rick warren, daniel amen, mark hyman. thank you, indeed. are you ready for this? quite a few nodding heads. rick, just final question for you. obviously, you said the most difficult year of your life. how will you be spending christmas this year as a family? >> you know, christmas -- there's three purposes of christmas. three things that the angels said, i bring you good news of great joy for unto you is born this day a savior and peace on earth, goodwill toward men. i try to do at christmas those three things. celebration, salvation and reconciliation. that's how i spend christmas. >> great to see you. a surprise for the audience. you will see copies of both of rick's books. we'll be right back. every day we're working to be an even better company - and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy inv

joining me now is pastor rick warren. great to see you. >> thanks, piers, good to be back. >> it's been a few months since we last sat down. a heart wrenching interview i did with you and your wife kay. it touched a nerve with so many people, to have somebody's whose >> well, i'm doing the same things we talked about in that interview. i'm spending a lot of time not just with friends who support me but also in solitude, in prayer, in thinking in grieving, and when i feel an emotion, i let it out. if you shake up a coke bottle and don't let it out, it will come outside ways and grief is actually a good thing. it helps us get through the transitions of life. it helps us make through the difficulties and so, what i've actually been spending a lot of time doing lately is helping other people because when we did that interview, people who either had a family member who was mentally ill or had family member whose taken their life, came out of the wood work, and either following me on facebook or twitter or instagram or e-mails,

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joining us now, rick warren and daniel aemon? >> exactly right. >> amen? amen. >> last word.rd. so be it. >> the end. it's good to see you. >> thank you. >> i know you and your wife and i have known you personally. >> yeah. >> you were kien enough to help a charity i was working on. when i heard about your son it broke my heart for you. how are you doing? >> first i want to say thanks to you, sean, and to jill and your family. america doesn't know the sean hannity i know who literally called me multiple times, texted me and often would say, are you doing okay? that shows who you are. i want to say thanks to america for their love and care. kay and i felt deeply loved. we probably received 30,000, 35,000 letters. >> wow. >> of condolences from people. i have said it before. it wasn't the famous people, rock stars and politicians who meant the most to me. it was letters from people that matthew led to faith in the lord. and had ministered to them in his lifetime. he was a creative, brilliant kid who was born with mental illness. struggled his entire life. as i have been saying,

pastor rick warren and dr. mark heiman join me now. good to see you, gentlemen.about community as a source of strength but so much of our community is based around food, especially this time of year. how do you work around that? >> well, we have to redefine what community's all about. it's about relationships. it's not about the food itself. and actually, community can be a positive force or negative force and what we're doing is trying to use it in the right way. we have all of these efforts in our culture to get us to eat the wrong thing at the wrong time in the wrong way, and we just thought well, maybe we could use community to support each other. study after study has shown, and mark, you can talk about this, has shown we actually change better in community. >> absolutely. absolutely. the science shows that the way we change behavior is by working together in groups. that's what the science shows, for all sorts of conditions, diabetes and so forth. so the daniel plan, we had 12,000 people lose a quarter of a million pounds in a year and they did it together.

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the daniel plan is a new book is combines faith and is written bypass toby pastor rick warren.st 65 pounds. but earlier this year his son matthew took his own life and pastor warren had a setback, gaining some of those pounds. and the three of you have come up with the daniel plan. before we get started, my heart felt sympathies to you. >> thank you so the people who have watched on television and sent prayers and thoughts. i'm grateful for that. i imagine putting together a book which takes time is a way to he'al. the book is using the five f's. >> the last stage of grief is taking your pain and helping somebody else. >> most books deal with food and exercise. foods and fitness we are saying that you have to have faith and friends and know cus. the secret sauce. >> they are the experts at it. you are a psychiatrist. you focused on focus? >> there are 140 studies now. as your weight goes up the physical size and function of your brain goes down. which would scare the fat off of everyone. we do brain imaging. it is clear. if you are not physically healthy the health of your brai

coming up in this half hour pastor rick warren is in studio 57 with some pounds.d?" >> yeah. >> my question is walter white still out there? >> no, he's not. >> you sound very sure. >> i am. >> i recognize that guy with charlie. and that guy right there is amc president josh saban. he's also in our toyota green room. we'll learn why he took a gamble on a meth making chemistry teacher and what's cooking for a spin-off. yes, a spin-off. >> will charlie rose return as an actor, we'll see. >>> right now it's time to show you this morning's headlines. the yankees with poaching their fielder. it's a seven-year deal worth $153 million. he followed stars who >>> "new york times" looks at the friends, relatives and journalists attending the funeral of peter kaplan. he also served as executive producer of my pbs program. he died last friday of lymphoma. peter kaplan was 59 and gave new meaning to what it meant to be a great editor. >>> follow up to a story we told you about yesterday, about actor paul walker who was killed saturday in a car crash. nine years ago a californi

we have an amazing lineup for you including pastor rick warren, jeff dunham robert and our family tvamily, "duck dynasty." >> but first, we want to welcome you to our studio audience to the men and women who serve our country from each of the branches of the u.s. military. we want to thank you all of you for your service to our country. [ applause ] >> merry christmas to all of the servicemen and women who can't be home for christmas this year. thank you for defending our'm tk óqp ":7o óñua' q@p&c@ freedom. stay safe, we miss you here at home. >> we certainly do. we also want to welcome all of the kids here in the studio and watching at home. we have got a big surprise for you. so ask mom and dad if you can stay up late tonight. >> we will be up. >> so without further ado, let's get this show started with country music star craig morgan. ♪ ♪ chest nuts roasting on open fire ♪ jack frost nipping at your nose. >> y'all tied carols ♪ being sung by the choir ♪ folks dressed up like eskimos ♪ everybody knows ♪ a turkey and some mistletoe ♪ help to make the season bright ♪ tiny tots with t

pastor rick warren, we have so much to talk about. 20th century, mandela would be an icon with gandhi, churchill, martin luther king, billy graham, and by the way, mohammad ali was instantly recognizable. i was saying earlier that if you know anything about history, some of our greatest leaders, humanity put in jail for a long period of time. martin luther king or mandela or gandhi or -- you can go down the list. >> why do you believe that? >> men of conviction don't fit the system. they are willing to fight the system. you go back to the bible and they spend time in prison before they became second in command. >>a i guy named jesus and a few followers ended up in jail as well. >> exactly. we have to incarcerate the people who challenge our country. >> isn't it amazing about nelson mandela that his greatest political move, his greatest political strategy is following jesus's that we forgive and from colin powell to james baker said what made him great is he forgave the people that persecuted him. >> the books on him will be quite larg

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here's what then-candidate barack obama said in 2008 during a campaign event with pastor rick warren.believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. now, for me as a christian, it's also a sacred union. god's in the mix. >> would you support is constitutional amendment with that definition? >> historically we have not defined marriage in our constitution. it's been a matter of state law that has been our tradition. i'm not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage, but i do believe in civil unions. i think my faith is strong enough and my marriage is strong enough that i can afford those civil rights to others even if i have a different perspective or a different view. >> phil robertson's not exactly on the same page as the president. in the qq article the star also said we never, ever judge someone who's going to heaven or hell. we just love them, give them the good news about jesus. homosexuals, drunks, terrorists all in one breath. with us now ellis henekin and zerlina maxwell. ellis, distinguish what you heard from the president in that rick warren forum and what the "

and rick warren is in studio 57 with a new mission. how he hopes his group loses 250,000 pounds. the news is back in the morning. we'll see you at 7:00. anne and juliette, tell frank and michelle i said hey. >> frank lost his voice and michelle is on assignment so we are going to get them back soon. but thanks. good to talk with you. >> yeah. >> nice to meet you both. bye. >> get a couple of sick calls, you get up. [ laughter ] >> that's right. >>> "cbs this morning" starts at 7:00. >> it's 6:51 now. 80,000 californians have signed up for insurance through the state's real affordable healthcare exchange. today kpix 5 is gathering the experts from "covered california" for a healthcare consumerwatch hotline. representatives will be here at kpix 5 all day today to answer your questions. simply call between 11 a.m. and 7 p.m. to 1-888-5-helps-u. ask us questions on our cbs san francisco facebook page. >>> about 8 minutes before 7:00. this year the norad santa tracker won't just show santa as he flies through delivering presents. who is joining him this christmas. >> reporter: it's th

audience and pastor rick warren and co-authors dr. amen and dr. hyman. "the daniel plan." i'll be starting it in january. that's it for us tonight. see you all here next time. >>> the following is a cnn special report. >>> into the tunnel! let's use the tunnel. >> we knew him as "fast & furious." a california surfer. >> i remember him, sandy beach hair in surf trunks paddling out into the water. >> he had the blue eyes, blond hair. >> turned mega watt movie star. >> i thought this young guy is so full of light. he really can act. >> but so much of paul walker's passion was played offscreen. >> he said he was one foot in, one foot out with the hollywood game. >> this is the bridge of yesterday and making the scramble to port-au-prince. >> he was a philanthropist. >> they need help. >> he was very cool to see someone on the screen who portrays this hero and then to actually work with him and go whoa, whoa, whoa. you are as much of a big hero. >> he was a father and friend. >> he's just such a lovable man. >> and then, the tragic crash that took his life. >> we all lost a fri

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>> and pastor rick warren talking about faith and fitness and haunting eerie sounds from the new worldde building. so you then. >> all right. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertantly collect but not wittingly. >> a new controversy with the nsa and your cell phone. washington post reports that documents obtained from edsnowden that they are collecting 5 billion cell phone records every day from around the world. >> judge, great to see you. were you stunned when you read the 5 billion with a b. >> i was stunned billions with a b. but not billions of cell photocopies. it is billions of time and so it may be a couple of hundred million cell phone. when the nsa is looking for a particular individual rather finding a person or search warrant they captured all cell phones in the country where it is until they find the one they are looking for. they don't care about the privacy rights. even when it is off will tell the nsa where i am when ever it

. >>> my studio audience, pastor rick warren "the daniel plan." also with us is co-authors. i want to start with a question here.

>>> i want to thank my studio audience and my special guest, pastor rick warren. the new book is "the daniel plan," i will be starting it in january. that's it for us tonight. see you here next time. >>> good evening everyone. breaking news, an ice storm is a killer storm and people from california to kentucky, duluth, minneapolis to dallas, texas are caught in the deadly grip and how south africa and the world is saying good-bye to nelson mandela and my conversation with maya angelou and gary player about the power to inspire people to imagine a better world and make it real. and later, you'll meet a man who spent 18 years in prison and came close to being executed for a murder he didn't commit despite evidence he didn't do it. >>> we begin tonight with breaking news of freakish and dangerous weather pattern that made it possible to experience a 105 degree swing from miami where it was 80 to montana where it was minus five. super cold rain is falling, freezing and coating a big chunk of the country in misery and mayham. >> reporter: two days ago here in arkansas,

and pastor rick warren and his message to the parents of sandy hook. >> a lot of people try to say everything that happens is god's will. that's nonsense. god allows everything, but does not choose everything. >> we begin with our big story with the sandy hook 911 tapes days before the first anniversary of the tragedy. marcia lanza, thank you for joining me. i am aware you are the first member of the lanza family to speak since this appalling shooting. first of all, let me get your reaction to the tapes. have you heard them and what do you feel about the release today? >> i've heard a portion of the tapes. i don't think the timing is right for them to be released. i think emotions are very raw and too soon. i believe they need to wait. >> you are married to the brother of adam lanza's father. you didn't see adam lanza from when he was 3 years old, but stayed in touch with his mother, nancy. there many unanswered questions about what happened. as a member of the family, as a lanza, have you been able to work out in your mind what turned adam lanza into this mass killer? >> whoa. it's been very

we have an amazing lineup for you including pastor rick warren, jeff dunham, robert and our family tvience to the men and women who serve our country from each of the branches of the u.s. military. we want to thank you all of you for your service to our country. [ applause ]

plus the grieving father of a 6-year-old who tried to save his classmates joins me and pastor rick warren people try to make it sound like well everything that happens is god's will. that's nonsense. god

this is pastor rick warren. you're watching "fox & friends." merry christmas. >> you know what?warren will be in our christmas special, the "fox & friends" christmas special you'll see on christmas eve right here on the channel. >> it's become an annual tradition dating back to 1943. we've been doing it actually over the weekend for some reason, johnny dollar put up our scene from "it's a wonderful life." >> that's right. >> come home to little sally. we look at the christmas tree. >> she's now how old? >> she's a junior in college. it's a classic. that runs on christmas eve at 8 p.m then a week later, ladies and gentlemen, miss new year's eve is sitting right next to us here. >> are you excited? you're going to be hosting with bill hemmer? >> i'll be bill hemmer's sidekick bringing in the new year. 11:00 p.m. eastern, december 31. >> have you ever been in times square on new year's eve? >> never. this will be my first time. >> it's fantastic. >> it will be exciting. i've only made it up to the wall of people and then backed up. >> something electric and something warm. >> and a

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. >> we have an amazing line up for you including pastor rick warren and our favorite tv family, duck dynasty. first we want to well you you to our audience. we want to thank you for your service to our country. [ applause ] >> merry christmas to all of our service people who can't be home for christmas. we want to welcome all the kids to the studio and watching at home. we have a big surprise for you. >> let's get this show started with country music super star craig morgan. ♪ chestnuts roasting on an open fire ♪ ♪ jack frost nipping as your nose ♪ ♪ yule tide caroles being sung by the choir and folks dressed up like eskimos everybody knows a turkey and some mistletoe ♪ help to make the season bright ♪ ♪ tiny tots with their eyes all a glow will find it hard to sleep tonight ♪ they know that santa's on his sleigh ♪ ♪ he's load eed lots of toys an goodies on this sleigh ♪ ♪ and every mother's child is gonna to see if reindeer really know how to fly ♪ simple phrase ♪fering this ♪ for kids from one to 92 ♪ although it's been said many times many ways, merry christmas to you ♪ *-*-*-*-*-

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. >> rick warren, merry christmas. >> merry christmas. and merry christmas to all of new america.ay and me, and we're grateful for all of the prayers. thank you. >>> coming up, he's america's favorite kmied yan. >> and he belted out god bless america, petty officer wilson is here to sing silent night. so stick around. ♪ i wanna spread a little love this year ♪ [ male announcer ] this december, experience the gift of exacting precision and some of the best offers of the year at the lex december to remembesales event. this is the pursui of perfection. [knock] no one was at home, but on the kitchen table sat three insurance policies. the first had lots of coverage. the second, only a little. but the third was... just right! bear: hi! yeah, we love visitors. that's why we moved to a secluded house in the middle of the wilderness. just the right coverage at just the right price. coverage checker from progressive. >> he is known as america's favorite comedian, i'm talking about jeff >>> he's known as america's favorite comedian. i'm talking about jeff dunham. he and his pal peanut join

tony blair and rick warren held an event at douglas not long ago, a couple of years go -- an davos not long ago, a couple of years ago. these are necessities. >> i would like to go ahead and open it up to some questions. here's what i would like to ask you to do. we have one microphone here. i need you to use the microphone so that your voice can be heard. and you have to give it back. so we will just kind of tacit as the crows fly -- kind of pass it as the crows fly. we will start here in front. in my history of this understanding of the relationship between faith-based and government is a long one. i remember catholic charities and catholic receive -- catholic charities having received and cooperated with the government from back in the 1920s. i'm not that old. this is being put into the common understanding we're been doing so well together. here, locally, those large religious-based service operators receive the united way dollars, and a big, generous spirit. i thought the president -- t was set -- preceden up by the 1920's. >> before that. clark's catholic charities was 40% of the

tony blair and rick warren held an event at douglas not long ago, a couple of years go -- an event atot long ago, a couple of years ago. these are necessities. >> i would like to go ahead and open it up to some questions. here's what i would like to ask you to do. we have one microphone here. i need you to use the microphone so that your voice can be heard. and you have to give it back. so we will just kind of tacit as the crows fly -- kind of pass it s the crows fly. we will start here in front. >> in my history of this understanding of the relationship between faith-based groups and government is a long one. remember catholic charities and catholic receive -- catholic relief charities having received and cooperated with the government from back in the 1920s. i'm not that old. that was a precedent. so when this office was established, i thought wonderful. this is being put into the common understanding we're been doing so well together. here, locally, those large religious-based service operators receive the united way fund, community dollars, and a big, generous spirit. i thought th

with his son's suicide, this has been the worst year of pastor rick warren's life but he has relied on

tony blair and rick warren held an event at douglas not long ago, a couple of years go -- an event at davos not long ago, a couple of years ago. these are necessities. >> i would like to go ahead and open it up to some questions. here's what i would like to ask you to do. we have one microphone here. i need you to use the microphone so that your voice can be heard. and you have to give it back. so we will just kind of tacit as the crows fly -- kind of pass it as the crows fly. we will start here in front. >> in my history of this understanding of the relationship between faith-based groups and government is a long one. i remember catholic charities and catholic receive -- catholic relief charities having received and cooperated with the government from back in the 1920s. i'm not that old. that was a precedent. so when this office was established, i thought wonderful. >> before that. >> catholic charities was 40% of the income. >> 70%. >> thank you for the correction. i cofounded a nonprofit about 30 years ago in dallas, homeward bound. having understood, it is not faith based. we have

>> this is pastor rick warren. you're watching "fox & friends." >> merry christmas from 48th and 6th avenue, midtown manhattan, right outside the fox news channel studios. merry christmas eve. we are asking your traditions. hit us up on facebook, tweet us, e-mail us at foxnews.com. >> we are having a great time. stay with us, join us for the rest of the program. >> i am about to introduce this guy, the obamacare deadline extended by one day, giving americans until midnight tonight to enroll and be covered, beginning january 1st, but despite record traffic, the white house still millions away from its ultimate goal. james rosen, the guy we are talking about will join us live with more. hey, james. >> reporter: that's what my business cards say, the guy you're talking about. good morning to you and anna and brian and viewers. less than $4,000 a month, what obama is expected to pay for the bronze plan that he enrolled in over the weekend. vacationing in hawaii and senior administration officials say his enrollment in obamacare was symbolic because as

. >> we have an amazing line up for you including pastor rick warren and our favorite tv family, duckwe want to thank you for your service to our country. [ applause ]

. >> and, rick, you actually think that in this poll where democrats say that they would choose hillary clinton at 68%, that's just incredible numbers, joe biden at 12% and elizabeth warren andrew cuomo in single digits, you think that this is a big warning sign for the democrats and for hillary clinton. why do you think that? >> you tell me hot frontrunner is in 2013 and that's the person who is going to have the biggest target on his or her back in 2014, 2015 and of course 2016. hillary clinton has been the frontrunner before. like karen i wrote those same stories 8 years ago. the thing right now is that she is so pro-himmively the frontrunner that someone has to emerge as the anti-hillary clinton. that doesn't mean that person will be successful. it does mean she is going to take a lot of incoming. you are starting so see early warning shots. some people on the left challenger. they don't have a person yet. that person will exist. that probably isn't on that poll. but a year from now will have a much better sense of who it is that emerging as potential alternative to hillary. >> we'll put that in a greta time volt and see who emerges and bring you back then. i want to