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joining me now from washington is journalist and author ronald kessler. you broke the story. how big a deal do you think this is? >> this is really the biggest scandal in the history of the secret service. the biggest breach was when the salehis crashed the state dinner with a third intruder and it amounts to a pattern of corner cutting, covering up, laxness by secret service management. yet, mark sullivan, the secret service director, continues over all these fiascos. president obama has said he has complete confidence in the secret service. you know, i understand he admires the agency protecting them and he thinks that represents the secret service but in my book "in the president's secret service" i go into all kinds of issues including letting people into events without screening -- >> let's talk more about this issue. the secret service has said that the president's safety was not compromised. but there was a risk here. i know you believe that. you believe it could have certainly put the president at risk. >> sure. of course, it's totally inappropriate for agents to be g

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earlier i spoke with reynolds k ronald kessler, the journalist who broke the story and asked him what> reporter: actually all 12 involved in this situation involved prostitutes, and one of the agents did not pay one of the prostitutes and she compl n complained to local police and that's how that all started. police went to the state department, the state department told the secret service, the secret service recalled all the cvent agents. it's clearly the biggest scandal in history. the only thing that comes close is the other story i also broke. corner-cutting. a lax attitude which contributes to this kind of thing. >> do we have an idea how many -- if all 12 were sent home, do we know how many were involved in this? >> my understanding, all 12 to one degree or another, whether actually doing it or covering it up. and they're all going to be investigating by the office of professional respondent. >> just to be clear, submitting to prostitution in colombia is not illegal, correct? >> right. as long as it's in designated areas. but, of course, it's totally inappropriate for secret ser

. >> i want to bring in a journalist ronald kessler. author of "in the president's secret service."ou say this is the biggest scandal to hit the secret service. how did this happen? >> well, since i broke the story, of course it's the biggest. but it is a symptom of the lax attitude of secret service management. we saw that come out in the fact that the salahis were able to crash the white house state dinner. in my book "in the president's secret service," i reveal dozens of corner cutting by management. allowing people into events without screening for example. it's just like letting people into an airplane without screening. that alone is shocking. >> you put the responsibility on mark sullivan, you're a critic of his? >> yeah. obviously these people engaged in egregious behavior and there they're reminded they could be blackmailed. but i think that when people on the grounds see that the boss really doesn't care, is sort of winking and nodding, is lax and is over working them and is showing favoritism, one example they don't even insist of regular physical fitness testing or regu

now, ronald kessler is the reporter who first broke this story on the prostitution scandal in colombia two weeks ago. he told us today this is a symptom of larger problems in the secret service. it's a culture of winking and nodding and cutting corners. significant allegation. and kessler tells us that director mark sullivan is not the only one to blame and that according to the agents that he talks to, this culture endangers the president. for now the white house and secretary napolitano are standing by their man and the agency. >> director sullivan has the president's and my full confidence as this investigation proceeds. the investigation will be complete and thorough and we will leave no stone unturned. >> senator chuck grassley is the top republican on the hearing and he was in the hearing with napolitano today and he's calling for an outside investigation to determine if any white house staff members were involved in the scandal in colombia. good to see you. i know you have been critical of the investigations that we have seen so far. what questions do you have that are not getti

i talked to ronald kessler, he broke the story, he says it started with one agent who refused to pay a local prostitute. i asked him if all 12 of the agents were involved. >> my understanding is all 12 to one degree or another, whether actually doing it or covering it up, and they are all going to be investigated by the office of professional responsibility. >> just to be clear, so listing prostitution in colombia is not illegal, correct? >> right, as long as it's in certain designated areas. but of course, it's totally inappropriate for secret service agents to go to prostitutes, especially on a foreign trip, when they are protecting the president. and exacts possible black mail. one of these prostitutes knowing there is an agent is with the secret service, could blackmail him, many of them are married, could blackmail them by insisting that let's say a terrorist be allowed in a secure area. which could result in assassinations, so it's shocking. >> we'll go live to colombia for more on this next hour. >>> people living in the plains are on alert for likely tornado outbreak today. y

reporter: ronald kessler, a secret service insider and the author of books on the topic says the scandal was exposed after one allegedly stiffed a prostitute. >> she complained to police and prostitution is legal in colombia, so there wasn't any problem to complain. they told the state department, the state department told the secret service. reporter: soon after he said secret service removed about a dozen agents before the president arrived in colombia. >> hour tax dollars are hard at work, i guess. >> people not making good decisions. hopefully this is a decision, not common culture. reporter: kessler believes this is not an isolated incident, but a pattern of behavior within the united states secret service that could compromise the president's safety. >> current agents tell me it's really a miracle there has not been an assassination given all the corner cutting that's going on. you saw the example of the salahis being allowed in to crash the state dinner, even though they were not on the guest list. it's the same pattern of winking, nodding, not following rules. reporter: a secret

i have read ronald kessler's book on the secret service. there needs to be some reform there. kessler has noted they are understaffed and then it's just a matter of time for something terrible to happen. as he just discussed on your program here just a few minutes ago that this is the type of thing you can be blackmailed for. it's really a danger that should be addressed. >> gregg: not the first embarrassment under the stewart ship of michael sullivan. infamous salehes and breached security of secret service and got very close to the president. something could have happened. you've been around washington for a while. would you anticipate the resignation of sullivan on his own or at the behest of the white house? >> he could be inched out over time. we'll see exactly what happens here. there have been several errors and at some point, some heads to have roll before you get change. >> gregg: sometimes you need a change in leadership for revaluation and clean house. try and set up new standards. this is obviously incredibly important. we're talking about the safety of the leader o

journalists and author ronald kessler is the author of "in the president's secret service."ry about the agents being sent home. nice to see you and thanks for being with us. i read some of the guidelines. that's not the whole list. do you think those guidelines are enough to change the behavior and basically, you know, nip all of these potential scandal in the bud? >> well, it certainly will help. this kind of behavior really is an anomaly even though it's an incredible scandal. the larger picture is that the management has been cutting corners and has been lax in much more serious ways. i see this episode in colombia as a symptom of that, as well as the fact that agents from the uniform division let the party crashers into the white house knowing they were not on the guest list. why would they all do that? because of this corner-cutting at the highest levels of the secret service. for example, they will condone letting people into events for the president or the vice president without putting them through metal detectors or magnetometers and that is like letting people into

joining us live with more insight, ronald kessler "new york times" best selling author of books about secret service, fbi and cia, also broke this story as well. good morning. >> good morning. >> looks like more heads are expected to roll. what do you think will be let go and do you think calls for the director stepping down, do you think he should step down as well? >> i think more members of congress will call for his resignation. it goes back to a culture of lax in which i reveal in my book. for example, they'll even let people into events without -- [inaudible] -- what could be worse? when joe biden threw out the first pitch at the orioles' game, no screening whatsoever. that is the job of the secret service to protect the president and vice president. not doing that, something is seriously wrong. >> kind of speaks to, you were talking about maybe the overall culture. one of the agents released due to the scandal posted on his facebook page about sarah palin, former vice presidential candidate, saying in part on his facebook page he was really checking out the vice presidential ca

ronald kessler, we appreciate you joining us this morning. thank you. >> thank you. >>> now, a potentially dangerous weekend in the plains. severe weather is on the way. the warning zone extends from minnesota to texas. dean reynolds is in the heart in oklahoma city. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jeff. well, the damage here in norman could be just a taste things to come because this it is a day of most concern for the national weather service, where forecasters are saying all of the right ingredients are coming together to form what could be violent and potentially deadly long-track tornadoes. damage was relatively slight from one twister that briefly touched down near the university of oklahoma on friday afternoon. but according to the national weather service, it could be the first of many more to come. the storm prediction center in norman says 5.5 million americans fall under the scope of the coming storm. which officials call a, quote, high and life-threatening event. >> valid until 02 z -- >> reporter: as lightning strikes li

. >> author ronald kessler doesn't work for the secret service, but he has plenty of friends that do.ed, in the president's secret service, behind the scenes with agents in the line of fire and the presidents they protect. it was one of his sources that tipped him off about the sexual scandal unfolding in columbia. with agents that were supposed to be guarding president obama during a summit, instead hooking up with prostitutes. >> one of the agents refused to pay. the prostitute complain to police because in columbia, prostitution is not illegal. >> when police started asking questions, the scandal erupted. >> police went to the state department, secret service, the white house was informed, and the secret service did withdraw the agents. they are all under investigation. i'm sure they will be fired. >> he fears for the president's safety now more than ever. >> current agents tell me that they believe that an assassination is very possible because of all the corner cutting. >> corner cutting on the budget, kessler says, edwin donovan released this statement. the secret service takes

the author, ronald kessler, who broke this story wrote this book on the secret service years ago, is calling this the worst scandal in secret service history. you had before the president arrive in colombia # one secret service agents, five defense officials as well, involved in this alleged prostitution scandal in cartagena where members of the media were staying, as well. this happened, again, before the president arrived. so what the secret service had to do was rush those secret service agents out, get them back to washington for this investigation, and rush in a new unit to make sure that the president would be protected. mr. obama yesterday, at a news conference made clear he is not happy about this. >> what happened here in colombia is being investigated by the director of the secret service. i expect that investigation to be thorough and i expect it to be rigorous. if it turns out that from the allegations that have been made in the press -- some of the allegations made in the press are confirmed, then of course i'll be angry >> reporter: also investigated now on capitol hill

joining me is on the phone, ronald kessler, he broke the story about the agents being sent home. mr. kessler, good morning to you, what is your understanding of what these secret service agents were allegedly doing in cartegena? >> all 12 agents involved in this situation, involving prostitutes, and one of the agents did not pay one of the prostitutes and she complained to local police and that is how this all started. police went to the state department, state department told the secret service, secret service recalled all the agents, it is clearly the biggest scandal in secret service history. the only thing that comes close is the penetration of the state dinner by the salahis and it goes back to a culture of laxness in the secret service which i revealed in my book "in the president's secret service." a lax attitude which contributes to this kind of thing. >> do we have any idea if all 12 were sent home, how many were involved in this? >> my understanding is all 12 were to one degree or another, whether actually doing it or covering it up, and they are all going to be investi

ronald kessler is the author of "in the president's secret service: behind the scenes with agents in the line of fire and the presidents they protect." mr. kessler, good morning to you. >> good to be with you. >> what was your first reaction when you heard these allegations that these members of an advanced team, if you will, were perhaps involved with prostitutes before the president arrived in colombia? what was your first reaction? >> well, this is just another example of what i've been writing about in my book, "in the president's secret service" and since then. the sal la his was another example. in my book i reveal dodens of examples of corner cutting by the secret service, laxness by the secret service, ranging from letting people into events without metal detection, under pressure from campaign staff, to not keeping up to date with the latest firearms, to even letting agents ignore requirements for physical fitness. >> when you talk about dozens of examples, though, would you not agree with secret service spokesmen, or officials who say, 99% of the time, these folks get it ri

journalist and author ronald kessler broke the story, and he told me it started with one prostitute who wasn't paid. from there it went to the police and then to the state department. i asked kessler about the real risk in this case. >> the real risk is, you know, some of these agents were married. they could have been subjected to blackmail by these porosirose prostitutes, and as a result, they could have let terrorists in to secure areas, and that could have results in an assassination. >> the secret service says those personnel are being relieved of their assignments, returned to their place of duty, and are being replaced by other secret service personnel. they also said security was never compromised. >>> two small bombs exploded almost simultaneously last night. the bombings were far from where world leaders were getting ready for the summit. no casualties. just minor damage. there was another bombing in the capital city of bogota. >>> more tornadoes likely in the plains possibly this evening or overnight. more storms struck oklahoma yesterday. for only the second time ever, the n

. >> ronald kessler is author of in the president's secret service and he joins me now. on have you here. and you've mentioned before the corner cutting that's happened by the agency in the past, but let's focus specifically on this scandal. how high does this it rang in terms of a black eye? >> no question this is the biggest scandal in the history of the secret service and these agents could have been blackmailed by these prostitutes to let a terrorist in, to let the russian foreign intelligence service in. just incredible. but it is a symptom of what i wrote about in the secret service and the salahi intrusion is another example. i broke the story in the "washington post" and to hear president obama refer to allegations in the press, we have to find out if they're true, his own government said these agents engaged in misconduct and they're why they're being accepts homsent h. for him to say i'll be angry is a line of lack of sleerleadersh. what is needed is replacement of mark sullivan who has tolerated this culture of cutting corners. >> doesn't a full investigation

ronald kessler has an axe to grind with the secret service generally and with the director in particular. he doesn't take lightly the charges but he is cautioning everybody go slowly. because there are a lot of wild accusations floating around that may not have merit. >> did he point to who is rushing here? i mean, you have the president obviously promising a thorough investigation. right now there are reports that up to 20 including military personnel are being questioned. who does adler say is rushing to judgment here? >> i guess i've been consumed with the story for the last couple of days and i note that there are wide varieties of so-called facts being presented. was there $47 in dispute? or was it $170? >> does it matter? >> yeah, i think it does matter. it matters. i'll give you a great example. $47, the lawyer in me says, who wouldn't just pay the $47 and make the problem go away? if it were a dispute over $47, could it be that the agent said to himself, if i pay this amount of money, it is an admission that this was a hooker as opposed to consensual sex between adults. it can be

i want to bring in ronald kessler, investigative reporter who broke the story in "the washington postf all, you look at what has happened here. if you believe the story that you have 11 people involved and 11 prostitutes, that many people, does this call into question the leadership of the secret service? >> of course. and it's not just sullivan happens to be the director and this terrible thing happened and the salahis intrusion, another terrible thing happened. the leadership of mark sullivan, the dreirector condoned corner cutting, lackness. i document that. with dozens of examples of corner cutting such as letting people into events without magnetometer screenings, letting passengers in without screening, that alone should be enough to have him removed. yet, you have apologists from the hill saying oh, he's such a good guy, you have president obama sort of glossing over it on sunday by saying if these charges are -- allegations in the press are found out to be true, i'll be angry. it's not allegations in the press, it's the secret service that is saying and told me when i broke th

>> hopefully we can learn from this, but ronald kessler said he is really worried about the kind andunt of stress that is on the secret service. there have been percentage of complaints and worrisome things. [ laughter ] >> drinking and other hotel guests. >> i think we have to look at it top down and figure out what is going on within the entire service. >> heather: he also mentioned one of many dangers of this they had set themselves up for the possibility of blackmail. >> when i got my security clearance, the first thing you learn when you are traveling abroad do not bring strangers into your hotel rooms. do not go drinking with people don't know. i'm not sure anybody told me about prostitutes but the possibility of blackmail. what if somebody had bugged those rooms. >> and we focus on the gsa. move aside gsa. when you have this many people who went down to a place that they knew the president was going to be. the head of the secret service said, oh, well these people weren't protecting the president. what were they doing down there? >> the advance several days down. >> and assass

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