they argue that statements from judge tanya chutkan in other january 6th cases are, quote, inherently disqualifying. it is up to chutkan if she'll remain on the case or if another judge will be assigned. >>> flash flooding hit the northeast last night as storms moved through the region. rhode island's emergency least 30 water rescues were conducted in providence. >>> and apple is expected to unveil the iphone 15 today at the company's annual keynote event at headquarters in california. it will be livestreamed online beginning at 10:00 a.m. local time. >>> for more, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. >>> it's tuesday, september 12th, 2023. this is the "cbs morning news." >>> sifting through the rubble. rescuers work around the clock to find those still alive in morocco as the earthquake death toll nears 3,000. >>> dramatic rescue. the american caver who suffered a medical emergency deep underground is hoisted to safety. the latest on his condition. >>> superstar sidelined. quarterback aaron rodgers gets injured on the first drive of his season. we'll tell you

you hear and all the rest but let's dig in and specifically i want to dig into the judge judge tanya chutkanthis is very important. let's start with the facts, with the law. there is something called the code of conduct for the united states judges, did you know that existed? so they have a code of conduct for the united states judges just as they have for lawyers and they have them for doctors and other professions and the judges are compelled to comply with. i am here to make the case that judge tanya chutkan is unqualified as a federal judge to handle the january 6 case and in fact really is unqualified to be a judge of any kind. that is pretty harsh but it's exactly correct, here is the code of conduct for the united states judges. this is not optional, this is required. the judge must follow. i want to read some of it to you. and independent honorable judiciary is indispensable, the justice in our society, a judge should maintain and enforce high stakes of conduct interpersonally observe those standards so the integrity and independence of the judiciary may be preserved, the provision s

his lawyers filed to have the judge, tanya chutkan, asked her to recuse herself.ore of his legal team told appeals court that his defamation trial set for january should be put on hold so he can argue presidential immunity. that trial, keep in mind, is only about how much he owes writer e. jean carroll for defaming her, since the jury already found him liable for defamation and sexual abuse. in georgia the ex president's lawyers are asking the judge to toss out eight of the 13 counts brought against him by fulton county district attorney fani willis. cyrus vance junior served as a manhattan district attorney to until 2:22. his office began a long investigation into donald trump 's hush money case. the first case in which the ex president was indicted. tsai vance joins me now. good to see. the decision of the manhattan district attorney as one of the, at the state level, probably where the most high-profile prosecutors in the country, i think it would be fair to say. more there's a whole law and order show about to you. and it's natural that you have a lot of eyes

they argue that statements from judge tanya chutkan and other january 6th cases are, quote, inherentlyalifying. it is up to chutkan if she'll remain on the case or if another judge will be assigned. >>> flash flooding hit the northeast as storms moved through the region. rhode island's emergency management agency said at least 30 water rescues were conducted in providence. >>> and apple is expected to unveil the iphone 15 today at the company's annual keynote event at headquarters in california. it will be livestreamed online beginning at 10:00 a.m. local time. >>> for more, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. i'm olivia gazis, cbs news, new york. >> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." >>> we begin tonight overseas with a race against time as rescue teams in morocco scour the rubble in a furious search for survivors. the area's strongest earthquake in more than a century has killed nearly 3,000 with thousands more injured. but those numbers are expected to rise in the hours and days ahead. the destruction and devastation are beyond words with at least

judge tanya chutkan has scheduled a hearing on october 16th to hear arguments on whether to grant a limited ghana corridor on trump in that case. do you expect her to grant that gag order? >> i think it is likely. i think we've already seen that the rhetoric coming from the trump camp has been really inflammatory. she's a very meticulous. judge she recognizes that there are a lot of equities to be balanced here. the interest in the safety of all of these individuals, as well as the interest in free. speech they both have to be balanced. here again, given the highly highly -- high profile nature of all of, this i think she will grants the government some of its request. they have to make it -- but she's very much said that she is not the one to play with. here she is already gotten rid of that recusal, motion she's going full speed ahead. she will deal with this particular gag order -- in a very perfunctory fashion and get the order out and get a decision. >> we're out of time, but i have to ask you if the -- reveal too she plans on calling to the witness stand, including trump, three of us,

amna, donald trump is asking the judge, in the federal election case, tanya chutkan, to recuse yourself. that is not going to have been. this request is going to make no headway, in a court of law. she's done nothing wrong. but what about the court of public opinion? this trump, doing things like this over and over, muddy the waters enough where some people start to buy his false narrative and give him a talking point to push? >> i mean, if history is a guide here, stephanie, then absolutely. it has been long part of the trump playing book to work to undermine any system that could potentially go against him. and that way, if it does go against, him you could say it's rigged from the start. you've seen this, not just with this courts, is but also with elections. let's remind everyone, that language about the system being rigged. the election is rigged. if i lose, we've been hearing this for years from mr. trump. the language around judge chutkan, has been coming publicly from mr. trump for a while. he's done this in a number of cases. both attacking the prosecutors and the judges who we

. >>> the former president calling on judge tanya chutkan to recuse herself from his case. his attorneys saying, only if this trial is administered by a judge that appears entirely impartial could the public accept the case. trump and his attorneys have just filed a motion to have the entire indictment thrown out. paula reid joins us now with more on that. let's talk about the judge in the federal case first to recuse herself. >> anderson, judge tanya chutkan was randomly koez hadden to oversee the case. she's made her opinions and her views on the capitol attack pretty clear, as she's overseen multiple trials of rioters. and she has also really earned a reputation for being pretty harsh when it comes to sentencing. but in this filing, trump's lawyers argue that certain comments that she made during some of those sentencings mean that she needs to step aside. the first one they point to is from october 2022, where she said, quote, the people who mobbed that capitol where there in fealty, in loyalty to one man, not to the constitution. it's a blind litoyalty to one person, w

attorneys for the former president moved to have tanya chutkan recuse herself.gence correspondent, ken dilanian, and also an msnbc legal analyst. what kind of statements are trump's attorneys pointing to when it comes to them thinking tanya chutkan recusing herself. >> well, she has been known as a tough sentencer in the january 6th riots, and she made comments that seemed to elude to former president trump. in one case she told the defendant that the cap capitol rioters were pledged to one person, and what trump's lawyers are saying is that those comments seem to suggest that she believes donald trump was complicit in the capitol riots, and therefore can't be neutral. >> what can come into play when judges recuse themselves? >> they have to step down only when their impartialality. he requested why it was only the little fish being prosecuted for january 6th, and the judge said that was a good point but she doesn't have any influence over the charging decisions of the prosecutors. josÉ, i think trump's lawyers have to know this is a losing motion, but defense a

and, in washington, he wants the federal judge, tanya chutkan, to recuse herself from the 2020 election subversion case. the one that it's brought, of course, by special counsel jack smith. he is arguing the public will not accept the outcome of the case if she doesn't recuse herself. meanwhile, in georgia, he's also asking the court to dismiss several criminal charges against him in that election interference case. let's not forget, tomorrow is the deadline for one fani willis to explain how all 19 cases there would possibly, or could possibly, be tried together. that is a tomorrow's news tonight. plus, what is the strategy of those 19 defendants behind the scenes in the georgia r.i.c.o. case and are they getting a little bit of a preview of the government's case? we'll tell you all about it. and, listen to what georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger told anderson cooper tonight. we've got much more to come everyone, on all of that, but i want to begin with all of the fast moving developments tonight in the criminal case against donald trump. joining me now is former trump white

trump's lawyers demanding that judge tanya chutkan recuse herself over past comments she made about thean is one of the toughest punishers of those defendants, here are just some of the comments that trump's team is fighting to make this claim. quote, the people who mob the capitol that were there in fealty, in loyalty to one man, not to the constitution, it is blind loyalty to one person who, by the, way remains free to this day. in another statement, she said that the people who encouraged and rallied rioters to go to the capitol have not been charged, adding that she has her own opinions, but they are not relevant to the case. and, finally, when she rejected trump's attempts to block white house records over the attack, she said, quote. presidents are not kings and the plaintiff is not a president. let's discuss this and more worth four manhattan district attorney cy vance. he began the investigation that led to donald trump's indictment related to a ismini payment to adult film star stormy daniels in 2016. he is here in studio with us, thank you for joining us. you are obviously ver

and, in washington, he wants the federal judge, tanya chutkan, to recuse herself from the 2020 election brought, of course, by special counsel jack smith. he is arguing the public will not accept the outcome of the case if she doesn't recuse herself. meanwhile, in georgia, he's also asking the court to dismiss several criminal charges against him in that election interference case. let's not forget, tomorrow is th

good evening, we begin tonight with breaking news, the former president calling out federal judge tanya chutkan to recruits herself from his case. that, a warning from his attorneys who say in their request, quote, only at this trial is administered by a judge who appears entirely impartial, could the public ever except the outcome as justice. as one of the federal cases against him, there's also breaking news in the georgia case, where trump and his attorneys have just filed a motion to have the entire indictments thrown out. cnn's paula reid joins us with more on that. so, let's talk about trump's request for the judge in the federal case for us to recruit herself. >> anderson, judge tanya chutkan was randomly assigned oversee the trump election subversion case. she was appointed by former president obama, she's been on the bench for about a decade. she has made her opinions and her views on the capitol attack pretty clear, as she has overseen multiple trials of rioters. she's also really earned a reputation for being pretty harsh when it comes to sentencing. kendis filing, trump's lawyers ar

trump has repeatedly been citing things that judge tanya chutkan has said in the past, including when she was referring to other january 6th codefendants. and she said of these other -- not codefendants -- of these other people who have been tried, it's a blind loyalty to one person who remains free to this day, referring to trump. trump says that shows bias. does he have a valid concern? >> i think that's a valid concern and a good argument on his part, especially that particular quote. i think that's the strongest one because it does indicate or suggest that she's saying he remains free, which trump's lawyers are saying that means she's saying that he should've been charged. but the bar is super high for getting a judge to recuse themself, especially if a statement came in the court setting based on the evidence they saw in this courtroom which has all these other january 6th cases. that's very hard for him to cross that bar, but i do think it's a strong argument on his part to at least raise that publicly. >> thank you very much, ryan, anthony, appreciate both of you tonight. >>> a

his team argues judge tanya chutkan has shown bias against him and they're asking that she respectfullyp aside. joining us msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. trump's lawyers are pointing to a couple things she said during sentencing for january 6th defendants. what did she say and is that a qualified ground to get rid of her? >> let's start with what she said. in two separate sentencings they cite, she made comments. one was definitely about former president trump. in one situation she told the defendant she had unfettered loyalty or blind loyalty to one man who, by the way, has still not been charged. >> a blind loyalty who by the way remains free to this day. she said that during a 2022 sentencing. >> in another sentencing she was talking to a defendant who had invoked all the people who exhorted him to participate, who planned the january 6th events and basically said none of these people are being held accountable. her response was, you make a very good point and i might have my own opinions, but that's not relevant here. your conduct is what's relevant here. notwithstanding that, trum

. >>> despite the objections of former president trump's legal team, judge tanya chutkan will preside over his trial she ruled against the requests for her recusal for perceived anti-trump comments she had made in cases related to january 6. she wrote that her comments reflected the information in those cases and has never taken the position that trump should be prosecuted or imprisoned. trump plead not guilty earlier this summer. >>> a bill tra couhat could hope expand the marijuana industry just cleared a big hurdle. cannabis is not legal at the federal level right now, so it can be hard to get traditional funding, even if it's legal at that state level the senate banking committee has advanced a new solution to the chamber floor. the bill has bipartisan support in the senate, but it could face a tougher battle in the house. >>> north korea's kim jong un made a public call to increase the country's nuclear weapons. according to north korean state media kim made the comments during the country's two-day parliament session it's now part of north korea's constitution he called for his

judge tanya chutkan carroll anytime at the end of september, whether or not to impose this narrow gag order. but it could have thick implications on the state of the 2024 race, and the ways in which the front runner himself can actually talk about some of the indictments that he is facing going into voting season. meanwhile, on the campaign trail, you've got most of the rest of the field out in ottawa. trump skipping the events, and skipping those cases. not going where the field is. instead, everyone is going to be in iowa, unto conservative gatherings. nikki haley, vivek ramaswamy, the rest of the field all trying to capitalize on the fact that they can introduce themselves, and continue to to voters. without the former president looming over it. >> okay, thank you ali for that. well i just will be joined right now very quickly with former lead attorney for the committee. timothy. i've got a big interview with you coming up. but i want to get a big prediction with this gag order. isn't an effort to have donald trump sparking violent reaction from some of his supporters? >> yes i thi

prosecutors today noting that trump has often attacked judge tanya chutkan herself, calling her "a fraudressed up as a judge" and "a radical obama hack." the special counsel says supporters of the former president have made death threats against her and her office. they say trump is purposely trying to fire up his supporters, adding "the defendant knows that when he publicly attacks individuals and institutions, he inspires others to perpetrate threats and harassment against his targets." >> they want to silence me because i will never let them silence you. >> reporter: the special counsel arguing trump's "repeated and relentless posts, also reach the jury pool for this trial," and that his attacks on witnesses like pence and former attorney general bill barr constitute "an effort to influence the public's and the jury pool's impressions of potential witnesses outside of the courtroom." smith asking the judge to restrict trump from making any public statements "regarding the identity, testimony, or credibility of prospective witnesses," and "statements about any party, witness, attorney,

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and if he speaksderanged deceits judge tanya chutkan is going to put him in jail. are kidding me. >> yeah, he's obviously incredibly left-wing in the eyes of many herself. now, trump just responded moments ag jail,o on truth socil mike saying in part, i'm campaigning for president against an incompetent person who has weaponized the doj, fbi to go after his political opponent. and i'm allowed to comment.tentp fbey leak, lieer and sue and thy won't allow me to respond. how else would i explain d, t jack smith is derange crooked, and that joe's incompetent? you an, trump is he is funny. you have to get given that. but look, that i thinkocial that truth social post would be something that smith would take to the judge chutkan and say aha, sayke to th he viod the gag order that we presume she'll, he vio consider seriousy issuing. and then then what'slty for the penalty for that. mike how do you then enforce the gag order? if trump says, go ahead, try koch could, come after me, because you know, trump's going to do that. >> yeah. i mean, what is she going to hold him in

special counsel jack smith has been saying in the last couple days in terms of wanting this judge, tanya chutkano put a gag order on him, that trump is again engaging in this incendiary rhetoric. the other day, talking about mark milley, how he should be executed. i believe he also referred to almost purchasing a gun, which he's not supposed to do earlier this week. and that clip we just played. he's minimizing what took place with paul pelosi. we should remind our viewers, the reason paul pelosi was attacked was the intruder was trying to go after the house speaker nancy pelosi at the time, who is by the way, one of the former president's political enemies. and is this war evidence for jack smith to take to the judge and say, we need a gag order on the former president here. >> i think he could add that in. it just happened recently. i think it fosters this notion that trump enjoys the idea of violence happening in favor of him or against his enemies. and i think that's the picture that smith is trying to paint for the judge. this isn't just first amendment political speech. he is really foster

>> well, this is a particular case from donald trump is settled to get this judge tanya chutkan off of the case that is set to go to trial next year, but it is an opinion worth noting, because this judge is asked to address political attacks that donald trump has brought into the courtroom, and something that is a tactic that he has tried in a number of the cases, and it continues on with the judges and the prosecutors are having to grapple with. in this particular case, he was trying to say that the judge chutkan should not be on the case, because of the sentences she had already imposed and sentencing two capitol riot defendants to jail time, and in those case k two of the capitol rioters had argued with the sentences that they should shift the blame to trump, and not fully responsible because for some reason they were at the capitol for donald trump, and she had rejected that in the sentencing, and now also rejecting donald trump's request here. one of the things she writes in the opinion is that her statements in the sentencing arose not as the defendant speculates from the news, b

federal judge tanya chutkan, who is overseeing donald trump's federal 2020 election subversion criminal case, will not disqualify herself from the matter, rejecting a long shot bid from the former president's legal team. evan perez is digging into this. so tell us, evan, what are you learning? >> well, this was always a very, very long shot chance for the former president to try to get this judge off of this case. she rejected it handily. she said that the statement that she has made from the bench which was one of the reasons why the trump lawyers were citing, called into question whether she could be impartial in overseeing this case, she says that that really doesn't hold water. she cited a number of cases where you know, she has been according to the trump team, she's been harsh. she made comments about the fact the former president had not yet been held accountable and points out that those were in response to things that were being done inside, in those court cases. again, not reaching the level where you could say that she was, she was not being impartial or where she could not c

so now they're asking the judge tanya chutkan to do something about trump's words, saying the defendant'sinflammatory public statements regarding the district of columbia, the court, prosecutors and potential witnesses are substantially likely to materially prejudice the jury pool, create fear among potential jurors and result in threats of harassment of individuals he singles out. put simply, those involved in the criminal justice process who read and hear the defendant's disparaging and inflammatory messages from court personnel to prosecutors to witnesses to potential jurors may reasonably fear they could be the next targets of the defendant's attacks. because of that, the special counsel wants judge chutkan to issue an order restricting trump from making certain comments. the special counsel, they've really laid out a number of social media posts and comments from trump over recent weeks that have targeted not only the special counsel jack smith, but also former vice president mike pence and even a prosecutor on jack smith's team. now judge chutkan has to make that determination. she

a call was receid in the chambers of the district of columbia t judge tanya chutkan. the caller threatened to kill anyone w went after former president trump including a direct threat to kill congresswoman jackson lee and people in the lgbtq community. this is a detention memo for a went to obama's house.llegedly he on kevin mccarthy's offer toroduce video. allegedly this man went to the house of president a. he beganife streamingro his van on his youtube channel. he was driroun the neighborhood in washington, d.c. following the arrest offic located the van where he parked it on the street. two firearms and hundreds of rounds of ammunition were located inside the van. i can go on and on. it's already happening in terms of the threat existing. law enforcement, thanks to the kinds of things you reported on, are staying ahead of it. the picture you paint suggests that even the people in charge of protecting us now need protection. >> correct. the prosecutors. you know, there's a larger question that this raises which is what does this say to people about going into publi

tonight another judge, federal district judge tanya chutkan denied the former president's motion she recuse herself. judge chutkan said her comments made during her sentencing of january 6th defendants were not evidence of bias, as trump attorneys claimed. the court, she writes, has never taken a position. the defense describes to it that former president should be prosecuted and imprisoned. this comes after a new york judge's -- yesterday that the built on evaluations of assets. the new york judge today gave the defense 20 more days on top of the ten days they'd already had to put forward a plan for putting the trump organization into receivership. the rest of the civil trial, which could result in a quarter billion dollar civil penalty goes on, whatever happens next, the judge's fraud ruling is knocked down, the foundation over which donald trump's business was built over the years and how he portrayed himself. >> here's the good news. i'm very rich. i started off with a million dollar loan. i met a net worth of more than $10 billion. i would say i'm worth more than $5 million. i'm

he's asking the judge, tanya chutkan, for what he's calling a narrowly tailored order to stop the former president from making statements that could, well, intimidate witnesses or jurors or even lead to harassment. and how do you think trump is responding? i'll give you a cliff-hanger and tell you about that in just a moment. >>> plus, it's day one of the autoworkers strike, the first in history against all of the big three automakers. and the union is now warning that more workers will go on strike if they don't get the better pay and the benefits they're demanding. they're walking the picket lines as we speak right now, but in a matter of hours, they will be back at the bargaining table. meanwhile, the companies are fighting back. ford laying off 600 workers. tonight i'll talk to one striking worker. she's a mom of seven who works up to six days per week and is barely making enough to survive, she says. >>> i want to begin with the latest on the filing from the new special counsel, of course jack smith. joining me tonight, washington correspondent t.m. mitchell, associate professor of

judge tanya chutkan, quote, it is not warranted after the former president claimed shetd to see him behind bars. trump is calling for a different judge, the one here in new york, to, quote, be stopped. the judge found that he and his two adult sons were liable for fraud, saying they massively overvalued his assets, deceived banks, and exaggerated trump's net worth in making deals and securing loans. he's not as rich as he claims to be, and his property is not valued at what he said it was. and his first hearing that happened since this ruling came down last night, trump's attorneys seem to struggle to even understand the implications of what the judge's call means here. one of trump's attorneys asked the judge to clarify, what does this ruling mean for his businesses? the attorney asked another question, one that's pretty fundamental it would seem to be, what's the point of a trial at this point given this ruling? well, that trial is set to begin on monday. but what is still at the heart of the question here and what this ruling from the judge could mean is whether or not this is the begig

so now they're asking judge tanya chutkan to do something about trump's words, laying it out this waysaying the defendant's repeated inflammatory public statements regarding the district of columbia, the court, prosecutors and potential witnesses are substantially likely to materially prejudice the jury pool, create fear among potential jurors and result in threats or harassment to individuals he singles out. put simply those involved in the criminal justice process who read and hear the defendant's december parjing messages from court personnel to potential jurors they may reasonably fear they could be the next target of the defendant's attacks. because of that, the special counsel wants judge chutkan to issue this order restricting trump from making certain comments. the special counsel really is laying out a number of other social media posts and comments from trump over recent weeks that have targeted jack smith himself, the special counsel, even former vice president mike pence and even a prosecutor on jack smith's team. it's interesting to note that judge chutkan already ordered

federal criminal case against donald trump and his attempts to subvert the 2020 election judge tanya chutkandenied trump's request that she recuse herself from that case. we are still awaiting her ruling on special counsel jack smith's for a limited gag order to be imposed on trump. meanwhile, prosecutors in the georgia case against trump and 18 other defendants are raising concerns about the defense. today, fulton county district attorney fani willis asked the judge to issue a protective order on discovery materials, citing concerns over previous instances of doxxing. the district attorney noted, both in this filing and over the weekend, that her own personal information was leaked, including the home addresses of multiple family members. joining me now is melissa redmon, former fulton county district attorney, now officially an msnbc contributor. first off, the request for a protective order -- discovery materials have already been shared. is it strange or in any way unusual to ask for a protective order after the materials have already been shared with the defense? >> it is. you would exp

and intimidation because of various statements of donald trump, so now they're asking the judge, tanya chutkansomething about it. they're laying it out this way. the president's repeated defamatory statements are substantially likely to materially prejudice the jury pool, create fear among potential jurors, and result in threats or harassment to individuals he singles out. put simply, those involved in the justice process who read and hear the defamatory messages from court personnel to prosecutors to witnesses to potential jurors may reasonably fear they could be the next targets of the defendant's attacks, and because of that the special counsel wants judge chutkan to restrict trump from making certain comments. the special counsel have really laid out a number of social media posts and comments from trump over recent weeks that have targeted not only the special counsel jack smith but the former vice president mike pence and even an attorney, a prosecutor on jack smith's team. so now judge chutkan, she has to make that determination. she already ordered trump to refrain from disparaging com

and when ever this judge, tanya chutkan, does to respond to the jus it department's ask, there will beuestion of what the consequence could be for donald trump. his lawyers say in the filing let's be clear, the prosecution hopes to create a contempt trap for president trump and his attorneys so at the end of the day, there's going to be a question that if there is something like this put over donald trump, a limited gag order, is that legal first of all? and second of all, is it something that could chill his rights and could be something that could cause him or the judge to want to put him in jail or restrict him even further if he doesn't follow it. >> yeah. huge questions. no precedent. uncharted territory for sure. katelyn polantz, keep us posted, thank you. >>> so the city of el paso is now grappling with about 2,000 migrant encounters at the border a day. officials warning this influx is not stopping any time soon. shelter capacity now running out in that city. >>> for the first time since the deadly wild fires ravaged hawaii, lahaina residents are returning to the burn zone to s

charges and then, at 5:30 pm today in washington d.c., federal judge tanya chutkan denied donald trump's request that she recuse herself from the case. donald trump's lawyers filed a motion requesting her recusal based on two statements that she made in court when sentencing to people convicted in the attack on the capital capitol on january 6th. those were two separate cases. in one case, judge chutkan said, during the sentencing, that the defendant showed, quote, a blind loyalty to one person who, by the, way remains free to this day. in another case, judge chutkan said, to the convicted defendant, you have made a very good point, one that has been made before, that the people who exhorted you and encouraged you and valet due to go and take action and to fight have not been charged. the trump lawyers filing said judge chutkan has, in connection with other cases, suggested that president trump should be prosecuted and imprisoned. such statements, made before this case began and without due process, are inherently disqualifying. in a written decision refusing to recuse herself from the c

and, interestingly, judge chutkan, judge tanya chutkan in washington, made the an argument that went even beyond the prosecutions argument. she said it was very much in the public interest for things to move more quickly. why? because she wanted the crimes that were committed on january six to be four s in the minds of the jury pool. so, her point was, the further that you move away from the incident, the less public attention and less public memory is retained from that period of time. that is something i think people really haven't necessarily talked about. we talked about the political context, we talked about the legal context. but chutkan raised the point about the historical context. and they need to deal with these issues in a timely manner, in the public interest. >> peter, the judge in georgia also had a very big ruling today, saying all of this is going to play out on national television. we will be able to see it, experience it, just like the january 6th hearings, which were hugely impactful. how important do you see this? >> but it's just hard to even imagine how absorbin

the public to really believe whatever the verdict is rendered at his trial, they're saying judge tanya chutkanrecuse herself. she's asking prosecutors to weigh in by thursday what that think. let's weigh in on what the trump team is thinking. they're previously pulling previous comments that the judge made, suggesting this means she's biased towards donald trump, the defendant in the january 6th interference case. here's part of what they point out. they point out comments she made at a sentencing hearing where she says the people who mob that capitol where they're in fealty and loyalty to one man, not to a constitution. it's a blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day. look, this is also related to the january 6th and also a civil case where donald trump wanted to block the house committee, on accuracying the white house records, while he was president of the united states. in that, she president presidents are not king and plaintiff is not president. and she's certainly sharp-tonged in a number of her decisions and number of her rulings, but this is going to be an

and he's gone after judges, including judge tanya chutkan, the presiding judge in the d.c. election interference case. judge chutkan was threatened by a texas woman who allegedly vowed to quote, kill anyone who went after trump. that's the conte for one pert telling "the new york times" that the indictments are now, quote, the most important current drivers of political violence. donald trump fomented deadly violence before, and now facing criminal trials and possible prison time, experts fear he is doing it again. we have a lot to talk about. joining me now is elie mystal, the justice correspondent for "the nation" and michelle goldberg, "new york times" columnist and msnbc contributor. how dangerous is this violent rhetoric and have we become anesthetized to it? >> very and yes. it's clear we have become anecessarytized to it. in times gone by, the former president suggesting the execution of the joints chief of staff would be major news. now it's kind of a blip. all of these things are kind of a blip. we know that the threat is real because we have seen a number of trump

tanya chutkan says she will hear the doj election fraud case in washington, d.c. it is a blow to trump and comes as he is lashing out at another judge's ruling in new york. even posting the judge's picture on social media and posting i have a deranged, trump hating judge, adding quote, nobody has been as unhinged as this guy. mar-a-lago is worth perhaps 1 o 0,000 time more. the judge didn't pretend to value anything. it was based on estimates he had been given by professionals. when it comes to the case of mar-a-lago, he had valued it at about $27 million. trump says it's worth 100 times more which would put it at about $1.7 billion. here's the thing. trump's supporter, the author, tried to bolster trump's claim on mar-a-lago today. he used zillow and he came up with a value, sorry he's the one that came up with value. trump's value was 2.7. $1 billion less than trump claims. that's a person trying to defend trump's claim. let's take a close look at another one of those properties. 40 wall street. one of the most treasured jewels in trump's crown. that property is

district judge tanya chutkan. in other legal news, the trial of trump's former trade adviser peter navarro has begun. he was indicted for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the house committee investigating the january 6 insurrection. in atlanta, georgia activists , 61 have been indicted on rico charges for their involvement in the protests against the construction of a massive $90 million police training complex known as cop city. georgia's republican attorney general christopher carr accuses the activists of violating the state's racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act, the indictment was handed out by the same fulton county grand jury panel that indicted president donald trump and 18 co-defendants on rico charges. many of the protesters have already been charged with domestic terrorism. the aclu blasted the indictment of the cop city protesters. aclu attorney aamra ahmad said -- "we are extremely concerned by this breathtakingly broad and unprecedented use of state terrorism, anti-racketeering a

but the same former president donald trump who is now trying to get judge tanya chutkan to recuse herselfll. i've been telling us since day one, as woman means business. she does not play. she is a serious as they come. she is the one who will end up making the decision. is donald trump serious with this request? is this just noise he is making to get people riled up? >> you know i think this is playing to the court of public opinion, not really do the court of law. judge chutkan has no reason to recuse herself. the emotion that the trump team just filed i would say is probably frivolous minus one. they have found two sentences essentially that judge chutkan othered during the course of sentencing. other folks who had attacked the capitol. and what she was doing was appropriately commented on the defenses. those defendants had offered. including, i was answering donald trump's call and he has not been held accountable. and she said, and i'm paraphrasing. you make a good point but that does not entitle you to a lesser sentence. and what is really interesting staff, i have read this motion

we await a decision from the judge presiding over the federal election interference case, judge tanya chutkan, on whether or not she will grant special counsel jack smith's request for a limiting gag order against donald trump. that could come tonight anytime. let's be clear about why we are seeing these orders and requests. donald trump has been furiously attacking everyone involved in the case against, him and even some shacks with filed that order, he's been attacking. them he and his allies have -- as election interference, he has repeatedly called jack smith drenched and a thug. his basically -- highly partisan, as well as very biased and unfair. and a few days, ago he suggested that his former top military adviser, general mark milley, who have spoken with prosecutors, should be executed for treasonous acts. let's just pause there for. moments his former military advisor, the chairman of the joint troops, he was suggesting that he should be executed for treason, -- many of these make them public, stripped threats of violence have spiked, there's a connection, the top prosecutors in the

trump's legal team argues that, quote, judge tanya chutkan's public statements unavoidably taint theseedings, regardless of outcome. trump's team sent transcripts of january 6th rioters from before trump was indicted in washington, d. c.. in one, judge chutkan notes the defendants crimes were caused by, quote, a blind loyalty to one person who remained free to this day. and in another, she acknowledges to the low level trump foot soldier, quote, the people who exhorted you and encouraged you and rallied you to go take action into fight have not been charged. the ex president's lawyers concluded by asking that the court consider this motion on an expedited basis and pending resolution withhold rulings on other pending motions. a bold move. a. scott bolden is a former prosecutor, white-collar criminal defense attorney. ankush khardori, former federal prosecutor, contributing writer for politico magazine. thank you, both, for joining me tonight. scott, trump's team wants this in an expedited fashion. of course they do. if there is no ruling until then. the judge gave the special counsel u

, glenn, because there is this news in the federal election interference, case the judge there tanya chutkan, had very clearly denied trump's request that she refused herself. what do you make of how she has handled this? and on the past you have said this woman does not mess around? >> i urge everybody to read judge chutkan's 20 page ruling. it really seeing. she kind of put in context all of the statements she made during sentencing hearings in other january 6th cases. she said that the law, she covers the landscape as far as the legal precedent importantly she says look, here is the standard for a judge to recuse, or remove herself from the case. more importantly, here are the cases that say it is important for a judge not to recuse from a case. because in the wrong hands, a nefarious litigate could use that for ill rather than for good. it really is a well reasoned opinion. it is bulletproof. and you know, now the defense is on the continuance game in that case as well. they just filed a motion seeking what they call a quote, brief extension of a deadline to file motions. steph, i filed

judge tanya chutkan, presiding over donald trump's federal election interference case, has rejected trump'suest for her to recuse herself in the case. judge chutkan's thorough rebuke that he should be prosecuted and imprisoned. it's trump's second defeat by a judge in just two days. yesterday's ruling by a new york judge, an attorney general latitia james civil lawsuit against trump undercut one of his most consequential myths, the lie that trump was in real life the character that he played on tv for 14 seasons on the apprentice. billionaire, successful real estate developer, a wise businessman. but the truth was, and still is, that the twice-impeached, four times indicted, civilly liable for sexual abuse former president has been none of those things. in his scathing, 35-page ruling, judge arthur n. gordon found that trump committed repeated acts of fraud for years as he massively overvalued his assets and net worth by billions of dollars in his financial statements. the judge said that trump's legal arguments defending those statements were based in a, quote, fantasy world. and noted the

he points to comments that judge tanya chutkan made in cases involving january 6 capitol rioters including this one from a sentencing hearing where she said that the people who mauled the capitol where there in loyalty to one man not to the constitution, a blind loyalty to one person who by the way remains free to this day. >> and another sentencing hearing, judge chutkan told the dendant that the people who exreported you and encouraged yoand rallied you to take acti a to fight have not been charged. adding the issue of who has or has not been charged is not before me. i don't have any influence on that. i have my opinion, but they are not relevant. >> and in response to trump's request, the judge asked for the point of view of the justice department prosecutors. and cnn legal analysts are also weighing in. >> there needs to be a reasonable appearance of bias or partiality. and i don't think that the statements that judge chutkan made in those other cases amount to that. she's had to assess the larger context of who is responsible here as part of sentencing including because those defenda