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you're seeing this divide between rick scott and mcconnell on a very public stage here. seen senator mike lee even rick scott trying to tailor those comments they made about social security and medicare in the past to try to shift the blame here and shift the focus, but it's clearly not working. because it's not just president biden. i asked majority leader schumer last week why democrats keep talking about the fact that this is something that's on the table when clearly mccarthy and mcconnell have said many times it's not, and he said it's because of the fringe, the maga republicans. he talked about the 20 holdouts or so in the house that he fears could bring this top of the agenda again. of course both sides hear, democrats and republicans do agree that these programs need reforms in order for them to be solvent after 2035. there's not enough time before the election year for both of them to sit down, come together and figure out what those reforms logically could be. a very tense moment here, and it makes sense politically why there's such a lift. >> is part of the pr

rick scott did propose it. did the truth is what mcconnell said, rick scott proposed it but most republicans have distanced themselveslike, owe're th leaders of the party in our representative chambers. we are against this. i think it's important to note that. we heard republicans say that. i will say, you know, to be fair to rick scott, his senior advisor to him in responding to mcconnell said rick scott knows how to win florida a hell of a lot better than mitch mcconnell does. they can keep parroting democratic lies. he won't stop fighting for democratic principles. he is standing by this plan. when i asked him if it was a mistake he said, no, he didn't think it was a mistake to propose it. more importantly, jake, you have a very important -- >> who knows how to win on sunday, right? >> who are you rooting for? >> the green tie. i don't know. we can't tell. >> so there is -- this is my eagles tie. and this is from the last time they won the super bowl. and we are looking forward to another victory this sunday. the beloved philadelphia eagles. i know we are underdogs against the kansas city chiefs for whom my wife r

it is the state with more older people than any state in america. >> rick scott decided to give it right back to mcconnellmed to be tamped-down feud is out in the open. >> i think that serves rick scott's interest, and not mitch mcconnell's. mitch mcconnell doesn't say what he doesn't want to say, when he says something like this, this is well thought out -- >> everything is intentional. >> everything is intentional, and he means it. i don't think it's about the leadership race, and i think it's a warning to anybody else. guys, i know what i am doing and i want to be back in the majority. if you think you have a plan, bring it to me or keep it to yourself. rick scott gets talked about this which is good for rick scott. and mitch mcconnell would like for him to quietly sit back at his desk. >> i want to read what scott said back. if we're going to mcconnell rip scott. he's always backed up biden, so this is what he's doing, backing up biden again and doesn't believe we ought to have a plan. it seems as if this will help the white house continue to continue to find a wedge. >> absolutely. rick scott is a gi

mitch mcconnell, rick scott, they kind of gone back and forth on candidate quality. nnell, today, responded to rick scott in this radio interview. watch. >> it's just a bad idea. i think it will be a challenge for him to deal with this in his own reelection in florida, a state with more elderly people than any other state in america. >> so, i feel like there's a little bad blood, excuse, me there between the two gentlemen in the midterm. what are the chances those comments actually make a difference? >> well, i mean, there's blood on the floor there. and mitch mcconnell just bounced him off of a committee that he wanted. and, listen, if you could bet on politics in vegas, i would bet on mitch mcconnell every single time. so, mitch mcconnell's a very smart, savvy strategist and he knows how bad really -- well, he knows that rick's cart a large response is the fact that he's not the senate majority leader. >> would you go after, next juanita? you know he went after rick scott today in florida. senator mike lee of utah had his moment the other night, during the state of

said some republicans wanted to sunset social security and medicare which is what rick scott proposed. mitch mcconnellhat's not a republican plan, that's a rick scott plan. but we should note that when republican national committee chair ronna mcdaniel, when it was released from rick scott, she praised it. she said, quote, republicans like senator rick scott have real solutions to put us back on track. republicans are offering a clear plan to protect and reinvigorate the america we know and love. did none of these people read the plan? >> well, mitch mcconnell read it. to be fair, from the very beginning mcconnell was like this is going in the trash can. he really had no interest in this plan. that's part of the reason for the bad blood between these two men. he really dismissed it out of hand and knew how damaging it would be before the midterms. this is part two of a strategy -- well, i guess you could call it a strategy on rick scott's part to put out a plan that he thought was great. the democrats immediately seized on and ran on. they ran on this in 2022 as well as the last midterm cycle and foun

that's mitch mcconnell at the conference. and rick scott also spoke at that press conference. clared his plan dead on arrival. fast forward state of the union this week where president joe biden basically just repeated what mitch mcconnell said, calling out scott's plan, using it to make republicans say, on live television, the medicare and social security are off the table for cats. now rick scott is trapped. no one from his parties coming to help. and because he basically handed joe biden democrats the perfect ammunition against republicans. scots laymantown's to defend himself have also failed including publishing a tweet that says he proposed exactly what biden said, and now joe biden is just twisting the knife, and biden -- in tampa florida, scott's home to a state, every seat in the audience had a brochure on it showing rick scott's plan. and today, when asked about biden's speech, state of the union speech, leader caught mcconnell made some remarks which for him were about is explicit and cutting as you can get. >> well, unfortunately that was the scott plan. that's not

. >> so, tara, mitch mcconnell went out of his way to suggest rick scott might be in trouble in his ownat's mitch mcconnell. there is no love lost between these two men these days. is rick scott, vulnerable, in your view, in next year's election in florida? is that as he that democrats could potentially pick up because of the social security and medicare issue, in an election where senate democrats are supposed to be on the defensive in 2024? >> it is going to be tough. it does create an area of vulnerability for him. he was vulnerable going in as governor in 2018 against bill nelson, because, let's not forget, that senator scott was presided over one of the largest medicare fraud cases in the country. the company that he ran had a 1.7 billion dollar fine against him for medicare fraud -- >> yes -- >> which, if that did not upset seniors in florida enough to deny him a senate seat in florida -- >> true -- >> i'm not sure if that will have enough of effect in 2024 because of how far to the right florida has become. and that's a whole different segment about how democrats have missed oppo

mcconnell says rick scott is on his own in wanting to sunset social security and medicare in five years to vote to reauthorize the programs. mcconnell says he and speaker mccarthy are on the same page and that social security and medicare are not to be touched and that scott's plan is, quote, just a bad idea. this, of course, an issue that president biden has hammered republicans on this week. >> at the white house last hour, president biden pouncing on the division, saying he is glad republicans and him agree on entitlement spending. >> we had somewhat of a debate in the state of the union. but i was glad to see everybody says we're not going to cut social security and medicare. >> joining me now, ali vitali. senator scott is hitting back. what's he saying? >> that's right. it keeps going, this rift we have seen coming over the course of the last year between mcconnell and scott. scott today at an event in florida saying that, you know, this is his words, mcconnell has always sort of backed up biden and that's what he is doing. he is backing up biden again. he doesn't believe that we o

rick scott. he tried to run to become the majority leader. he failed. mitch mcconnelloff this committee because of the bid to oust him. if you come at the king you best not miss. to quote "the wire." mitch mcconnell is good at politics. like him or not he knows how to do this. this is a terrible idea hung around the republicans and the white house is gleeful to do it. the president held up that brochure and showed the audience. yesterday in florida a copy of that brochure left at every seat and every florida senior to read. this is going to be even as we heard state of the union republicans a lot them shouted we won't touch social security and medicare. president biden will say, do you believe them? i have it in black and white that's what they want to do and they feel like this is a fantastic issue for them. right now before the republicans get a nominee rick scott and the jim jordan types in the house, the democrats in the white house, will paint them. this is the republican party right now. rick scott, jim jordan, marjorie taylor greene. >>> coming up my conversatio

you have to do the rick scott plan in order to get the debt ceiling, which is blatantly dishonest. mcconnellrrect in saying no other republican wants to do this. why did rick scott release a new plan today? his new plan on social security. because finally they realized this is a losing battle. he's already dead on this hill. we're going to go fight on another hill. mcconnell is right. no republicans want to do this. they're not going to do it. if rick scott wants to go out and campaign on it, that's his business. but mcconnell's job is to defend his conference. and that's what he's doing here. >> thanks to all. appreciate it. >>> next, the congressman who has lied incessantly about his past. once charged with theft in an alleged scam involving amish dog breeders. the george santos saga widens. >> plus exclusive new video of a top putin foe whose lawyer says he's being poisoned and slowly killed while in prison. the attorney for the former president of georgia is my guest. und in the name itself. rent - a a - car. yoyou don't want a friend. you want the friend. you don't want a job. you want

not embracing this plan is one reason why the party took a drubbing and the senate races mcconnell defeated rick scott but that was the first challenge to his leadership he's faced as he became the longest serving party leader in senate history but real tension between these two men as their disagreement still is pretty intense heading into the next election cycle. >> the saga continues with that david. no surprise the white house is chiming in saying scott's updated plan acknowledges quote they have been attempting to put medicare and social security on the chopping block. so did scott just hand biden a victory? >> well, biden clearly scored a victory with this talking point. look at what scott did. he had to cut and run on this particular issue but now, what you see is scott is trying to sort of take away that victory in the white house is saying we don't care that he now no longer says or has this exception for medicare and social security. we're still going to proceed with hammering on this because he did at one time propose this and he's owning up to the fact that he did not have this excep

to do, but if you're explaining, you're sort of losing, i think. >> mitch mcconnell views this and this feud with him and rickoing on for quite some time, and it's very, very heated, by the way, behind the scenes. aides to both camps are very agitated by all of it, and mcconnell views this as a massive unforced error. i mean, why do this? why put his party in this position when clearly the mood of the country, especially in recent years, has been so incredibly populist? i mean, this is something that helped donald trump win the white house. this has been an area -- i mean, when biden said at the state of the union, let's stand up for seniors, it was one of the few times when everybody in the room stood up. this is why. >> and it's also comes at a time when they're trying to raise the debt ceiling right now, and this could be a part of the negotiating tactics on the part of the president in dealing with the new house speaker. >> no doubt about it. i think nia was spot on. there is a short-term political benefit here because of the coming weeks and months of this debt ceiling battle, and so this is an attempt t

. >> i have to play this mitch mcconnell takedown because i'm trying to figure out how much of this is about republican politics and how much >> i think that serves rickt, and not mitch mcconnell's. mitch mcconnell doesn't say what he doesn't want to say, when he says something like this, this is well thought out -- >> everything is intentional >> everything is intentional, and he means it. i don't think it's about the leadership race, and i think it's a warning to anybody else, guys, i know what i am doing and i want to be back in the majority if you think you have a plan, bring it to me or keep it to yourself rick scott gets talked about this which is good for rick scott, and mitch mcconnell would like for him to quietly sit back at his desk. >> i want to read what scott said back. he's always backed up biden, so this is what he's doing, backing up biden again and doesn't believe we ought to have a plan. it seems as if this will help the white house continue to create that wedge. >> rick scott is a gift to the white house, and a thorn in the side of mcconnell that wants to win back the ma skjority, so th feud between mcconnell and scott goes back to

taking on florida senator rick scott, who had introduced unveiled a plan that would sun sit all federal legislation, including social security and medicare. now, senator mitch mcconnell did not see that as a winning argument for republicans, tried to shoot it down initially and today senator rick scott was on our air repeatedly right to defend himself, saying that he does not intend to cut those programs. this is something that the white house ultimately believes will play into their favor. it's also interesting, the president didn't just argue about social security and medicare, he was also talking about trying to lower prescription drug costs and health care costs. that's something that could also resonate with older voters. you also can't deny the two giant republican elephants who are in the room in the state of florida, as it is home to both florida governor ron desantis, who the president did briefly mention in his remarks, and former president trump, who can serve as two of his chief republican rivals should he launch a 2024 re-election bid in the coming weeks. >> alice, let me come to you, the president obviously thinks he has a winning issue here, hanging ou

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this week mitch mcconnell made sure to distance his caucus from scott's proposal, telling a local radio show that was, quote, not a republican plan. that was the rickut mcconnell and scott were not the only two republicans airing their grievances out in the open this week. in a battle of florida man versus florida man, donald trump shared a post on truth social, acute and governor -- grooming underage students during his time as, yes, i schoolteacher. as president biden continues his post state of the union victory lap, the gop continues there in fighting, proving once again the republican party is in fact its own worst enemy. my saturday night panel is back with me. so, alaina, i will start with you this round. what did you make of president biden going on offense this week after the state of the union? could this and should this be the strategy for democrats going into 2024? >> yeah, i think it's fantastic. first of all, he was spectacular at the state of the union. as you mentioned, he pulled a real life political -- getting the republicans to basically stand up and show that they are going to keep social security and medicaid -- medicare, rathe

so mitch mcconnell hates the fact that rick scott said it. mcconnell is actually opposed to doing it. he just want somebody else's fingerprints to be on it. he wants this to happen but in a way that can't be traced back to his party. >> yeah. yeah, that makes sense, and it's that thing where you say, why so much candor from mitch mcconnell? but it may not be a trick. it's just literally, as you say, what he's lived through. professor krugman, it's always great to have you. i appreciate you making the time, sir. >> great to be on. >> great. thank you. >>> coming up later tonight, we launch our series "open mind." i told you i'm excited about it. when you look on the screen and you see presidents with their pets, why? we'll have the answer by the end of the hour. i promise it will be different than usual. >>> but speaking of different, we have these unidentified objects, airborne over our mainland. more questions today. what the pentagon is saying and why the spokesman for the president is shooting down talk of e.t. that's next. is driven by eo

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. >> remarkable, the gift republicans, protecting -- particularly rick scott and -- mitch mcconnell going on radio in his own state saying, this is rick scott's idea, not ours. we don't want anything to do with it. and there are two interesting subplots to this, alicia. first, the politics of reelection, you know, there's been a question, will democrats even try to play in florida? very expensive state in 2024. now maybe seen. maybe there's a contrasting issue that makes florida more competitive. and secondly, rick scott himself is in his own reelection cycle, and he is on air already now saying joe biden is a liar. he's already introduced new legislation in the senate to try to protect social security. rick scott is on the ropes and his home state during an election cycle. joe biden has played this brilliant lead. subsequently, it matters, because the american people around joe biden side with this one. >> yeah. i mean, that's the whole thing, right? it's about 2024 and the way that this issue to please route in 2024. we start another not gonna be able to move much through the house and

his social security and medicare hating tea party brother in arms florida senator rick scott who ticked off mitch mcconnellly, that was the scott plan. that's not a republican plan. that was a rick scott plan. i mean, it's just a bad idea. i think it will be a challenge for him to deal with this in his own re-election in florida. >> ouch. as a parting gift, mcconnell had the medicare and medicaid defrauding floridian booted from the commerce committee too. scott isn't real happy about it. he called mcconnell petty and told reporters mitch is backing up biden again. it looks like scott won't be campaigning alongside mitch in 2024 when rick scott is up for re-election. joined me now is hayes brown and jeremy peters, "new york times" correspondent and author of insurgency, how republicans lost their party and got everything they ever wanted. that means i have to start with you, jeremy. the thing about it is the mitch mcconnells of the world were willing to use the maga republicans and the tea party before them to get more power because they know white working class voters are going to vote for them and yay, t

mcconnell saying disenvow rick scott that is not our plan. talking down re-election chances in fl.mething biden-white house is going to continue on. today focussing on affordable health care act. >> he is doing it in virginia beach area, commonwealth of virginia. important to his electoral map. just about everything layers into what is important to us come next year. >> all a part of the calculation. with his push on talking about health care. when i covered his campaign 2020 talking to voters in new hampshire, a lot of them said you know what, he is associated with health care because he was vice president with obama. also his personal stories of dealing with cancer in his family. a lot of people and voters associate him with health care. great idea for the white house to use that as something to laud. >> and the chips act to help revive tech manufacturers. if you want our money to build your factory and get up and going roads and bridges, you have to give premium benefits like child care. best way to do business. >> present biden said in state of the union, this will create over

even mitch mcconnell dismissed rick scott's idea when it came out to sunset that proposal every fivers but that got him in a good back and forth with republicans. he seemed to relish it. he seen told her in that interview, he didn't expect it from a handful of those republicans. >> and sam stein, in another clip from judy's interview with the president, she asked him about the documents found in the former president's home. and until then, he's been ducking questions about that. >> i want to ask you what you said about last september, you said just possessing classified documents is totally irresponsible. so what it was totally irresponsible the fact that you had some? >> well, they've informed me not to speak of this issue to anyway try to prejudice the investigation that's goes on. one of the things that happened is, what was not done well, as they packed my offices to move them, they didn't do the kind of job that should have been done to go through every single piece of literature that's there. but i just thought the investigation, you know, will decide what's going on. and we'll

party and that we have seen become a source of tension in the party between, for example, mitch mcconnell and rickr. 80, 90% of voters do not want to see any changes to social security. they're just viewed as a guarantee and something that many americans feel like they've earned. so, you know, that was a big part of trump's success in 2016. and i think it's something that again the party has sort of realigned itself around to the point where it's become -- well, it's always been a third rail and become something that is seen as sort of untouchable. so this is going to be, i think, a live debate in the primary in the primaries this year. >> not describing it as untouchable. by the way, we're all paying into it right now. just watch your paycheck every two weeks those contributions still go in, whatever the discussions. molly ball, thank you so much. >>> still ahead, michigan democrats introducing now a wide slate of new gun safety legislation just days after a gunman killed three students at michigan state. we'll speak with state's senate majority leader who also has a daughter attending michigan s

rick scott. >> mitch mcconnell came out and said we're not doing that. rick scott distanced himself from his own proposal a couple of months later. so the dynamics are one where the president did kind of get republicans to give him a standing ovation in this moment. we did see some of these republicans eat their wheaties it was almost a back and forth and i tell you, president biden didn't seem to hate it at some points kind of engaging with the republicans in the audience >> he kept saying look it up his first speech in front of a divided congress. >> it was such an interesting moment, it's worth zeroing in on here the president has set out to set this bipartisan tone. here was the first moment where he's going to make kind of a partisan attack. and he said look, it's not all republicans, just some of you. >> almost like he apologized. >> he put a disclaimer on it he said some of you all wanting to cut medicare and social security that's when it eruperupted. republicans are saying no, that's a lie and this is where i think some of these top democrats are

there's agreement on the political potency. >> listen to mitch mcconnell really like slamming rick scottese two men do not like each other right now. >> it's clearly the rick scott plan. it is not the republican plan. it is a bad idea. i think it will be a challenge for him to deal with this in florida, a state with more elderly people than any other state in america. >> mcconnell has been around for so long and like joe biden and they know the programs are things that people vote on. if you look at the people they are older, retired citizens. i was reminded while covering the state of the union this week how long biden has been part of congress. he knows that body. he was able to message in a way to put republicans in a corner, made them clap at things maybe they weren't prepared to clap with him on. >> state of the union made him seem agile. a thing that voters give us feedback on is his age and when he was going back and forth with republicans heckling him he seemed quick on his feet. >> that is important because it is like a barrier to entry. if people are so distracted by the other

we saw this recently interesting mitch mcconnell knocking the rick scott off of a committee, knocking mike lee off a committee. basically saying scott, you lost this election and you try to go your way, and i'm getting rid of. you i think, kevin mccarthy must be able to get rid of losers. but it's impossible to do when trump has a 30% base that is holding the republican party hostage. he isn't committing to supporting the republican nominee. he is going to hold that base as hard as he can. >> and why does he maintain that base? i just keep going back to that. he lost the presidency, while he was president, he lost the midterms. why does he hold on to the base? he's got other options out there. >> i've never seen anyone quite like, him the reason comparison you might say bernie sanders had a very strong base, and when you get below a certain floor, right now donald trump has that kind of incredible loyalty. i think part of it is, it was just being said, there is this grievance, people identify with him, they see him as their champion, and they either believe that he won the last electi

opposition. >> that was senate minority leader mitch mcconnell moments after he received a challenge to his leadership position by florida senator rickor something like that? >> we'll also be joined by the new top democrat on the house intelligence committee who's calling for more information about the classified records found in the private possession of president biden and former president trump. also one day after the fed made its move, the bank of england this morning raised interest rates and now sees a much shallower recession than initially feared. andrew ross sorkin and stephanie ruhle will join us. later this hour we'll be joined by the stars of the new musical and juliet, that's combining shakespeare with pop music. >>> welcome back. it is the top of the fourth hour of "morning joe." 6:00 a.m. on the west coast, 9:00 a.m. on the east coast. willie, are you awake? >>ish, yeah. >> six more weeks of winter, willie. you and i learned that when a groundhog sees its shadow, that means six more weeks. we also have gone through the sordid history of new york city mayors and groundhogs. >> and they hurt the groundhogs. >> it's been

whatever rick scott was selling, mitch mcconnell was not buying.ot the republicans would really be for cutting entitlement spending. but it is a sign, that and a buncof other issues, how much american politics has moved. 2012, you had a lot of republicans saying we need to reform entitlements. you had a lot of republicans and democrats who were pro-globalization. let's be partners with china. on every single one of these issues, if youooked at that bidespeech, it is clearly a post trump speech. trump shifted the window of american politics. biden, a democrat, speaking in a different manner than trump does is buy american secure the , boer, we are taking on china, no more off shoring. it is a bunch of trumpy issues done with more substance, frankly. but the whole focus of american politics has shifted toward the working class and the heartland. and trump really is somewhat responsible for that shift in attention. amna: you are almost describing america first, but with a biden lens. do you seet that way? jonathan: sure, but with a heart and empathy f

take a listen to what your leader, republican leader mitch mcconnell had to say about rick scott's plan couple of days ago. >> there were no plans to raise taxes on half the american people or to sunset medicare or social security. so it's clearly the rick scott plan, it is not the republican plan. it's just a bad idea. i think it will be a challenge for him to deal with this in his own re-election in florida, a state with more elderly people than any other state in america. >> you've known senator mcconnell a long time. he doesn't criticize fellow republicans very often, let alone a comment like that about rick scott's re-election. are you worried that rick scott hurt the party with this plan and are hurting the conversation that you want to have? >> you know, we do want to continue the conversation in terms of how we make medicare, medicaid better and long-term successful. i think senator scott had an idea that he proposed. i think the vast majority of us would say that we would prefer to look at it in a different direction, one of managing it, as opposed to a discussion about having

this is why mitch mcconnell immediately disavowed this when rick scott released it before the midtermlections, because this is such an issue the democrats really can cling onto. and you've seen rick scott push back against this but it's hard to do when members of his own party were walking away from this. when biden said he expected the republicans to react like they did at the state of the union or some republicans, the white house was hoping that this would be their reaction. and it was bait. let's be real here. they got what they wanted, because they knew this would be triggers. >> despite the white house saying we couldn't have scripted it better if we tried, there may have been a little bit of scripting in there. you have reporting about biden's efforts to win back blue collar voters moving into 2024. how much is he changing his message? >> well, we heard him in the state of the union and over the last couple of days start to talk a little bit more about how these are people who feel like they were forgotten by the democratic party. and they have started to vote more republican.

called out florida republican senator rick scott for an early proposal that would allow all federal programs to expire after five years. even said a gop leader mitch mcconnell has called it, a bad idea. today, rick scott conveniently came out with a new plan. when he says will protect seniors and safeguard funding from social security. the question is, protect them from whom? rick scott himself. with that, let's get smarter with the help of our lead off panel tonight. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times, professor melissa murray of nyu law school. she was a law clerk for on the federal bench. former nomination to the supreme court. stuart stevens joins us. a veteran of the mitt romney and george w. bush for presidential campaigns. now with lincoln project. his latest book, it was all a lie, how the republican party became donald trump. all right, we have a lot to cover guys. listen, in his book, mike pence wrote about the lead up to january 6th. the hill reported, he just grabbed pressure from trump and his allies who wanted him to intervene in certifying the election. here's what mike pence told all are only sean dodd. >> i

. >> yeah, and typical by that point, for michael, mitch mcconnell went really hard after rick scott.is not a republican plan. that is a rick scott plan. obviously these two just do not like each other that much. but i am wondering if you see this is something larger. is there an ideological rift happening in the party? is it about personalities? is it a fight over the direction of the party? or so, basically to jean's point, the party moving in one direction towards protecting entitlements? >> i think they are moving in one direction, as pertaining to these particular issues. but to that broader question as it pertains to the consistency and what it means to even be a conservative, i think the parties movements had clearly distinct and different direction. john boehner is gone. you have former house speaker paul ryan, gone. mitch mcconnell is on his way out. so you are seeing this infighting regarding the intellectual-ism of, how do conservatives to themselves, and what does that definition look like when applied in the legislative process? and i think you have some of the more estab

mcconnell removes from senate panel. democrats and know ares, this is not just a partisan thing, this was rick scott and mike lee who helped at the position mitch mcconnell holds. >> it is pretty safe and 100% of cases to assume political maturations are afoot and the driving motivator. ilhan omar went out of her way to make a different case. if you strip the emotion we heard from her and aoc, she said i feel like my perspective is not wanted on capitol hill because i'm a woman of color, i am muslim and an african immigrant. strongest defense that speaker mccarthy put forward, he unseeded white men from committees for specific reasons. when it comes to governing, what juan was talking about, there is disarray on both sides of the aisle. it was a victory politically for kevin mccarthy she was unseated from this committee. >> shannon: he has to hold his caucus together. >> until the day it happened, that was up for grabs, nobody was sure he would get the votes. there were people persuaded. now it is a stronger position. >> shannon: my favorite fox news poll. best describes america today, dysfunctional family, 81%, tight-any

you're going to see, i think, mccarthy and mitch mcconnell continue to say, that's rick scott's plan. going to look to evidence from plans and proposals past, even if they're not the gop leadership, to say, don't take our word for it. here's evidence. here are the plans. >> good luck to the republicans trying to disavow that when it is there in plain black and white. that's the white house philosophy to be sure. >>> the super bowl ads can be a snapshot in time. last year's game, seemed every other ad was about crypto. this year, not one. "axios" is reporting the s.e.c. chair is cracking down on crypto in the u.s. tell us more. >> that's right. we're seeing a crackdown on crypto. the s.e.c., securities and exchange commission, the securities regulator for the u.s., starting in the last couple of recent cases, to make clear it seems both crypto, the products and services, as securities. therefore, something that's open to regulation. this is sort of a tightening of the noose for crypto in terms of rules of the road, guardrails, and a major entity, regulatory entity saying, we're coming

mitch mcconnell has a problem with it. when ricktt is saying that people are lying about his plans, he's talking about fox news and the guy that runs the senate caucus for republicans. >> as you mentioned, this is why mitch mcconnell has private and sometimes spilling into public disdain for senator rick scott, because of things like this and this plan. jen, as you watched the last couple days play out, president is now going on this 20-state, 30-event tour. you can see the contours of the next two years, can you not? his message going into the swing states, talking to workers, while some republicans light themselves on fire politically in public. >> right. first of all, there is no better fight for joe biden to be having. that rick scott tweet was a gift to no one else by joe biden. people, you know, supporting or thinking about his re-election campaign. the other thing about having him out on the trail is, having spent a year and a half working and traveling with him, i have never met a bigger extrovert. he gets energy from being

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mcconnell. he said in an interview that a proposal to sunset social security and medicare was not a "republican plan, but one supported by rick. scott, who is unsuccessful in his run against mcconnell, proposed the plan in 2002, to sunset all federal legislation after five years. this was senate minority leader mcconnell on a radio show saying, that was a scott plan, not a republican plan. clearly the rick scott plan is not the republican plan. that is the view of the cpp -- of the speaker of the house as well. we'll will hear from scott, it is an open form. this is from st. petersburg, florida. republican line. go ahead. caller: good morning. it is not roberta, it is robert. host: i'm sorry about that. caller: thank you so much for open form. various items of discussion. i wanted to refer your callers back to last new year's eve, december 31, happening in atlanta georgia, which was the national collegiate football championship, which selected the college football championship for the year. ohio state played the university of georgia, and georgia won 32-41. that is the second time ohio state has played georgia, and both times

rick scott. >> he didn't list exceptions which is why they're saying -- >> and mitch mcconnell's against it, kevinnst it. everybody on the floor of the congress is against it. i mean, it's a gad fly position. biden hates it when republicans describe gad fly positions to him, such as, i don't know, de-fund the police. but now he's doing it to republicans. it's blatantly dishonest and that's why you saw people reacting the way they did. >> thank you both very much. a conversation to be continued. >>> next, congressman george santos just responding to senator mitt romney's slam that the new york republican doesn't belong in congress. as a top expert on pathological lying tells "outfront" that this appears to be a clear-cut case when it comes to pathological liars. we throw the term around. well, guess what, there's no throwing around anymore. >>> plus, we're at the scene of what was a 14-story residential building is now just a pile of concrete. families were crushed inside as they slept. yes. formulated to help you body really truly absorb the natural goodness.. new chapter. wellness, welll done. th

mitch mcconnell go on radio at his home state saying this is rick scott's idea, not. ours we don't want anything to do with it. rs wthere are two subplots this, alicia. politics a reelection, there's been a question, will democrats even try to play in florida? a very expensive state in 2024. now, maybe so, maybe there's a contrasting issue that makes florida more competitive. secondly, rick scott himself is in his own reelection cycle. he is on air already now saying joe biden is a liar. he's already introduced new legislation in the senate to protect social security. rick scott is on the ropes in the home state during an election cycle. joe biden has played this brilliantly. subsequently, it matters. the american people who are on joe biden side with this one. >> kadia, that's the whole thing, right? it's about 2024 and the way that this issue played out in 2024. we sort of know they're not going to able to move much through the house and the senate. just the idea that they are now on opposite sides of this issue, it creates a pretty sharp contrast. >> i understand,

rick johnson. senator scott was the head of the senatorial committee last year. he challenged mcconnell for senate leadership literally months ago and he didn't do it empty hand. for almost a year senator scott hbo promoting this big multipoint plan to rescue america. he even has this 66-page pamphlet. anyway, you can get it for free the pamphlet, and it explains everything. on page 36 quite literally it says all federal legislation sunsets in five years if laws we're keeping, congress can pass it again. that's literally something sunsetting. it can rise again like the sun but it's literally sunsetting. think about the economy collapsing and imagine if we had a scenario like that every five years for everything the government does -- social security, medicare, medicaid. can you imagine if republicans can hold hostage medical care for seniors? because that has been the sales pitch for the past year for one of the country's top republicans. republican senator ron johnson goes even further. here he is on a local radio show just last year when he was in the middle of a tough re-election fig

rick scott also includes this reading, quote, note to president biden, senator schumer and senator mcconnelly to social security, medicare or the u.s. navy. i'm not so sure that is accurate there, but what do you make of him changing his plan? it is hard not to draw a direct line to the state of the union address. >> oh, absolutely. this only happened because biden really successfully used this to change the subject to turf that is very fertile for democrats. it really just shows that -- i mean this rick scott plan was not really ready for primetime. it is one of those things that maybe it seems like it got cooked up in a think tank and they didn't really think about what it would be like when people started to scrutinize it. one of the people who looked at that pretty early was mcconnell and basically said, this thing -- he literally -- he was literally like, it is going in the trash can. we are not doing this. >> i think he tried very hard to put it in the trash can, right? didn't quite make it. >> it was not -- i don't know how we were supposed to know all of those things were exempted ex

mitch mcconnell was very careful to separate his party from what he calls the rick scott proposal.publicans led by marge lee taylor green loudly screwed up biden calling him a liar and all of that after kevin mccarthy asked him to be on the behavior and you can be seen shushing him a couple of times is the media right look disrespectful? >> they are completely correct is fair game to talk about social security and entitlement cuts it's all fair in the murky people generally like the quorum especially for occasions like this and if we go back to 2010 with joe wilson screaming you lied. >> 2009 with barack obama this was way more than that this was a chorus. >> the media went crazy over joe wilson doing this and he apologized and reprimanded by the house, now we cover it as a pinball game. >> marie claire called nancy pelosi and icon for ripping up the state of the union speech behind donald trump. >> or we suggested a different standard for democrats? >> i think there might be. >> even if that was a bad look for republicans and i think any president should be allowed to finish his s

rick scott not only propose sunsetting social security. he wrote it down in a -- plan for america to mitch mcconnell doubles mitch mcconnell's outrage -- don't write that down and publish it. he's like, no, i'm going to write go on fox news and defended. he said, fine. offer your plan. he starts with writhing with them. and as you said, chris, the -- and he held out stage. this was biden i think, at his best, in terms of a public performance. he was a little rowdy. right? he was a little fun he did his biden-ing -- including tyre nichols ' parents. but i feel like he baited them throughout. the parts were kevin mccarthy could not stand showed his weakness in the caucus. you could not stand up for democracy, for ukraine, things that would have, in the past, been solid republican issues. he could not stand up. it's remarkable. >> the part of the speech that got -- i think the other thing that is now forever changed is because maga has taken over the chamber. we now are going to see things like this. and i think it would rattle a different politician. not only was joe biden not rattled. it unleashed the ability to ad lib. because that's what th