and because of the statements, and many other things sydney powell has said, she is being sued, not byby two companies that provided election software to the u.s. during the 2020 election. dominion and smartmatic. miss powell has not admitted that many of her claims were false and today she pleaded guilty to six misdemeanor charges of election interference in georgia related to request to try to help trump stay in power, specifically her role in breaching voting machine equipment in coffee county, georgia. >> can you please state your two incorrect legal name? >> sydney katherine powell. >> how do you plead to the six count of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with election duties? >> guilty. >> as part of the deal she reached georgia prosecutors, powell receive six years probation and must pay a 6000 dollar fine. most importantly, though, her plea deal requires her to testify truthfully in the case, at the trials of any of the other georgia codefendants, including donald trump. so now the sydney powell is talking in georgia, what does that mean for donald trump? or for his

the case to cans sydney powell just went from strong to overwhelming. subpoenaed to testify at that upcoming speedy trial of codefendants sydney powell and kenneth chesebro is bernard kerik, who has already been convicted of crimes committed while he was new york city's police commissioner. which he was promoted to by then mayor giuliani after serving as the mayor's shoulder. bernie kerik's criminal defense attorney tim parlatore said in a letter to the detainees office, quote, mr. kerik intends to his fifth amendment rights and, refuses to answer any questions, today mr. parlatore said this. >> would he potentially be helpful in a case against sydney powell? i think we would. and i think that that is kind of a wrinkle to this case. it's difficult on a whole bunch of different levels. so i could see why they would want him to testify relevant to sydney powell. but if you are not willing to give him the basic protections that any normal prosecutor in any other prosecuting office in the country would do, then you are just not going to be able to force the

they agree that sydney powell matters. as a convicted criminal, veteran trump aide and cooperating witness, powell matters. she matters to prosecutors who will use her in her testimony to try to put others on trial. it's a group rico case. but trump thinking she matters, so much that he's trying to specifically make claims to distance her from him, as he has with others before him. we have seen that. now, that brings me to point three. some dominos are falling. if you could have predicted at the beginning who would crack first? many would not have predicted sydney powell. she performed as such a true believer, even trump dubbed her, quote, crazy. but powell is the first domino. in her public vow to testify against others, maybe chesebro crack and confess. another one cracked. another domino fell. he would have faced her damning testimony and risked much marriager, so tonight we start a new week. of course, the big question is a simple one. sometimes it's complicated, sometimes it ain't that complicated. are there more domin

so i think that puts sydney powell in a very precarious position of potentially having to testify, but by jack smith going forward. >> so gwen, in the georgia case, in the georgia courtroom, will sydney powell have potential fifth amendment protection against a question that is about a possible violation of federal law? >> well, as andrew said, she can't avoid the questions. she is now under a binding plea agreement to give truthful testimony. and let's remember, the d a's office already has a tape statement from her that she proffered prior to this deal going forward. so if she changes her testimony from that, then the dea will be able to impeach her with her prior video testimony. so, to andrew's point, this is a very thin line and it will be interesting to see how things proceed at the federal level, which is again why i can't imagine that was not considered as part of this. even if the final decision was left open, i'm assuming there had to be some sort of communication, perhaps one that said, if you cooperate at the state level, then we might consider it favorably at the federal c

but i do think that sydney powell is the bigger threat to candidate because we know that she had direct contact with donald trump. so if i was trump i'd be primarily worried about powell, secondarily about kenneth chesebro. >> do we know specifically what sydney powell has agreed to, how this will play out going forward? >> yeah, so we know she has pled guilty, and we also know that prior to this guilty plea she proffered with the state of georgia with fani willis and her prosecution team, what that means is that she and her attorney met behind closed doors, probably had a recorded statement or multiple statements that she gave kind of letting them know what all she knew, what documents she had. that proffer was a part of her plea deal. it probably was recorded and probably will be turned over at some point to trump and the other remaining defendants down the road. she has also been required to testify at trial and we also know that she will have to continue to cooperate with the state of georgia. again, she will be the bigger threat for donald trump because we know she was at white hou

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after this meeting with sydney powell, what does he do? he gets on twitter and he calls millions of people, all his followers to, come to d.c. because he wants it to be wild. she's gonna be offer insight into what he's thinking, what are you saying in that meeting, what was the state of mind in terms of how to overturn that election and how that plays and with the rally on the six. >> the washington post aaron blake writing exactly about this. what could she testify to? washington post reporting and georgia indictment described as top of seizing voting machines, having the national guard rerun the election and even appointing powell as a special counsel to investigate voter fraud. giving her actual special counsel doj duties, she could talk about all that. i also have to say, melissa, temidayo just talked about the speedy trial a little bit of bluff and bluff colleen, that sydney powell and kind of chesebro said they want trials, and really speedy, like six weeks from now. and willis obviously said, okay, bet, let's do it. and now you've g

sydney powell on videotape.deotape or not that means the testimony has been given. fani willis agreed to a no jail term for both of these people after seeing that testimony. all of that says this is a significant testimony it implicates trunk directly in terms of sydney powell and with chesbrough showing that donald trump doesn't have a serious advice of counsel. chesbrough are cork -- and special counsel jack smith's federal prosecution over the efforts to overturn the election. how will this relate to that and how these guilty pleas effect that case? >> that is such an excellent question because one of the unusual things here is you have people who accept responsibility with respect to crimes in state court in georgia. there is no agreement with respect to the federal case where they are reported to be unindicted coconspirators and they are listed in the indictment as unindicted coconspirators. that is one of the reasons why i'm a little more pessimistic than. neil it's unlikely they would be admitting to crim

former trump attorney, sydney powell pleaded guilty. that's right, guilty with the g today in the georgia election interference case as part of a plea deal with prosecutors. that means she could testify against the former president, paul is one of his lawyers of course after the 2020 election, she publicly and repeatedly pushed false conspiracy theories about the result. powell agreed to six years of probation around 9000 bucks in fines and she will submit an apology letter to the citizens of georgia. back with me tonight to discuss, former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. joyce, it's extraordinary, my team just said to me after a very difficult segment covering the war, they said, it's okay we have a much lighter segment coming up next. and to think, a lighter segment this about the former president and his former lawyer and a guilty plea. that doesn't seem right in all when you think about the grand scope of things. what were your takeaways? because we need to tell our audience, you predicted that

we saw him do it with sydney powell. he said, she wasn't really my lawyer. he can't do that with mark meadows, can he? this was his own chief of staff, his right-hand. he definitely has to be very nervous about these developments, today. >> i want to read to you a part of what he had to say on truth social. he is weighing in, surprise, surprise. he is saying, in part, quote, i don't think mark meadows would lie about the rigged and stolen 2020 presidential election, merely forgetting immunity, all caps, against prosecution. some people would make that deal, but they are weaklings and cowards. i don't think that mark meadows is one of them, but who really knows? what is this code? unpack it. >> sounds like witness tampering to me. i am no legal expert but it definitely sounds like he is trying to intimidate meadows. he knows that meadows was in the room and in these meetings and part of these conversations and would know a lot. so, he has to be worried if meadows is talking to the doj because that could spell trouble for him. meadows is smart to cooperate if

but trump saying, well, basically, sydney powell, i have never heard of her? >> yes, it's just another coffee boy or coffee girl as you would have it. this is trump's playbook. it's what he does every time someone close to him gets caught. you know, michael cohen when he first got nabbed by the fbi. oh, my questions of clients, he just doesn't work for me. you, know this is his standard thing. but for me from a long-term perspective, this is what the congressman was hinting at. it is a really dumb legal move, because it raises any issue of potential attorney-client privilege, and it exposes any type of record information to be freely provided by sydney powell now to the georgia prosecutors to say nothing of potentially jack smith. and there is no potential attorney-client privilege at play for trump to invoke. >> joyce something that came up that i did not realize when i interviewed neil on my show on saturday, the saturday show. sydney powell, as part of her deal had given videotape testimony to prosecutors as a part of this deal. correct me if i'm wrong, joy

in this case, hall, who pled guilty in september, i was in the same scheme as sydney powell, and thenhip to many of the people who chesbrough has a relationship to, especially, giuliani. so we are getting closer and closer to the most significant target of all, the former president. >> barbara, chesbrough is an unindicted conspirator coconspirator in the -- the jack smith indictment. does the fact that he's pled guilty here have any impact on that? i don't know how that works. could he become an indicted in spirit or? would he be cooperating in that case and does any of that matter? >> i think he does, ali. i can imagine a lawyer for someone like kenneth chesebro, thinking we're gonna plead guilty in this state case. and you're going to testify in the state case, knowing that that public testimony could be used against him in a federal case. as you say, is not yet indicted, but because he's an unindicted coconspirator, he certainly faces criminal exposure there. a savvy criminal attorney would reach out to jack smith, and how about a guilty plea, either we work out a deal of cooperati

attorney sydney powell pled guilty today to six counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference and performance of election duties. remember this moment is what she said, well, remember this, about the kraken? >> i'm going to release the kraken. >> well, i happen to love a good clash of the titans reference, but in this case she didn't release anything and, remember, the sydney powell would say one of the theories about hugo chavez in venezuela? >> the software that goes into other computerized coding systems here, as well, were created in venezuela at the direction of hugo chavez to make sure that he never lost an election. >> remember her legal defense in the dominion case, no reasonable person would believe her election fraud claims even though she was saying them. now, she was facing 70 felony charges including a -- and had been facing jail time. but now it is just probation, not jail time the prosecutions asking for, and that's all, right? well, not exactly. you better believe that when a prosecutor makes a plea offer, as she seems to have gotten, there is going to be some

after this meeting with sydney powell, what does he do? on twitter and he calls millions of people, his followers, to come to d.c.. because he wants to be wild. she's going to offer insight into what was he thinking, what did he say in that meeting, what rumors the state of mind as to how to overturn the election and how they played in with the rally on the sixth. >> the washington post -- writing exactly about this reporting in georgia -- top of his important machines, haven't let national guard re-run the electionn appointing powell as special fraud.l to investigate vote given her actual special counsel doj duties. she can talk about all that. i also have to say, melissa, we temidayo talked about the speedy trial, a little bit of bluff and blough calling. sydney powell and kenneth chesebro said we won speedy trials and we mean really speedy, six weeks from now. and willis's office said, okay, let's do it. and now you've got a plea front one but chance perot apparently has rejected his plea. and the trial is going to start. >> that jury s

sydney powell will lead to the other ones to take a plea., because that might end up determining who takes the plea. joyce vance, thanks so much for patients today. i really appreciate it. >> thanks, katie. >> still to, come project dynamo. how a veteran led group is saving stranded american civilians from the israel-hamas war. we're also following breaking news. a 17 truck convoy of eta's role in across the rafah border crossing right now from egypt into gaza. we've also received confirmation that at least five fuel trucks have entered gaza in the last few minutes. we're going to follow the story all morning long, and bring you updates as they come in. tes as they come in. r. the soul searcher. and - ahoy! it's the explorer! each helping to protect their money with chase. woah, a lost card isn't keeping this thrill seeker down. lost her card, not the vibe. the soul searcher, is finding his identity, and helping to protect it. hey! oh yeah, the explorer! she's looking to dive deeper... all while chase looks out for her. because these friends

sydney powell, pleading out, and now we are left with kenneth chesebro.he has also pled? >> >> amy, we are having an audio issue with you, we will check it out, and we will come back to you in just a moment. barbara, let me put that question to you, what is the overall significance of this? >> it is incredibly significant for a number of reasons. one, fani willis doesn't have to go to trial next week. she has secured a conviction, and she has removed any risk of an acquittal by a jury. but, also, she avoids having to show her hand with a preview trial, from before the other defendants go to trial. that is big. of course, the most significant reason, is that this is such a win for fani willis, is to have the testimony, and cooperation, of kenneth chesebro. he, more than any of these other defendants, is such a key to all of this, because he was the architect of the fake elector scheme. in addition to admitting to committing a crime, by conspiring to do it today, he has also provided a recorded proffer of his testimony. that testimony can help her to convic

. >> scott mcgrew, sydney powell was famous for saying that the trump team would release the crack en it was widespread evidence of fraud and they never did release that, right? powell was one of the lawyers who rocketed to notoriety after the election, making unfounded claims alongside jenaelis and rudy giuliani and alongside other defendants including donald trump of racketeering and conspiracy to commit election interference among other charges. this morning powell entered a guilty plea in an atlanta courtroom. >> how do you plead to the six counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with election duties? >> guilty. >> do you understand that you may have a limited right to appeal? >> yes. >> powell's hard to see in this fixed camera. she's center left of the defendant's table. the prosecution dropped her racketeering charge and reduced other charges in exchange for the plea. she'll serve six years' probation and agrees to testify against her fellow defendants and that would, of course, include donald trump. trump here seen yesterday attending the civil trial against hi

-- >> trump helps to strengthen donald trump. >> sydney powell and kenneth chesebro just struck pleaounty and both have agreed to testify in future trials. based on your investigations as vice chair investigating january 6th, do you think they have information that have bigger consequences of people up the food chain including donald trump? ? certainly. i think there's no question. i think in both cases, i mean, we know, for example that sydney powell was in key meetings at the white house including one where donald trump may well have signed invoking the insurrection act with mike flinn in the room who advocated seizing voting machines. we know that kenneth chesebro was directly involved in the fake elector scheme. >> it was his scheme, i think. >> well, he certainly helped to put it in place, but at the end of the day donald trump oversaw everything. >> right. >> and that scheme of presenting false electors to the united states congress in order to seize power to overturn an election to try to convince mike pence to take unlawful and unconstitutional action absolutely, directly tou

one sydney powell pled guilty to mr. meters.as brought to a felony, neither of them are serving to. their only reason you would ever agree to that is the prosecutor, as if they're providing evidence against higher ups. so here, i suspect this is incredibly bad news for donald trump. not news jonathan, he can, spin by saying oh this is a bunch of left wing radicals, or whatever. these are his handpicked monica kraken whack job lawyers. >>, yes as kimberly atkins said on twitter or on threads, she called, it i'll leave the jokes for later. katie phang in the last hour talk to chance burrow's attorney. listen to what he had to say and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> well mister chesbrough did take responsibility for conspiracy to commit filing a false document, i want to make something clear. he did not implicate anyone else. he implicated himself, in that particular charge. and while he is required to go testify, this day is gonna have to decide at some point whether they think mr. chesbrough's testimony will help them.

three years ago, sydney powell was introduced to america as a senior member of the legal team. pleaded guilty in the georgia election interference case, donald trump himself claims she was never his lawyer. mark mckinnon and stewart stevens is still with us. that clip and what trump did today reminds me of the important quote in the new book. the collapse of our democracy is like the pandemic. whatever you say to people, it will prove inadequate at the end. is that what we are seeing with the legal issues? >> it's hard to talk because it's absurd. we called it on a show it's over the top you have bizarre characters like sydney powell, these lunatic notions about venezuela. >> you can't even believe it's. rail if someone was saying this, talk to the stewardess, they would say tell the pilot about this. person is this really okay? and, of course, trump would embrace all these people. that's the thing, all these of people around trump who ended up in the right house. it's not like they were involved in presidential politics. when mark and i were doing races, all these, people stev

and for sydney powell, only misdemeanors.a poke. that is the idea that you don't buy something sight unseen. you want to see what you're getting before you offer the deal. these prosecutors have taken recorded proffers from both chesebro and sidney powell. they know exactly what they can say under oath in court. it's only after securing those proffers that these deals were finalized. i don't know exactly what they have to say you can guess they were involved in the fake elector scheme, they were involved in tampering with voting machines, in coffee county. prosecutors want what's known as substantial assistance. that means that they're going to advance the ball in the prosecution of other defendants. so, the fact that they got the sweetheart deals says, to me, they got the prosecution got a lot in exchange. >> baird, earlier, we discussed how trump raged on lies after the -- the plea deals broke. he was opening up of the evidence against him at these two expedited trials. do you think that's what's driving him, or at least hi

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let me play for you what sydney powell told the judge when she pleaded guilty.re you pleading guilty today because you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis? >> i did. >> two words. very simple. i do in regards of the evidence to support the facts of this case. it's got to be pretty damaging for anyone to, here especially donald trump, is this the most damaging thing that we have heard from anyone in this case so far? that there is evidence to prove that what they are alleging is in fact true? >> we have heard a lot of damaging things, i mean, the complaint, let's be honest, was pretty damaging. and what is already in the public record, what we have already seen with our own eyes, you mentioned all of this frivolous lawsuits and the fake elector scheme, there's a lot of damaging information here. but i think that you're exactly right to zero in on sydney powell, the fact that she has now pled guilty and that as part of this plea deal, she will testify against the other codefendants. or she will testify in those, presumably against them, so for the forme

whereu've seen sydney powell and chesebro both agree to these plea deals. don't know exactly what they're going to say. very involved in the presidents efforts overturn the 2020 election. they've now pleaded, or are pleading, guilty to these crimes. looking at probation, the expectation here is that theygit the government believes, the government of georgia believes, is helpful in his case against former president trump. >> i also want to ask you quickly about new york, as well, the judge overseeing trump's civil fraud trial find the former president $5,000 for defying this partial gag order. he even floated jail time for the former president over this issue as well. it was pretty clear that these gag orders could spell some trouble for trump. what is your reaction to this? and the possibility of what it could look like for him going forward? inside of an election year? >> great question, yasmin. former president trump makes the case that these gag orders or an effort to stifle political discourse. he sent a very differently to these gag orders, to protect

sydney powell pleads out an hour left with kendis chesebro.also blamed? >> -- >> amy, we're having an audio issue with you. we're gonna check that out and come back with you in a moment. barbara, let me put that question to you. what is the overall significance of this? >> well, it's incredibly significant for a number of reasons. one is, valueless doesn't have to go to trial next week. she secured a conviction and she has removed any risk of an acquittal by a jury. but also, she avoids having to show her hand with a preview trial before the other defendants go to trial. so the most important reason that this is such a win for fani willis's, to have the testimony and cooperation of kenneth chesebro. he, more than any of these other defendants, is a key to all of this, because he was the architect of the fake electors scheme. so in addition to admitting to committing the crime by conspiring to do that, today he has also provided a recorded proffer of his testimony. that testimony can help her to convict some of the other people involved in this

. >> what about the plea deal details, katie, from sydney powell and kenneth chesbrough?r trump legal advisers. you had a great interview. this is what really struck me. take a look, everyone, at this. >> i want to make something clear. he did not implicate anyone else. he implicated himself in that particular charge. someone asked me earlier, if you were donald, trump would you be worried. i can personally, honestly, answer, no. it is not that mr. chesbrough is trying to protect donald trump, or anyone else. i, personally, do not believe the state will call him to testify on their behalf. >> really? i, mean how would chesbrough get a deal without getting anyone, or anything, up? >> yes,, alex that's a good. point you and i both know, fani willis didn't just wake up yesterday and become the district attorney of fulton county, of georgia. there was a recorded profit that was given by kind of chesbrough friday morning. while the jurors are filling out the written questionnaires, the value of that offer had to be evaluated by the d.a.'s. here's the next thing to think about,

the other problem is, you compare him or you say he sydney powell, he is, he sydney powell but on steroids right? >> the app. >> he actually went to court to try to help donald trump overturn the elections of the 2020 results. how scary is it then, all joking aside, but this unassuming guy, right? how scary is it that someone like this is kind of waiting in the wings and laying in wait for an opportunity like this? >> look, there's two really scary things about him, the religious stuff, right? he really does believe what he says and he spent years and years and years writing and talking. this guy makes mike pence look like a moderate, right? not so religious. he writes, you know, he has the special marriage that's called a covenant marriage where it's harder to get divorced. the stuff this guys up to is so far out of the mainstream, even for mainstream christians. it's a sort of very religious, almost kind of zion, zell it is kind of religion. i would say that's quite scary. the other thing i think is quite scary is that he is a lawyer and he has been working on undermining the 2020 electi

this defendant certainly was working closely with sydney powell.imony valuable in the case against her. there is also been reporting that on january 2nd of 2021, when all that crazy stuff was going on at the white house, he had a 63-minute phone call with jeffrey clark. the doj official. so, he clearly has information about that phone call as well. so, he could be a real key person here to the entire case falling apart against these other defendants. >> your take on this scott hall flip, jennifer. >> well, i think barbara is absolutely right. what happens is, he is in a position to give very damaging testimony against sydney powell. so, she decides, well, now i need to make a deal. she gives more damaging testimony against the rest of them. so, this is how it works. we have talked about going from the bottom up and then investigation. well, it also works when you start flipping witnesses like this. i also think the other facts, the other developments last week there were harmful with trump where more people were denied a chance to put their case in

these are two people sydney powell, at one point was supposed to be a strong trump loyalist. >> sydneyhis lawyer. he's giving her the coffee boy treatment here and it's funny to me because counselor kraken after they found out and now she is turning states evidence. donald trump is not happy about this. we know. he's been unhappy about the fact that there is a r. i. c. o. charge. you have all these people who are more incentivized to flipping become states evidence than to go down with donald trump he demands loyalty to everybody else but he's not loyal to anyone. so, i interviewed michael cohen once and i asked him which one of trump's children when he throw overboard first. and he gave an order he thinks he would throw's own kids under the bus. first era. ken and don junior. and then ivanka came down to. it donald trump is not loyal to anyone and any of these people who are facing jail time or fines or losing their law licenses. why in god's green earth with they continue to go down with the ship and now someone like rudy giuliani is so desperate. he's broken he is desperate and trum

. >> this comes just one day after another coup plotter and another lawyer, sydney powell, notoriousmise to release the kraken, also -- in exchange for her pleading guilty to misdemeanors, she got probation in a fine and promised to testify truthfully at all proceedings involving the remaining codefendants. and of course includes the ex president. as of yesterday we knew that she is broidy previously declined to plea along similar lines. but today, with jury selection for his trial already underway, he pleaded guilty to one lo count of conspiracy to commit fing false documents relating to the fake electors plot and agedo testify against the remaining defendants. like powell, crucially, he avoids jail and prison time. he gets probation and a fine in return for his guilty plea. so now, out of the original 19 defendants you see there on the screen, in trump's legal trial, there are now 16 left, three cooperators who have agreed to provide testimony and take please. two of those, powell and chesebro, are fairly close to the inner ring of the cool plot. the arrow is not going in the right

release the kraken and sydney powell. do think there's a difference between the death threats issued for trump and jim jordan whose position is declining here. how do you think this jordan saga ends -- i shouldn't say jordan saga. the speaker saga ends. >> i don't know. my guess is i think it'll probably end with someone like patrick mchenry. >> getting an extension. >> yes. because it just doesn't seem like there's any other way out short of the matt gaetz caucus. if the matt gaetz caucus couldn't bring themselves to vote for steve scalise mr. kindler jet gentler i don't think they're going to find themselves able to get in line to somebody even more moderate than that. it's hard to imagine some republicans will peel away and make a deal with democrats. but i think our politics now are in a place where all outcomes are very hard to imagine but something has to happen. >> well, and it's clear that they can't -- they can't get it done on their own own. the only question is what kind of price are democrats going to extract

scott hall and sydney powell and kenneth reach agreements prior and that leaves 15 ot others ine massivease being bt by the da in fulton county and includes the former president trump. to date, those that changed their pleas, one received five years probation and $5,000 fine and another got five years probation and $5,000 fine and sydney powell, six years probation and $6,000 fine and then community service. >> dana: they have to write an apology to the st.s of georgia. citizens of georgia. they're looking into that and so far all the people indicted in the particular case, it's the lawyers, the attorneys who have to get lawyers who are all deciding to plead guilty. maybe there'll be more and that's interesting and similar now and five years probation and $5 in restitution. >> dana: probably a letter of apology. likely on stand by. >> dana: another case, former president trump and michael cohen taking stand as part of new york's civil fraud case and expected to testify that the former president knew the trump organization was inflating its assets and nate foy is live outside the new york

sydney powell admits she tried to interfere with the outcome of the 2020 presidential election in georgias paula reid explains why her guilty plea could have a huge impact. >> how do you plead to the six counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with regards to election duties? >> guilty. >> former trump attorney sydney powell appeared in a georgia courtroom this morning, the second person to plead guilty and the sprawling case over efforts to overturn the 2020 election in that state. >> do you understand by pleading guilty, you are giving up the right to trial by jury. >> yes. >> as part of the deal, powell will amid her role in the january 2021 breach of voting systems in murrell coffee county, georgia, we required to write an apology letter to the citizens of the state and pay nearly $9,000 in restitution and fines as well as turn over documents. powell admits to taking steps after the 2020 election for the purpose of fully tempering with electronic ballot markets and tabulating machines, which were overt acts to affect the objects of the conspiracy and with the intention

at 5:15 pm, georgia judge scott mcafee held a hearing on motions to dismiss by codefendant sydney powell, and indicated that a dismissal would be unlikely. leading off our discussion tonight, barbara mcquade. former u.s. attorney and law professor at the university of michigan law school. glenn kirschner, a former federal prosecutor, and host of the justice matters podcast. both are and msnbc legal analyst. and bradley moss is with us, a national security attorney who represents people who work the intelligence community. bradley moss, let me begin with you on this breaking news of this hour. about donald trump verbally, apparently, sharing nuclear submarine secrets with an australian, who then told approximately 80 people, according to the follow-up reporting on how many people this person told. just an endless stream of people kept hearing about. just from that one source. what does this do to the prosecution of donald trump in florida, if anything? >> >> it certainly expect to see stories like this played out as facts witness. just reestablish a pattern of conduct by donald trump how

details on sydney powell's stunning plea deal in the georgia election interference case.hat it could mean for codefendants, like donald trump. >> the republican congressman jim jordan, if i don't succeed, then try, try, and try again. and so it will be in his bid to be elected house speaker. jordan lost the first vote on tuesday, a second vote on wednesday, and by a wider margin, in friday's expected to hold a news conference ahead of what will likely be a third vote for speaker. jordan's leading support the longer this goes, on it is under growing pressure to pull out. others say they have not been the proper can say they're not change their minds. >> we made the pitch to members on the resolution is a way to lower the temperature, and get back to work, and we decided that wasn't where we're going to go. i'm still running for speaker, and i plan to go to the floor. and get the votes. and win this race. >> the u.s. house is now been without speaker since kevin mccarthy was ousted more than two weeks ago. trump campaign where in peddler of conspiracy theories is come to pr

you may remember sydney powell. pushed crazy conspiracy theories about how the ghost of hugo chavez rigged the 2020 election, and promised to publish non-existent evidence of widespread fraud, vowing to release the "kraken." turns out, it was less "release the kraken" and more "i think she might be smoking the kraken." powell wasn't known just for talkin' crazy. she was also known for writin' stupid, because her legal documents were notoriously littered with spelling errors, misplaced states, and client mix-ups. in one case, the court was misidentified as "the united states districct court, northern distr-coict of georgia." while in another, she referenced the "suprior" court of the state of arizona. i'm not surprised she spells like that. she got her degree from herrverd lawr. herrverd lawr. perk the ker in kerrverd yerd. powell pleaded guilty to six counts of conspiracy related to her role in helping to carry out a breach of voting equipment in a rural georgia county and will serve six years of probation. so she'l

baseless conspiracy thaoer reus and failed lawsuit, sydney powell worked feverishly to keep donald trumppower. this morning a turn about. >> how do you plead to the fifth count of conspiracy to commit intentional interference of election duties? >> guilty. >> reporter: powell is the first person with direct ties to trump to plead guilty in the georgia case and agree to cooperate with fulton county prosecutors. >> you are here to testify truthfully against any and all co-defendants in the matter and any upcoming proceedings. >> my understanding is that she was involved in some of the conversations of the inner circle and she may be able to tie the former president to criminal conduct. >> reporter: powell was part of a december 2020 meeting in the oval office where she allegedly urged trump to seize voting machines and appoint her to investigate. she also pushed the false conspiracy theory georgia voting machine weres controlled by venezuela. even pointing a finger at the country's former dictator, hugo chavez, who is dead. >> this was exported from venezuela by mr. chavez. this is the con

federal court, district court litigation. >> so, sydney powell -- they both pled guilty to trump lawyershat does that mean for other defendants in georgia? >>, well i think a few things. i mean, now we've had three people plead guilty. we've had people who are actually pretty heavily involved, pretty high-level circles to mr. trump, who have actually admitted their guilt. and even though i tend to think that these sentences here were quite light for the significance of what they did, it shows one, they felt that the state had the evidence against them, that it was good enough to convict them. and so, they wanted to try and cut a deal. two, they are available to testify in future cases, including against mr. trump, and if fani willis believes their testimony is credible, i suspect that she will call them. and i think it sends a signal to others that in the states but a real case here, and you have a choice now, try to work and deal with the state, or go and take your chances at trial. >> mary mccord, so much legal expertise at this table. thank you so much for joining me this evening. and

sydney powell, if you look at the indictment, she was heavily involved in this distinct coffee countyof voting systems there. as laid out in the indictment, she had this direct contact with than former president trump as well. so, they covered a lot of different ground, that's what was, we actually, when they were set to be tried with one another, they didn't want to be tried together. they were complaining to the judge, essentially, our charges have nothing to do with each other. it would not be fair for us to be tried together. that claim was rejected. then set to go forward together before they pleaded. that underscores the different grounds that they might cover. >> jordan, real quick here. in talking about the special counsel as well, the former president saying he is absolutely immune for prosecution. as former president -- jack smith's team submit to that erin burr. his own remarks on his 2021 impeachment trial for allegedly inciting the january 6th insurrection comment on this quickly for me if you can. >> it's trump saying he's above the law. that's what it comes down to. tha