all throughout the state we had lads from our just tea party in the state the largest tax day tea party in the nation on april fifteenth. i voted we prevailed twenty nine t. parties organize dozens of tea parties mr chairman our grassroots efforts are engaged they're energized and they're ready to fight for their freedom and if you try to raise our taxes and clap on our liberties we're either going to. or make your life yes thank the members flatly deny the charge that the i.r.s. reuters the name given to fight cross roots organizations that are essentially corporate fronts it's nonsense that there is no such thing among our our people as astroturfing i'm here with four hundred fifty other people from north carolina and we're all individuals. to find out more about the recent curiously publicity shy brothers and their company koch industries i turn to a man who was cleaning investigating them for a number of years. diabetes from the environmental group greenpeace koch industries is the company nobody's ever heard of it's the second or first largest private company in this country we don

sleep and a tea party title away in the biggest one found for either party since nineteen forty eight the new one hundred twelfth congress will feature forty tea party members a lot of libertarian leaning individuals within the tea party movement especially when it comes to taxes and over regulations and up to this agenda that is taking us in the long direction it's a message of. limited prostitution government in principle you since you're going to have regulation in the control room at washington's become. there's a new day now the republicans took control of the house in november two thousand and ten very anti government agenda and fact one of their agenda items is to you know take out four government agencies like the part of education part of energy to say when you have politicians elected who want to shut down the government it sets a pretty interesting tone for the debate for me this newfound zeal for the koch's radical free market ideology is the real revolution of the tape party movement has nothing to do with people and y'all clustering waving flags will hold in protest of t

tea party patriots, the guys around the corner, one event coming around in minnesota, the tundra tea party. some may have a direct connection to a tea party organization in their districts. the other 60 are certainly influence, but they have no connection to it. everything unpleasant happening around the country is blamed on the tea party. >> there are tea party members that are not freshmen. >> if anyone is trying to personify it, it is michele bachmann. she is trying to be this amorphous group's leader going forward. this is going to the legitimacy of the president. there is a group of people in the party who are mad as hell and are not taking it anymore. that impacts how issues are dealt with here in washington, and at the state level, and it is one of the things that gives the democrats hope, and they had very little four months ago. >> it is not a third party. they are operating within the republican party. it is an important dynamic over the last election. these voices have returned, but these are republican candidates. i do not know if that will sustain itself in the future, bu

america all even people want to take your neighbor's mortgage you want to take advantage of chicago tea party in july i can kapleau so i want to show up to lake michigan out of the star. testifying to the cross roots nature of the uprising the vast majority of tea partiers a middle class americans with little or no experience in political organizing i'm just i'm on that was tired of seeing what was going on in my country and i decided to do something about it. the. day after rick scientology had his way and there were about twenty two people that got together on a conference call and we decided to have around the tea parties one week from that day we had fifty tea parties with thirty thousand people and attend the who thought it was something brewing and we have on april fifteenth eight hundred fifty plus tea parties across this country with one point two million people in it and. but if the tea parties began as a bipartisan are prizing against government waste they quickly morphed into an all out attack on president obama and his entire policy agenda i cannot write my children to brompton do

>> which tea party? >> the one at greenwich new jersey. >> no, afterwards. >> it was another tea party i didn't mention the dumped tea at greenwich new jersey which most people have never heard of and i never heard of until i did this book but it's along the delaware river in philadelphia. yes, ma'am? >> can you talk about what source is used for writing the book, or the new ones or the interpretations or? >> well, nothing is new and the sources are almost endless, the equivalent of three of those shelves over there. the diaries and writings of john adams, the writings of john adams are i think seven volumes and diaries of four volumes, the writings of sam adams and of thomas hutchinson, all of these people were prolific writers and kept their correspondence. so it's rich pool of research. yes, sir? >> all of this information be disclosed, why was a dormant for so long? >> let's not dormant, it's there in bits and pieces, and the problem with american history to -- i think i can generalize all american h

tea party and tea party movement were about. far from being patriots, those original tea partyers were mostly smugglers. some of them among the wealthiest men in america. merchants, among them, john hancock. yes, the john hancock who's bold significant on the declaration of independence left his name with the word signature. long before he put his john hancock on the declaration of independence, he was arguably among -- ash blue the wealthiest merchant banker in america on top of boston speak with the hill and commanding view of the massachusetts landscape and seaskip. far from espousing individual liberty, hancock and his fellow merchants in new england governed their businesses and community with economic ruthlessness that often left their competitors homeless and penniless. like today's tea party movement, the colonial tea party had almost nothing to do with tea. tea was nothing more than a social beverage for wealthy women, men seldom drank it, and it ranked below ale and rum, the beverages that american women consumed most.

what is the theme to the tea party what is the tea party about is it about just opposing this is opposing that opposing this or is there if agreed to be and that idea i submit to the idea i want to show you one today is the idea of the rights of man the basic issue of status of the destruction of the rights of those who produce in the united states and the tea parties of course are the battleground. we are today cousin or me we are the thin line between freedom and the status they want to create freedom is a wonderful thing to fight for it's time for us to join the army and that's something people. in nashville i met up with a collection of libertarian groups crossing the country pitching gorilla internet tactics for free market ideals over two hundred years ago guys a group of people just like you did something extraordinary ordinary people doing extraordinary things they were activists just like you i truly believe that they were activists then we are activists now make no distinction about it so what we do we become digital activists we are there by the media and we learn the media and

after the break tonight's daily take on the real story behind the boston tea party and how today's tea party would be tarred and feathered by our founding fathers. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think rather beautiful and one well. we never got the book shows the safe get ready because if you're going to their freedom. you know sometimes you see the story and the scene so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here sees some other part of it and realized everything you saw you don't i'm sorry there's a big picture. it's time for thought i'd say the good the bad and the very painfully ugly first up the good democratic congressman jared polis in an event yesterday paul is called on congress to end the prohibition against marijuana he said it is home state's experience with losing it was fortune's on the plan and said we see the benefits across the board as a job creation engine in colorado as sorely needed contributions to our revenue on the state level it's a critical and important time for advocacy on the national stage right on it's

by the tea party they won or lost because of the tea party going to the party yeah we're going to the tea party took over the republican party in the house are going to take over the really make they're able to take over a look at what they're doing in the house it's all a joke they're not equating jobs that you know every american wants the government doing right now i mean job the american people rising to the front is the american people want a simple about the economy as you are a big government shrinks the profits are going to expand you're saying no i'm sure you understand it and you want to say you are saying get out of control budget that's it get that under control i would imagine and they look at the current situation and they say look this government is doing zilch the house is doing zilch to create jobs all they're talking about is cutting and that's going to cut a million jobs around the country what's left of our economic you're quoting that fraudulent number. going to be what he's going to do you know where he wants all along see if you will see are you going to cut a l

greenpeace or you know you know what it is or whatever why do they ignore the public masters behind the tea party why is there never any mention of that when they when they talk to dick armey or they talk with representatives of the tea already in the american media. well i think if you'd asked me that same question maybe four months ago i would have said i don't know but what you're saying i think this year and especially since it's a party movement went from being just a protest movement to actually having a side in the way the country is run especially in. light houses around the country as well what you're saying in wisconsin for example a lot of paperwork i think are really starting to pay attention to people like the quote brothers and these groups who are plain deciding the direction of the tea party movement so originally i would have agreed with you but i think he's trying to i think there's a lot of attention now and the key is for progressives can they actually can make some of the people in the tea party movements of the truth behind what's going on i guess i guess to rephrase that an

by the tea party they won or lost because of the tea party going to the party yeah we're going to the tea party took over the republican party and it was going to take over the really make they're able to take over a look at what they're doing there how it's all a job regulating jobs that do every american wants the government doing right job you'd never be their eyes doing the business the american people want to simple about the economy as you are a big government strengths the prophecy played spin and you're saying no i'm sure you understand that and you want to say you don't want to get out of control budget that's it get that under control i'm a freshman at our center and they look at the current situation and they say look this government is doing and zilch the house has to exists to create jobs all they're talking about is cutting and that's going to cut a million jobs around the country what does of our economic you're quoting that fraudulent number of. communities going nowhere he wants all along see if you will see i don't because of a letter to follow yet rather he wrote i

coming out if you ever wonder what and who are the driving forces behind the tea party movement i'll talk to the director of a documentary that is uncover the truth behind the money that's funded the so-called grassroots movement. let's not forget that we had an apartheid museum right here in the. i think. one well. whenever the government says if it can feel safe get ready because you get their freedom. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big. yesterday we talked about how the tea party is using grille activism to silence progressive voices on the internet what we discovered was the most of those activism isn't springing up from the grassroots but instead being organized and paid for by super wealthy millionaires and billionaires today we're going to talk about how progressives are fighting back with their own forms of rule activism they go to this documentary jockey old called astro turf wars astr

how much power does the tea party have and the threat of tea party wrath have in this rticular cycle of tea party drama on capitol hill? >> i'm not sure they control this right now. what you're seeing is a sort of sliding scale here. you have the tea party people who are out rallying today and there weren't really very many of them out there. and you had michele bachmann and steve king from iowa playing to them. now, that's the iowa wing, which really refers to the 2012 presidential campaign. that's michele bachmann already campaigning for caucus votes in iowa in 2012. then you have jim demint who's from south carolina, another key presidential primary state, who's also banging his fist on the table saying you've got to get the 61 billion. meanwhile, the presidential candidates are for the most part staying silent. but i don't know how much pressure demint and bachmann really have on john boehner or even eric cantor in the end. boehner's going to cut the deal. eric cantor's going to squawk but he's probably going to go along with it in the end even as he tells the tea party people th

no moment in tea party history could be more impoanth toy'ray the cit. this is the moment for the tea rttooar, tsh i strength, to show the depth and permanence of its commitment to change, to budget cutting, to killing planned parenthood and national broadcasting and every other socialist thing like med sxair social security that crowd who showed up today to witness history and to make history at around 100 people. here's some wt osbre 100 heard. >> take off your lace panties. stop being noodlebacks. take a strong, bold, unwavering stand for and with the american people. our republic depends on you. >> and if liberals in the senate small down payment on fiscal discipline and reform, i say shut it down. >> nwonder they're so afid of you. they're afraid of you because you're powerful. government. we won't change our principles. we're going to say no to another de cli iree. wee t gointhe. >> joining me now, msnbc contributor dave weigel, >> dave, you were there. your official crowd estimate, please. and what does it tell us about the momentum and power of th

of the republicans budget proposal because to medicare medicaid and social security how does the tea party feel about those a look no farther than a new york times c.b.s. news poll conducted last year but asked tea partiers are the benefits from government programs such as social security and medicare were the costs of those programs nearly two thirds sixty two percent of the tea partiers said yes these big government socialist programs are worth it tea partiers on top of that an n.b.c. news wall street journal poll found similar sentiments toward entitlement programs as the analysis read in the poll americans across all age groups and ideology said by and large margins said by large margins it was unacceptable to make significant cuts in entitlement programs in order to reduce the federal deficit even tea party supporters by a nearly two to one margin declared significant cuts to social security on acceptable. that's a two to one margin against paul ryan's republican budget cuts in the tea party so the question has to be asked right now as the average tea partiers are waking up and realiz

it bothers me when i hear some on the other side of the aisle or in the tea party say we should shut lying target for cuts should stay around the level described by the vice president and that both parties are working off of. this makes complete sense. since $33 billion is the mid point between the two sides. and it's what republicans originally wanted in february before the tea party forced them to go higher. third, the makeup of the cuts as i suggested a few weeks ago should not be only from domestic, discretionary spending. you cannot solve our deficit problem by going after only 12% of the budget. mandatory spending cuts must be part of the package. the higher the package goes, the more the proportion should be tilted in favor of mandatory, rather than discretionary spending. and four, the most extreme of the riders cannot be included. there are some riders that we can probably agree on. but the epa measure is not one of them. neither is planned parenthood. or the other extreme riders that have been so controversial. i believe we can settle on a few measures that both sides think

despite the fact that last week's tea party gathering here in d.c. that garnered a few dozen people it's picked up on loads of different media outlets boxset of their yesterday's protest with far more people receive no mainstream news coverage whatsoever why is that with more on this plus the latest on what's going on with the koch brother lapdogs scott walker in wisconsin i'm joined by reporter and blogger at think progress alex sites well alex welcome to the program thank so much from the back thank you great to have you there koch protests yesterday what kind of press was on hand and how come we didn't see anything about this while i was on hand but aside from that i saw a few foreign press members and a few other progressive reporters i think i think i counted total of three reporters i mean i didn't see every one that's not a complete representative sample but you know we there are two thousand people out there that's according to an essay us meant two thousand and eight hundred some tea partiers a week earlier yeah the network news the estimate

tea party. they happen to be people -- who have it in their name. when you get down to the level of a i was reporting a few months ago on the tea party in maine, the question of whether olympia snowe was going to get a tea party challenge. i call one guy who has tea party on his blog, and it can get confusing. i take my cue from members of congress themselves. if they identify themselves as a said the party -- as a sympathizer of the tea party, i ask, what kind of politician is this? i will leave it at that. i do not know what to make about polls about people who i do not who they are. >> an important point, we talked about the tea party don't knowing what is this. there are hundreds of organizations. somebody told me a thousand or more organizations that call themselves the party organizations. the party patriots, tea party buddies, tea party guys run according. there will be an event taking place in minnesota, this will be the -- tea party. in the congress itself, among the 80-plus freshman me

action from your home if you go to the fox station the tea party revolution is probably run right by you. we have a map to show you just how widespread these are fees are people who demand to be heard in some cases like where their trip. actually is they don't party. but for commuters. thinking about it by several manufactory i can point to every one of good organization and give you specific examples already though i didn't attack you or disingenuous or call me names right ok they don't tell the whole story they tell one side story that we see that now we're speaking out but if there's one person at

the tea party patriots, tea party buddies, tea party guys around the corner. an event that's going to be taking place in the next couple of weeks in minnesota. this will be the tundra tea party. [laughter] >> so there's lots of tea party folks around. in the congress itself, among the 80-plus freshmen members there's 10 at the very most 20 that you can look into their background and say, yeah, they've got some direct connection to a tea party organization in their district. the other 60-plus, you know, are certainly influenced by grassroots activity but they have no connection to it. but everything unpleasant happening around the country is blamed on the tea party and a lot of it is at the state level and not the federal level and that's probably why the image of the tea party has gone somewhat downhill since the last election. >> and i also note that there are tea party members who are not freshmen. also. a lot of the votes that defected were not freshmen -- >> well, i think if anybody is trying to per sonfy michele bachmann. but it has been helpful to the de

the the tea party patriots, the tea party buddies.there is an event that will be taking place in a couple of weeks. it is the tundra tea party. in the congress itself, among the 18 freshmen members, there are maybe 10 or 20 -- among the 80 freshmen members of congress, there are maybe 10 or 20 who plan to beat tea party members. everybody -- everything on pleasant happening around the country is blamed on the tea party. that is why the image of the tea party has gone downhill since the last election. >> there are tea party members who are not freshmen. >> is anybody who is tried to personify it, it is michele bachmann. she is tied to be this a amorphous group's leader. it has been helpful to the democrats. the republican party has become rather radical in many ways. 43% of identified republicans do not believe obama was born in this country. that is going to be legitimacy of the president. there is a group of people in the party who are mad as and not taking it anymore. -- mad as hell and not taking it anymore. it affects how issues a

racist sexist anti-gay tea party patriots go away believe it or not that was at a tea party rally in boston which was the rupp disrupted by public sector union members who decided to stand in front of the podium block the speakers and chant offensive slogans for the entire two hour rally as a tea party member myself sometimes disturbed by fellow tea partiers worship of police forces who are in force of of the policies that we protest but perhaps what happened in boston this weekend might be a bit revealing of the true nature of our law enforcement system and what thoughts the cops themselves can be in this case it was the boston police also public sector union members who stood in front of their fellow union members to protect them while violating the rights of the organizers of a legal permeated rally this relatively in consequential a vain event paints a pretty good picture of where we are as a country to stop and consider for a second who pays the salaries of the union members both the cops and the disrupters and can probably people more like the ones supporting the tea party the

but it comes as a second poll in two days shows the tea party steadily losing some popularity in the middle of the electorate, is that party ending? >>> also, let's face it, in one week donald trump has transformed himself into the nation's leading birther, which he doesn't like that term, by the way. he's jumping into a cesspool where a lot of republicans have been lurking. we'll ask strategists what the party can do to climb out of that mess and what democrats do if they want to to try to exploit that madness. >>> and here, one right out of the james bond file. while it's true there are no u.s. ground troops in libya, "the new york times" and a lot of news outlets are reporting that the cia has placed clandestine operatives inside the country. we'll talk to a former cia officer about just what they're trying to do in libya, how they're tryi to do it and whether they can succeed. >>> and finally, which member of congress fears the fighting in libya could spread to, wait for? think about that for a moment. and then think about this. the congressman sits on the house foreign affairs co

movement basically and it's quite remarkable right because the tea party folks who follow it seems to be arguing in protesting and demonstrating against their own interests tell us about what is happening in wisconsin and the koch brothers role there what is their role in governor walker's agenda how does a brothers benefit from what he is pushing before we go to that is probably quite it is an important point that you mentioned before which is people going against their own interests because i mean the big thing here is that if you say what i just say to it also i will no one's funding may i don't see any billionaires behind me what it is it's a kind of a two step crisis it's by sickly a propaganda campaign through a series of front groups funded by the car x. corporate players and other wealthy billionaires has been named such as freedom works and americans for prosperity. have basically car mean and set the talking points and i would organize a lot of these tea party rallies so that's the way it's worked and if you look at what's happened in wisconsin it's a lot of the science bein

is this going to be an example of the tea party holding a news ck?und its own party's ne >> in 2010, republicans were jubilant. be smart strategists said that this could be a potential problem. a lot of these got people -- a lot of these people got elected. this is one where they don't. the establishment in the party wants to get as much as they can and get the best compromise they can. if you do that, you never know what will happen. bill clinton won that fight with newt gingrich. the tea party says it is about principles, standing up for what we believe in. the root of what we are seeing right now, the seeds were planted during the election with so many people lighting with the tea party. thes: let's go inside budget battle. i will let you take them one at a time with regard to winners and losers. first republicans, the democrats, then the president. first, the republicans. >> there is a nervousness for being blamed for shutting down the government. they are caught between that nervousness in satisfying their base. the base once more cuts and the g

this with the cause and are going to face coming after this trip down is do we stay true to the tea party which is the increasingly extreme wing of their party looking at or members of the house on or do we try to serve the americans who were elected to serve and so if they want to count out of the tea party which they're more than welcome to do they're going to go with a shutdown which tea party your support but that americans don't want to know how good your party is in some abstract thing americans voted tea party aligned with members of congress and for office eighty seven freshmen republicans in the house based on the tea party the tea party is running is driving the train because they drove the frame last november i agree with what is driving the train them is that you have mainstream republicans that are fighting with those tea party and i judge and a detriment the reason that the reason the g.o.p. numbers have fallen in the house since the election is because we face a one point six five trillion dollar deficit and they're cutting sixty six billion it's a joke and the remember a c

and the democrats are letting the tea party call the shots in my opinion. take a good look at today's tea party rally. president obama, senate democrats, and john boehner. they are letting this small group of radical people set a policy for america. a handful of fox news loving americans have got more power than what? than 100,000 people who are fighting for their rights in madison, wisconsin? the president of course arguably never went to bat for these middle class folks because it would have politicized the whole thing and i said in previous commentaries i'm sick of that garbage. it is about politics. and right now they're out politicking us. that's how i feel as a liberal. look, senate democrats have to realize one thing. you can't pin this on president obama. you guys got elected, too. you have the majority. the senate democrats need to stand up and say, you know what? you gave us a record number of filibusters. you've said no to absolutely everything. we gave you the bush tax cuts. we're not going to take these draconian cuts. shut down the government.

an interesting challenge as a reporter, to figure out, you want the tea party. duke, who do you talk to? there are national t party groups, but you cannot claim that they are representative of the tea party. they have to be people -- who have it in their name. i was reporting a few months ago on the tea party in maine. i was interested at all on whether olympia snowe would get 80 party challenge. she has not. i call one person who has tea party on his blood. i ask about one person and they said that that is not really a tea party person. if they identify themselves as a sympathizer to the tea party movement, i say, what kind of a politician is this? and this is getting too metaphysical about politics. i will leave it at that. i do not know about polls. >> janet makes an important instructional point. there are literally hundreds of organizations -- i am not making that up. someone told me about thousand more they call themselves tea party organizations. t party patriots, the guys around the corner, one event coming around and minnesota, that hundred tea party. --

"thank you, tea party members, for putting me in this box." he ended up going in there asking for a lot, and got more than halfway to where he wanted to go. >> i wrote on friday afternoon, bob, after the first republican conference meeting about 4:00 in the afternoon, many of the freshmen said "mr. speaker go cut us a deal. you have our... we have your back. whatever you come back and tell us is the deal we will accept." sight unseen, whatever you bring back, i trust. i personally will support." it was a key moment for speaker boehner because he was then able to say, all right, i have a deal and it can hold. >> schieffer: do you think, nancy, there is some talk that they will take this ryan plan, the paul ryan plan, which calls for cutting $6 trillion out of the budget over the next ten years, and really does overhaul medicare and medicaid. there are some very serious changes in there. some on the republican side are talking about just attaching that to the debt limit bill and having a vote on that. do you think that's what's going to happen?

are you afraid of the tea party? >> no, i think they're an important part of the republican coalition. but our democratic friends should be afraid of the public. how did you lose the house in such overwhelming numbers? how did you lose so many senate seats? it was about spending, the size and scope of government, rejection of "obama care." so our friends in the house, speaker boehner, who replaced speaker pelosi, is doing what the american people want in the last election-- trying to reduce the size and scope of the government, which is a goal shared by the tea party. but you can't account for the last election based on a narrow view of america. americans as a whole are very upset about the size and scope of the federal government. we're trying to reduce spending, and our democratic friends are hanging on to old ideas that every time you try to reduce spending, you're being cruel and mean. what's cruel and mean is to pass this debt on to future generations. >> schieffer: senator, let me ask the same question i asked

and talk with talk to the director of the billionaire's tea party a film they'll be airing soon on our c thanks for coming on the kaiser report thank you very much all right doug ulman who are the billionaires behind the tea party and what do they want my film primarily looks a billion it has the koch brothers charles and i have a card they have primarily an oil refining conglomerates for the company koch industries that a third and fourth richest people in america now and big companies considered the second largest private company in the country so they very very wealthy people what they want is by sickly so you create a privatized america they what they call free market capitalist they hardly ideological and they basically try to get government out of the white so people like them can can pretty much do business in any way they truths all right so they want to do a takeover of america and in doing this by creating this tea party movement basically and it's quite remarkable right because the tea party folks who follow it seems to be arguing in protesting and demonstrating against thei

at all. >> gary hosted the tea party gathering on the party's second anniversary. >> whether it's in the democrat party, any kind of racist act towards our president or anybody else? it isn't evil? >> e-mail went to an unknown number. the cbs reporter who contacted marilyn said davenport told us she sent e-mail as a joke and blamed the news media for blowing it out of proportion. now the chairman is asking daven fort to step down. >> well, the e-mail is very contrary to the message we want to send to the voters. ethnic outreach and building the party and we can't have people that represent the party that are elected officials out making racist statements against people. whether they are the president of the united states or anybody else. >> although she defends her e- mail, orange county republicans are responding quickly. chairman is not only asking davenport to resign, but calling for an ethics investigation. >> don, thank you very much. >>> well that tea party event was one of many around the country today marking the second anniversary of the tea party's tax day rally. the place

he participated in a recent event in des moines and made a big impression on tea party people the serbs a lot of red meat for that wing of the party , very good communicator . mr. daniels has no presence here. the john bolton has been here a couple times, but his main biggest foreign-policy. i think that's one of the reasons why he just wants to come out and get some of the