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and, stephen, rfk jr.'s, you know, vote in the senate finance committee really does hinge on that exchange with senator bill cassidy, who is, by the way, also a doctor. he had some pointed questions about vaccines during the hearing last week, among other things. do you think kennedy, um, managed himself well with cassidy? and if he didn't, is that an indicator that, you know, cassidy is going to be a no vote? >> well, i don't think he managed himself well with cassidy. like sophia said, there were some sort of pointed interactions that i think kennedy, uh, you know, fell under the bar that that cassidy and others wanted him to pass very clearly stating that vaccines don't cause autism. it's just something that kennedy was not willing to do on capitol hill last week in front of the cameras. now, the important thing to remember for cassidy, not only is he a doctor, he's the chairman of the top health committee in the senate. he also is up for reelection in 2026. so he is juggling the the the political need t

so i will be a "yes" on rfk jr., tulsi gabbard, and kash patel knocked it out of the park.rossfire hurricane. he's going to go in and clean the fbi out to make sure it is never abused like it was in the past, and crossfire hurricane was one of the saddest, most dangerous chapters in fbi history. he's the guy who helped expose it and he will be the solution, not the problem, when it comes to the fbi. >> shannon: you know that much of what he faced in questioning was about retribution, about what he's going to deal with in the fbi. he's not there yet, that my colleagues at foxnews.com report that acting attorney general neil bove sent a memo friday evening directing him to terminate eight fbi employees and identify all current and former bureau personnel assigned to january 6th and hamas cases for an internal review. senator blumenthal, your colleague, says "i'm appalled by this vile retaliation for agencies that hold a candle of people who stabbed cops with flagpoles and crushed officers until they broke bones. the sounds from my republican colleagues is disgusting and deafe

. >> reporter: consider consternation over rfk jr. are issues, man, um -- ultra-processed food, obesity, we're simpatico. >> reporter: but cassidy's also a doctor. he worries about a kennedy's past opposition to vaccines. >> aye been struggling with your nomination. >> reporter: maine's susan collins could be a swing vote on tulsi gabbard. >> i have not made a final decision. she responded well to my questions. >> reporter: democrats doubted whether gabbard would protect the nation's secrets after he lauded one of the biggest raiders of american intelligence. >> she couldn't call edward snowden a traitor. what message would that send to allies around the world? >> reporter: kash patel is likely the easiest to confirm if republicans stick together. also up for vote soon, chris wright for secretary of energy and doug collins to run the rah v.a. both should score bipartisan support. griff? griff: chad pergram live on the hill, thank you. >>> well, for more on the confirmation hearing, let's bring in today's political panel. with us now,

and rfk jr. and tulsi gabbard left their hearings without full throated support from key republican swing votes that they will need in order to get their jobs. there are still plenty of people putting money on them being confirmed, but there are some real questions. i mean, let me just play bill cassidy here. he's talking about rfk jr.. >> my concern is that if there's any false note, any undermining of a mama's trust in vaccines, another person will die from a vaccine preventable disease. and that is why i've been struggling with your nomination. >> he's a doctor. so in a way, this makes sense. but a lot of things don't usually make sense in trumpland, which is where we are. >> well, he did a beautiful questioning of rfk jr.. a much better, i thought, than bernie sanders, who got all red in the face and started sort of spittle flying absolutely everywhere. i thought cassidy did a forensic job of taking his arguments apart one by one. we know he's a terrible influence on the science of medicine a

cnn reporter elena treene has more on the campaign to get rfk jr. and tulsi gabbard confirmed. >> well, victor and amber, we are learning that the president's allies, including vice president jd vance, are making calls to lawmakers trying to shore up support for both robert f. kennedy jr. as well as tulsi gabbard. now, we know that both rfk jr. and gabbard had really tough confirmation hearings this week. both of them faced very sharp questioning from not only democrats, but also republicans, and faced the most direct skepticism thus far that we've seen of any of donald trump's cabinet nominees. now, gabbard in particular, i'm told, is the one that they are the most concerned about. they meaning white house officials and those working to help get her confirmed. they believe that some of her answers during her hearings, particularly as it related to edward snowden and whether she believed his actions were traitorous. they argued that that could be an obstacle to her getting a vote on the senate floor, and ultimately confirmed. of course, snowden is a

as we just saw a sample of that rfk jr.. grilled by democrats and republicans who tried to establish that he's not qualified, that he lacks basic knowledge of some distinctions, like the differences between medicare and medicaid, for example. well, all of that cripple his chances. >> it is certainly holding him back at this moment. i think it's too soon to say it will cripple it, certainly among democrats. i think it's going to be hard for him to find any support among democrats, particularly on the finance committee. ron wyden, who is the top democrat on the finance committee, has already said that he doesn't expect any democratic votes for him on that panel. so that does go back to the point where bill cassidy, a republican on that panel and the chair of the health committee that had the other hearing his vote, is very important in terms of advancing him to the floor and then on the floor. then there are several other republicans to watch. if he makes it that far, as well as some democrats who may or may not vote for him.

but it's very clear two people are in trouble right now rfk jr.. and tulsi gabbard, can they get the votes to be confirmed? >> i think both of those nominees are in the toughest spot in terms of getting through. we did have questions about hegseth. he was able to eke it out, but he also had this different media and maga backing that was pushing him through and sort of bullying some of the senators who had questions and pause to get him through what i thought was really interesting about tulsi and rfk jr. was that they both refused to pull back on two key points. tulsi was gabbard was asked repeatedly whether she thought edward snowden was a traitor and she refused to say it. she tried to distance herself. >> she said he broke the law but didn't say go that far. >> and she would. but she did not make a clean cut and was repeatedly asked. and when republican senators walked out, you had todd young expressing concern. you had senator lankford expressing concern. and so if she loses one, she's in trouble getting out of committee. but then on the other

but then on the other side, you have rfk jr.. who really kind of would not say that he he would accept the information that vaccines cause autism. and he was asked repeatedly, there is a ton of literature peer reviewed. >> for decades. >> for decades that show that they do not. but he said, if you show me proof, i'd be willing to accept it, even though that proof is already out there. >> yeah, and that hedging really raised some concerns. listen to how bill cassidy said after the hearing. and also susan collins, who sits on the key committee, the intelligence committee, considering tulsi gabbard's nomination. >> my concern is that if there's any false note, any undermining of a mama's trust in vaccines, another person will die from a vaccine preventable disease. and that is why i've been struggling with your nomination. >> do you want to weigh in on tulsi? >> i need. >> to review. >> the entire hearing. >> the jury's out. >> that's. >> that's correct. >> i want. >> to make a careful decision. >> the challenge is both of these two

one last story about rfk jr. recently, his cousin caroline kennedy wrote a letter to the senate labeling rfk as a predator. in the long, scathing letter she writes, quote, he enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens and mice in a blender to feed his hawks. it was often a perverse scene of despair and violence, end quote. by the way, i haven't actually touched on the stuff that rfk could do that would actually jeopardize lives because he still still appears to be a vaccine skeptic. the list of bizarre grievances against trump's cabinet choices goes on. there's kash patel, the fbi pick who wants to dismantle the fbi. or tulsi gabbard, the pick for director of national intelligence who's defended some of our biggest foreign adversaries and thinks the us and nato might be to blame for russia's invasion of ukraine. these are the people who are likely going to represent the united states on the world stage for the next four years. i mean, if this were written as an episode of veep or the office, the producers would

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>> so you mentioned that two there with rfk jr. i do think he poses a great risk to the public health of people throughout the country because of his conspiracy theories on vaccines. i'm proud to represent maryland. we're home to the nih and the fda. these are people who work every day to try to develop treatments and cures to diseases that impact the country, including vaccines. and rfk s spread of misinformation will put american lives at risk. i'm glad you mentioned russ vote because he's gotten less attention. probably because republicans will vote for him. as you said, we boycotted the voting session in committee because the chairman of the committee, senator lindsey graham, refused to conduct the hearing and the voting session in public. we think it's important that people know who russ vote is and what he will do. so of all these nominees, he can be the most dangerous because he's at the command and control center of every agency's budget, right. so this is an office within the executive branch of the office of the president

where where rfk jr. >> we do know. >> that cassidy. >> has significant issues. >> he raised those. >> and we do know. >> that other senators. >> have significant issues. everything from. financial disclosures, potential. >> conflicts of interest when. >> it comes to finances. his, you know, past comments on. >> vaccines and. his inability. >> to. >> really explain. >> what. medicaid and medicare does and. >> answer questions. >> on that, which is. >> going to be a huge part. >> of that job. >> should he be confirmed? >> huge. let's move from that one to fbi director nominee kash patel, shocking some senators with the degree to which he departed from the maga flamethrower persona that he has exhibited for years. what was the reaction to him denying comments he's made on video from both sides of the aisle? the reaction, right? >> i mean. >> democrats were. >> just taken aback. >> by how. overt it seemed to be. you know, they're quoting. >> him and. >> saying, this is what you said. >> then why. >> are you

you had rfk jr claiming he's not an anti-vaxxer.ash patel saying the fbi would not take retributive actions under his watch. and tulsi gabbard pushed back on these claims that she'd be soft on russia. do you think that is enough to give republicans kind of cover or permission to vote for them, or are there 1 or 2 that you think may not make it through this process? >> yeah, it's really interesting. you know, you listen to their questions, but the excuse me, their answers, but the questions that republican senators ask is, i think, much more telling. if you remember back to the pete hegseth hearing, republican after republican was there to basically defend him and toss him softball questions. contrast that with tulsi gabbard. there were not a lot of people on that on that panel looking to make it easier on her, and they were asking her some really tough questions. they were not they were not trying to create a glide path for her. so if there's anyone in that, those nominees that i think should be worried, it's absolutely her. kash pa

a hs secretary nominee rfk jr.ll earlier today facing a barrage of questions by the usual self-serving clowns. of course by now you have seen all the best moments play on repeat. here is what you missed. are favorite mama dov bernie sanders arguing about onesies. >> you have started a group called the children's health defense. right now as i understand it on our website they are selling what is called onesies. clothing for babies. one of them is unafraid to. next one they are sold for $26 apiece by the way. next one is no vax no problem. or you supportive of vaccines? >> i'm supported of vaccines. >> the onesies? >> i'm supported of vaccines i want good science. >> but you will not tell the organization not to continue selling the onesies of? >> greg: answer the question are you supportive of onesies at? >> can't handle the truth! i will order the onesies and i will do it again! >> greg: did you ever see that again. support the onesies, yes or no? >> i support both of them! >> you did spit on me. it did hit me if

host: what were your takeaways when you heard rfk jr. testifying about vaccines and his past statements on vaccines? guest: he says he is not anti-vaccine and that he just wants vaccines to be safe but his record is unchallenged. his record is clear that he has spent his whole adult lifetime disparaging vaccines. he said that vaccines are not safe, not effective. he has filed motions to get vaccines pulled from the market. he even had the hubris to try to pull the covid vaccine during the middle of the outbreak when people were dying every day. his statements about not being anti-vaccine are disingenuous. host: if not robert kennedy, then for this job is there a high-profile republican that you would like the president to nominate instead? who could do the job? guest: anybody that i say, they will not get the job. bobby gentle, bob redfield who used to run the cdc. those are highly qualified republicans who know health policy. those are people who have good clinical skills or good health policy skills. this is not against people on a par

we watched what they kid to rfk jr.aw all these leftist senators who have pocketed millions and millions of dollars from big pharma and pharmaceutical lobbying and all of that, they've made so much money, and the way that they react ad to to the thought, the mere if idea of rfk jr. being nominated also, it was the ridiculous. it was a bunch of political theatrics, and i hope that every single person that donald trump has nominated, that they will be successful, that they will be confirmed and we can move our country forward. we have a lot of work to do, and there's no time to waste. jon: i saw that, i believe it was an instagram that you put out after the raid on friday. good stuff. >> uh-huh. jon: congresswoman nancy mace, republican of south carolina, thank you. >>> and in our next hour, we will have reaction from canada with british columbia premier david ebbe. >> it went down last night. a backup system was activated. as of right now, the lead system is online and working. this is a system where pilots download thei

we're watching rfk jr. and there are republicans who have real concerns. there's a there's a republican senator who's a doctor who thinks rfk jr is just wrong about vaccines, but they're all being threatened with primaries. when you and your brother had to talk about going public, about donald trump's phone call to vladimir zelensky and holding withholding power, i'm pretty sure the two of you, he was in your office, he came to your office. and i'm pretty sure the two of you both knew you were going to lose your careers over this. >> well, look, we had a duty. we're active duty army officers. we had a duty. we were. we had taken an oath to the constitution, and we performed our duty. our jobs were not as important as our oath to the constitution and the american people. and, you know, when you think about the nominees that we've seen this week, is there one quality? is their loyalty to the president of the united states? it's not experience. it's not judgment, it's not capability. and that's completely reversed from what it should be. these people are bein

health secretary nominee rfk jr. he has confirmed, substance abuse will be a priority. the questions are being raised about some small pouches he has been popping in his mouth during his confirmation hearing. n mercogliano explain's what they are. >> what did bobby kennedy popped into his mouth during a senate confirmation hearing? eagle-eyed viewers say it's zinn, and nicotine product that gives users a jolt of energy. a look, when we slo-mo the video, you can make out the container of zinn and his hand. also photographed in october buying it in los angeles. the small flavor packets are loaded with nicotine. you tap the packet inside your mouth, i bought this container at a convenience store in new york city today. two weeks ago the fda offered zyn to help smokers quit smoking. ny professionals think it's being abused. the product became a political football during the presidential campaign. nald trump met zyn loving fans. governor tim walz put in 95% tax on zyn. we need to get that removed, president trump. >> and

let me just first say, by the moment you had in the rfk jr hearing this week, and i want to talk abouttee. but i first have to start by asking you about this purge of fbi officials of all levels are law enforcement across the country that we've just seen happen this evening. yeah. >> you know, you mentioned there's a lot happening. so i would. >> be remiss if i didn't first. >> express my. >> condolences yet. >> another plane. >> crashed tonight. so much is happening, as you mentioned. regarding the fbi. i'm a former prosecutor. >> i know. >> so i spent 13 years. >> working in. >> courtrooms and i worked alongside many of. >> our the best and. >> brightest in the law enforcement community. >> including the fbi. >> and as you mentioned, these. >> are in so many cases. >> apolitical civil servants. >> who are serving. >> our country. >> and what. >> we're seeing. >> now is really it's devastating. >> it's devastating. >> it's not just the fbi. >> but you can just see, really, we can't consider. >> it in a vacuum. >> the witch hunt. >> that. >> we've seen regarding. >> our federal employe

it's certainly clear that based on his comments and the overall sort of tenor of those hearings that rfk jr it doesn't mean he won't be confirmed, but it'll be tight, and the math is such as your viewers no doubt know that he can only afford to lose a handful of republicans to make it across the finish line. he's not going to get any support from the democrats. that seems very clear. if senator cassidy goes and losing two and going to make more than too many too ma going for them and going for vice president. >> urging skeptical republicans to get on board with maria bartiromo. take a listen. >> in some ways i admire that senate republicans are a little bit more free through i thinking and more independent and on the other hand the president has made his selections and the advice and consent power for the united states senate not used to block people because of one policy disagreement on one issue. you don't get to make these decisions, president trump gets to make these decisions and he already has. alicia: jeff, with that in mind, talk about tulsi gabbard because we know there was some co

there is one of the cabinet nom nominees, rfk jr., who says that the polio vaccine killed more peopleviews about that? >> well, the polio vaccine has been a huge success. >> but what about all of them? measles, mumps, i mean, chicken pox. >> oh, vaccines are critically important to health. to having normal lives. >> how important is that issue to you? you know, we're talking about things you would fight for. you're free at last. you're free to speak your mind. > well, it's no surprise that it -- it's a big deal with me. >> reporter: so what will mitch do now? will he lead an opposition to the head of his party? not likely. >> i expect to support most of what this administration is trying to accomplish. so what happened in the past is irrelevant to me. >> you said that january 6 was "evidence of donald trump's complete unfitness for office." >> i said shortly after january 6 that if he were the nominee for president i would support him. >> even if he's unfit for office? >> i'm -- i'm a republican. i don't get to decide who gets to be president. the american people do. and you have to a

>> of the three most controversial picks, patel, rfk jr.have to start from a place of them getting confirmed and work their bake. what this administration is not going to do is what they did with matt gaetz and pull the nominee back before they get a vote. they'll force every single republican senator to be accountable for this vote and vote yes or no. and that includes tulsi gabbard. there is a difference, though, in their approach, in terms of how they're encouraging or putting pressure on these senators to vote yes or r no, which a part of your reporting says, kristen. with pete hegseth, it was a very clear message to republican senators, a message sometimes sent by the president himself. at this point, we're not seeing that same level of pressure with tulsi gabbard on whether or not that leads to enough senators -- it would require four to step out and vote "no," that's something we'll probably find out this week. >> it is also a test of how the president judges those on-camera performances. for robert kennedy jr. and tulsi gabbard, the

rfk jr. is trump's nominee to run health and human services.d a bruising round of hearings after years of challenging vaccine safety. he now says he is supportive of vaccines, and in a major reversal, kennedy says if confirmed, he will divest his financial stake in an ongoing lawsuit against a vaccine maker. tulsi gabbard is trump's pick to be the director of national intelligence. her confirmation is in doubt after being pressed by both democrats and republicans. lawmakers are focussing on her apparent support of edward snowden, the former intelligence contractor who took more than 1 million classified documents. gabbard refusing to say whether he is a traitor. all three still have to be approved by the committees they've met with before going to the entire senate for a final vote. whit? >> whit: all right, perry russom for us. thank you. this week, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is headed to the u.s. for a white house meeting with president trump. this follows the latest hostage prisoner swap between israel and hamas which included

but poor doctor poland for years has been telling anybody who will listen that rfk jr is completely, wrong about his work. doctor poland says rfk is wildly misrepresenting his research. doctor poland says, quote, we do not have a study that shows african americans need half the vaccine dose. we do not have a study that shows african american children are being overdosed. and please, for the love of god, stop citing my work in your weird anti-vaccine race science theories. get my name out of your mouth, senator. also, brooks told robert f kennedy jr today that his assertions are dangerous, that she'll be voting against his nomination. but today's third hearing was for the trump cabinet nominee, who's generally seen as having the greatest danger of not being confirmed. the third one was the hearing for former democratic congresswoman tulsi gabbard. he's trump's nominee to be director of national intelligence, which i still can't believe anytime i say it when it comes to red flags in a candidate's biography, senators are really spoiled for choice. with miss gabbard, they could have held

and we have to continue to try to expand that aperture all the way down from tulsi gabbard to rfk jr.it's interesting, i don't know if it matters, but it's notable is that trump and the democrats are operating and moving around rooms as though trump won in a landslide. trump won by the narrowest margin in history. and the things he's done in the last seven days are unpopular. let me read this to you from reuters. quote, trump's approval rating slipped after his first week back in the oval office, during which he issued a slew of executive orders, according to a poll published tuesday. the reuters poll shows that 45% of participants approve of trump's actions so far. trump's disapproval rating shot up by seven percentage points from 39% to 46% of survey takers who were displeased with his new measures. do you know what is most unpopular? that he's spent the most capital doing, seeking out revenge against his perceived enemies? and do you know what enemy perceived enemy is the most popular generals. i mean, not that you have to hope that that sort of his own political survival instincts

i think these votes on cabinet members coming up, whether it's rfk jr.r kash patel, below cabinet, but a very important job at the fbi, but are these people they're going to confirm? they're going to say, okay. we're going to turn over the national security -- i thought the patel hearing was very interesting. he's saying all this is going to be protected once he's there. well, what they're doing is doing all the dirty work before he gets there. i mean, let's -- we're not stupid. we see what's happening here. they're having other people do it for him, and then having him come in and not have to take responsibility for it. the idea there's not communication going on, george, between the guy you've designated to be the head of the fbi for the next ten years and the people doing this operation as acting members of leadership and justice, is ridiculous. of course, they are. the president is the one orchestrating this. i thought the most interesting answer in the hearing as you when cory booker asked kash patel, have you had any conversation with the president

fbi director nominee kash patel, who fielded questions about a retribution and enemies list rfk jr.. trump's nominee to be the next secretary of health and human services seemed to struggle a bit when answering a basic question about medicare. three nominees who could potentially be in charge of our security and health. they all took a backseat to a torrent of unproven rhetoric and speculation. that night, president trump's unfounded speculation about dei was welcomed on fox news. and no doubt, many americans working jobs with limited bandwidth to verify their information. they went to bed thinking 67 people died because of a government initiative which they think discriminates against whites and had caused some unfit minority to get hired for a job, resulting in negligence and costing lives. i'm too cynical to accept coincidence. i think president trump wanted to own the news cycle like he wants to own every news cycle, and this time he sought the added political benefit of raising questions over whether a minority was at fault for the dc catastrophe. it brings me to today's poll qu

and then when it comes to gabbard and rfk jr. i think it's a package. either they'll both pass or.ne thing that we have to look at right now is folks are looking at these positions in light of. >> how poorly. >> donald trump has handled his governmental operation, meaning that that memo that went out and said, we're going to freeze funding except for individuals, they couldn't get it right. it shows that the trump administration really has no idea how government works. they know how to get put out their agenda and how to do retribution really well, but they don't know how government functions. and i don't know that the senators want to put americans health or our security in shape and look for different senators to be against either of those candidates. okay. so you think those two are packaged? last word to you, david. who do you think has the most trouble? >> gabbard. look, we saw with her, she lost murkowski, collins and mcconnell. is there one more probably on gabbard because of how she handled some of those questions? i think the other two right now, it's all vote counting. it

rfk jr, donald trump's pick for secretary of health, struggled to answer basic questions about medicare? he's going to have to oversee. you know, let's take a listen. >> there is serious. >> discussion of. massive cuts to. >> medicaid. >> which will have devastating. harms on children, people in. >> nursing homes. >> all i am asking. >> you. if that proposal. >> goes through, will. >> you say, hey, you're not making. >> keeping america. >> healthy by throwing. >> children off. >> of health care? >> senator, i haven't seen any of. >> the. >> congressional proposals. >> i can only tell you what president trump. >> has told me. >> which is that he wants me to make medicaid, medicare. and obamacare better. >> well, if you haven't. >> seen those proposals, i. suggest you go to. >> any newspaper. they're there. >> how do you propose that we integrate those programs? does medicare pay more medicare, pay less medicaid, pay more, medicaid, pay less? how do we do that? well. the i'm. >> not exactly. >> sure because i'm not in their. >> i referenced the menagerie of misfits. it continues with this