. >> it happened on thanksgiving. two teenagers missing. >> i just buried my head into my hands and i started to cry. >> where they were and what thet did would launch a terrifying case. >> why did this have to happen here? >> with a deadly end. >> nobody's leaving until we figure out what happened. >> a man at home, alone and afraid. m what would you do if you felt id danger?if >> they were really attacking y his home. >> you have a right to protect your home and to protect yourself. >> he planned, he prepared and was determined to kill. >> the most chilling detail of all, what you'll hear on tape. >> i'm still shaking. >> hello and welcome to "dateline." growing up, cousins nick brady and hailey kifer were close. nick loved to joke and haley loved to laugh. the teenagers were together that cold november day when tragedy a struck. the horrible incident was all there for police to hear on a perfectlyo clear recording. so why was what happened so unclear? a mystery that would divide a community and spark a national deb

i can talk about thanksgiving.i just think it's interesting this is the first year in a while but we haven't heard how thanksgiving is offensive. therefore the worst thing someone might say its pilgrims were murdered and if you celebrate your a murder and now you celebrate, you are not just celebrating murderers you are at least guilty of involuntary manslaughter of a whole nation full of grandmothers. i miss the good old days of not having the real problem. i miss the good old days of you just get called to celebrate murderers rather than getting called a murderer. things have changed very greg: i don't think it was the pilgrims that were murdered though. i'll have to look back. >> i think that is quite differently. greg: i think it did. charlie? >> i didn't say they were murdered. >> actually i do have lots of very strange dreams and by the way i also have an opinion about absolutely everything you just run up to first of all thanksgiving, thanksgiving i'm totally in favor of that. that is the best thing about 20

we screwed up thanksgiving anyway.key casserole, gluten-free stuffing and cheesecake frosted and the colors of the flag. >> tucker: that sounds delicious. you've got to wonder if this isn't some sort of elaborate gag that gavin newsom has pulled off creative blood see what we can make them do. to tell them to wear a mask between bites, almost like simon says as it becomes more ludicrous. is there a point at which they will stop and people rebel? >> gavin newsom won't sleep in till every citizen, every taxpayer, sets sail for nashville or texas. there is only the homeless to break the bread with. that's going to be at next year. >> tucker: i wonder if these restrictionsns applied to the homeless. they seem curiously immune from government regulation. >> they don't do a lot of complying, that's part of the unwritten youth dose sleeping on a sidewalk and into trash cans. you are not a big comply her, not a big rule follower. everyone in california should invite every friend, have a turkey, and if there's a knock on the do

fauci, such a simple sentence about thanksgiving, may be what cuts through. let's listen so what dr. fauci said. >> it is unfortunately, because that's such a sacred part of american tradition, the family gathering around thanksgiving, but that is a risk. you may have to bite the bullet and sacrifice that social gathering, unless you're pretty certain that the people that you're dealing with are not infected. >> he's being somewhat delicate, dr. khan, probably more delicate than he needs to be at this point, but what do americans need to know about thanksgiving at this point. the idea of getting together in a house around a table with a group of even your family when some of them are almost definitely in that vulnerable age group? >> again, this coronavirus is still an infectious disease. it spreads from person to person, and the more people you put together, the more likely you are to have people get infected and the more likely you are to create these super spreader events which is spreading this outbreak across america. it's about 20% of events that's spre

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don't do thanksgiving. it's not a warning that most people want to hear, but this morning dr. anthony fauci is making it clear thanksgiving gatherings will be dangerous. >> that is a risk. you may have to bite the bullet and sacrifice that social gathering. >> so we can't have thanksgiving this year because of the quickly deteriorating situation around the country. five states seeing more hospitalizations than at any point during this pandemic. nearly 60,000 new coronavirus cases were reported overnight, that's the highest daily total in the u.s. since early august. 985 deaths also reported, each one matters. you can look at the map, all the orange and red, that's the rising cases across the country. so remember, dr. fauci says we really can't have a big thanksgiving this year, but president trump is still holding giant rallies. this is des moines, iowa, the coronavirus task force, the white house coronavirus task force calls des moines a yellow zone meaning no gatherings of more than 25 people. this rally is, you know, much closer to 2,500 and most of the people there are unm

. >> stahl: what about thanksgiving? should people feel safe to get together with their family? with their grandparents? with their aunts and uncles? >> vice president pence: thanksgiving is one of my favorite holidays. >> stahl: me too. >> vice president pence: and-- and i'm looking forward to it with our family. >> stahl: with a big-- with extended? >> vice president pence: i think that's a decision every american family can make based on the circumstances in their community, the vulnerability of particular family members. now, one of the things we apprehended early on is that seniors, particularly those with serious underlying health conditions, are the most at- risk-- for a serious outcome if they contract the coronavirus. and so w-- families may make a decision that-- that certain elderly family members might take a pass but i think the difference between president trump and me and some of the public voices in this debate over the last year has been we

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no big thanksgiving gathering. these aren't rules, be clear of that. this is just the guidance here. bottom line, you got to make your own decision. by now, most of us know our senior citizens are the most vulnerable in all this. but don't be fooled here. teenagers and adults are getting hit hard. the latest data from the cdc and npr, there is an increase of cases, covid cases, in 39 states. look at this map, not california and the west coast, but you can see almost everywhere else in red, that's an increase in cases. i chatted with our nbc national medical contributor about thanksgiving. >> unfortunately the highest risk is what we traditionally do is bringing our big families together, and cdc director actually recently said that these gatherings, household gatherings, small gatherings are actually becoming a source of a lot of new infections. and so this is the year potentially that we keep it small and make up for it hopefully next year. >> i think a big concern, whether it's health regarding covid or just mental health about grandparents, grandpar

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starting after easter, and i was going for thanksgiving.lebrating it with his family, his grandchildren and that will be his "one more thing" on black friday. you're not going to keep families apart from each other. i get it but enough. i understand cases are rising. two reasons. one, 700,000 a month, we just now are over a million a month and also people are going back to work, they are going about their lives, you're going to see the cases go up at the deaths have remained below 1,000 daily deaths since august and that's a good thing with a vaccine around the corner. >> emily: dana, greg mentioned volunteering. i'm worried about the underserved communities that usually can look forward to this swell of help and assistance on thanksgiving, is this going to be detrimental for those guys? >> dana: i'm not thinking too far ahead about thanksgiving because i was hoping that we would have one of those rapid tests available by thanksgiving that would be affordable that everybody in the family could take in the morning and everybody could feel ve

with thanksgiving and a hanukkah and christmas that will be very different this year as you're making holiday plans these guidelines from the centers for disease control are pretty common sense stuff outdoor gatherings are safer than indoors but in much of the usa it's too cold outdoors so these other factors are all the more important the less time spent together the less we can infect each other and this year more isn't merrier dr felt she and others are asking that we don't travel because cove it could be hitchhiking or waiting at your destination and various states require extended quarantine for visitors unless you get a negative test before hand so check and masks social distancing and hand washing never take a holiday if you've tested positive or you're in some kind of a higher risk group or if you have flu like symptoms sit tight and face time your friends so that you can see them next year and if your home is the holiday destination what's host to do let's ask the author of beverly hills manners golden rules from the world's most glamorous zip code and etiquette adviser to th

spend thanksgiving with their family? yeah. it's a lot of steps to go through. and if you're living in an area where you have a lot of viral dynamics, you might be exposed in the interim. so it's possible. it's going to take a lot of work this year in order to make it happen. if you can do it outside, if you live in a warmer weather state, great. if you live somewhere cooler and can really open up windows and allow a lot of ventilation. again, visualizing this virus like clouds of smoke, wafting that smoke away, making it a lot less likely for people to become infected. yeah, it's possible. but we could have been in a very different position right now what had we down testing and brought the viral loads way down in the country. >> sorry to interrupt, but it's not like the constant testing at the white house prevented an outbreak. >> right, it doesn't prevent the outbreak. but in a situation like this, if you can be really diligent about it, like they did with the nba, they tested people 14 days before they came into the b

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>>thanksgiving holiday. and how family gatherings may contribute to the spread of covid washington correspondent morgan wright spoke with doctor anthony fauci about his message to families this year as they start to plan or rethink the thanksgiving holiday. >>we're in a position that's really precarious doctor anthony fauci the nation's top infectious disease expert says the coronavirus isn't letting up the average per week is about 70,000 cases per day that is extraordinarily high bouncing says the outbreak is headed in the wrong direction and says with the thanksgiving holiday around the corner fmilies must assess the risks of gathering this year, i'm 79 years old. i mean i feel less worried about myself with my daughters feel. >>that they don't want to put their daddy at risk doctor fauci says he'll be joining his family virtually this thanksgiving. >>but urges americans to do gather in person to wear a mask and open windows to increase ventilation you don't want to be the person. you know the grinch that

so what is your advice about thanksgiving? breaking news tonight, a legendary college football coach tests positive. 20 days to go: the president holds a huge rally in iowa, a state he won easily by 10 points in 2016, but is now tied with joe biden. the group president trump is begging for support. >> suburban women, will you please like me? >> o'donnell: and the record nearly 15-million votes already cast. >> i think the lines are going to be maybe even worse on november 3. >> o'donnell: the showdown tonight between president ett, as choice for the supreme court, amy coney barrett, and the democratic nominee for vice president, kamala harris. only on cbs news: breonna taylor's boyfriend, kenneth walker, tells gayle king about the night his girlfriend was shot and killed by louisville police. >> she screamed. like, i was holding her hand. >> reporter: you were holding her hand? >> yeah, like, while this was happening, pulling her down to the ground. >> o'donnell: and the american astronaut who spent her 42nd birthday blasting

ranney, should we cancel thanksgiving? >> thanksgiving is a really tough one.m going to be doing a zoom thanksgiving with my parents. >> olga, what's your plan? >> i don't know. i don't have a plan for thanksgiving yet. it is really, really challenging. i would say, if you can move it outside, if you can wear masks, you know, keep it to people under 60, although the whole point of thanksgiving is often to have people over 60 there. you know, one of the researchers i talked to for this said that part of deciding what -- where you're going to spend your kind of risk for covid is how important it is to you. if thanksgiving is a really important holiday to you, maybe take extra precautions, get tested, quarantine ahead of time, and maybe you can do something small. but it's going to depend on the person. >> dr. ranney, i want to give people tools to be able to walk away this zbresegment with. must you now data points in your town, what the positivity rate is in your town before you can make any of these decisions? >> that's definitely a great idea, but i also recog

what's the point of thanksgiving without shouting? even have things giving without shouting? has adam corolla ever done it? the author of the book "on your emotional support animal: navigating are all woke, no joke culture." adam, thanks so much for joining us. would you be capable of having a thanksgiving dinner without shouting? >> no. i would not, as a matter of fact. that's the only way i communicate with family members. i'm really like a quarterback calling omaha and audibles and then i move my foot and then my son picks up the gravy and he goes in motion. >> tucker: [laughs] i want to eat with you! did you ever think -- and this is not an effort to dismiss the seriousness of the pandemic, but did you ever think that a state would be in the business of telling you how to eat dinner? >> well, if it was going to be any state, it would be california and by the way, this sounds miserable. i mean, nothing says thanksgiving like sitting on a folding chair in your driveway and having a nurse fire mashed potatoes at you with a t-shirt ca

revealing new announcement from melania trump, and a dire new warning about coronavirus spreading at thanksgiving. tonight, the first lady says her son, barron, did have the virus at the same time that she and the president were infected, but that the 14-year-old has now tested negative. and she's opening up about what she calls a roller coaster of symptoms, even as her husband has declared himself cured and immune from the virus. tonight, he's holding another campaign rally in iowa, expecting as many as 10,000 supporters to pack into an airport hangar there, even though cases of coronavirus in iowa are exploding. the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, says holding that event is risky. and in a new interview with us tonight, he's also warning about what he sees as another danger: family gatherings, including upcoming holidays. we'll have all that in just a moment, and our team of correspondents is standing by with a lot of new reporting tonight. cbs' weijia jiang is going to lead off our coverage tonight from the white house. good evening, weijia. >> reporter: good evening

. >> college students going on thanksgiving break, will they be able to take a coronavirus test before traveling back home? the i team digs into this issue. that story tonight as part of >>> the family of oscar grant says the alameda alameda alameda attorney -- grant was shot and killed by former bart officer as you may recall on new year's day in that same year, 2009. but an indepen debt incide pepen show a former officer was the primary aggressor hitting grant in the head and kneeling on his neck. the d.a. nancy o'malley announced she was reopening the investigation into grant's killing earlier this month. grant's family is demanding a fresh look at the officer's role in his death. while the d.a.'s office has not publicly said anything, the family remains hopeful. >> we're consciously optimistic. we're clear on nay sayer statements concerning why this case was reopened. >> a timeline is not clear for the investigation as well as when or if charges will be filed against the officer. >>> security cameras have become valuable tools to identify threats of violence and there is a developm

fauci said thanksgiving don't do it.n you tell our viewers about what they should be thinking about doing as thanksgiving approaches? >> i would say listen to people like dr. fauci. and listen to the health professionals. don't listen to people like the jared kushner. who what did he say? something about -- >> hold on. the doctors? let me play it. let's play it. jared kushner has thoughts on the way you treat covid and doctors. >> the last thing was kind of doing the guidelines which was interesting. that in my mind was almost like trump getting the country back from the doctors. in the sense that what he now did was he will -- >> he took the country back from doctors. like you. >> i think that's great news. what i told my patients this morning. mr. smith great news your open heart surgery is performed by mr. trump. great news. your cancer will be treated by jared kushner. neither of them have medical training whatsoever. sometimes sarcasm takes over. in reality let's be honest. what's so egregious about that is it's und

you have thanksgiving coming up people are talking certainly about what to do. how many people to get together with outside of your family. governor newsom is being criticized by some for his guidelines for thanksgiving, what is your recommendation for how people can sort of balance the issues here. >>yeah, it really is a new world you know what i consider myself at least as much of an expert as probably anyone. even those of us are you know wrestling with what do we you know with our you know i have dren we're friends and obviously we'd love to get together but how do you do it in a relatively safe way again are not giving you any official guidance but limiting the number of people in your house it's hard to do to wear face coverings yes, certainly when you're eating and drinking trying to maintain a minimum social distance is a good idea and get a few folks have the resources to do it. one thing think people should consider would be if you're having a overnight guests particularly if you consider actually having everyone tested but saying within 72 hours is sh

juan, how do you pull the wish bone on a virtual thanksgiving?t virtually. i mean, to me, this is pretty sad. i actually thought might be a higher number of four out of six. when you get together have you got young people and older people who clearly are more vulnerable to this disease. so you have got to be careful. but, boy, it's just sad. >> greg: it's sad because have you grandparents that want to see their grandkids. >> juan: yeah. >> greg: it makes feuding in-laws relieved. >> katie: i don't want to get family feuds wearing mask not wearing mask who is in charge. they are coming out with rapid texts next year and maybe by christmas time we will all be able to take the test and feel more comfortable about having thanksgiving dinner together. >> jesse: we will still be counting votes on thanksgiving, gutfeld. i will have my mom with zoom over ballot harvesting. >> dana: we're going to be having thanksgiving dinner in the green room. >> greg: that is so true. i'm scared. i'm worried. >> dana: we will call you mom. >> greg: one more thing up ne

anthony fauci warning all americans what not to do on thanksgiving and overseas a major european city under curfew but this morning a new call from president trump to re-open schools. what's behind his new push. >>> the race for the white house takes a new turn with dueling town halls tonight on prime-time tv. this morning the surprising new poll results from red state georgia and the biden campaign reveals how much money it raised last month. >>> it's happened again. another person flying with a jetpack high above one of the nation's busiest airports posing a danger to passenger jets. the urgent new plea from the fbi. >>> plus, caught on camera, two paragliders getting a visit from a vulture. >>> emergency on the ice when the zamboni catches fire. >>> and music's big night, the billboard music awards. ♪ the big stars, the big winners and one very powerful performance. >>> good thursday morning, everyone. i'm mona kosar abdi. >> i'm will reeve. kenneth is off. we begin with a new prediction about the coronavirus. >> researchers are predicting a significant increase in new cases over t

it will be worse come thanksgiving time. the other is that if the small gatherings, indoors with family and friends, is driving the surge. as dr. collins was saying, there's a high level of asymptomatic spread. i'm sure that none of us want to be infecting those we love. so i would say lets celebrate outdoors. not indoors this holiday. if you really want to get together indoors, you should quarantine -- everybody should quarantine themselves for 14 days and get tested, which would substantially reduce the risk. but that's something that is not really practical for many people. so i think we will have a lot of virtual celebrations this year recognizing that this is not forever but we need to get through this winter safely. >> got to be safe. absolutely. what do you recommend for families, doctor, with college-aged students that have been away at school. can they safely travel home this holiday season? >> so, it depends on the length of stay. if it's going to be four or five days that they're coming back, i would say it's prob

got to be vigilant at thanksgiving. >> frankly, i would rather do a zoom thanksgiving with people that love than expose them to something that might kill them. >> some new info about this deadly virus, immunity after infection last month. good news for the vaccine hunt. and good news if you're blood type o. you might be at less risk of infection or severe illness according to two new studies. meanwhile, some white house advisers reportedly pushing a herd immunity strategy, protect the elderly but let the virus spread amongst the young. the aim, effectively immunize enough people to slow the spread. >> i'm extremely concerned that the president is being advised by people who speak of herd immunity. herd immunity is another word for mass murder. >> reporter: in new york, they're playing life or death whack a mole right now. a sweet 16 on long island just spawned nearly 40 cases. and in the city -- >> we are threatened with a full-blown second wave in new york city. if that happens, the entire city would have to go back to the restrictions we knew in march and april. >> here's another har

in nashville continue to raise concerns, top doctors say smaller, intimate gatherings ahead of thanksgiving are also fueling the spike. >> people think if i don't have any symptoms and my friend or family member doesn't have any symptoms it is safe to get together in small groups that's the biggest source of infections we're seeing >> reporter: amid the race to find a vaccine, today pfize announcing it will include volunteers as young as 12 years old in its phase three trials now under way. it comes as covi continues to sideline the nfl forcing the league to reschedule eight games. there is some good news, even in hard hit states like california while more americans are getting sick and some will need to be hospitalized the death rate in many regions is actually slowing. the staggering stats a painful reminder for angelina who lost her father richard a beloved little league umpire in the spring after a two-week battle with covid. >> it's a senseless loss he is at peace wherever he is, and he's happy and we miss him. >> reporter: tonight, the families and faces behind the numbers as many fea

the faa could green light the plane by thanksgiving three weeks ago, the faa chief himself test flew the redesigned max. >> i liked what i saw so it responded well. >> reporter: no plane in history has ever been grounded as long as the 737-max getting these planes flying again will not happen overnight southwest has the most grounded maxes, 34 united has 14. american has 24. now american says it is preparing to fly a single max flight daily from december 29th through january 4th between miami and new york customers will be told in advance they're booked on a max and can rebook if they're not comfortable. most airlines suggest lit take a month o longer to prepare each plane for flight the faa expected to require simulator training for pilots. >> question i get asked frequently is, is it safe would you fly on it yes and yes. i would gladly put my family on the airplane. >> reporter: the max's return comes as airline passengers are returning. more than a million passed through tsa checkpoints on sunday. the most since the pandemic grounded passengers last spring tom costello, nbc news,

could be an estimated 7 million more packages than shipping companies are able to handle between thanksgiving and christmas alone. shipping giants have already seen holiday level volume for most of the year. >> this will be an unprecedented peak season. >> reporter: fedex, which has already hired 70,000 new workers, predicts the bottleneck will hit the week after thanksgiving. >> i think during cyber week there will be a couple o days where the industry will be overcapacity and you can expect delayed transit. >> reporter: do you think that the shipping deadlines will be earlier this year as a result of this surge in shipping >> yes i would say across the industry that the shipping deadlines are pulled forward and that there's a little bit less wriggle room. >> reporter: the experts say act now. >> plan ahead and be creative perhaps you buy online, pick up in store. maybe you buy a gift card instead of a physical gift. >> reporter: no word yet on when the earlier shipping deadlines will be. but some stores trying to pre-empt the problem offering early black friday sale this is month lester >>

anthony fauci about thanksgiving gatherings. we also have news on children and vaccine trials tonight. and the second wave already hitting europe. >>> the supreme court showdown. judge amy coney barrett, the president's choice to replace ruth bader ginsburg, pressed today by both democrats and republicans on the affordable care act, coverage for millions. with a case before the court just days after the election. republicans signaling today they know this is an issue the american people are watching closely. and what they asked judge barrett to clarify today. terry moran standing by. >>> 20 days until election day. early voting now under way in 48 states. what we're seeing across the country. you'll hear from voters right here tonight. and president trump in our most recent poll down significantly among women. overnight, asking suburban women, quote, will you please like me? >>> news tonight on the woman new york's central park that called 911 about a black man, a bird watcher, and what prosecutors have now revealed. >>> and we

anthony fauci about thanksgiving gatherings. we also have news on children and vaccine trials tonight. and the second wave already hitting europe. >>> the supreme court showdown. judge amy coney barrett, the president's choice to

what do you make of those statements about the election and about thanksgiving? >> well, i have to agree with dr. fauci. i personally believe that if you feel comfortable going to your local supermarket and shopping, you can vote in person. i'm personally going to vote in person by using basic precautions of wearing my mask, socially distancing. i encourage others to check their local guidelines, to grab a mask, hand sanitizer, get in line and vote. as far as the holiday season, this is going to be a different holiday season than others, but we have to take precautions. i understand that many want to see their friends and family, and i advise that if you have to travel, ask yourself and check yourself. ask yourself if you're in a high-risk area, if you're going to a high-risk area. make sure that you decrease the group size as much as you can. encourage mask wearing, social distancing, and making sure that you're remaining aware. >> ask yourself and check yourself. our thanks to dr. darian sutton. >>> coming up, the new american dream for more than a dozen black

missing thanksgiving with the family. but we have to look at the prize at the end, the prize is less peopleden dead, getting the economy open. and the way we do that is wearing a mask, social distancing, the science is in. now it's always about communications and behavior. that's where the president could help us if he behaved differently and communicated differently. >> dr. davis, thank you for being here. we'll watch closely to your area and the states spiking right now. >>> voters in wisconsin get to cast their ballot today. so we'll take you there live to show you what the lines look like next. (♪ ) keeping your oysters growing while keeping your business growing has you swamped. (♪ ) you need to hire i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base so you can start hiring right away. claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo understanding how to talk to your doctor about treatment options

probably after thanksgiving, and thanksgiving is probably going to potentially spread.g to come together after thanksgiving. december is going to be the more difficult month. these cases are going to build all the way through november it's going to start to look more difficult as we get into the month of november. and we'll cross 100,000 infections at some point in the next couple of weeks we might do it this week if the states report on time. we have to see if states like florida and texas report on friday and saturday, because we might get above 100,000 this week >> doctor, one of those nightmare scenarios we have been dreading is the convergence of flu, influenza, and covid, and, you know, we're getting close to flu season, and i wouldn't know what -- if i started, if i get a fever, i mean, that would just make me sure that i had covid, and not necessarily the case, right, but i have read that the flu season is either starting slow or anecdotally, we're not seeing as many cases and they're trying to tie that to covid? is it that we're washing our hands more or when d

thanksgiving is 5 months away. is it safe to say the connection is more important to people than it has ever been. the realities we are seeing cases of covid-19 every day and

we are seven months into this pandemic, thanksgiving is a little bit more than five weeks away, it is fair to say if that the sense of connection is more important to people than it ever husband. but the reality is, we are still seeing cases of covid, every day, and rising numbers across the country. how do you lead as the end of this year, as we know they want

to me, that's the exact scenario that you're going to see on thanksgiving. >> bottom line he says, don't risk it. >> on the subject of the holidays. for many families it's a time to give back by volunteers. that's harder to do than before. abc 7's queue ma'am si aaron tells us why as we look at the new way to holiday, how things are changing because of the pandemic. >> reporter: san francisco has many holiday traditions. there are the big christmas tree lightings, but others gear more towards giving. every year thousands volunteer helping out at food banks or food kitchens. this year the pandemic is making those organizations change their approach. >> we traditionally do a turkey carve with the mayor and the police chief. we're not going to do that because of covid. >> reporter: st. anthony's has been handing out meals since march when it was forced to close the dining room. it used to serve 2200 meals a day. that's jumped to 2800. purchasing food containers is costing st. anthony's $50,000 extra a month. >> the budget is 40% higher than pre-covid due to the loss of volunteers. we usuall

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. >> particularly with thanksgiving coming up we think it's really important to stress the vigilance of these continued mitigation steps in the household setting. >> reporter: tony green knows that threat too well. he held a small family gathering in texas in june. from that event he says 14 people became infected and two of his relatives died. >> i feel like a drunk driver that killed his family. >> reporter: in two hard-hit areas local leaders are cracking down. oklahoma city seeing a rise in hospitalizations is extending its mask ordinance until december 7th. new mexico's governor saying her state is approaching a point where the spread of the virus will be "uncontrollable," announces several new restrictions. bars and restaurants serving alcohol have to close at 10:00 p.m. gatherings limited to five people. in new york city the mayor says while some hot spots have leveled off the city is always at the threshold of getting back into trouble. >> we are threatened with a full-blown second wave in new york city. if that happens the entire city would have to go back to the restriction

. >> let's talk about thanksgiving. are you one of the people like dr. believes basically that we should cancel it now so as not to expose particularly our grandparents to any possible risk? >> yeah. i have to admit i'm feeling a little dark about thanksgiving given just the high community prevalence we have right now. if we had squashed it down, we could look at having this in a safer way. but right now across many parts of the country we're already on fire in regards to this, you know, pandemic with this virus circulating through. and, yes, we are seeing it in younger people more than older people. but thanksgiving is a time we bring all the family together, young and old, and that's exactly what is needed for it to jump from the people that get infected but not overly sick to the people that get it and end up with really poor outcomes. so we need to be really smart about what we're actually doing limiting the number of households, if there's high-risk people in the households, then really think about, you know, changing those plans to not having it wi

. >> in that context, thanksgiving and halloween is coming up. dr.ays please, i know you have coronavirus fatigue. be careful. >> my children are in three separate states throughout the country, and in order for them to get here, they would all have to go to an airport, get on a plane, travel with public transportation. they themselves because of their concern for me and my age have decided they are not going to come home for thanksgiving. even though all three of them want very much to come home for thanksgiving. >> how do you balance the urgency of the count going back up with the coronavirus fatigue many people have? >> john, this is the impossible situation that we're in this fall. we don't have to be in it. had we followed the basic precautions earlier, we could have been in a situation where we could have seen our faenls for thanksgiving. but unfortunately, given the rising case counts across the country, it is most likely unsafe to get together with elderly relatives for thanksgiving. if you are going to do it, do it outside for a very short p

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so thanksgiving? >> you may have to bite the bullet and sacrifice the social gathering. >> reporter: and indoors is the issue, and here is why. we have been hearing of the cdc about a amature hockey game in florida in the summer and one of them was infect and in the course of the game infected as many as 13 other player. granted, around the thanksgiving table, you won't be panting and hitting people as much as you will be on the ice, wolf, but it is indoors, and that is the issue. the virus spreads indoors, wolf. >> and harder to eat outdoors as it is colder and colder. thank you, nick watt, reporting from los angeles. and now joining us is richard b b boe boesser from the office of disease control. >> well, there are many parts of the midwest and many of the rural communities who thought that maybe they were spared by this are seeing the increases that occurred in other places. what we do will really matter. you know, the cdc dicts that the number of deaths will rise dramatically and so much of that

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>> our thanksgiving plans are not what they usually are.nately, we'll not do our usual travel home or having people come here. that's our current situation. that's not what we were hoping for. we were hoping by now to be in a better situation. i think that those experts are reflecting what we're reflect chicago ing which is it's just not worth it to get together for a day or two when that could be a superspreader in individual events. 10, 20 people together with their sort of mask down and guard down. then all of a sudden, thanksgiving would ruin christmas. and christmas is not going to be great already but if people are sick from what happened on thanksgiving, i don't think it will have been worth it. so 2021 is going to be a tough year. i hope that dr. fauci's incorrect that it's not until 2022 that we're back to normal but 2020 is off the table and i'm waiting on therapeutics and a vaccine in 2021 before i start really feeling better about returning to normal activities. >> the last people on earth we would want to spread something to, o