system. >> sony's a corporation. you know it suffered significant damage. there were threats against some employees. i'm sympathetic to the concerns that they've faced. having said all that, yes, i think they made a mistake. i wish they had spoken to me first. i would have told them do not get into a pattern in which you're intimidated by these kinds of criminal attacks. >> i have to give the president credit first. he's never given a more direct answer to any question, but he displayed no perceptible sign of the irony of his response to sony's response. it was mr. obama's white house that then asked google to remove the mohammed video from google's youtube service. the president went on to promise a quote, proportional response to north korea. just minutes after the press conference reports surfaced that the president is considering retaliation. he's actually thinking about put putting north korea back on the list of state sponsors of terrorism. a designation that has not stopped the ieotola. when asked about the lo

government and rand corporation and sony. and all parties review the movie as not nearly entertainment, but having the potential of a regime change. >> bruce bennett has a major thesis, it has been that the way to make the north korean government collapse is to take out its leadership. in other words a plot line that is eerily similar to that in the interview. the emails are true that tells me that producers understood that the plot line was provocative. would be provocative to north korea. and the regime. >> one thing mentioned it the fact that michael linton c.e.o. of sony is on the board of trustees of rand corporation. so you see this intimate relationship between sony and the military industrial complex. coming back to the freedom of expression. it boils down to two different perspectives. despite the threat of violence theatres were packed with movie goers. >> it was described by directorsar silly. they said it was their duty. in north korea, the state forecaster called "the interview" an act of terrorism. >> for the ge

they went after sony pictures last year.? >> i think so. but they may very well combine it with other provocations that are from their toolkit which they frequently turn to. they sank a south korean ship in 2010. they had their third nuclear test in 2013. we are sort of due for another. people who look closely at north korea's nuclear testing facility have seen signs they are getting ready potentially for another. could also be deception. this is probably part of a phase of agitation that north korea goes through, usually then it moderates a little and tries to extract concessions from south korea or the u.s. >> what do you anticipate having next, gordon? >> well i think there is certainly going to be more cyberattacks on the united states, because there really has not been effective costs imposed on the north koreans or the chinese. the real issue is going to be what's happening inside the regime in north korea. there are signs of distress. we have seen things that are inconsistent with the dominant narrative that kim jong-

they were ready to go on a sony case.hey were absolutely ready to go, just waiting for the right instruction. and we never got to what the right instruction was, which i think is why we find ourselves where we are. you have to establish your defenses first. if we don't have some way for the government to at least assist the private sector in protecting their networks, it makes very little sense to try to create offensive trouble anywhere. they are not going to go after government works. they are going to go after private companies. that is a small case of what we see with sony. you start multiplying that with companies that are in the supply chain of critical infrastructure and you don't even have to go after critical infrastructure. you can go after the supply chain. now you have a whole other discussion. you can understand how layered this problem is and why we are not ready. i argue to dig in, put on the helmet, strap it on, and then we can have a conversation about how to move forward. >> do you think if the theaters

the north koreans have denied hacking sony but this report says u.s. intelligence agencies were able to track it back so quickly because of the monitoring they had done for at least a few years. tonight, kim jong-un knows how the u.s. government came to point the finger at him for the sony cyberattack. >> we can confirm that north korea engaged in this attack. >> reporter: how could the president be so confident just a few weeks after sony had been hacked? the "new york times" reports the national security agency america's super-secret eavesdroppers, had infiltrated north korea's shadowy cyberwarriors since 2010. >> it appears that what happened was nsa established footholds in various parts of north korea's computer infrastructure. they basically established footholds in the chinese region and they apparently established

thing is the north koreans themselves protested "the interview" as far back as last june and said if sony released it it could be an act of war. it's not clear that anybody in the intelligence community connected that with those phishing attacks and denial of service attacks brian just referred to. in fact in our reporting it showed that when they saw the north koreans do these they thought it was the ordinary things north koreans do to many. although the fact there was so much at sony you would have thought might have raised some alarm bells. apparently it didn't. sony executives saying they never received any particular warning. >> so from president obama on down the fbi director everybody else they are convinced 100% this was the work of north korea although some outside cyberwarfare experts

new sanctions on north korea in response to cyber attacks including the hack on sony. chip reid is traveling with president obama. the number of victims recovered from air asia flight 8501 rises dramatically. allen pizzey reports from indonesia. this pileup could be a hint of what's to come. a winter storm threatens a travel mess this weekend. jim axelrod remembers mario cuomo, gift orator, liberal beacon political patriarch. and steve hartman "on the road." with her streak on the line, the lady knights go for broke. >> i just felt like, wow like we are in this. >> and the crowd was getting into it, which made it even better. captioning sponsored by cbs this is th

when sony happened f. i had asked the question, well which of the 16 cry can infrastructures does this fall under? and it's a bit -- it's not clear. i know the president is announcing a i'mer plan this afternoon. i just got off the phone with the secretary. i think the vision is to make the department of homeland security the portal civilian interface to the private sector between the federal government and the private sector. sharing information from various data points, whether it be nsa, fbi, through the to the private sectoor, to incentivize participation in this civil yags interface, safe harbor within the department. i just wanted -- after this, i can't to talk about the foreign affairs aspects and the cyber-jihad threat to centcom that we just saw. how do you view of role of the dhs broadening with respect to the event that happened with sony? >> thank you very much, sir, for the question, and thank you for your leadership in helping us with the legislation that just passed and your continued suppor

sony. target staple, dairy queenpf chang. ups, i could go on and on. why can't he stop this from happening. >> companies you identified there is and incentive to gain economic benefit from stealing identities. you have listed that long litany of companies who have been affected and more importantly americans, millions of americans whose identity has been compromised. of course that's a separate issue from the more significant issue with sony, but to the average americans whose identities have been compromised, it's very real and it is part of the future wear facing. >> who is more care atlanticless the modern consumer who posts information on facebook that could lead to identity theft the government not caring about it or the companies? >> all of the above are partners in this. there is a reality we could be doing a lot more. we talk about cyber hygiene. 80% of the kind of things that are cluttering up and stolen on the internal could be impacted by better cyber hygiene. we have a lot of to

they were ready to go on a sony case. they were absolutely ready to go, just waiting for the right instruction. and we never got to what the right instruction was, which i think is why we find ourselves where we are. you have to establish your defenses first. if we don't have some way for the government to at least assist the private sector in protecting their networks, it makes very little sense to try to create offensive trouble anywhere. they are not going to go after government works. they are going to go after private companies. that is a small case of what we see with sony. you start multiplying that with companies that are in the supply chain of critical infrastructure and you don't even have to go after critical infrastructure. you can go after the supply chain. now you have a whole other discussion. you can understand how layered this problem is and why we are not ready. i argue to dig in, put on the helmet, strap it on, and then we can have a conversation about how to move forward. >> do you think if the theater

the boss of sony has made his first public comments since last month's computer hacking attack on sony pictures. the u.s. government blames north korea for the attack which was seen as a response to sony's comedy "the interview" a fictional plot to assassinate kim jong-un. he said he was proud of sony staff who stood up against what he described as the extortionist tactics of the hackers. here's a little teaser of what he had to say. >> sony pictures entertainment, former employees, and certainly current employees, they were unfortunately the victim of one of the most vicious and malicious cyber attacks that we've known certainly in recent history. >> there you go. just a little tease. more of the big boss of sony coming up on "gmt," as well as more on oil and the markets in just over an hour's time. follow me on twitter. tweet me. i'll tweet you back. you can get me @bbcaaron. i'll see you soon. back to you. >> we will see you soon. thank you very much. as always, don't go away for now. we've still got lots more to come on this program. the role of trained medical staff in fighting th

in the sony case in september, the hackers had attacked sony with a spearfishing attacks, one of the e-mails that you get that you click on by mistake and puts malicious software on your computer. the way intelligence officials put it to me, there are a lot of spear fishing attacks that go a lot of places in and out of north korea. the connection they didn't make was that north korea had of course issued some threats that releasing this movie "the interview", the comedy about a cia plot to assassinate kim jong-un would be an act of war. it wasn't until the destructive attack on sony began on november 24th that people began to say, oh, i think we've probably got the data on this. >> so then they go back in and pumt the pieces together and that is why the president was so cat gorical, this is north korea and the fbi director as well. >> andrea we have covered the white house for a long time. this is a very cautious president who doesn't come out and make intelligence pronouncements. in the case of cyber attacks, atrib bugs usually takes months if not longer and then usually uncertain.

hacked north korea's computer networks long before the sony scandal. macintyre is in washington with more. jamie. >> reporter: well john u.s. intelligence and law enforce officials have been insist important that the evidence against north korea is unassailable and now it turns out that one reason for that high confidence that north korea hacked sony may be because the united states hacked north korea first. >> hello, everybody. we really have a full house today, huh? >> reporter: president obama has been unequivocal in blaming north korea for the hack of sony pickers last year. >> the fbi announced and we can confirm that north korea engaged in this attack. >> reporter: but some experts remained skeptical, was north korea really capable? a newly revealed document provides a tantalizing clue. the document was posted online by the german magazine. it says we got the zero day out of passive and were able to repurpose it big win. that's computer jargon describing a zero-day program. what the document suggests is that the u.s. was deep inside north korea's

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fun and games for sony is just about to begin. i think it is going to have a tremendously bad economic impact on that company. >> the next time there is a cyber attack on a u.s. company that destroys data, do you think the u.s. should come out and name the country that is behind it and post some sort of sanctions? >> i sure hope so. otherwise, you invite further attacks. that is why this is such an important step that the president and the administration have taken. >> first, in the bluiee sweater. >> we speak about the capability of a big corporation to deal with that issue, but what about federal government and state governments, because the last government report by government showed that up to 9000 federal government facilities were vulnerable for cyber attacks dhs. do you think that it is now the federal government and the state level federal government had good strategies for dealing with that issue? and a second question -- we are speaking about russia, iran, north korea -- but do you think north korea -- but do you think a

there was a policemans sonyed topolicemansassigned to protect the editor. they went up on a lift code and then shot. >> charlie hebdo has been focus of controversy and threats before right? >> yes. apparently the newspaper or the publication inspire of the al qaeda in the arab peninsula fingered charlie hebdo again apparently because -- i'm not sure of this -- because charlie hebdo was beginning to do another series of cartoons about the prophet. >> because we have seen suicide attacks before and because this attack seems unusual, do you expect this is a wave of -- we can expect xp a wave of new attacks like this? >> i think we can expect this for years not only in europe but in the united states. until the he wave of jihaddism breaks and goes away. it is going to take a long time and be a huge problem for the west. >> we hope you're wrong but charles it's great to have you on the program thanks very much. >> you're very welcome. >> charlie hebdo was founded in the 1980s businessmen religious figures all of them have been sceured skewered in their paper. >>

turns out that sony hack job could have been an inside job.endent investigators saying fired employee was behind it. the government says otherwise. health records of celebrities, name it, they exposed it. dagen, the moral look out for who you hire and fire? >> can't screen for crazy when you hire somebody that would have never made it. >> you're the one who hired me. >> there must be something to it. they're looking back at where did we go wrong? >> because you can't screen for that, because people put on their best face and you have to be careful about what you ask about. a former employer is when you hire somebody, but you doggone well should protect yourself if somebody gets fired or even if someone leaves. this is sony with its pants down. >> yeah. >> why i hesitatesed to -- everybody's like, oh a national security crisis. you know what? sony screwed up with the playstation hack a few years ago and didn't do a doggone thing to fix their security and screwed up again. >> unhappy i.t. people, automatically they're -- copying stuff on to a di

sony says the film has already made $31 million via streaming as well as 5 million in theaters. sony initially yanked the film following threats from hackers both online and in a limited number of theaters and the director of the fbi said he's confident that north korea was behind the cyber attack on sony. he said the threats made were traced to ip addresses used exclusively by the north koreans and there's evidence that they sought to use proxy servers to conseal the sony attack. he also predicted that north korea would try to strike again. >>> team clothing company wet seal says today it's shutting down about two third of the stores due to its dire financial condition. the retailer says 3700 full or part-time employees will lose their jobs. 338 stores in all will close effective today and that will leave 173 stores still up and running along with its online business. analysts say chains like wet seal have been hit by a decline in wall visits in recent years. >>> a legal battle over beats by dr. dre is underway. the audio cable company monster has filed suit in san mateo court.

when sony happened f.i had asked the question, well, which of the 16 cry can infrastructures does this fall under? and it's a bit -- it's not clear. i know the president is announcing a i'mer plan this afternoon. i just got off the phone with the secretary. i think the vision is to make the department of homeland security the portal civilian interface to the private sector between the federal government and the private sector. sharing information from various data points whether it be nsa fbi, through the to the private sectoor, to incentivize participation in this civil yags interface, safe harbor within the department. i just wanted -- after this, i can't to talk about the foreign affairs aspects and the cyber-jihad threat to centcom that we just saw. how do you view of role of the dhs broadening with respect to the event that happened with sony? >> thank you very much, sir, for the question, and thank you for your leadership in helping us with the legislation that just passed and your continued support

the obama administration finally retaliating against north korea for hack attack against sony pictures possibly the costliest cyberattack ever on an american company. the white house slapping new economic sanctions on pyongyang's arms industry and intelligence operations. reaction from general jack keane whether sanctions are the right move. >>> protesters taking to the streets from the east to west coast marching against brutal police tactics and a lack of accountability. the demonstrations come as the new york police department proves excelling at keeping america's largest cities safe with the new york murder rate falling to a record low. >>> prominent black conservative niger innis is here to explain why he thinks cops are black america's best ally. >>> and the president making the most of his vacation with lots of golfing, shaved ice and snorkeling, that's going to come to an abrupt end. all about the battles that lie ahead between president obama and the new republican congress. >>> but we begin with the president's move to penalize north korea for the sony hack attack. the white

i was was deeply disturbed by the cyber attack on sony that took place. agents agents working for the north korean regime than the lies and coworkers to company in the united states. as i said then, no one should feel that they must see their rights to operate within the law because of veiled threats from rogue actors. are you putting safeguards in place to ensure these kinds of attacks will not be successful in the future? i i look forward to hearing about your progress. there is no international agreement or your definition of cyber war or cyber terror yet it is clear that they can cause distraction of property, intimidate the public will bring about the loss of life they could be as serious as conventional acts of war terrorism. we must assure north korean cyber capabilities and those of other state-sponsored and rogue actors do not threaten our citizens, businesses, or national security. i would like to here the witnesses assessments of these risks and the ability of allies and partners to effectively defend against them. finally, let's remember the g

government warn sony that it could be attacked? north korea had warned as early as last june that it considered sony's movie "the interview" an

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they believe they launched the hack on sony.om/the channel finder to find adam. >>> inches from disaster drivers stopped in their tracks as several trees smacked down on the highway. >> the "x-files" listen up. you might be in for a nice surprise this morning. >> first let's check in with steve doocy to see what's coming up on "fox & friends." >> coming up on "fox & friends" 12 minutes from now ahead of the united states state of the union address. big plan raise taxes. not just on the rich. done namd trump nald trump will join us live. shots fired near joe biden's house in delaware. we will have information live from outside of his house. hire sony to hack into somebody else's account? is that for real? is it legal? actually could help you? the cyber guy will explain when we come back a dozen minutes from right now on your channel for news. you get sick you can't breathe through your nose suddenly, you're a mouth breather. a mouth breather! well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. cold medicines open your nose ov

beyond our response to the sony cyber attack safeguarding u.s. financial system and its critical infrastructure from the threat posed by state-sponsored militias subjectivity is part of treasury's mission. treasury partners with the financial sector to show specific threat information and improve based on security and enhance industry response and recovery. i go into much of this in my written testimony and in greater detail. as the united states confronts the destabilizing and destructive actions of the dprk treasury is employing authority to isolate north korea from international financial system. treasury will continue to use its arsenal of financial measures to combat the cyberthreat by the dprk. thank you, mr. chairman, for invitation to testify before the committee today, and i look forward to answering a question. >> general's. >> spectacular much mr. chairman, and ranking member engel and establishment of the committee, thank you very much for having me today. i appreciate the opportunity to appear before you today alongside my colleagues

the fun and games for sony is just about to begin. i think it's going to have a bad economic impact. >> the next time there's a cyber attack on a u.s. company that destroys data and a significant business disruption, you think we'll hit the u.s. or the u.s. should come out and name the country it leaves behind it and pose some sanction? >> i sure hope so. otherwise you invite further attacks. that's why this is such an important step that the president and the administration have taken. >> we speak about capability of big corporation to deal with that issue. what about federal government and state government. showed that up to 9,000 federal government facilities vulnerable for cyber threats because of lack of strategy. do you think that now the federal government and probably even state level government have the good strategy to deal with that kind of issue. it can use this cyber weapon against the united states like north korea did. >> i'll start on the second one. maybe you can answer the government side of it, which i don't think i

now he says the sony hack was the big one. demonstrated for us exactly how he says it was done. we recorded this during the commercial break in our last hour. take a look at in this. >> first thing i'm going to do is i'm going to call into your voicemail system hack into your voicemail, and your voicemail system is going to call you. you may think that's weird but in a few minutes, the phone will ring, and it says that voicemail is calling you. whether or not you answer that phone is insignificant. stuart: it's ringing right now, john. it's -- my voicemail is calling me. now what? >> that is correct. now, you can answer it or not, it makes no difference. right now i'm into your voicemail system. i'm now into your contacts list. what i'm looking for, varney, is something that says fox headquarters, chairman of fox news or something so that i can then call you, which i'm going to do now on my second phone hang up the phone because i'm calling you from fox headquarters. stuart: okay. hang up that phone, all right. okay. >> so you

sony's already been hurt badly.tion if we publish the stuff that's been released. the entertainment stuff is more for the entertainment industry, "people" has been talking about the things that have been said about the actors. but some of the racially tinged comments that were made by the executives, that's crossed over into straight news and we reported it and i'll tell you, as soon as i reported it, i thought, i don't know if i did the right thing, because i don't know if we should be dining on the carcass of someone's dead privacy rights. i had the same feeling when donald sterling, that gem, got outed by his lover, i'm still not sure. >> jimmy: adviser. >> i don't know. >> jimmy: she was his -- [ laughter ] part of his team. >> that felt a little weird and uncomfortable, you know, somebody -- >> jimmy: it did. but a lot of fun. you have to say -- >> yes, that's the tug of war. >> jimmy: i know, that's the thing. when you see celebrities involved and famous people involved, you forget that these are privacy issue

hacked north korea before the sony pictures attack. we begin with a look at the president's state of the union address. mr. obama is expected to call tomorrow for a like in taxes for wealthy. he's also expected to propose tripling the childcare tax credit and lowering college tuition all by the economy. tom harken has more. >> the silver lining with the gdp poomg the fastest growth since 1999. the gas prices dropping to $2 a gallon as an average across the country. an extraordinary economic story but what is that black cloud? job and income growth. incomes have stagnated. have not seen the benefits of a growing economy many workers 60 to 70% of workers so you're going to see the president really hitting on that. proposing new ideas and you are going to see republicans seizing on that over the course of the next couple of weeks. we've seen the president over the past few weeks touring the country talking about his ideas to share the wealth of the country, free community college for two years one proposal expanding broadband access anoth

sony was struggling with bigger financial problems.was already facing weak sales of their smartphones. the company expects to lose $2 billion in this financial year. the bright spot is the excess of the video games and their newest playstation console. >> playstation 4 sold more than 4.1 million units during this holiday season. the total sellthrough has reached more than 18.5 million units since its launch. >> sony is hoping to build on the success at the consumer electronics show in las vegas. they are in valley a digital -- they are unveiling an upgrade of its walkman. >> htc sales were boosted by its new midrange phone and a tablet. they have been suffering from shrinking market share in the wake of increased competition. morgan stanley has fired a financial advisor. the american investment bank says the former employee downloaded about 10% of their client database. there is no evidence any clients lost any money. jpmorgan settling civil lawsuits. they have to pay around $100 million to settle a claim. they have agreed to pay over

including at least one ex-sony employee.ey code named her lena saying she spent ten years at sony and was laid off last spring. >> somebody had to know what would embarrass hollywood or sony. and nation states whether north korea or any nation state wouldn't know something like that. >> the fbi, though they're still pointing towards north korea saying there's no credible evidence to indicate that any other group is responsible. north korea has denied any involvement in the attack. >>> well a holiday tradition goes by the wayside when hospitals put safety first when it come to the birth of the new year as first babies. many hospitals are not releasing or limiting information about new year's baby births this year. they're citing the potential for abductions and identity theft based on guidance from the national missing and exploited children. >>> four three, two, one -- happy new year! >> there it goes. >> i was hoping we'd get to see this drop. 4 1/2 foot tall 85-pound yellow peep chick dropped at midnight. i don't know if i

sony's ceo spoke for the first time about the notorious cyber hacks against sony. this. >> former employees and certainly current employees, they were unfortunately the victims of one of the most vicious and malicious cyber attacks that we have known in recent history. i have to say that i'm very proud of all the employees and certainly the partners that we have worked with as well, who stood up against some of the extortionist efforts of the criminals that actually attacked sony pictures and its employees. >> initially, sony did not stand up defending the movie "the interview," but the movie eventually decided to let the movie out andhirai praised the efforts of those ringing the movie to theaters. >> were to tirelessly, literally 24 hours a day, and sometimes days on end to bring "the interview" to audiences in the united states and canada as well across online venues, as well as in most in -- in motion pictures across the state. >> a stoner film and politics. that really happened. a skateboard turning heads at the consumer electronics show. that is brad stone on

this is around the same time of the sony hack.e him having any conversations with his north korean counterparts on intelligence matters? >> reporter: well what they are saying is that if he of course made that trip to north korea to try to secure the release of three americans being detained there, and he did succeed in that they say he did not raise any other issues that that was his sole focus and he didn't want any intelligence issues of this sort apparently to get in the way of trying to get those americans home. >> barbara starr at the pentagon thank you. >>> when we come back investigators finally closer to figuring out just what caused airasia flight 8501 to crash into the ocean. they have now listened to the cockpit voice recorders. what did they hear? >>> plus the new england patriots investigated for possibly allegedly cheating in their huge playoff win yesterday. but the punishment does not involve giving up their super bowl spot. sheila! you see this ball control? you see this right? it's 80% confidence and 64% knee br

among some cyber security experts that north korea was even involved in the attack on sony.ported on cnn and others have reported as well some feel that the hack was an inside job and pyongyang pounced on that saying that the u.s. is launching these sanctions as a way to try and validate a shaky case against the north korean government but the white house as you know is standing firm here launching these sanctions saying they have very credible evidence that north korea was involved in the devastating hack on sony pictures and that's why you see the u.s. targeting several different north korean governmental entities and ten different individuals, officials working on behalf of the north korean government outside of the country in places like iran russia africa and syria. now most of these individuals, in fact seven of them were working in the weapons export business. this is one of the ways that the north korean regime makes its money, by selling weapons to other countries, and by naming these individuals publicly for the first time it makes it a lot more difficult for them

coming but next we will find out w >> sony struggling to reco lou: sony struggling to recover from a cyberattack in which several of its unreleased films, personal information of thousands of employees including their pay, and conventional documents were accessed. for more on the latest cyberattack i'm joined by the ceo of the mccallum group and cybersecurity firm main narrative. good to have you with us. president obama talking at the business roundtable casually mentioned cybersecurity as a shared concern with big business. i did not see a representative from sony but when they are losing entire movies and that kind of attack is taking place we are in real trouble, are we not? >> yes, sir. sony has been hacked at least twice before in the last three years so they need to take a this, large retailers and small and midsize businesses need to take this very seriously. look at the lessons being learned and implement the processes that are necessary to ensure they have the right cybersecurity procedures in place. charles: lou: your analysts have looked at sony, the way it appears that i

in sony's make good -- is sony's make good enough? i was surprised when i went online and people were not whining about this more. this attack comes at an important time for sony. >> it is an important time and it's a good solid gesture. i am surprised there is not more whining as well. i talked to some of my senior guys who are core gamers and in that key demo for the gamers. they don't think it's quite enough. it seemed to me like a very good offer and the gesture, assuming no more problems going down the road. i don't think will we be talking about this a month or two from now. >> i remember trying to set up my xbox one and it was a pain in the but soy never got online. how important is christmas for these two networks that are the future of gaming? >> christmas is always important. because you are getting the new box and new software and time on your hands but the year has elongated. january is a big month. we have continuous rollouts of releases now. this is not a fatal problem. xbox went through the double xx's and there will al

in retaliation for the upcoming movie "the interview," while apparently leaving sony completely alone for after earth. that makes no sense. for god's sake you have the most charismatic star in the world in will smith. he's stuck in a bubble can't go anywhere. meanwhile, ( bleep ) is flying around in a magic squirrel suit. the whole thing. and the bad guys can only see you if they smell fear. guess what? it's a visual medium. what are we talking about? apparently, the threatened exposure of more e-mails didn't slow sony down in their vilnius plot to release a comedy. so the hackers went to plan "b." >> the theaters that show sony's new comedy can the view will face 9/11-style attacks. >> jon: first of all, when did 9/11 become a style of attack? ( laughter ) "we heard you were interested in attacking something. we've assembled a pintrest page. tell me what style of attack you'd like. maybe a 9/11 maybe a dresden." the point is you are ( bleep ) now, buddy. you stepped in it. 9/11 is our magic strength. it's our spinach. it reminds us, we don't give in, we never give up, we don't back d