that. thank you. guest: you are right that rank-choice voting has a lot of momentum hide it right now to be successful. the goal is to hopefully discourage victories by more extreme candidates. if anybody watching doesn't understand what it is, instead of just taking the favorite candidate, at the name suggests, you actually rank them. if nobody gets a majority, you go again and the candidate gets more votes as others are eliminated. who actually care about trying to get peoples second, third votes. you're going to tend to be more reasonable, you're going to tend to be more moderate, you are not going to tend to make as extreme ty

they are fine with us continuing to play out as republican dysfunction, which it is, but republicans, now, i'm watching those yeas and nays votes come in, because it's unclear. yeah, 90% of republicans might want to adjoining give kevin mccarthy the space to keep negotiating here, but there are also the 10% that have been causing these problems in the first place, and they could end up saying, nope, let's stay here and keep hammering this out on the floor, now by, ballot round by round. i will also note, at least when people started going into the chamber, -- mccarthy is actually walking right behind me here on the floor, he's not on the floor yet. so, we will see if he says anything as it kind of gets behind us, you see the scrum of reporters around him. do you have the votes to this point? >> and you heard someone else and they're asking the exact same question. does he have the votes. i couldn't hear an answer, but i'd also don't think he gave one. we'll see what mccarthy does when he gets on the floor, and frankly house ends up shaking up, but look, best part in the worst part of

they are republicans.favor of more guns, not less on the streets which doesn't make any sense to me. all the other law enforcement in our state are very much in favor of taking assault weapons off the streets. so frankly, they're the outliars. i know they're loud in their opposition to this. it's our state police and law enforcement across the state that will enforce this law. and these outlier sheriffs will comply or, frankly, they'll, you know, have to answer to the voters. >> i think for those of us who have witnessed and read the news about the mass shootings happening all over the country and little being done about them, it is -- i think everybody should be breathing a collective sigh of relief that in one state action is being taken with the leadership of a governor who just won re-election. governor, thank you so much for your time. congratulations on this win. >> thank you, alex. >>> we have one more story for you to night. after more than three decades in the making, we are seeing major progress

host: that's one of those topics republicans will talk about. hunter biden is in the news but one if his thing was his connection to a mine. what would they see in that connection? guest: the sale of one of the world's largest cobalt mind. they are used in high-powered dvds. it's a key part in the fast car ev that does well on the market. hunter biden, according to the new york times. i have not verified the entirety of their reporting. he was involved in a firm that played a minor role in the exchange of a mine from a u.s. company from difficult financial conditions to a chinese company. that reporting was coupled with another new story published by the new york times about u.s. officials potentially raising concerns about the sales from u.s. company to a chinese company. republicans have taken those two stories and put them together. i am not familiar of any examples where the united states interfered in a foreign business interaction. if republicans go in that direction, would they like the u.s. to play a greater role allows assets to be sold

this is republican hypocrisy in its finest. when the former president had 320 documents found in his personal residence, they said that, quote, that will not be a priority. what president biden did was disclose this to the archives, let law enforcement no. that is exactly the way that you should handle this. so we're going to support the fact that the president is following this established protocol, that he did the right thing, and see what other come and see what we go from here. but republicans are not interested in having meaningful oversight. they are just interested in opposing this president. >> what do you say speed is going. >> what you say to those about the documents discovered and they could've been withheld to a potential damage against democrats before the midterm? >> this was that in consultation. merrick garland have u.s. attorney weight and at this point back. this is being done the exactly, getting the archives involved, some of whose on the january 6th committee, there is a process to handling documents. the

house republicans some of the house maga republicans have asked their leadership, we hear some housens from house republicans at their leadership has agreed to give gop radicals a boat, 30%% national sales tax across the board. 30% sales tax on everything meeting right now inflation finally begins to drop republicans are looking to make american families pay 30% more for every single thing they buy. the republican national sales tax is a disaster for american families. you do not need to take it from me. the proposal on your retirement savings, he's hardly an ally of ours prince steve forbes is as rent house prices by $100,000 and raise american bills by thousands. there is nothing fair about this republican sales tax. so, if republicans want to push this terrible proposal they are welcome to make their case, make our day. similarly if republicans want to play brinksmanship with deficit and demanding cuts dating to show us exactly what they want to cut. they have said they're going to put all these bills on the floor regular order and have votes. let's see what cuts they want to make

when are we going now with the republican party? well, the dynamic here that a play now that this past week is over and we do have a speaker. it's quite complex and it can't be distilled down to one or 2 things. as certainly the impact of where her present shrubs and the fact that he's also announced 2024 bit already. that plays a real major role here. but what we saw also this week is that his endorsement of mccarthy really didn't mean much of particularly to those 6 final hotels who ended up voting presently to give mccarthy the speakership. it's important to note that these people say they want to drain the swamp. they want to break the establishment and they consider mccarthy and mcconnell, even in the senate. i had to be part of washington's old school. and what they've really done by taking him in your trunk is given a throwback to his 2016 1st bid for the white house and said that you don't have to be an establishment bigger. in order to, wench, we can appease the american people are republican base by breaking these people t

yet those republicans didn't win.f the most recent examples. i saw him stump speech over and over again when i was in georgia. he talked over and over about pronouns, you don't want someone that looks like me to compete against your young daughters. he didn't win. >> the culture wars didn't really win, to your point. also, shortly after the midterms, back in congress they passed a law that basically tried to protect same-sex marriage. it seems to me republicans are going down this path, but that's not really where the country is. >> to clearly an mate the base. herschel walker knew where his because was on that, the same way former president trump does. the culture wars have a certain galvanizing effect on the republican party. i don't think you're going to get them to foresquare that for the sake of public polls for the s sake that the country doesn't like it. >> we'll see some of these bills in congress. >> melanie, tell us what you're looking at. >> we talked about the freak caucus and the fringe members but what i

they elected a lot of center right republicans, they rejected a lot of trump crazy republican. >> they rejected this. this is what they rejected. >> so mitch mcconnell is saying, okay, they want bridges built. they want if it's a ream deal republicans to talk to democrats and cut a deal and mitch mcconnell is being a governing conservative. congressman davis, you just talked to like mitch mcconnell is a governing conservative. we want to get things done. what's the best deal we can get? these 20 hold-outs are not governing anything. they are rabble rousers. >> we already had one -- the house of representatives has 435 members. there is one vacancy because of a death. that's a democratic congressman from virginia. congresswoman victoria spartz, she's a republican, from indiana who had been supporting mccarthy. she now brings the threshold down from 218 -- >> takes two. >> takes two votes because congressman mceachin is already missing so he's missing because he passed away. >> that means there are 433. >> so with the vacancy and the present vote for every two not voting for a candidate

republicans are underred.hey have two years until their next election so they don't really have to worry right now about winning the middle and independens, it's about showing the base we will do what we told you we would do. laura: as they are facing a split congress, house republicans themselves have a lot of drama internally. nick, on george santos, he is facing a lot of calls from new york republicans, including some members of the house gop themselves, to resign. later mccarthy -- excuse me, speaker mccarthy is not calling on him to resign and fellow gop leaders are not calling on him as well. why do you think that is? nick: because they have to have his vote in the house, they can't afford to alienate a single one. they can say let's have the process play out, have investigations. it's not up to mccarthy to the side and he can say it's not up to me. i do think if you had to ask why is he saying i am not going to resign, i don't think there is any lesson from the past five years that would tell george san