americans rightly expect social security administration will be a responsible steward of taxpayer fundshowever for the fiscal year 2021 the ssa issued approximately $2.49 billion in improper payments for social security $4.91 billion for ssi. the agency has additional tools to prevent improper payments before they occur in the agency should use them for their task with the the ssa plays a critical role in making sure the administration, congress, the public have accurate and timely information about the program's long-term finances. the first time in over a decade social security trustees report was delivered to congress by the statutory april 1 deadline. not a suggestion. governor o'malley if confirmed face immense challenges the social security administration back on track. deserve nothing less. i look forward during your testimony and to test to the questions to better understand hated evaluate and address customer service challenges. what specific data you would look at to evaluate the use of telework customer how you would ensure the ssa independent status will be your top areas of

we have a lot of home state pride to the social security administration headquartered in maryland where it's been for 88 years, since social security was originally passed with the work of the congress, working with a president. we have a lot of pride in this where as i said first in downtown city of baltimore and acnow in woodlawn. back in the 1930s when people were choking on the dustbowl or not working in the rust bowl, american standard a safety net, and that's when social security was created. 488 years the administration of social security did not miss a payment, but it's in much need of management reform. the chairman, the ranking member, others have catalogued all of the constituents of every services that are so familiar to this committee and the due diligence applying to fix it. but so many americans depend on the social security not only as a lifeline that a life preserver that keeps them afloat. the challenges of the social security administration are vast. but the hard-working men and women of the social security administration need s a strong, confirmed, operational leader

, nearly 1 million americans, like steven and becky sword, received a letter from the social security administration saying that due to a government miscalculation, they owed social security money, a lot of money. in their case $51,887. the swords were asked to repay it within 30 days. >> are you scared? >> he's thinking we're going to lose our house. what are we going to do? i mean, we were very scared. >>> there are roughly 1,800 monkeys on cayo santiago. they live in isolation in what is a natural laboratory. today scientists are studying how the stress of a devastating hurricane affected their overall health and relationships and what that might teach us about ourselves, since we share 94% of our dna with them. >>> i'm lesley stahl. >> i'm bill whitaker. >> i'm anderson cooper. >> i'm sharyn alfonsi. >> i'm jane wertheim. >> and i'm cecelia vega. >> i'm scott pelley. those stories and in our last minute, an update on the war in the middle east. tonight on "60 minutes." (woman) what if my type 2 diabetes takes over? what if all i do isn't enough? or what if i can do diabetes differently? (vo) now

understood this issue can understand, and then we go to a rally and say money for the social security administrationr the social security administration, well, of those communities that have been taken from us by the ddf to date, they are left without money anyway, they have an average of 30 million there, a small otg. kharkiv oblast lost ee from this law, i am not talking about the regional budget, which lost 1.6 billion, according to the estimates of our experts, 1.6 billion. i am not talking about the city budget, which lost at least 5 billions, billions, not millions, and today we are spending money on the armed forces in those communities in which we already withdrew the pdf, and they will be in surplus, uh, and i'm about a very simple scheme: gentlemen, let's all know what development is, the development budget in the united territorial communities of any level, let's forbid it to be used for the development budget, let's leave to the united territorial communities for the time of martial law only defense expenses, for defensive buildings, for current repairs and no new buildings, no paths, no

august or september, this is a residential building, and a hotel, then, the next time the social security administration people there. 19 people for our employees were injured, it was 8:30, you understand, this is just a terrorist action, some kind, against the civilian population, well, actually, pokrovsk is a city, well, i’ll tell you, who might not have tracked the geography of the donetsk region separately there, which goes to the west, if there through seridov, further from avdiyivka, where heavy battles are currently taking place, it certainly not 3 km and not 10, in fact, it is much more, but in any case this is a city that the enemy will attack in one way or another, if he cannot use tanks, then he will beat... it is getting cold now, of course the enemy can strengthen strikes on critical infrastructure facilities as well, how the city prepares for this, well, again without giving away secrets, because we are talking about a city that is not far from the front line, yes, we had a survey that year, where we are we had a hard time, blackouts, now we are more or less ready, despite our own 19 boile

the social security administration. executive director of the pension benefit guaranty corporation. out of government and investment banker. co-founder, a risk management company. and he just was talking about it. chairman recently of the new art museum and greenwich bruce museum just opened up place he says where art mts so i thought i'm going to go see but most importantly to bpc he was the co-chair with former senator kent conrad on one of our in fact one of our best sellers. the report on the commission on retirement security and pension savings 2016. i can tell you it still being used on capitol hill today by the recommendations in here reted to social security and thank you to the staff for continuing that work on there. finally and appropriate think for this and the title of his book jim served his country as a veteran lieutenant j.g. in the navy in the underwater on nuclear submarines. as i recall. and how could i forget? he's a senior here at bpc. so welcome and our informal steve scully senior vice president communications to discuss america underwater sinking. time to wit

the social security administration says the only way to find out if you qualify is to apply online. >> 10 49, the time in the white house says that more than 800,000 student loan borrowers will soon receive notification that their debt has been forgiven. the notification email will come directly from president biden in the message reads, quote, congratulations. your student loan has been forgiven because of actions my administration took to make sure you receive the relief you earned and deserve. the president has forgiven some 127 billion dollars in student loan debt so far to about 3.5 million borrowers. 10, 50 is the time of judge overseeing the estate of deceased singer rretha franklin has awarded her real estate property to her sons. monday's decision came 4 months after a jury determined that a handwritten will one from 2010 and the other from 2014 found between couch cushions. were valid and legal documents franklin's 4 houses will now go to her 4 sons. how franklin's music assets will be distributed. that's another question that still being decided. franklin died of pancreatic

there are seniors, and any, you know, activity from the social security administration that isn't supportingrative is what i hope to tap into, along a career in congress. that is around a lot of issues, but it starts with what mission number one is this week, and hopefully, that is of aberdeen a government shutdown. >> you got your hands full. congressman-elect, gabe abo. i gotta tell you, i've got a nine year old daughter. when i see people like you, and others, that not only have the enthusiasm, but they have the experience, the private system, and this optimism that things will get better, because they make it better. that makes me feel good. all of my daughter know that i interviewed you today, shall be excited. thank you for joining us, congressman-elect. after, tonight you will be congressman from the great state of rhode island. >> thank, you katie. please tell your daughter hello from me. >> i well. thank you. my thanks to all of you, viewers, friends, for joining me this morning. i'll be back here next saturday and sunday at 8 am easte. remember, you keep up with us during the week

the social security administration says the only way to find out if you qualify is to apply online. >> 8.26 is the time. and coming up next, an east bay city has been praised as the hottest place for real estate in the entire country. realtors in that city, though, are archer. take a closer look. we're also tracking roads and what you can expect you head out the door this morning, a few early morning showers have made pretty damp out there. love your full forecast with john in just a minute. another one in the books. but we're just getting started. everything going well? oh yeah. let's take a look at this knee. because it's the work behind the scenes, that truly matters. [ physical therapy staff discusses results ] for your mind. for your body. and for the community. for all that is me, for all that is you. kaiser permanente. that is definitely him. dude, that's just a guy taking a little break with a peppermint frosty. i gotta ask him. hello? hi. mind if i sit? okay. and now get 20% off in the wendy's app when you include a frosty. >> a 29. and since the rain is kind of moving, i wer

and yes, cut the social security administration's operating budget by more than $3 billion.would shutter field offices and eliminate service for seniors. it's interesting to me that when it comes to the programs that are encompassed in the labor-health-human services and education appropriations bills, that there's a great worry about a deficit, there's a great worry about borrowing. but when we did $2 trillion for the richest one tenth of one percent of the people in this country and the biggest corporations who pay no taxes, no one batted an eyelash. we continue on that road of looking at the biggest corporations who pay no taxes and we will continue to make sure that they profit. and that working families, middle class families, the most vulnerable families, are at risk because someone has decided that it's no time to borrow and it's no time to make public investments in their lives. i reserve. the chair: the gentlelady reserves. mr. schweikert: i'm not going to go into correcting the math but i would point out, democrats functionally through the biden have borrowed $4.8

administration. and we will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in american history. and, unlike ron desanctimonious, i will always protect social securitynnot have an administration that takes foreign policy advice from ilhan omar or rashida tlaib. can't do that i kept america safe. i kept israel safe. i kent ukraine safe. and i kept the world safe. >> ainsley: former president donald trump once again speaking the g.o.p. -- at the g.o.p. owe at the same time as the g.o.p. debate to hold this massive rally down in the sunshine state. same city, same time. it comes as trump is now beating biden head-to-head in a hypothetical matchup as well as key battleground states. he gets four out of the five. biden only gets one. so let's bring in our panel former michigan goop candidate cantu doordixon. >> hi, thanks for joining us. what did you think of -- first we will start with donald trump. what did you think of his rally last night and what he said? he is not wrong israel was not hit during his time in office. >> absolutely. the country is looking for that right now. they are looking for that strength. they are looking for someone who is comin

this cody of the attack was posted on social media, but it is really for administrative. 2 palestinian suspects were killed on the same fine security forces. well, news of the attack came shortly after a truce between israel and him. us militants was extended into a 7th day germany. the us and other countries consider whom us a terrorist group. negotiations on prolonging the pause and fighting which began last friday came right down to the wire. the truce was brought the 1st break and the is rarely bombardment of the gaza strip since the last terrace tax on it on israel. on october 7th, those attacks killed more than 1200 people in saul, 240 taken hostage causes health ministry, which is run by him. us says more than 15000 people in the gaza strip have since been killed in this really strikes to a while ago. i spoke with our correspondent tony kramer in jerusalem. she gave us more on the attack in jerusalem as well as you said, this happened to you in the early morning hours. you know, at the time when a lot of people are going to work and be seen on the footage, step 2 of the how the senior tech is got out of the car, shooting at

administrative leave. >> she has not been fired? >> bret: our next guest over anti-semitic comments posted by homeland security officer on social media as rich just mentioned. josh hawley, republican on the homeland security committee. senator hawley, thanks for being on. want to get your reaction to that back and forth and what you took away from that exchange. >> what i took away, bret, is this individual is still on the payroll of dhs which means she is getting paid with u.s. taxpayer dollars and quebecly concerning. she is an asylum and immigration officer who posted on linkedin that she handles many refugee cases. i asked the secretary how many cases has she handled and handled cases involving jewish applicants and handled applicants who may have ties to hamas? he wouldn't answer me. i said have you conducted a review of all her cases? i think the answer is no. this is extraordinary to have this kind of a person on the payroll deciding these critical cases and dhs doesn't appear to be doing anything about it. >> bret: you've grilled secretary mayokas before on border questions. there is no love lost there. i think you've called

under the attack of the social policy administration, this is absolutely civilian infrastructure, no military ones objects within a radius of several dozen meetings of the un securityhe urgent meeting of the un security council was devoted to the massive shelling that donetsk was subjected to on tuesday. these are conscious and cynical crimes that do not have a statute of limitations. but kremlin cynicism is a topic for a separate conversation. we will now deal with it in detail upon arrival. and the first thing you should pay attention to is the evacuation of advice. shown by one of the russian journalists. look at the picture carefully. come on, put him in the car. that is, a group of military personnel loads in a fast person in camouflage, excuse me, but these are definitely social service workers. infrastructure. but the secret does not become obvious if you dwell on the details. look at what a wonderful sign got into the frame, it is obvious that propaganda has forgotten an important argument. that is, there can be no question of any social object. a commemorative plaque to the hero of russia was opened at the bpl training center in donetsk, donetsk city, 49 c

victoria coates, former deputy national security adviser, where to start, i guess let's start with social media thing, and these officials in the biden administration posting personal thoughts on line and that lawyer from the veterans affairs department who posted that video about whining about hostages. >> it's extraordinary, john. and when i was serving in the white house the personnel office took down all of our social media accounts, noted them down, and then monitored them. and i actually got a, sort of humorous report of philadelphia sports and they were watching. and these employees of the american people, government employees, thought this was permissible behavior is really shocking and shows you somebody is asleep at the wheel. >> john: all right, next issue, this just in to us, a bulletin, u.s. warship in the red sea north of the strait between yemen and border, shot down a drone fired by houthi controlled yemen. they are still at it. >> at it and more and more frequently. >> john: this morning. >> i don't know if it was attack 75 or 76 over the last month. but this is not close to israel, i mean, this is all the way down, the saudi penin

eliminating the 5-month waiting period for als patients to get social security disability benefits and working with the food and drug administration to get several new als treatments on the market for the first time in years and they are not done yet. i hope the aging committee is inspired by brian as i am and as i always am and i look forward to hearing his recommendations how we can continue to utilize patient voice to make progress for als families. that is a statement from senator dick durbin. our second witness, maureen bell, was diagnosed with a classic -- i want to pronounce this right. good luck to see mia --gulaktasemia. she's an advocate for those living with this disease and a helpful resource for new patients with newly diagnosed children. thank you for sharing your experiences and your story with us. now i turn to ranking member bron for two witness introductions. >> thank you, mr. chairman. my pleasure to introduce doctor margaret plews-ogan from the university of virginia, who attended harvard medical school and completing residency at brigham and women's hospital in boston and in december 2021 peggy's husband james

expensive to write checks to it in this period, the johnson administration is experiencing an enlargement of the afdc rolls. it is also through social security amendments, increase housing benefits to afdc recipients. so there is a rising price tag and gosh, it you haven't accomplished what you told us. you were going to accomplish. now, the logical question here is who thinks you're going to solve in 18 months? all right. but the sixties are a tense time and perhaps it was not illegitimate for people who had supported the act to be saying to the administration. look, you've got to give us some concrete sign of progress or we cannot continue selling this to the folks back home. what you're seeing here is kind of the opening wedge that is going to undermine support for this approach in the congress. and then the third piece is social movement. demand social movement impacts. as i said at the top, one of the unique of this face of, american social policy development is the degree to which social movements were prominent. and i think it's fair to say, influential in shaping poverty outcomes. so let's at those we want look at, we're going to loo

here and there, the security bloc, it was somehow like this, the positions were like this, there in general the social lift could have been very large in the regional administrationyou will be the senior of the sixth floors, and then here is the regional administration, it was, i don’t know how to say it correctly, this was all this was the territory of the dpr, exactly within this building, every floor there, so here is coal, here there is shakhtersk, here there, slavyansk, as it were, yes , that is, they wrote, you’ve already got one big building , yes, this is exactly what was, as it were, the first state, that’s as far as one can say, so... i was part of this, then there was the situation in mariupol, 16 in my opinion april, when we were invited, we were asked to provide security for the rally in front of the military unit of the internal troops, and it was a trap, they just lured us there so that those who were the most , let’s say, passionate, the most active, in order to punish them, as it were, that is, then it was already carried out in different regions of ukraine, yes, well, just to shoot, as it were, that is, such punitive... since it’s like in odessa

social security services shrugged off our call to the service and explained that they had not been relocating disabled people for a long time and... this subsidy is the competence of the administrationthey sent the letter, the head was never able to answer, do you not know the laws, or did you deliberately delay this moment, here’s how to understand this, we are looking for different options, maybe consider option to rent an apartment somewhere else, that is, you offer them to pay for rented housing in another building where there will be a ramp, i didn’t say that we are offering to pay, this issue is being resolved, in the bureaucratic ping-pong the investigative committee decided to intervene, there started checking. it is reported that a request was previously sent to the authorized bodies to provide the man with suitable housing, but to date the situation has not changed. how long will a disabled person have to wait to move is a vital question ; firstly, the health of anatoly’s mother is deteriorating all the time, including from such daily management. and the century-old building threatens to collapse like a house of cards, the roofs have rotted, god forbid they can withstand t

on c-span2, next social security menstruation commissioner nominate martin o'malley testifies at his confirmation hearing. treasury secretary janet yellen speaks of the bite administration priorities for the global economy in relation to the endo pacific. later a separatist state antony blinken talks about the israel hamas war as he departs for a trip to the middle east. that and much more tonight on cspan2. ♪ mandate watch c-span series in partnership with the library of congress books that shaped america will feature novel their eyes were watching god. the story set in central and southern florida and the jim crow era explores life within the african-american community, race relations, gender role and female empowerment. the book written in 1937 is considered a harlot renaissance classic has been highly influential in african americans and women's literature. tiffany ruby patterson professor of history at vanderbilt university will join us on the program to discuss the book she is the author and a history of southern life. watch books that shaped america featuring their eyes were watching god monday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span now our free mobile video app

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there the security bloc , something like this, i was in office like this, they went around like that, there in general the social elevator could have been very large in the regional administrationhe minister of defense, he says this, you will be the senior of the sixth floor, and then here the regional administration, it was... i don’t know how to say it correctly, this, this , this was all the territory of the dpr, exactly within this building, every floor there, so here is coal, here there is shakhtersk, here there, slavyansk , as if yes, that is, they wrote, you are already one big building, yes, this is exactly what was , as it were, the first state, that’s as far as one can say, so i was part of it, then there was the situation in mariupol, 16th -to my april. when we were invited we were asked to provide security for the rally before military unit of the internal troops, it was a trap, we were simply lured there so that those who were the most, let’s say, passionate, the most active, in order to punish them, as it were, that is, then it was already carried out in different regions of ukraine, yes, well, just shoot, as it were, that is, such punitive operations , like in od

administrative costs. be cautious of look alike and fake websites and emails they are out there. if you're asked for detailed personal information like your social securityumber or your bank account number, it is likely a scam. so be careful and also be cautious when making electronic donations like those via text, qr codes and portable credit card readers. also check the charity's registry status on the department of justice's state registry of charitable trust sites, just to make sure it is up to speed. >> couple extra things to do, but it's worth it. absolutely >> no question. >> all right. it's time to get a check on the weather last week of november. >> last week of november, i believe it. >> hope you had a great thanksgiving. what gorgeous weather we enjoyed it. is cool, though, sandy. it is. >> and it's only going to get chillier as we head towards tomorrow morning. dan and it's starting to feel like we're heading towards december. let me show you what you can expect. the frost advisory. moments ago just got expanded to includes parts of the east bay as well. that frost advisory starts at 10 p.m. tonight, runs until 9 a.m. tomorrow. temperatures i

harris administration, those historic pieces of legislation, hit my community here in rhode island and we are making sure everybody has opportunity to thrive. it also means we are protecting social securityedicare. protecting our sacred freedom from the intrusion of legislators in medical decisions and, of course, making sure we stop the scourge of gun violence. of course, we don't have that majority in the house. we can make noise and make it clear. there is a choice for americans around this country. and hopefully, that is something that we can get some progress on when we have speaker hakeem jeffries after november. >> all right, thank you for joining us and congratulations, again. representative-elect gabe amo. and tomorrow, we'll talk more about this week's victories for democrats with the chair of the dnc, jaime harrison. right here on politicsnation. coming up, a history making win for democrats in virginia. we'll talk about, it next. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. richard? >> thank, you. rave stories we're watching this hour. israel's prime minister saying today, they'll be no cease-fire with hamas before all hostages are returned. benjamin net

social security for the elderly. i'm greatly concerned about republicans who are considering cutting social security for the elderly. host: next is joe dean shandler, arizona, independent line. caller: my biggest issue is the border. the biden administration has invited all the people who came into the country in the last five years without any exception. there are people being departed. we, as taxpayers are forced to pay for them. i find that to be reprehensible, that our government would allow a and would subsidize it. that is probably one of my greatest concerns, going into the 2024 election. host: the border and the fentanyl crisis were also a topic in the debate. >> i was speaking to a dad. his son was not a drug addict. he took a pill that happened to be laced with fentanyl and it was a fatal overdose. the pain of losing a child is as bad as it gets, but the salt in the wound is that those in d.c. do not care about what is going on in the country. they do not care that we have opioid deaths. they are not taking the type of action that we need them to. stopping the invasion and even building a portable and having mexico pay for it. mexico is not going to hand over money. we are going to designate the cartels foreign terrorist organiz

social security for the elderly. i'm greatly concerned about republicans who are considering cutting social security for the elderly. host: next is joe dean shandler, arizona, independent line. caller: my biggest issue is the border. the biden administration has invited all the people who came into the country in the last five years without any exception. there are people being departed. we, as taxpayers are forced to pay for them. i find that to be reprehensible, that our government would allow a and would subsidize it. that is probably one of my greatest concerns, going into the 2024 election. host: the border and the fentanyl crisis were also a topic in the debate. >> i was speaking to a dad. his son was not a drug addict. he took a pill that happened to be laced with fentanyl and it was a fatal overdose. the pain of losing a child is as bad as it gets, but the salt in the wound is that those in d.c. do not care about what is going on in the country. they do not care that we have opioid deaths. they are not taking the type of action that we need them to. stopping the invasion and even building a portable and having mexico pay for it. mexico is not going to hand over money. we are going to designate the cartels foreign terrorist organiz

administration they privatized workers compensation. i know so many workers who are disabled and the only thing they qualify for his social security disability benefits. it is very hard to take care of your family. west virginia is known as a coal state and that's how we take care of our families. i hate him he destroyed the livelihood of a lot of people here and we have scars and we don't forget that. he turned his back and instead these fossil fuel companies paying worker compensation. host: what do you think of your current governor jim justice? caller: jim justice, my wife and i voted for him when he was a democrat. we should have known better, i was told better by my democratic friends and that he's a billionaire and underneath he's a republican. and he brought trumpeted town and switch parties. i am not favorable to jim justice i would like to see someone from the democratic party to run. i don't know if we have enough time to find someone to run against him. he dropped severance taxes. host: let's go to george in kentucky, and independent. caller: yeah, how are you doing? i think joe manchin would be a good alternative because this co

in the bush administration there was an attempt by a compromising gang to pass copperheads of immigration reform. there have been attempts to pursue social securityment revitalization and reform. they have failed. i think that as we gear up for our season two of "breaking bread" featuring senator murkowski of alaska and senator kelly from arizona, i think there is a hunger during this 2024 campaign season that is already underway for there to be counter programming that is revitalizing for our democracy. the seeds of that are cultivated in the conversation with senator capito. her mindset and outlook, which is positive, it is can-do spirit. i think while she is referring to one piece of legislation that may not seem in trickle in the day-to-day lives -- in trigal in the lives of day-to-day americans, it can be done. host: welcome to the conversation with alexander heffner. caller: happy thanksgiving. my point is this. i think one of the most instructive things that ever happened in american history was during this pandemic. to have civil discourse you have to have free speech. neither side can stifle the speech of the other. you basically have to

in the bush administration there was an attempt by a compromising gang to pass copperheads of immigration reform. there have been attempts to pursue social securityment revitalization and reform. they have failed. i think that as we gear up for our season two of "breaking bread" featuring senator murkowski of alaska and senator kelly from arizona, i think there is a hunger during this 2024 campaign season that is already underway for there to be counter programming that is revitalizing for our democracy. the seeds of that are cultivated in the conversation with senator capito. her mindset and outlook, which is positive, it is can-do spirit. i think while she is referring to one piece of legislation that may not seem in trickle in the day-to-day lives -- in trigal in the lives of day-to-day americans, it can be done. host: welcome to the conversation with alexander heffner. caller: happy thanksgiving. my point is this. i think one of the most instructive things that ever happened in american history was during this pandemic. to have civil discourse you have to have free speech. neither side can stifle the speech of the other. you basically have to