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we'll go to uvalde and shimon prokupecz in a moment. first i want to play you another moment we got in from the uvalde school board meeting from a sibling whose sister was murdered. >> how am i supposed to come back here? i'm going to be a senior. how am i supposed to come back to this school? what are you guys going to do to make sure i don't have to watch my friends die? what are you going to do to make sure i don't have to wait 77 minutes bleeding out on my classroom floor just like my little sister did. i know there's nothing you can do to bring my sister back. but maybe, just maybe if you do something to change this, you can prevent the next family from losing their child. >> more now on what we're learning about what went on inside the school from these videos. this is new video being seen for the first time tonight from shimon prokupecz. he joins us from uvalde. there's a lot of this new body camera footage. explain the importance of it, what it shows. >> reporter: well, anderson, you show the podium. you have the governor there
we'll go to uvalde and shimon prokupecz in a moment. first i want to play you another moment we got in from the uvalde school board meeting from a sibling whose sister was murdered. >> how am i supposed to come back here? i'm going to be a senior. how am i supposed to come back to this school? what are you guys going to do to make sure i don't have to watch my friends die? what are you going to do to make sure i don't have to wait 77 minutes bleeding out on my classroom floor just like my...
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shimon prokupecz spoke with mothers of several of the children who survived.nd a warning what they have to say is graphic and difficult to hear. >> he just saw the shooter come to the door and tell his teacher good night and shot her. and then he just announced are y'all all ready to die and just went crazy. >> reporter: for cassandra, and the other two mothers, mothers of children who survived the robb elementary shooting, life will never be the same. >> i know what they endured those whole 77 minutes, they shouldn't have. >> reporter: teeth scattered on the floor. pools of blood so thick to a child it looked like red jello. these moms see the pain of that day live on through the eyes of their sons. >> one of the little girls that he was lying by, all he could hear was her gurgling because she was trying to breathe but she couldn't because she was shot and he could just hear her, you know, choking pretty much. >> reporter: he told you that? >> uh-huh. nothing that they could do. >> reporter: witnesses to one of the country's worst school shootings, and victim
shimon prokupecz spoke with mothers of several of the children who survived.nd a warning what they have to say is graphic and difficult to hear. >> he just saw the shooter come to the door and tell his teacher good night and shot her. and then he just announced are y'all all ready to die and just went crazy. >> reporter: for cassandra, and the other two mothers, mothers of children who survived the robb elementary shooting, life will never be the same. >> i know what they...
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cnn's shimon prokupecz spoke to teacher arnie reyes about the nightmare of bullets flying in his schooled seeing like the sheetrock fly off the walls and stuff like that, and that's when i had told my kids, i don't know what it is, but let's get under the table. >> arnie reyes was the only survivor from classroom 111 in robb elementary in uvalde, texas, after a month in the hospital, ten surgeries to bullet wounds in his arm and back, he's finally back home and talking about the day that ripped so many lives apart. >> i was getting the kids under the table. i turned around and when i turned around, i saw him, but i just saw like the shadow, and that's when i saw the two -- like the fire and then i ended up on the ground as well. >> and so you get hit and you go down? >> mm-hmm. >> and what's going on in your mind at that time? >> i'm just thinking and waiting for somebody to come and save us. you always think, you know, something bad is happening, that the cops get there so fast. they rush in and they help you, you know, and i was just waiting for that. i was waiting for anybody, anybod
cnn's shimon prokupecz spoke to teacher arnie reyes about the nightmare of bullets flying in his schooled seeing like the sheetrock fly off the walls and stuff like that, and that's when i had told my kids, i don't know what it is, but let's get under the table. >> arnie reyes was the only survivor from classroom 111 in robb elementary in uvalde, texas, after a month in the hospital, ten surgeries to bullet wounds in his arm and back, he's finally back home and talking about the day that...
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cnn's shimon prokupecz is in uvalde.s body cam footage and report shed new light on the botched police response that day. tell us more. >> yeah, certainly, the report goes into the fact that there was no command. no one seemed to have control of the situation. when you look at the body camera footage that was released, it really illustrates the confusion, the sort of lack of authority on scene. someone to take control. take a look at some of that as it was unfolding. >> the chief is making contact with him, right? for no, no one has made contact with him. >> [ bleep ]. >> what are we doing here? >> do we have anyone that's hit on this side? any of the kids or anyone hit? >> no, we don't know anything about that. >> and jake, there's a part that the body camera also footage also captured, chief arredondo, the school police chief, actually trying to negotiate with the gunman. take a listen. >> sir, if you can hear me, please put your firearm down, sir. we don't want anyone else hurt. i know, i know. >> we're trying to get
cnn's shimon prokupecz is in uvalde.s body cam footage and report shed new light on the botched police response that day. tell us more. >> yeah, certainly, the report goes into the fact that there was no command. no one seemed to have control of the situation. when you look at the body camera footage that was released, it really illustrates the confusion, the sort of lack of authority on scene. someone to take control. take a look at some of that as it was unfolding. >> the chief is...
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let's go right now to cnn's shimon prokupecz for the latest. g on uvalde school police chief pete arredondo. >> yeah, so, don, we have learned that there were discussions through the day about how to proceed, in terms of firing pete arredondo. a decision has been made that they don't want to keep. him. they know they have a problem at the school board. they understand that it's time to let him go. there is a process now underway for that to happen. it's going to take a few days, i'm told that there's going to be a school board hearing and we should see a notice here tomorrow that there will be a school board hearing on saturday. and that's when the decision will ultimately be made. he has a few days, to decide whether he ultimately wants to resign before saturday. but by all accounts, from everything our team here on the ground is told, that it is expected he will not be the school police chief for much longer, don. >> but he could resign. no indication of that -- before that saturday meeting? >> there is no indication, that's right. as of now,
let's go right now to cnn's shimon prokupecz for the latest. g on uvalde school police chief pete arredondo. >> yeah, so, don, we have learned that there were discussions through the day about how to proceed, in terms of firing pete arredondo. a decision has been made that they don't want to keep. him. they know they have a problem at the school board. they understand that it's time to let him go. there is a process now underway for that to happen. it's going to take a few days, i'm told...
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mayor don mclaughlin spoke exclusively with cnn's shimon prokupecz about this and shimon is joining usive. what did he tell you? >> reporter: right. and, brianna, his issue is specifically with the texas department of public safety, which is running this investigation, his issues over how they're going about releasing the limited information that they have, and certainly just the overall investigation. take a listen. >> i think it's a cover up on -- >> on -- they're covering up? >> mccraw is covering up. >> for who? >> maybe his agencies or maybe he told the story he told, that, you know, it's hard, you know -- what do they say, it's always hard when you tell a lie, that you have to keep telling a lie. i'm not saying he's lying, maybe he was misled with the information he got. >> he hasn't changed his story, right, since that friday. >> no. >> and then he did the senate hearing. >> yeah. which was -- >> which is even more -- he was even more emphatic about chief arredondo being the man who was responsible for everything here, blaming everything on him. >> well, again, you know, every a
mayor don mclaughlin spoke exclusively with cnn's shimon prokupecz about this and shimon is joining usive. what did he tell you? >> reporter: right. and, brianna, his issue is specifically with the texas department of public safety, which is running this investigation, his issues over how they're going about releasing the limited information that they have, and certainly just the overall investigation. take a listen. >> i think it's a cover up on -- >> on -- they're covering...
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shimon prokupecz has. and one of the things he said to our reporter was that he would speak and release information once the families stopped breathing. and when i heard that, i thought, well that's -- there is never going to be a time when that pain is not there. i'm wondering if you heard him say that and wouldn't you thought when you heard that. >> i didn't. i was not aware of that. i mean, i think us parents think that hearing people release information or keep information, they are doing it for us? that's a complete lie. if they have information and they want to tell us as a family, then tell us as a family. don't release it to the public. don't try to get recognition off of a situation like that. that just humiliates us. we lost our children. this is not something that somebody should be gaining anything off of. >> you are about to go to the first school board meeting since your daughter amerie jill was killed. would you hope will happen there? were you expecting? >> i am expecting a lot of angry par
shimon prokupecz has. and one of the things he said to our reporter was that he would speak and release information once the families stopped breathing. and when i heard that, i thought, well that's -- there is never going to be a time when that pain is not there. i'm wondering if you heard him say that and wouldn't you thought when you heard that. >> i didn't. i was not aware of that. i mean, i think us parents think that hearing people release information or keep information, they are...
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shimon prokupecz is with us. eo, shimon. >> yeah, disturbing to know that what's on the other side of the wall where these officers are standing in the hallways literally standing around doing nothing, anderson, for more than an hour, trying to figure out what they're going to do, and they wind up standing around for so long, they do nothing. it is a very disturbing portrayal of what was going on in the hallway. the families certainly are extremely upset, anderson, over how this came out, the leak. they were expecting this to come out at some point. that they were going to be able to view this in an organized fashion, but i think off the top, it's important to know how upset the family members are over this video and what it shows is certainly so disturbing because you see the officers in the hallway, you see them run towards the gunfire, but then do everything against their training. they retreat. they move back away from the gunman, and then we know, anderson, what happens after that. take a look at some of that
shimon prokupecz is with us. eo, shimon. >> yeah, disturbing to know that what's on the other side of the wall where these officers are standing in the hallways literally standing around doing nothing, anderson, for more than an hour, trying to figure out what they're going to do, and they wind up standing around for so long, they do nothing. it is a very disturbing portrayal of what was going on in the hallway. the families certainly are extremely upset, anderson, over how this came out,...
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cnn's shimon prokupecz and rosa flores joining us from uvalde. shimon, you've obtained the report and read it. tell us what you've learned. >> reporter: the lackadaisical response, they talk about how there was no command, no control, no leadership essentially on the scene of the shooting. it was just truly chaos, every officer doing their own thing. we're also learning what the police chief, the school police chief, pete arredondo, told the committee. he appeared before the committee. he explained his thinking. he said at one point he didn't believe there were any kids inside the score because it was awards day. what he said was he looked at an adjacent room, room 110, and when he went in there, there was no one in there, and it made himly were no babies as he said inside the room. of course, we know that was not the case. he also describes how initially his thinking was that this was an active shooter situation, but then what happens is he starts to believe that the subject, the gunman, is barricaded, and that in order to rescue the other kids t
cnn's shimon prokupecz and rosa flores joining us from uvalde. shimon, you've obtained the report and read it. tell us what you've learned. >> reporter: the lackadaisical response, they talk about how there was no command, no control, no leadership essentially on the scene of the shooting. it was just truly chaos, every officer doing their own thing. we're also learning what the police chief, the school police chief, pete arredondo, told the committee. he appeared before the committee. he...
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we ain't going nowhere. >> joining us from texas is shim sh shimon prokupecz.ay be removed? >> reporter: that process is under way. i'm told by school officials they want him terminated. they want him gone. they listened to those parents in that meeting. i was there. it was incredible to watch. it was the first time -- we heard them sort of demand accountability. it was the first time where you felt that they had confidence, they were coming together as one to ask for accountability. that was the biggest thing that they wanted. they wanted pete arredondo fired. they want him gone. now it looks like that process is under way. school officials listening to those parents. i'm told that they do -- the school wants him terminated. there's a process now. it's under way. the one thing is that he could -- he could resign before ultimately that decision is made. he is under contract. there's other things going on here. we wait to see what happens in the next few days. >> you repeatedly tried to talk to chief arredondo to get very basic questions. you caught up with him
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cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz is in uvalde with more, so what exactly does thes report? >> reporter: well, he says the way this report has it laid out, that a uvalde police officer had the gunman in his sights, sited him with his rifle and had the ability to take the gunman out is not accurate, saying the report, as you said, is not complete. he's taking issue in this line in this report saying this officer who could have taken the gunman out before he went into the school, you know, every day we cover this story there's something new that comes out, and for these families, this is what is so frustrating. they still have not gotten briefings from investigators about what happened at the school. but yet there are reports out there now, there's testimony from officials, and so this is what we talked to them about yesterday. i sat with almost 50 different family members yesterday, and this was one of the key things they were frustrated with. take a listen to some of what they said. >> just because of all the lies, the deceitfulness from the beginning, it was just l
cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz is in uvalde with more, so what exactly does thes report? >> reporter: well, he says the way this report has it laid out, that a uvalde police officer had the gunman in his sights, sited him with his rifle and had the ability to take the gunman out is not accurate, saying the report, as you said, is not complete. he's taking issue in this line in this report saying this officer who could have taken the gunman out before he went into the...
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now, again, this is according to sources who are talking to my colleague shimon prokupecz.to see if indeed pete arredondo has been notified about this meeting to ask for comment, to see if either pete arredondo or his attorney are planning to say something. we haven't heard anything. he's only done that one interview with the texas tribune, but i have not heard back. jim and poppy? >> rosa flores, we appreciate it very much. thank you. we'll see what happens. >>> in the age of streaming, all about subscribers. despite news that netflix lost nearly a million of them last quarter. investors are optimistic about the company's future. we'll explain why ahead. i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85, and looking to buy life insurance remember the three ps. what are the three ps? the three ps of life insurance on a fixed bget are price, price, and price. a price you can afford, a price that can't increase, and a price that fits your budget. i'm 54, what's my price? you can get coverage for $9.95 a month.
now, again, this is according to sources who are talking to my colleague shimon prokupecz.to see if indeed pete arredondo has been notified about this meeting to ask for comment, to see if either pete arredondo or his attorney are planning to say something. we haven't heard anything. he's only done that one interview with the texas tribune, but i have not heard back. jim and poppy? >> rosa flores, we appreciate it very much. thank you. we'll see what happens. >>> in the age of...
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again, according to sources, speaking to my colleague shimon prokupecz.m the get-go has been calling for accountability and now he says finally we might see it. take a listen. >> it is time for accountability in this community. and accountability means actually getting rid of people, people that screwed up need to leave, they need to resign, they need to quit, they need to be fired. and i think that they're going to start to see that happen, for my part at the state level. >> reporter: now, i reached out to pete arredondo's attorney and have not heard back. kaitlan? >> well, of course, this is going to be an interesting few days for them. we'll be waiting to see the updates. i know the parents are paying close attention as well. rosa flores, thank you for that update. >>> and "new day" continues right now. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world, it is wednesday, july 20th. i'm john berman. brianna is off. chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins is with us this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> here's a question,
again, according to sources, speaking to my colleague shimon prokupecz.m the get-go has been calling for accountability and now he says finally we might see it. take a listen. >> it is time for accountability in this community. and accountability means actually getting rid of people, people that screwed up need to leave, they need to resign, they need to quit, they need to be fired. and i think that they're going to start to see that happen, for my part at the state level. >>...
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joining us shimon prokupecz. shimon, first of all, just what are the headlines on this? revelations here kind of in the sense, yes, it paints the picture of complete chaos, of law enforcement not in charge of scene. a lot of what we're hearing and have heard about. but one significant piece of information they've been able to learn is there was actually a uvalde police officer who had the gunman in sight, in his rifle, he could see the gunman, could have taken the shot and perhaps taken out the gunman but he was waiting for a supervisor to give him permission to do so, which is not necessary. it's not needed. but by the time he spoke to his supervisor the gunman had already been gone and was able to get inside the school. so certainly, anderson, a missed opportunity there. and that's what this report touches on, a lot of the missed opportunities. >> and where does the investigation stand right now? >> right. so what we're waiting for now is for the texas officials, the house investigators to do their investigation. they're waiting for more testimony. they're trying to ge
joining us shimon prokupecz. shimon, first of all, just what are the headlines on this? revelations here kind of in the sense, yes, it paints the picture of complete chaos, of law enforcement not in charge of scene. a lot of what we're hearing and have heard about. but one significant piece of information they've been able to learn is there was actually a uvalde police officer who had the gunman in sight, in his rifle, he could see the gunman, could have taken the shot and perhaps taken out the...
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cnn's shimon prokupecz is here, with charles ramsey, law enforcement analyst. h for being here. shimon, we are hearing from the community tonight, a lot of them angry about this video being released. what does it show? >> well it is certainly disturbing, as you said don. you see the officers as they walk into the school, just retreat. there are shots, gunshots that are fired at the officers, by the gunman. and within moments, within minutes of those gunshots being fired. they start to pull back. and as you said, the community here today, very upset over this. angry over the way this video came out. this leak. they were expecting to see it on sunday. and the families were all going to gather together. and now, the first time they are seeing this is in this league that was given to the local newspaper. as you said, don. this video is disturbing, and certainly difficult to watch. [silence] [noise] the kids are running! [silence] [silence] get in the room! get in your room! [silence] [silence] [noise] [inaudible] [noise] [noise] [inaudible] [inaudible] [silence] [no
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one of the teachers spoke to shimon prokupecz and called the police cowards.lies from the beginning. it was like putting salt on an open wound, and it's just really hard because there's just so much suffering, and it's hard to grieve when there's no closure. >> one thing, those officers in the hallways, i want them to resign. >> you want all of those officers gone. >> yes. >> my mom protected those kids, but no one protected her. the whole police department here are cowards. >> my daughter was a fighter . took a bullet to the heart. she fought hard to stay alive. these cowards didn't go in. >> this latest report on the police response was based on school video, body cameras, radio logs, and officers' testimon testimony. reports from fbi, texas rangers, and othehers are yet to come. we'll be right back. onon a fixed budget, remember the three ps. what are the three ps? the three ps of life insurance on a fixed budget are price, price, and price. a price you can n afford, a price that can't increase, and a price that fits your budget. i'm 54, what's my price? yo
one of the teachers spoke to shimon prokupecz and called the police cowards.lies from the beginning. it was like putting salt on an open wound, and it's just really hard because there's just so much suffering, and it's hard to grieve when there's no closure. >> one thing, those officers in the hallways, i want them to resign. >> you want all of those officers gone. >> yes. >> my mom protected those kids, but no one protected her. the whole police department here are...
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shimon prokupecz has the latest information for us. what are you learning about this new report?porter: certainly, wolf, this is a missed opportunity here in this new report indicating that police had an opportunity. this report refers to a uvalde police officer who was responding to the scene. they believe had an opportunity to take the gunman out and what they write in this report is that they say the officer armed with a rifle that this officer asked his supervisor for permission to shoot the suspect, however, the supervisor either did not hear or responded too late and that the officer turned to get confirmation from the supervisor and when he turned back to address the suspect, he had entered the west hallway unabated. obviously we know what happened after that. and what this report says is that this officer clearly did not need permission. he saw someone entering the streets, he saw a person on the street entering the school with a rifle. he had legal authority to shoot this person and he didn't. obviously this all goes to this whole bigger story about how they were missed
shimon prokupecz has the latest information for us. what are you learning about this new report?porter: certainly, wolf, this is a missed opportunity here in this new report indicating that police had an opportunity. this report refers to a uvalde police officer who was responding to the scene. they believe had an opportunity to take the gunman out and what they write in this report is that they say the officer armed with a rifle that this officer asked his supervisor for permission to shoot...
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let's bring in shimon prokupecz. you're on the scene. what does the mayor say happened?rter: all because yesterday there was a report put out that indicated that a uvalde police officer had the gunman in sight with his rifle, could have taken him out, but he had asked a supervisor for permission. by the time the supervisor got back to the police officer, the gunman had entered the school. the mayor today sort of conducted his own investigation, it appears, and found out that's actually not the case. he's saying that's not accurate, that the person in sight of this police officer was actually a school coach with some children. it wasn't even the gunman, but again, this goes to the overall kind of fight over information, the inaccuracy, the different stories we keep getting from officials here. the mayor is -- off, because he feels a lot of it is one-sided. he put out the statement saying this latest information is not accurate. this is all an issue that is for the families. they are certainly very upset over how the information is coming out. they're also upset because th
let's bring in shimon prokupecz. you're on the scene. what does the mayor say happened?rter: all because yesterday there was a report put out that indicated that a uvalde police officer had the gunman in sight with his rifle, could have taken him out, but he had asked a supervisor for permission. by the time the supervisor got back to the police officer, the gunman had entered the school. the mayor today sort of conducted his own investigation, it appears, and found out that's actually not the...
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shimon prokupecz, we appreciate your reporting as always. i want to bring in senior law enforcement analyst and former fb deputy director andrew mccabe now. what is your reaction? >> ryan, i have been to a lot of crisis scenes and situations. none are pretty. it is always confusing and chaotic and stressful but this one stands out because of the complete and total lack of leadership. as you watch the video that we first saw last friday and now you add this to it, in all of these scenes it is impossible to identify one officer, one leader who seems to be in charge who's clearly executing leadership, coordinating communications, consol dating the intelligence about what's happening inside the room. critical functions to run a crisis scene are just missing and that's the thing that really jumps out to me watching the heartbreaking videos. >> obviously i don't have a law enforcement background. maybe there's part that understands that in a situation where you have an individual with a weapon that has a lot of ammunition in it and in a room with
shimon prokupecz, we appreciate your reporting as always. i want to bring in senior law enforcement analyst and former fb deputy director andrew mccabe now. what is your reaction? >> ryan, i have been to a lot of crisis scenes and situations. none are pretty. it is always confusing and chaotic and stressful but this one stands out because of the complete and total lack of leadership. as you watch the video that we first saw last friday and now you add this to it, in all of these scenes it...
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he sat down with cnn's shimon prokupecz. >> i think it is a univcoverup. >> for who? >> maybe his agencies. maybe he told the story that he told, you know, it is hard -- what what do they say, it is always hard when you tell a lie, you have to keep telling a lie. i'm not saying he was lying. maybe he was misled with the information. >> but he hadn't changed his story. and then he did the senate hearing. and i think -- >> this was -- >> and he was even more emphatic about chief arredondo being the man who was responsible for everything here, blaming everything on him. >> well, again, you know, every agency in that hallway will have to share the blacme. and i'll go back to when have you ever seen a federal or state law enforcement officer take their cues from local law enforcement. >> the governor -- i mean, they report directly to the governor. >> sure. >> so do you think that mccraw should step down, should resign? >> i think that he will have to be held accountable when this is all said and done too. we all are. i mean, your story can't change on something this horri
he sat down with cnn's shimon prokupecz. >> i think it is a univcoverup. >> for who? >> maybe his agencies. maybe he told the story that he told, you know, it is hard -- what what do they say, it is always hard when you tell a lie, you have to keep telling a lie. i'm not saying he was lying. maybe he was misled with the information. >> but he hadn't changed his story. and then he did the senate hearing. and i think -- >> this was -- >> and he was even more...
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and to wrestle with those questions and much more, i'm joined by crime correspondent shimon prokupeczo has been on the ground in uvalde since this happened. he's joining us here today. and two cnn law enforcement analysts, former fbi director andrew mccabe and former philadelphia police commissioner charles ram see. now, sometimes we're going to be talking as the video is playing and giving reporting and context and analysis. and sometimes we're going to be silent just to listen to what is happening. but here's an overview of what you're going to see. and i -- please don't look away. we'll see the gunman enter the school. you're going to see in real time, minute by minute how heavily armed and some heavily shielded officers spent all that time outside the door to those adjoining classrooms. you should also prepare yourself because we will play the sounds of the gunshots ringing out. now, that has not been played on cnn before. we initially didn't air the audio of the gunman firing out of respect for the victims' families, and we still maintain that respect. it's incredibly painful for
and to wrestle with those questions and much more, i'm joined by crime correspondent shimon prokupeczo has been on the ground in uvalde since this happened. he's joining us here today. and two cnn law enforcement analysts, former fbi director andrew mccabe and former philadelphia police commissioner charles ram see. now, sometimes we're going to be talking as the video is playing and giving reporting and context and analysis. and sometimes we're going to be silent just to listen to what is...
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. >> andrew mccabe, charles ramsey, shimon prokupecz we'll be back. thank you so much.you and i have seen tonight, some have seen even more. the state senator who represents uvalde is among the many still demanding answers and is going to join me next. (torstein vo) when you really philosophize about it, there's only one thing you don't have enough of. time is the only truly scarce commodity. when you come to that realization, i think it's very important that you spend your time wisely. and what better way of spending time than traveling, continuing to educate ourselves and broaden our minds? (woman vo) viking. exploring the world in comfort. >>> the texas house committee investigating the uvalde school massacre plans to officially release the full 77-minute surveillance video that we showed you tonight on sunday along with a report to victims' families. as the community continues to grieve, it's also trying to figure out how to keep another tragedy like this from happening ever again. i want to bring in texas state senator roland gutierrez, whose district includes uval
. >> andrew mccabe, charles ramsey, shimon prokupecz we'll be back. thank you so much.you and i have seen tonight, some have seen even more. the state senator who represents uvalde is among the many still demanding answers and is going to join me next. (torstein vo) when you really philosophize about it, there's only one thing you don't have enough of. time is the only truly scarce commodity. when you come to that realization, i think it's very important that you spend your time wisely....
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. >> andrew mccabe, charles ramsey, shimon prokupecz. we'll be back. thank you so much. all that you and i have seen tonight, some have seen even more. the state senator represents uvalde is among the many still demanding answers, is going to join me next. nurse mariyam sabo knows a moment this pure demands a lotion this pure. gold bond pure moisture lotion 24-hour hydration no parabens, dyes, or fragrances gold bond champion your skin in three seconds, fifteen couples will share a perfect moment. is that? oh wow! but we got to sell our houses! well, almost perfect. my place is too small; your place is too far. selling them means repairs, listings, cleanings. what's the market even like? this could take like... forever! or... more like days. skip the hassles and sell directly to opendoor. done. yes! oh yes. when life's doors open, we'll handle the house. >>> the texas house committee investigating the uvalde school massacre plans to officially release the full 77-minute surveillance video that we showed you tonight on sunday. along with a report to victims' families. and
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these developments, joining me now cnn correspondent and former supervisor josh campbell and shimon prokupeczde where a school board meeting is about to begin. shimon, you've been covering this story from the very start. what stands out to you from that body camera video? >> well, one of the things certainly, wolf, obviously we've talked a lot about the confusion. some of the actions that were going on outside of the school versus what was going on inside and it seems that none of the officers who were outside the school and certainly a lot of the officers inside the school had any clue what was going on. no one was working together. i managed to look through most of the video today, and i was just struck by how many officers were thinking independently, working on their own and not really working together as one team. all of the officers there. all of the different agencies, and how so many officers didn't know certain things that other officers do. there may have been an officer on the west side of the hall and they didn't know what the officer on the south side of the school knew. there wa
these developments, joining me now cnn correspondent and former supervisor josh campbell and shimon prokupeczde where a school board meeting is about to begin. shimon, you've been covering this story from the very start. what stands out to you from that body camera video? >> well, one of the things certainly, wolf, obviously we've talked a lot about the confusion. some of the actions that were going on outside of the school versus what was going on inside and it seems that none of the...
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shimon prokupecz explains. >> reporter: i'm certainly noticing a difference between the families, they are kind of finding their voice. they are starting to really speak out, they are starting to organize, they are starting to voice their opinions, their unhappiness, they want accountability, they want chief peter arredondo fired. he is the school police chief. he's been onned a menstruate difference leave. but the central theme here tonight, we want him fired. i've been to other meetings here with the parents, this is a school board meeting, they usually don't speak out as much. but the difference is noticeable. and i think it is this report that came out, listing all of the problems, some of the deficiencies in the school security and some of the failures on the part of the school. and i really do think seeing images now from inside the school, the body camera footage that we obtained and that the mayor ultimately released as well as the other images from inside the school, they are starting to get information. they are starting to see things and they are starting to become angrier a
shimon prokupecz explains. >> reporter: i'm certainly noticing a difference between the families, they are kind of finding their voice. they are starting to really speak out, they are starting to organize, they are starting to voice their opinions, their unhappiness, they want accountability, they want chief peter arredondo fired. he is the school police chief. he's been onned a menstruate difference leave. but the central theme here tonight, we want him fired. i've been to other meetings...
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cnn's shimon prokupecz spoke to some of them. he joins us now.it is still hard to hear. >> reporter: it is very hard to hear. but, john, the thing that is frustrating them so much, it is the way the information is coming out, authorities here are not even giving them any kind of meetings, direct meetings with the investigators. they're not giving them a heads up that these reports are coming out. so the families are very frustrated, they're upset, they're angry. we spoke to the father of a little girl, jackie casarez, we spoke to the sister of the teacher irma garcia, her son who has spoken for first time and also her brother, irma garcia's brother, who happens to be a police officer, and, of course, their anger and frustration over the fact that police could not go in is just something that continues to fuel their anger. >> just because of all the lies, the deceitfulness from the begin i ing, it was just like putting salt on an open wound. just really hard because there's just so much suffering. and it is hard to grieve when there's no closure.
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sh shimon prokupecz has the latest. >> all of this coming on the heels of that contentious and certainlychool board meeting last night in uvalde where parents really for the first time, together, at a school board meeting, went after the school board, insisting that pete arredondo, the school police chief who's been accused of essentially being the on scene commander and doing nothing and not taking the leadership role. that body came footage has come out showing police confused, lacking any kind of instruction and leadership. as a result of that all that and of the fact that investigators say that arredondo was the on scene commander, the family members are demanding that the school board fire him. that the superintendent fire him. listen to what some of the familid st night. >> if he's not fired by noon tomorrow, then i want your resignation and every single one of you board members because y'all do not give a damn about our children or us. >> the current staff is incompetent and liable for the already massive failures. you need to clean house. you need to start from zero. >> what are
sh shimon prokupecz has the latest. >> all of this coming on the heels of that contentious and certainlychool board meeting last night in uvalde where parents really for the first time, together, at a school board meeting, went after the school board, insisting that pete arredondo, the school police chief who's been accused of essentially being the on scene commander and doing nothing and not taking the leadership role. that body came footage has come out showing police confused, lacking...
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. >>> well, cnn's shimon prokupecz was given exclusive access to the city of uvalde's police body camhis reporting takes us inside the school as the tragedy unfolded. that's coming up next hour on "cnn newsroom." >>> well, here's a stark reminder of the many young lives lost to gun violence in the u.s. each year. it's now the number one killer. a procession of empty school buses meant to represent the thousands of u.s. children killed by firearms was sent towards the office of senator ted cruz in texas on thursday. it was organized by the anti-gun violence group nra children's museum, and it was part of a protest against politicians who have received contributions from gun rights interests like the national rifle association. inside of the buss were photos, videos, and personal effects of children who have been killed in recent school shootings. the empty seats symbolize the more than 4,300 children and teens who were killed by gun violence in 2020. that's the year the cdc said firearms became the leading cause of death for u.s. children for the first time ever. >>> another tragic exa
. >>> well, cnn's shimon prokupecz was given exclusive access to the city of uvalde's police body camhis reporting takes us inside the school as the tragedy unfolded. that's coming up next hour on "cnn newsroom." >>> well, here's a stark reminder of the many young lives lost to gun violence in the u.s. each year. it's now the number one killer. a procession of empty school buses meant to represent the thousands of u.s. children killed by firearms was sent towards the...
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shimon prokupecz has the latest. >> reporter: the uvalde school board is moving towards terminating thehief peter arredondo, this of course all coming on the heels of that contentious board meeting. parents demanding that he be fired. what we're told is that in the next couple of days, there will be a process, there is a process under way and perhaps by saturday there will be a school board meeting and that is where ultimately the decision will be made. he could resign before then, that is something certainly that could happen. so the next few days here, we'll certainly see some of this develop and perhaps as early as saturday, he will be terminated. back to you. >>> for the first time in seven years, the u.s. bureau of alcohol, firearms and explosives has a permanent director. he was confirmed by the senate and ceremonially sworn in on tuesday. he acknowledged he has a lot on his plate and he vowed to meet the challenges head-on. >> rising crime, rising firearm violence, rising mass shooting incidents, it will take all of us in this nation in law enforcement working together to address
shimon prokupecz has the latest. >> reporter: the uvalde school board is moving towards terminating thehief peter arredondo, this of course all coming on the heels of that contentious board meeting. parents demanding that he be fired. what we're told is that in the next couple of days, there will be a process, there is a process under way and perhaps by saturday there will be a school board meeting and that is where ultimately the decision will be made. he could resign before then, that...
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. >> our correspondent shimon prokupecz who has been asking a lot of questions about this story from the time that it happened, he sat down with that robb elementary schoolteacher who survived the shooting but lost several students in his classroom and this is what he was told. >> i mean, they probably thought we were all dead or something. but still would have got in be before, some of them probably would have made it. >> that reinforces what you were saying there. what do you think hearing that? >> mr. reyes, my heart goes out to that guy. laying there for at least an hour, playing dead, he probably would have bled out, he lost 70% of his blood and had he not played dead, he may have bled out all the way. i think he remained calm. i can only imagine what he's going through, not being able to move, having that guy flick blood in his face, it just brings up a rage inside of me, that these guys that are -- they signed up to serve and protect and they didn't. they just didn't do it. we're going to keep pushing. >> you're going to keep pushing. and, kim, we're going to keep talking with
. >> our correspondent shimon prokupecz who has been asking a lot of questions about this story from the time that it happened, he sat down with that robb elementary schoolteacher who survived the shooting but lost several students in his classroom and this is what he was told. >> i mean, they probably thought we were all dead or something. but still would have got in be before, some of them probably would have made it. >> that reinforces what you were saying there. what do...
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rosa flores, shimon prokupecz, thank you. we'll return to you as you get more information, more reaction from family members there in uvalde. >>> with us now former deputy director of the fbi andrew mccabe and a former assistant secretary of the department of homeland security and a professor at harvard university, good to see both of you. your reaction to this report. does it shed more light? does it make you more curious? what are your thoughts? >> well, the report is incredibly damning and it is in ways i think were largely predictable at least by those of us who spent a lot of time tracking the reporting coming out of uvalde and examining the video footage we were able to really go through last friday. and basically it breaks down the criticism ainto three buckets. they called the school out for what they referred to as a kind of lackadaisical attitude to school safety, citing such things as the fence not being high enough to keep people off the property, the doors weren't routinely locked though there was a policy requir
rosa flores, shimon prokupecz, thank you. we'll return to you as you get more information, more reaction from family members there in uvalde. >>> with us now former deputy director of the fbi andrew mccabe and a former assistant secretary of the department of homeland security and a professor at harvard university, good to see both of you. your reaction to this report. does it shed more light? does it make you more curious? what are your thoughts? >> well, the report is...
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all these are split second decisions, shimon prokupecz joins us from san antonio. what other headlines stood out to you from this report? >> reporter: just the utter chaos going on at the scene that day and how there was really no one, no one in charge. there is different levels of command, outside, inside, people need to take leadership roles and the leadership role can be just the first officer on the scene, and that did not happen. and also the other thing is they talk about momentum, we talked aya lot about this, the first few minutes when the gunman arrived on scene, the missed opportunities there, when they could have possibly killed the gunman, the officers were still trying to figure out what to do, allowing the gunman inside the school and then, of course, we know what happened after that. the report speaks about that officer that was a uvalde police officer, arriving on scene, who had a sight, he had through his rifle he could see the gunman and could have, could have fired at the gunman and here's what the report says, it says that the officer armed with
all these are split second decisions, shimon prokupecz joins us from san antonio. what other headlines stood out to you from this report? >> reporter: just the utter chaos going on at the scene that day and how there was really no one, no one in charge. there is different levels of command, outside, inside, people need to take leadership roles and the leadership role can be just the first officer on the scene, and that did not happen. and also the other thing is they talk about momentum,...
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cnn's shimon prokupecz is live in uvalde this morning. there are two things going on here, one, there is this report that was released and then separate from that the mayor providing this body cam footage, a look we just haven't seen before of what went on inside the school. right. and the mayor providing it to cnn first. we have been asking for this video, everyone has been asking for this video and there was concern the district attorney did not want this video out there, she did not want this released but the mayor saying this needed to come out because of transparency. what this decision-making, what was going on in the minds of these officers. a lot of it inaccurate, wrong information, not knowing how urgent the situation was. so we see officers making terrible decisions, not understanding exactly what they were dealing with and we should warn our viewers that some of the images they are about to see they may find disturbing. >> shots fired. get inside. go. go. go. >> reporter: new body cam video released by the uvalde mayor shows th
cnn's shimon prokupecz is live in uvalde this morning. there are two things going on here, one, there is this report that was released and then separate from that the mayor providing this body cam footage, a look we just haven't seen before of what went on inside the school. right. and the mayor providing it to cnn first. we have been asking for this video, everyone has been asking for this video and there was concern the district attorney did not want this video out there, she did not want...
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that's according to the incredible sources that my colleague shimon prokupecz has. ndo they plan to meet saturday to determine his fate and further, that the board plans to vote to terminate him. this according to shimon's sources. i reached out to arredondo's attorney. i have not heard back. >> parents are asking for apparena accoun accountability. the state agency tasked with disciplining police officers in texas says it doesn't have the authority to do so in this case. how come? >> reporter: you know, the description of the authority that they have is, quote, toothless. let me take you through this. in the state of texas, the agency regulates law enforcement and you and i both have seen that surveillance video, the bodycam video. i think it begs the question, should these police officers keep their badges. that's why i reached out and asked that question. will these findings be used to discipline officers? the response i got was that they don't really have the power to do anything based on these findings, based on this video. i did a little more digging. turns out
that's according to the incredible sources that my colleague shimon prokupecz has. ndo they plan to meet saturday to determine his fate and further, that the board plans to vote to terminate him. this according to shimon's sources. i reached out to arredondo's attorney. i have not heard back. >> parents are asking for apparena accoun accountability. the state agency tasked with disciplining police officers in texas says it doesn't have the authority to do so in this case. how come?...
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i want to bring in cnn's shimon prokupecz, who is on the ground in uvalde, and police commissioner charles you both tonight. we're seeing so much what's happening. i want to know, shimon, from where you are, you're on the ground in uvalde, you've been there since the beginning, pursuing the truth that the families deserve. you heard from the family members. you've heard a little girl, you heard an older sister of someone who passed away and that classroom. what's been the fallout from this report that's just been issued in the new body camera video? one of the families, what's the community saying? >> well, i will tell you one thing, laura. i'm certainly noticing a difference with the families. they're kind of finding their voice. they're starting to really speak out, they're starting to organize, they're starting to voice their opinions, their unhappiness. they want accountability, they want chief pete arredondo fired, is the school police chief. he's been on administrative leave. but the central themes of tonight was we want him fired. i've been to others meetings here with parents. this
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let's bring in cnn's shimon prokupecz. what are the victims' families telling you?frustrated. and jake, that frustration continues. they were completely blind sided by the release of this video. you know, this video is so disturbing to watch. specifically in the beginning. in the first moments of when this shooting takes place, when you see officers running in. they're going, there's gunfire at that moment. they are going towards the gunfire, but then they stop and they retreat, and then the officers just never gain momentum again. families so angry over the release of this video, take a listen to what one of the family members had to say. >> it's been up to this point where it's been almost radio silence from the investigation. there's been nothing coming out, nothing new. nothing that we don't know. they told us that the video would be shown to family on sunday and released to the public, yet we logon facebook and it's there for the whole world to see before we even saw it. >> and that's the thing, jake. the family members, they did want this video released. they
let's bring in cnn's shimon prokupecz. what are the victims' families telling you?frustrated. and jake, that frustration continues. they were completely blind sided by the release of this video. you know, this video is so disturbing to watch. specifically in the beginning. in the first moments of when this shooting takes place, when you see officers running in. they're going, there's gunfire at that moment. they are going towards the gunfire, but then they stop and they retreat, and then the...
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let's go now live to shimon prokupecz, who is breaking this news. i understand you have been given access to some body cam footage that the rest of us have not seen up until this point. just walk us through what you've been able to obtain and the significance as to what it could tell us about what happened on that day. >> reporter: well, certainly, ryan, it paints the chaos of the day. we've spent the day reporting about the investigative committee's findings. and a lot of it talks about the chaos of the day, the lack of command. and what we see in this newly body camera footage that we obtained from the mayor, the mayor here of the city of uvalde releasing it to us first. what you see here is a picture of officers really not in control. you have officers outside of the school trying to assess the situation, and then you have officers inside. and specifically for the first time, we've seen that video, ryan, of the inside of the school, the hallway of the school. for the first time now on this body camera footage, we see pete arradondo, the school po
let's go now live to shimon prokupecz, who is breaking this news. i understand you have been given access to some body cam footage that the rest of us have not seen up until this point. just walk us through what you've been able to obtain and the significance as to what it could tell us about what happened on that day. >> reporter: well, certainly, ryan, it paints the chaos of the day. we've spent the day reporting about the investigative committee's findings. and a lot of it talks about...
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i want to bring in shimon prokupecz, who is leading our fight for truth on the ground in uvalde, and ssioner, charles ramsey. we're seeing so much that's happening. i want to know, shimon, from where you are, you're on the ground in uvalde, pursuing the truth the families deserve. you've heard from the family members. you've heard a little girl. you've heard an older sister of somebody that passed away in that classroom. what are the families, what's the community say sng. >> reporter: well, i will tell you one thing, laura, i'm certainly noticing a difference with the families is that they're becoming -- they're kind of finding their voice. they're starting to really speak out. they're starting to organize. they're starting to voice their opinions, their unhappiness. they want accountability. they want chief peter arredondo fired. he's the school police chief. he's been on administrative leave. but the central theme tonight was we want him fired. i've been to other meetings here with the parents. this is a school board meeting. they usually don't speak out as much. but, you know, the
i want to bring in shimon prokupecz, who is leading our fight for truth on the ground in uvalde, and ssioner, charles ramsey. we're seeing so much that's happening. i want to know, shimon, from where you are, you're on the ground in uvalde, pursuing the truth the families deserve. you've heard from the family members. you've heard a little girl. you've heard an older sister of somebody that passed away in that classroom. what are the families, what's the community say sng. >> reporter:...
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andrew mccabe, shimon prokupecz, i appreciate it. >> much ahead from today's historic seventh hearing. did the former president try to contact a witness personally? more on that, john dean also joins us who said he wanted a, quote, pat cipollone moment, and emotional scenes for capitol hill police officers who survived the attack. we're coming right back. under budget too! and i get t seven days to love it or my y money back... i love it! i thought online meant no one t to help me, but...