for more, it is my great pleasure to welcome back to "viewpoint," former new york governor, eliot spitzer. hello, sir. >> thank you for inviting me. >> john: it is a little to have you back. welcome back to your old house. >> it is yours now. >> john: i have the ratings to prove it. confidence is up. unemployment is down. deficits are down. while our republican friends are focused on scandal, has the economy suddenly gone from a minus to a plus for this president? >> i don't want to overstate the case. i think has gone from a single-minded mania where we were waking up saying where is the bad news, where is the next shoe to drop, where is the next horror story we'll confront. suddenly, there is a sense we've turned the corner bit by bit. the stimulus should have been bigger but it did its bit beginning to jump start the economy. the housing market is coming back. the equity market is clearly back. so john boehner can't get up every day and say where are the jobs? and so the new meme is scandalmongering even when there's no scandal. when it comes to the economy i think the white house is s

former governor eliot spitzer joining us as he does every wednesday morning.l king will be here from the "wall street journal" as a "friend of bill" and fred krupp is the president of the environmental defense fund. very happy with president obama's big speech yesterday on climate change. he'll be joining us in studio to tell us all about it. but first... >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> on this wednesday other headlines making news, a day after making a crack at president obama during a concert in washington, rolling stones singer mick jagger spoke out on twitter in support of the president's climate change speech yesterday saying hearing his speech was very refreshing and he likes the new ideas. monday night, at the stones show here in the city, political reports that jagger said "i don't think president obama is here tonight but i'm sure he's listening in." >> bill: yeah, i know. just a funny joke. >> sure. harmless. >> people who act like people are a big deal -- >> we're learning more about the firing of george zimmer, the founder of men's

i will say the difference between snyder and spitzer is this. wall street hated spitzer.enberg about accounting improprieties the all the charges but two have been thrown out. the question about schneiderman, and this is what people are asking this, guy, where is the beef on loft these cases? he brought this case against jpmorgan. guess what? jpmorgan, it was for since that were done when, in the bear stearns subsidiary that jpmorgan was forced, essentially to buy during the financial crisis. there is case against greenberg which i can tell you it is bipartisan. mario cuomo, rudy giuliani, governor pataki, people saying this case is waste of taxpayer money. we should point out we have statements from schneiderman and greenberg and this is where it is interesting. they are like going at it. if we had sound effect it is would be like to get cats screeching. do we have statements from schneiderman and greenberg? they are interesting. they go at each other. here with go. attorney general schneiderman is new york state law to hold people accountable for their actions. take as

he is like elliott spitzer on steroids.ying to get some sort of congressional allegation against schneiderman. listen, investigate the investigator. the problem with this guy, he is completely political. he does not go after john corzine. that is essentially what is happening right now. i think it is 5050. i think he will send some sort of informational e-mail or letter to corzine at some point. his spokesman said nothing is in the works right now. this is kind of interesting. if you ask anybody, wall street hated elliott spitzer. dagen: he was a jerk. >> you try to get me fired like four times. what they feel is, well, at least spitzer went after everybody evenly. this was republicans and democrats. it really did not matter. schneiderman is a political hack who is basically basing his investigations on how much political juice he can get a basically investigations that favor the democrats opposed to republicans. i think it is a very good point. why is the new york attorney general office going after jpmorgan for things tha

here is a man who has practiced it and done it well former governor eliot spitzer of new york. we are happy to have him join us every wednesday morning. eliot, good morning. >> i love calling in here when you do that introduction. it just makes my week. thank you for those unnecessary and unearned words but what the heck. >> bill: what the hell? just enjoy it. right? i have great affection and respect for you. good to have you as part of the program. i have to ask you, so you have been in the governor's chair. try to put yourself in chris kristi's news wheres there is the sad occasion of frank lauten berg and it's up to you to call a special election. he called a special election three weeks before the one that's already scanluxedheduled. >> this is the most crazy outrageous political crassness i have seen. this is a guy who has gotten more unearned affirmative adulation because after sandy, he embraced the president. that was a wonderful moment but he has been wrong on so many fundamental issues and this is just an example of the crazen way he plays economics. three weeks -- p

he will eliot spitzer joins us a little bit later in this hour. talking about the nsa saying basically, shut up. stop complaining. we are going to continue to monitor your telephone calls, and you ought to be grateful because 50 times, we have been able to stop terrorist plots since september 11th because t collision of all of that data which, by the way raises one other question. i have made this so many times you are probably tired of hearing me make this argument but i am going to make it one more time. here is what really bugs me if this program is so vitals to our national security so important keeping us safe the only thing between us and another september 11th, why weren't we developed about it? why did it have to be a big secret? don't say it's because the terrorists will know what we are doing. the terrorists no what we are doing. ask osama bin laden. usef -- dan, you had something? >> tweet to us at bp show. cot question be believed the nsa. receipt a says why shouldn't we? didn't you believe blindly everything eric snowden said. 501 say

your films include taxies of the darkside, client nine, the rise and fall of eliot spitzer, meah maximaculpa, silence in the eye of god, and enron its smartest guys in the room. your new film called we steal secrets the story of wiki laeks in theatres now, on demand june 7th. we steal secrets, about wikileaks, are you in this discussion tonight going to spill any state secrets that could get a bag popped over my head and get me dragged off to guantanamo. >> no, i don't think so. >> stephen: you don't think so. >> i don't think so but you know, we steal secrets is actually a phrase said by former cia director michael hayden. he looked at me and said alex, we steal secrets, that's what we do. >> stephen: the cia does. >> correct. >> stephen: they're licence food do so. >> seemingly so. >> stephen: are you making equivalency between the cia, the official intelligence agency of the united states, and some clown like julian a sang and badly manning, a known criminal who stole these state secrets and leaked them to the world and possibly to our enemies and endangered american lives. >> bradle

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eliot spitzer tried to get me fired. >> can i finish? i'm going to talk right now! >> i grew up -- >> i'm going to talk. i'm not talking about tough, but i grew up near pig manure farm, and i can smell it in the room. if somebody tries to muzzle me, i'm not going to go into a meeting and let them mudz elle me. >> i will sit down and listen to them. that's called being a reporter. >> i'm just saying if they're trying to muzzle you, you don't go into a meeting that muzzles you, period. >> they're into the going to muzzle me. >> can i ask a question? >> what? who would you bet on in a fight between the two of us? >> it would be ugly. do you think that you don't really have to get to the nuances of offthe record sort of case studies and law to know this is not just off the record, this is just off the wall. it's just crazy behavior. >> i think it's beyond a media sort of story. i think we're boxing -- it's much greater than this. i think it's a narrative of an administration that has contempt for congress, media. remember they called up the auto executives, wall street

>> we sit in a city where eliot spitzer got a television show, and anthony weiner is leading the polls right now, and 70 miles up the road from where michael vick is lionized by people who pray he doesn't make a fumble. she can make a comeback. >> i interviewed a few times, and she wrote a blush for my book, and she is somebody i have never heard her use this language. she is a sauce character, though, and she says what she means and doesn't have a filter. >>> mortgage rates just saw their biggest weekly jump in a quarter century. if you have been on the fence about buying or refinancing, it's time to get off the fence. what rising rates mean for your wallet and the economy is next. [ female announcer ] stress sweat smells the worst. and secret clinical strength gives you four times the protection against it. secret clinical strength. to your kids' wet skin. neutrogena® wet skin kids. ordinary sunblock drips and whitens. neutrogena® wet skin cuts through water. forms a broad spectrum barrier for full strength sun protection. wet skin. neutrogena®. for full strength sun protection. at o

. >> prosecutors have noticed, other prosecutors like eliot spitzer, richard blumenthal, want impressive conviction records. >> all these regulations, they will comb the books and find something. >> this could happen to you. they can take any law they think you broke and take you to trial. whether you win or lose you are going to lose because by the time you are done fighting you are broke. >> the government never goes broke. >> they must spent million dollars. >> i heard they spent five million. >> how much money does it take? >> i've had clients that spent $10 million. >> i cannot even imagine how much money they spent prosecuting my husband. >> the feds tried jill's husband jack and lost. but instead apologizing for getting it wrong, they threaten to fine him $37,000 a day. a terrible crime did they commit. trying to build a house on their own property. >> the county gave you permission to build. >> and they inspected the foundation and approved it. >> so you started to build. >> but a government owned drainage ditch was clogged. they asked the government to the fix. >> it they say we

but there are a lot of fanatic autos prulters noted that othersecutors like eliot spitzer and senator blumenthal racked up expensive conviction records. >> there are regulations they will comb the books and find someone. >> this could happen to you. and whether you win or lose you're going to lose. >> the government never goes broke. >> they must have spent a million taxpayer dollars on it. >> i cannot imagine how much money they spent prosecuting my husband. >> feds tried her husband, jack, and lost but instead after poll jizing for getting it wrong they threatened to finance $37,000 in debt. what terrible crime did they say jack and jill committed? trying to build a house on their own property. >> county gave you permission to build snoo yes, they did. >> but a government-owned was nearby. >> they told my husband we're backed up you can clean the ditch go ahead, do it. >> he used a back hoe removing huge logs out of this ditch. the water poured off of the land and we were cited with a felony for cleaning the ditch. it give the property an appearance of being a wetland. state governm

how do you think the spitzer got busted with they were looking at his bank accounts. >> tucker, there's a difference in what they are doing to us and snowden disclosing what we are doing in china. >> i think we should be smpying on the rest of the world, but not me. i'm not a suspect. >> what are the people talking about? they are talking about the angle of america as bullies. what america is doing wrong.>> d some hate the u.s. and he does. doesn't mean that john boehner ought to defend a program where you are being spied on. >> i agree. >> if you are the party of freedom, why are you defending this? >> i do not have the information that apparently you do. what i'm working from is two separate programs. they are phone records that you do not know who they are and you do not read the content. i am okay with that, that is like a road map for a police officer to find a crime that committed. they need a map. that is what the phone records are and then you have prism, they have said that they collected all kinds of information inadvertently, but -- to morning show, fox and friends. i worked

spitzer and snyderman do not try cases. this, if you fight with us, it will go on for four or five years. your company will go under and by the time you win, you will have nothing left. i am trying to find the right word to use. [ laughter ] beat them could to me, it was a joke. they are suing because he got money for doing a good job. >> he was not even that guy that approved it. they left some of the democrats out. plus, i have never heard of a case where somebody had sued for allegedly getting too much money for doing a superb job. i think he is bringing cases that he is willing to bring to trial. charlie: his main target is a guy named steve cohen. what do you think will happen? >> i do not know. obviously, they are looking at him very carefully. a big company. that is what the investigation is about. charlie: what do you think? >> i think that he is probably pretty well insulated. that does not mean somebody will not crack along the way. we went from a few people that gave -- that all took about three years. they have

one of the great things about this job once i took over for governor spitzer, the time i got to spendeat journalists who ask the right questions. hanging out with men like you has been a fun part of my job trying to get the truth out to the american which brings me to speak about the death of michael heyings. he has been on the show many times. david, he was your friend. what did you most admire about him. >> michael hastings was a guy who was willing to make people uncomfortable, willing to make people in power uncomfortable and getting information to his readers was more important than coddling up to government resources or military resources. michael wasn't just somebody who would be willing to go up against politicians and go up against staff or go up against people in washington, d.c. he took the courage that i think takes even greater courage to actually question the military and military policy in a country where militarism is basically the national religion. he was one of the rare reporters willing to--if information was embarrassing about the military, he was willing to publi

. >> how do you think eliot spitzer was ensnared? there are people that polled, yes, we listened phone calls, didn't have a warrant, it is ripe for abuse. >> that was the question you asked me earlier. something is ripe for abuse, you try to create a way to prevent the abuse from happening, but you don't dismantle something that could possibly save lives. we have to separate the two programs out. phone records, we know that exists, reported by usa today, then p.r.i.s.m. spying on foreigners, not a problem with the fourth amendment. like i say, it is the fourth amendment, not the fourth yemendment. they do it to us. that's why i believe he is a traitor. he could go after the chinese, not us, show us how bad it is. the bigger existential threat is radical islam. our disarray among the right and left is giving them the biggest chuckle. and it gives them a first class ticket to the apocalypse as we sit there and consider dismantling something that could save our lives. i understand the trust, but we have to do something to solve this. >>

governor eliot spitzer and 300 years ago on this day bridget bishop was hanged near salem, massachusettstestable arts called witchcraft and sourcerries. so at least george zimmerman can be sure he'll get a fairer trial than she did. this is "viewpoint." >> john: good evening i'm john fugelsang, and this is "viewpoint." thank you for joining us tonight. a former nsa contractor gave us an idea who it's been targeting lately. >> the nsa targets the communication of everyone. it ingests them by default. any analyze at any time can target anyone, any selector anywhere. i sitting at my desk certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge or even to the president if i had a personal e-mail. >> john: in the past tweak 29-year-old edward snowden had exposed two top nsa programs, which he discussed on "the guardian" website. the government checks e-mails and collection logs and the ns axe gotsgot direct access from microsoft, yahoo, google facebook paltalk, skype youtube and apple. now so far facebook google, yahoo have actually denied at allowing the

other prosecutors notice eliot spitzer one high office by racking up impressive conviction records. >> all of these regulations they will comb the books and find something. >> this can happen to you. they can take any law they think you broke and take you to trial. whether you win or lose you lose. by the time you are done fighting it you are broke. >> i heard they spent 5 million. >> the amount of money it takes. >> how much money does it take? >> i have had clients spend $10 million. >> i cannot image how much money they spend prosecuting my husband. >> they tried her husband jack and lost but instead of apologizing for getting it wrong they threatened to finances 37,000 dollars a day. what terrible crime did the government say they committed? trying to build a house on their property. >> the county gave you permission to build? >> they inspected the foundation and approved it. >> you started to build? >> uh-huh. >> a government owned drainage ditch was clogged with logs. they told my husband we are backed up 6 months if you can clean the ditch go ahead and do it. so he used his bac

>> you know, just so you know, i have been laying off of the male since 2002 when eliot spitzer foundll the trove of e-mails about how he was privately -- you know, pieces of you know what. so i don't use e-mail lot except for like one word answers. i will say this, there will be a chilling effect on the business model. if you believe them, you are saying that there not asking for all that much information. they want to show everybody that don't worry about 4 porn usage, you can still download porn. neil: you mentioned goin googlei just get a sense of google. they are more interested in showing their backbone with the chinese, for example, you can't get this information. washington asks for the same thing, whatever you want. that is weird, perverse high-tech double standard i am seeing, it kind of bothers me. >> well, i think that all of the tech companies want to show a backbone efficient their customer. neil: but affer the fact. i can threaten to beat you up after you left the room. >> and you make a good point. that this has been going on for a while. the only reason that we're all

>> her reputation has been damaged but we sit in a city eli eliot spitzer got a television show, where the mayoral candidate, anthony weiner, is leading the polls right now and 70 miles up the road where michael vick is lyonized by 60,000 people every sunday who pray the only thing that doesn't happen is he doesn't fumble. she can make a comeback. >> i interviewed her several times. she wrote a blurb for my book and she's someone who i've never heard her use this language and people who work with her daily never heard her use this language. she is a saucy character and says what she means and doesn't have a filter, i will say that. we'll see what the next chapter holds for paula deen. >>> mortgage rates just saw the biggest jump in a quarter century. if you've been on the fence about financing, time to get off the fence. what rising rates mean for your wallet and the economy. >>> the u.s. housing market is healing. home sales are up and so are home sales and the pace of home construction. so are mortgage rates. the biggest rise in mortgage rates in one week since april of 1987. last we

interview ever and it's right here on "viewpoint" because i told him i was just filling in for eliot spitzers one night. >>> if you're discouraged over how hard it is to get any gun safety laws passed in america these days, consider this. colin goddard was shot during the virginia tech massacre. he's still got three bullet fragments in his body, still fighting and he joins us toni

. >> when eliot spitzer does something wrong, they say he shouldn't have done it, hawaii, but why doy have his bank accounts for no reason. don't worry about it, he shouldn't have done it. but when it happened to mcchrystal, poor mcchrystal when all he was trying to do is conduct a horrible war in afghanistan. forgive his transgressions that michael reported on whatsoever. they didn't talk about what was actually happening. and by the way mcchrystal was also in iraq and involved in a lot of shady things happening in iraq, and telling us success was around the corner. it was not around the corner, and hastings was one of few guys to point that out. and oh, the government, the pentagon the pentagon,, oh my god, the fighting general! what fighting general, what are you talking about? they're here trying to demean michael hastings after he passed away to protect their beloved power establishment. congratulations, geraldo. >> isn't the press that lawful method to whistle blow? isn't the way that everyone is is at very kateisadvocateing, use the reporter as channels, but no, you want do th

have they targeted opponents of the government and the banks yes, spitzer assange and almost every onethose is a sex charge, almost every one of those. what really helps who did you call? did you call your mistress? did you call your hooker. doesn't matter the content of the call. if i have your mistress's number, your girlfriend, exgirlfriend, i can smear it with you. maybe it's your friend and i'm going to call you gay. doesn't matter, i can use it to smear you. one last carey thing here. ray kelly is the commissioner of the nypd. he said i think the american public can accept the fact that you tell them every time you pick up the phone it's going to be recorded and goes to the government. i think the public cannoned that. i see no reason why that program was placed in the secret category. he's criticizing obama it shouldn't be secret, but he's going further saying yeah, we should record all your calls. he seems to be indicating he is already recording your calls. if you live in new york, don't say anything badden oh the phone, because ray kelly it appears is listening. >> he has a p

ten years since elliot spitzer shook up wall street with a variety of investigations among research and things. you at times have been compared to him and having a more assertive style as a regulator, being able to break from the back, if need be. can you talk about your approach to cases and what you think needs changes, if anything, in terms of the financial regulatory landscape. >> look, i think we approach our cases one at a time. each one we take seriously. i don't feel more assertive than anyone else. i have enough trouble to get my kids to listen to me at home, but we work hard and we try to observe other stefls in the most serious cases and when you deal with iran and potential sanctions, i think we're a little more nord. when i was a attorney in man atan, we worked with bankers, when you find out they are doing business with terrorist nations it makes your blood boil. >> in addition to freezing the finances that can help encourage terrorist operations, what are other areas of focus that you would like to see within financial oversight? what rocks should we be overturning when i

let's not forget how they took down governor spitzer. they used the patriot act to spy on him.h you when they want to. >> exactly. they are always screaming about the second amendment, it's the fourth amendment we need to worry about. >> but the fourth amendment can't compensate for a small penis. i'm sorry. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: you made the point that there is so much screaming about non-scandals that we are missing what might be more important. because they are still all over this irs thing, dye not need to see one more irs employee line dancing. >> but you will, because playing victim is the proud conservative's favorite activity. >> the guy who played spock in the video. >> stephanie: the deputy irs commissioner. >> it's imbare -- imbare asking and i apologize. i did not know what the expense was at the time of the conference that we were paying. >> stephanie: all right. >> but then he kind of reverses that after some questioning by representative of utah. >> you signed off on a routing slip. you participated in meetings understanding the cost before the conference ha

eliot spitzer, tiger woods. different scenarios. granted. thing to sleep with someone outside your marriage, it's another thing to talk. it's a very different story. america has a very short attention span. we do love a revitalization story. let her go away for a few years. do some volunteer work at a poverty center and then let her come back. mark my words. that will come back. >> here's the "but." she's the face of what she's cooking. she has this restaurant that's doing incredibly well in savannah and she has an upcoming book going gang busters in presales on amazon. obviously she was yanked from food network. i know you say she should dui g away. will food network give her her job back? >> no. they don't care about her fans. they have to answer to the advertisers. the advertisers say, whoa, we don't want anything do with that. they pay the bills and can shut off the lights. everyone stepped back when tiger woods went to sex therapy. american consumers and the american public has a very short attention span. she can go, come back and say

eliot spitzer joins us. from "the washington post" and all of you. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: wow. jacki learned a new song. look at that. hello. [ laughter ] >> it's in honor of summer. i thought i would expand by repertoire from one to two. >> stephanie: that was jazzy. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> stephanie: i think you are feeling perky because we are having another health care corner this morning.

eliot spitzer joins us tomorrow as well as neil king from the "wall street journal" as a "friend of bille you tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> what more could you ask for when i'm filling in for steph and the mooks while on vacation but to actually the lovely and talented news maven yourself jacki schechner in studio with us. >> aren't you a sweetheart. oh, i need my mic. >> that's more of a professional broadcaster kind of thing. you'll pick that up

my analogy is the fact when elliot spitzer got caught, you couldn't find him. debts. >> the boys, obviously, very authentic in their pain wanting the message to be straight this is all wrong, helpful? >> no question it was helpful, but this isn't like a tiger woods situation where she slept with someone, this is something that offends millions of people. >> this is something we do not tolerate in our society. >> no question, we don't. we're more tolerant of people having affairs, things like that. it's very decisive. that's why no matter how much she apologies, we're going to be very angry. time does heal. i'm not saying she'll ever be accepted for what she did, but time does heal. >> peter shankman, thank you very much. appreciate it very much. kate, back to you. >>> a young man who's never let his disability define him, now he's on a mission to prove just that. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has his story. >> wheelchair racer, hockey player, paraolympian, but there's one word he won't let define him, disabled. >> i was always one of these ki

we saw eliot spitzer who had a far worse scandal, at least some would argue, ended up with a tv show. exactly known as miss personality in new york. and let's face it, that would cause a lot of people to conclude something about new yorkers in general. >> what are you about to conclude, bob? >> either of them could probably work for the new york hospitality bureau. >> we're going to take a quick break and when we come back, the brain trust. bob, you know what i love about you, bob, you do the same thing that president obama does sometimes, when he says something funny, you beat the crowd to the laugh. you deliver the line and get the chuckle. >> i think i better, because maybe nobody else is going to. >> sneak peeks on the other side of this break. this is msnbc, the place for politics. >>> the brain trust is back. angela rye, bob franken, peter suderman. this could be a very busy week. congress returns, the supreme court could start issuing some long-awaited decisions. so brain trust, what were your headlines for congress and the supreme court laook like this week. peter suderman, we