if the republican party doesn't welcome him with open arms, there's something wrong with the republican party. they want to be a big party, and like i said the leadership in both parties are close together. he'll be challenged because the republican party - i didn't ask him, but in the campaign i said the republican party has lost its way. the democrats lost their way too, because they are one and the same. they believe in big government and don't care about personal liberty. they care about fighting wars. the military industrial complex, the medical, the surveillance industrial complex. we are facing a crisis because both parties are owned by the corporations who make a lot of money on this. that is the challenge we have as americans to find out whether or not we will save our country by restoring the principles of civil liberty >> dr ron paul, former congressman and 3-time presidential candidate. thank you so much for talking to al jazeeraindustrial complex. congressman and 3-time al jazeera. al jazeera.

if the republican party doesn't welcome him with open arms, there's something wrong with the republicanparty. they want to be a big party, and like i said the leadership in both parties are close together. he'll be challenged because the republican party - i didn't ask him, but in the campaign i said the republican party has lost its way. the democrats lost their way too, because they are one and the same. they believe in big government and don't care about personal liberty. they care about fighting wars. the military industrial complex, the medical, the surveillance industrial complex. we are facing a crisis because

there was a strange sound coming out of the republican party this week. it was actual frustration with cruz, actual anger toward cruz. it came from some house republicans. a few senators. these are republicans who don't want to shut down the government over obama care funding, who don't want a debt ceiling default because of obama care funding. they haven't been that loud for the last three years, but they were this week. >> this is not the way it should have been done. it is a situation that the house was put in. and i went along yesterday for the purpose of moving the process forward and hopefully exposing these small group of republican senators who are holding the entire party hostage. >> are the ted cruz types really just a fringe element exerting undue influence over the rest of the party? the rest of the country? or is cruz a more widespread in the gop than peter king gives it credit for? is he actually the outlier? are republicans like him the outliers? like i said it probably going to be a long and ugly fall in washington. but what does -- but wha

right now, the republican party has been a rhetorically prolimited government party, and there are, i i note in the book, periods where the republican party lived up to the represent -- rhetoric. there's the truman administration, called the do nothing congress under robert taft, the congress with ronald reagan elected in 1980, and the first year or two of the gingrich congress in 1984. most of you are a little younger than me, or quite a bit younger than me, but i always say joking that there was just one good album, and the gingrich congress had two good years when they tried to cut government spending, but we need, if we're going to actually have limited government in the country, a political party that actually advocates limited government. we have a political party on the democrats that are certainly not shy about advocating for much bigger government, and president obama is very unapologetic in saying that there really are not other sphiewtions in the american life to keep us together besides the big federal government. now, that's, obviously, not true. there are churches. there

gallup shows since november 2010, republicans, repeat, republicans who support the tea party has declined%. how do republicans retake anything if they're dependent on tea party voters and tea party stars like ted cruz? >> well, i think you have your finger on what is the problem here. you have a situation where even if other members of the republican party in congress, house or senate want to go in a different direction and many of them do at least on getting this vote done today and wrapping this up so we have a budget in place, the steering wheel is being controlled by folks on the far right so until the republican leadership gets control of their party, we put at risk control of the economy and that's -- i think it's about as simple as that. look what's happening on the floor right now, martin. you see an agreement by basically 98 senators to vote today and to get this wrapped up so we can have some certainty this weekend there's not going to be a government shutdown and have two senators so far only two who are blocking even getting votes done today. so that they can have a good day o

that's what the republican party has to do. en we deal with these growing pains to unite and we should be uniting our party, that also means reaching across the aisle and getting things done together as team usa. and senator cruz is really hurting the republican party from working among themselves but also working to stop any of the bipartisanship if we're going to get anything of substance passed through the house and signed on the president's desk. >> now, steve, i didn't do this just because you're on this show, but i know you're going to like who is siding up here with ted cruz. senator cruz does have a supporter. sarah palin remember she was governor of alaska until she quit? she wrote an op-ed that said as follows. if the senate doesn't get behind ted cruz's efforts to defund obama care, it wouldn't be because of failure on ted's part. it would be there weren't enough principled leaders to stand with him. it's enough to set it on cruz control. they've written my political obituary. good luck with that you weasels. and a re

yes, the republican party has to fight t. growing opportunity for republicans to take back the senate next year and to take back the white house in 2016 is going to be blown if people think the party will take them hostage. >> the voting strategy speaks of drumming up conservative report. how so? >> i think if you look at the raw numbers, it is clear that at this point he simply doesn't have the vote. >> that is why a lot of republicans, there already no liberals like tom coburn of oklahoma. he is one of the fiscally conservatives on capitol hill. he says, look, elections have consequences. we only have the house ofs are. we don't have a full branch of government. what are we going to do about it? i agree with both the speaker and david what ted cruz has done is absolutely energized the conservative base and no question that was what this was about. to get people pushing the dial, pushing people like peter king who the speaker is right, he did ends up begrudgingly voting for this, in order to do this. but that really has caus

republican. yet, he work the for president obama, was ambassador to china and came back and ran against some in his own partyyour father, who are loyal republicans, believe in the republican party but have to deal with this element, what kind of position does it put them in? >> well, sadly, they have nowhere to go right now. it's really unfortunate tor someone like my dad who you mentioned who has a lot of good ideas that i think he could provide to the republican party today in order to actually win a gem election. he understands the world. he's been governor of the most conservative state in the country. they're not going to people like my dad. they're not interested in the ideas. they're interested in the rhetoric. you look at bill clinton and ronald reagan for example. why did they succeed? these are both politicians that brought their party back from the fringes. they put forward policies that were best for the american people. clinton for example was able to balance the budget. he was able to bring different constituencies to the table. ronald reagan who ended the cold war. they are not throwing out id

but this man does have a significant place in the republican party. doesn't he? i don't know if you've been -- you can cast any light on this. but apparently, according to politico, gop senator john boozman laid into cruz, and another republican said that boozman was like a sleeping bear who had been awoken. >> that's exactly right. i can confirm that report. i've actually spoken to sources who are familiar with that meeting on tuesday, among senate republicans behind closed doors and one senate republican described it as so. it was like a family reunion gone bad. all came together as a family on obamacare, willing to defund it. now there is in-fighting, a civil war about tactics and strategy and whether the conservative movement should run the republican party or the leadership should. >> okay. well, the president's signature health care reform, the exchange is open in six days. he made the point last night that cruz's greatest fear must be the people see this in practice, just like they did with medicare, and like it. >> yeah well, i think that is what could hap

did you have conversations with the 15 republicans that bucked the party politics and said we're going america. >> i did. i voted for members who voted with us on this, republican members. i talked to republicans who were very uncomfortable with this vote. i kept urging them, vote your conscious, not eric cantor's conscious. thches not written in the agriculture committee, it was written in eric cantor's living room. i know a lot of rank and file republicans did not like to cast that vote yesterday. i'm disappointed more didn't stand up to their leadership and the people they represent. these are our neighbors. these are the people who we should be caring about and not treating with disrespect. >> massachusetts congressman jim mcgovern, thank you for voting with your conscious and thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> after the break, the cantaloupe king is at it again. congressman king who has used dogs and drug mules to describe imlegal immigrants has upped his own ante, i didn't think was possible by invoking september 11th. we will discuss that on "now." good job! still

yes, the republican party has to fight. if it strikes people that the base has moved so far as to become extreme, the growing opportunity for republicans to take back the senate next year and to take back the white house in 2016 is going to be blown if people think the party has been taken hostage by extremists. >> dana, you say that cruz's voting strategy even speaks more to drumming up conservative support than actually getting something done. how so? >> reporter: well, i think if you just look at the raw numbers, it's very clear that at this point he simply doesn't have the votes. that is why you play to the segment a lot of republicans they're certainly no liberals like tomko burn of oklahoma, he's in one of the most fiscally conservative republicans on capitol hill. even he said, look, elections have consequences. we only have the house of representatives. we don't even have a full branch of government. so what are we going to do about it? but i do absolutely agree with both the speaker and david that what ted cruz has

you need to know this the republican party has become the party of suicide bombers back on the night of january twentieth two thousand and nine the first the day that president obama was first inaugurated fourteen republicans got together in a private room at the caucus room restaurant here in washington d.c. and hatched a plan to sabotage. the obama presidency at every opportunity no matter how much damage it would do to the american people on the guest list for the four hour invitation only meeting were republican congressman eric cantor paul ryan kevin mccarthy pete sessions jeb hensarling pete hoekstra and dan lungren republican senators jon kyl now heritage foundation president and then senator jim de mint tom coburn john ensign and bob corker were also in tents that meeting was also attended by republican propaganda group frank luntz and by former speaker of the house and current c.n.n. pardon that newt gingrich who told us about that meeting on this program during the dinner the republican conspirators vowed to bring congress to a standstill regardless of how bad the congressio

a clash between the old and the new republican party. the two broke out, courtesy of senator john mccain, who's no friend of president obama's. mccain's message to ted cruz and other radical right-wingers, when it comes to obamacare, get over it. >> we've fought as hard as we could in a fair and honest manner, and we lost. and we lost -- one of the reasons is, because we in the minority. the elections have consequences. people spoke. they spoke, much to my dismay, but they spoke. and they reelected the president of the united states. all of us should respect the outcome of the elections which reflects the will of the people. >> they lost. john mccain unloaded on cruz with the truth, the truth that was missing during cruz's overnight circus act where he rambled on about dr. seuss and star wars and nazis, and he spread epic miss truths about obamacare. >> millions of people are asking for accountability, for responsibility, for truth from their elected officials. for truth about how obamacare is failing the men and women of america. >> wro

republican votes. they are the majority party. how does the whip count look right now? for military action, you can see, eight republicans in the entire house who say they are for it. 164 who have indicated they're against it or leaning against it. 62 undecided. that's a 20-1 margin. by a 20-1 margin, house republicans are more likely to say they are against -- leaning against an attack than to say they are for it. a bare minimum if every member in the congress votes for obama, he would still need 17 republicans. right now he's not even halfway there. in reality he needs a lot more than 17 republicans because there are going to be a whole bunch of democrats who also vote no on this. the numbers right there, for an attack, 17 right now saying they're for it in the house. against it or leaning against it, 62, undecided 120. for every democrat who breaks with the white house on this, that makes one more republican the president is going to need if he's going to get his resolution through. obama still has time here. how can obama convince republicans? last four years opposin

tonight we begin, one day closer to a shutdown and one day closer to a total meltdown within the republican party. this morning, speaker john boehner once again taking shots at senate republicans, repeating that he expects them to put up a worthy fight to defund obama care. which led to senators mike lee and ted cruz, just hours later, appearing with eight house republicans for a bit of damage control. we are watching right now, the republican party, cannibalize itself in realtime. but here's the thing. that does not mean we are going to avoid a government shutdown, or even a adult over this crew shade to take down obama care. because the passion on obama care, the zealotry that makes republicans willing to shut down the u.s. government to kill it, that hasn't got anywhere. >> the reason i came to congress after a 12-year hiatus, is because this bill is so oppressive and so hurtful. >> this is going to be a law that we see already as hurting people. >> i will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund obama care. >> reporter: more than two years after the president signed his health

the train crash right now is the republican party. you've got karl rove, "the wall street journal," peter king just came out and said that people in the senate are perpetuating a fraud. republicans in the senate are perpetuating a fraud on the american people. sounds like a train wreck to me because you have extremists in your party that have pulled you guys off into la-la land. >> i don't want you to -- i'm going to let you make karl rove sound credible. but i can tick off similar examples on our side. you have howard dean, the virginia black caucus, barney frank, unions -- there's been a list of democrats and democrat-affiliated groups that have come out to either voice concerns, ask for changes, express frustration or outright oppose parts of this legislation. >> and never threaten to shut down america's government. and we, frankly, are having, i think, a grown-up discussion inside our party about ways to make it better. what you guys are doing is having a brawl on the front yard in front of everybody when you've got people calling

wish we would know their names so we can throw them the hell out of the republican party. >> neil: sara palin will be here tomorrow. she says how these republican lawmakers vote now could have major impact on next year's election and like, mark levin, for the soul of the republican party itself mitchell special guest at 4:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow. >> we are live in the pelly of the -- belly of the beast wednesday with reaction to all of this, kentucky senator rand paul will be joining, mark warner, john mccain, much, much more, we kick off 4:00 p.m. etime in our nation's capitol, keeping track of your capital, some would say cappal jim itself. 8:00 p.m. on fox business. a who new revamped cavuto. >> terrorists alive and well. you still think what happened there can't happen here? think again. check it out... over 20 million drivers are insured with geico. so get a free rate quote today. i love it! how much do you love it? animation is hot...and i think it makes geico's 20 million drivers message very compelling, very compelling. this is some really strong stuff! so you turned me into a

to the conservatives do not need the republican party. [applause] you want to get joel? all right. >> my name is joe gilbert from highway 61 and i have two questions. the first one is given the history of failure and socialism and communism what is the psychological recommended on the system and second, would you be willing to be interviewed for my new movie? >> i've been in your movies before and i would be like it again. let me answer in terms of the appeal of socialism is very strongly seductive. i remember every one gender than you read the communist manifesto. it promises a worker's paradise. do not hesitate also to study the collective the millions of people killed. don't hesitate to study the millions killed in china or what we used to call indochina were some of the people in china or russia who are desperate for freedom. whenever anyone is telling you the government is going to help you run from them and of the fortunately in the school's pool indoctrination has been so effective going back into the last century of the united sta

how is that a good strategy for the republican party? that's already been proven wrong when republicans shut down the government more than a decade ago. so i think that he aptly summed it up. >> we will see. >>> in the "crossfire" tonight two the ted cruz's bob casey of pennsylvania, and saxby chambliss of georgia, who wants to repeal it. senator chambliss, the first question to you. senator cruz has been taking a lot of people from his own party. senator mccain said this has been debated, the american people have spoken and when they reelected president obama. senator mcconned said our strategying have been to be based in the real world, in real yi9, not based on what ted cruz just did. you've also been a critic of what senator cruz did last night. is this good for the republican party? where is the strategy? >> well, look, you know, bob and i are privileged to serve in a very unusual institution. you've been there with us, you know how it works. the thing about the united states senate is every member has the opportunity to express them

when did eric cantor become too liberal for the republican party? tly when tefs clear that the missile attacks in syria. >> right. >> if you side by definition with these folks, you are not a real republican. you are a rhino. if you side with bam on anything. have you the leadership as one analyst compared it to going from ice floe to ice floe trying just to hang on and get through the day without plunging into the depths of takes on of what they call the raucous caucus. they are not only destructive to governance because we're not governing the country now, but there are also enormously self destructive as that comment indicated, and so long-term this is very difficult for the republican party. to that point, let me tell you something about this far right element. it is very short. take a listen to this. >> the anarchists have taken over. >> the anarchists have taken over. we keep going back to this problem of the gop versus the wing. >> and first of all the credit to alex wagner. i don't want it steal it. the idea that you do have this group of abo

we just spent the top of the show looking at the republican party, which seems to be in tatters at thel. i wonder what you make of the discrepancy between your version of republicanism and their version of republicanism. >> i'm a new york republican. look, i'm very progressive on social issues. i always have been. i'm very fiscally conservative. you know, there was a time when the republican party had many of the same views that i'm talking about. you know, the candidate in '64 actually was pro-choice at the time. he was pro-gay rights at the time. it's evolved over time. i guess i haven't evolved with the party. there are a lot of rules in the republican party i would not be allowed into. it doesn't bother me. i want to be the mayor of the city of new york. >> do you think that there's a residual sort of backlash that you get by being a republican affiliated with a party that is in a specific place nationally right now? >> sure. i think my opponent and his surrogates will pigeon hole me. i fully expect to be brandished everything that i'm not. i'm prepared to answer the questions. the

. >>> because the republican party controls the house, one of the practical consequences of that is that on every committee in the house, there are more republicans than there are democrats. so, say on that house oversight committee, there are 17 democrats, but there are 23 republicans. there's more republicans than democrats. well, late last week, the chairman of that particular committee, the oversight committee, darrell issa, he tweeted some pictures from a hearing he had called for his committee on the issue of benghazi. darrell issa's one of the republicans who believes that the attack that killed four americans in benghazi two years ago was not a tragedy, not just a terrorist attack, but rather, it was some sort of democratic-controlled conspiracy that you get the sense they hope involves hillary clinton in a way that will make it hard for her to run for president. so, darrell issa, sitting in his chairman position at that hearing, he turned toward the democratic side of the room, the side of the room where the democrats sit, and he took this picture from his vantage point. and the

and they don't fall on deaf ears for the activists based in the republican party. if you are about ted cruz and you care about yourself interest here. this is great politics. because, you know, he is, he is rising at the expense of the party. at the expense of the congressional brand. i think what's important to remember as you watch this play out. so many republicans pointed out by governor dean. get driven off the cliff by this stuff. we have given up five u.s. senate seats over the last two election cycles. by the nomination of the tea party crazies. by any one of the number of states. it's not clear if we won't add to the count as we move forward into 2014. or maybe lose some more as we follow that version of the tactics here. >> steve, can you steam out the cruz presidential campaign after iowa? how far does this get him in a presidential, republican presidential primary? >> look, what has always driven the ballot in a republican presidential primary is electability. most conservative person seen as being able to within a general election secures the nomination

by the way, i also think it's a mistake for the republican party to assume that everybody age 18 will immediately vote republican because they realize they're never going to get their social security checks. that is not a winning argument. >> host: here's an e-mail from an 80-year-old woman, i believe. mr. shapiro, please talk more slowly. [laughter] i'm 80, come from the totally opposite viewpoint but love the way you think. we are more alike than our modern society would acknowledge. have you been accused of talking fast? >> guest: oh, god, yeah. i mean, that's never stopped. everyone in my family talks quickly. i've tried to slow it down, i've tried valium -- [laughter] but unless there's alcohol in this cup, not much i can do about it. i apologize. i'll try to slow down. i've had that criticism before. >> host: elaine's in sun city, california. hi, elaine. >> caller: hello. thank you, ben, you're a breath of fresh air. i wholeheartedly agree about barack obama being the first fully media-trained president, and in that light i think he golfs and plays cards and such so that people

, even in today's republican party, jesse helms is not the model they want tollow. and so one assumes he has to walk that back in some way and if he doesn't, it takes the party in a direction that is going to make it smaller, wider, more regional, and ultimately less relevant to the political life of the country. >> that's where it is going. always, great to have you with us. thank you so much. >> great to be here. >> putin's op-ed, we'll dig through the russian president's "new york times" column. still to come, chris christie heads into the front of the class in toned's pretenders. next i am taking your questions. ask ed live, my favorite segment coming up next. wisest kid in the whole world? we need a new recipe. hmmm. let us consult the scroll of infinite deliciousness. ♪ oh! perfect. [ wisest kid ] campbell's has the recipes kids love. like easy chicken and cheese enchiladas. so good! can i keep this? you already have it at campbellskitchen.com. nice. [ blows ] [ gong ] m'm! m'm! good! always go the extra mile. to treat my low testosterone, i did my resear

the vast majority of republicans in the party is on this very same page with this wacko bird. ne seems to forget that 228 house republicans voted for cruz's plan to fund the government while defunding obamacare. how many? 228. those 228 republican congressmen, congressional members, they're no better than ted cruz. it's just that ted cruz is the one standing up doing the talking. and let's not let the republicans fool you. they're from the same flock, they're from the same ideology. they're just acting it out just a little bit differently. they're on the same page. and it's just not in the house. a lot of republicans in the senate are caving to cruz. this is what senate minority leader mitch mcconnell had to say tuesday about the house bill. >> we're moving forward to not only invoc closure on a motion to proceed on a house passed bill that defunds obamacare, that does not raise taxes. and that respects the top line from the budget control act. cloture will be inn voekd on the bill. >> mcconnell and other members of the caucus are on the same page. they're having lunch together

. >> republicans in the house have been more concerned with appeasing their party than working to strengthen the economy and middle class. >> despite republicans put on a united front insisting any government shutdown would be the fault of senate disms. their logic, they not willing to delay makes them the party of compromise. >> i would repeal the law, get rid completely of the law. all we're asking for in the house of representatives is a one-year delay. >> we continue to put ideas there just like last night. you know, you don't want to defund it, lets go at delaying. >> what the house of representatives has done is a step removed from defunding. it's delaying it. that's the essence of a compromise. >> we've offered a new compromise. our new compromise is not getting arrived his signature achievement but delaying it. >> see how that works? "morning joe," chuck schumer was unimpressed. >> they are compromise because they are not eliminating it but delaying. we're compromising, instead of chopping off one arm, we'll chop off both arms. aren't we great. >> all eyes on speaker boehner. in two

if there are 118 of them, i think there is a good chance there will be. >> what does the republican partyke across the aisle? you have been there a number of years, is the rather than party still the party of john mccain and people like that? >> well, cruz -- cruz and paul have a huge influence. not themselves, personally so much. but you know, the sort of right wing machine that threatens every republican with a primary who doesn't go along. and your typical office-holder says why should i bother with the primary, i may as well go alone? what has happened in the last six months i think increased by what happened today is there are many mainstream republicans who say enough already. he is not helping our party win elections. he is not helping our party gain converts, he is not helping our country. so i think you find the irony that cruise and demint and the foundation, they are still conservative of this mainstream wing, but they're not fanatical, certain they're right. >> we spent years trying to divert the catastrophe. do the people on the right know the problems if they default? >> i d

we have a divide in the republican party. rand paul, really bringing along a lot of younger conservatives in an idea that's a lot more isolationist than a traditional republican sort of policy view and so i thought maybe the republican party would split apart and then reorganize around some sort of ideological breakup. the fact that it's happening over a tactic, i think has surprised a lot of people. the fact that it has happened over whether or not you participate in the job that you ran for. this is about whether or not you participate as a united states senator, whether or not you parse pate as a member of congress. this is about whether you participate in governing this country or blow it up. >> not just over a tactic. they chose to make it over obama care and whether in a sense you want to blow it up over that -- >> we agree. the republicans are not divided in their opposition to obama care. >> to what's going to happen and how we get out of this mess, i think once the government shuts down, there will be negotiations of

long treetops' the more people around the country, not in the republican leadership but the republican party is sending a message to the other side of capitol hill, john boehner, your days in that job are numbered because more republicans agree with me. i am speaking as if i am ted roux, then agree with you. stuart: when he shuts down the government -- judge napolitano: shutting down the senate people will be -- stuart: the republicans shutting down the government whether it is -- doesn't matter. judge napolitano: i don't think they care if they can remove the john mccain/mitt romney/john boehner spineless leadership they have in congress and replace it with people like tom graves in the house of representatives or ted crews in the senate. another thing about senator cruise, wait until you see how much money pours into his campaign coffers as a result of this. when john mccain called him up wacko bird three months ago in two days -- in two days without asking, $1 million, unsolicited 40 to the senator's reelection campaign. he has three years before he has to run for reelection, more than en