that's not the point of the ad. the point of the ad is to tell the story of the impact that he had on thousands of people. when he came to town, they lost their job, their pension benefits. that impact is felt still today in those communities. >> but you spent, i mean, you're a smart guy, you have a lot of smart ad people in the group that you're working with. half the ad is him talking about his wife's demise. and it ends with him saying i do not think that mitt romney realizes what he's done to anyone. the implication is clearly that he is responsible or what the actions he took led to his wife's death. >> you know, the story is a very sad one. and the truth is that there are thousands of stories that are, that happened as a result of mitt romney and his time at bain. and some of them are really tragic. but just because they're sad or tragic doesn't mean they should be off limits. we think it's important to tell the stories of these folks and how they were impacted by mitt romney. he put his business -- >> how is a

they know that the ad is full of lies. certainly they didn't know a week ago, they now know and ey have in the pulled it. i have to ask: what do you think is going on over there? what kind of campaign can raise $60 million or $70 million? all the ads they can do is one lie after another lie. >>stuart: i have to ask you this i heard a democrat today on the air say that this is just a conversation in the beltway. in other words, this ad will not stick. in fact, they will win with it. your response? >>guest: well, clearly, they would not keep running it unless they think that is the answer. this is a campaign strategy. when you don't have anything, what did you run on? if the voters discuss or the candidates discuss the issues on the minds of the voter that they are scared about the future, the economy is terrible, if that is the issue, obama loses. what can they do? they have to destroy the opponents. they have to destroy romney. make it so that people would not consider voting for him. that is how far, how low, the president

one of the ads we just saw, the response ad to the priorities ad that never run, saying this is beneath the president and uses the words "obama will say are do anything to get elected." they're trying to chip away at that likeability. and what's interesting to that is that's like the worst description you could hear from mitt romney. gwen: or any politician, actually. >> right but romney has had to fend off that charge. that he's just doing it for the political win, not out of his heart. >> look, president obama is a politician now. he might not have been four years ago but he is now. the republican national committee is running an ad basically giving it -- it's almost flattering from a way, not really, to president obama. saying it's ok, he tried. it's giving people permission to vote against president obama. i'm surprised it's coming in august perhaps rather than october. programs it will come out again. if it was a vote of history or -- it is giving people -- it's ok to not vote for him. fascinating. gwen: two rounds of battle scrams, state polls. we've seen some national polls. inte

newt gingrich defended the ad. but later on in this interview, speaker gingrich also makes a surprising admission. i spoke with the former candidate a short time ago. mr. speaker, this ad said, and i quote, under obama's plan you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they just send you your welfare check. according to every nonpartisan fact-checking organization, that is not clue. president clinton signed a law that you worked on said it's not true. even ron haskins, who worked on the welfare law, served as george w. bush's welfare adviser, said there is no plausible scenario in which it constitutes a serious attack on welfare reform. are they all wrong? >> the original developer of welfare reform worked with governor and president reagan. he was the first person to come out and say look, this will end welfare reform. his reasoning is straight forward. once you start allowing states -- this is why the law itself does not permit waivers. the president actually could not waive section 407 which says there can't be

newt gingrich is defending the ad. as you'll see later on in this interview, speaker gingrich, who i talked to just a short time ago, makes a surprising admission. i spoke with the former presidential candidate a short time ago. mr. speaker, this ad says, i quote, under obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work, they just send you a welfare check. accord to pretty much every fact checking organization, that's not true. president clinton who worked on the law says it's not true. even george haskens who worked as george w. bush's policy adviser says there's no plus automobile scenario under which this new policy institutes a new attack on welfare reform. are they all wrong? >> well, the individual from the heritage foundation who was the originally developer of welfare reform, worked with president reagan, he was the first person to come out aggressively and say this will in the end gut welfare reform reform. once you start allowing states -- this is why the law itself does not permit waivers. the president actually could n

the ad was released at 5:00 a.m. t really -- i don't think put on a conference call until late that afternoon in the obama campaign to respond. president clinton's statement didn't go out until 10:34 p.m. and the language of the statement was extremely soft. i mean here you are, you're intimately involved with this welfare reform fight, on tv, the campaign putting it out, locked clinton up, there's a statement that's extremely light, what's going on? >> well, two things. first of all, part of the information that the obama campaign gave president clinton was just false. the two republican governors have said flatly this is not what they asked for, not what they want and don't approve of it. to cite them as president clinton did is inaccurate and i think he was misled by the white house staff. if you're bill clinton, start with this notion, i just did a -- my news letter this week on the idea that obama is the anti-clinton. the idea of having obama have clinton nominate him is dangerous. clinton goes to the congress an

they gave four pinocchios to both the obama team's ad and the romney camp's ad. >> they're saying there'sway we're even suggesting there's a linkage to this many would's death. >> of course not. i like bill burton and i respect him, but he's engaging in sophistry. the greeks used to say that, we call it double speak now. the point of the ad is to say mitt romney was responsible for this woman's death because she did not have health insurance. if you look at the pattern, they've suggested heavily that mitt romney is a felon. they said he didn't pay taxes for ten years. now they're saying his business practices, he caused the death of a woman. on the other side, they're saying obama is the birther movement. he was born outside the united states, which is wrong. that he's a muslim, which is wrong. both sides, frankly, are playing dirty. >> in the romney campaign ad, they're saying -- which is a campaign ad, not a super pac ad. they're saying president obama is trying to gut welfare reform, that under his plan you wouldn't even have to work. you'll just be sent a check, which is factually not

even if muni does not pull the ad, the agency says it will be review the ad policy from here on out, and donating the money it's made from the ads to support the san francisco's human rights commission's education efforts. reporting live, bob redell. >>> scott mcgrew says investors shouldn't be caught off-guard. >> this should have all been baked in. the price for facebook should already reflect the knowledge that a whole lot of stock may suddenly be for sale. all we have to doing is look at other companies. shares in chicago-based angie's list crumped all in one day on tuesday, as that company's lockup period expired. it's at a record low. angie's list goss on a list of stock that haz failed to perform after the ipo. facebook, sinzynga, and groupon. linked in and yelp both founded by paypal founders have rewarded investors. let's check the news before the bell. let's turn to courtney reagan. >> hi, good morning. futures are slightly lower after the markets lost steam in yesterday's session, but late in that session stocks had been higher on positive earnings and a better than expecte

that whole ad the attack ad going on right now is painting mitt romney as an evil corporate raider. here is the guy the star of the ad saying wait a minute. romney offered to buy my job out. he offered him an out. >> oh my gosh, the evildoer said, this is actually very unusual. one of the e-mails they actually go to the workers the line workers and try to offer a buyout. people don't do that. that's going beyond the norm which is exceptional. that's a great point. point for romney. who does this to their wife's memory? it really bothers me he would do this and try to use his wife and politicize her death. god rest her soul. all of us have friends and family who lost their lives to cancer. why would you do this? shame on him. this guy was in one other ad, too. does he have a sad card? he's a paid actor. >> nobody is paying him. he's doing it of his own volition. this is what he wants. he has anger at mitt romney. >> help me out here -- >> his point is, and by the way this is a point on the buyout. the guy wanted his job. he didn't understand why all of a sudden his factory was being s

we'll confront the defenders of these ads. we're not taking political sides, we're simply trying to report facts. we begin tonight with the new mitt romney ad. >> in 1996, president clinton and a bipartisan congress helped end welfare as we know it. but on july 12th president obama announced a program to gut welfare. under obama's plan you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they just send you your check. >> in a moment you'll hear from newt gingrich to defend the ad. but first, i want to show you how mitt romney is campaigning on the claims made in that very ad. >> with a very careful compuexee action, he removed the requirement of work from welfare. it is wrong to make any change that would make america a nation of government dependency. we must restore and i will restore work into welfare. >> listening to that and watching the ad you would think that the white house somehow managed to undo what the elected representatives accomplished on welfare reform. you get the obama administration wants an america where hard worki

even if muni does not pull the ad, the agency says it will be reviewing the ad policies from here on the way, if they did pull the ad, that would be a first for the agency. they have never done that before. in the meantime the money they are making, they are donating to help with the education efforts. reporting live here from san francisco, bob redell "today in the bay." they're facing -- soon after discharging them. >> about 1 in 5 medicare patients is readmitted to the hospital within 30 days of release. now medicare is penalizing. hospitals across the country. hospitals nationwide will forfeit $280 million in medicare funds over the next year. in the bay area, hospitals receiving some of the biggest penalty include seton medical center, st. rose hospital in hayward and o'connor hospital in san jose. >>> laura, oakland police are hoping it's the break in the case they have been waiting for. christie smith is live in oakland with the new sketch and surveillance video that police are hoping might help them solve a case. >> they say it was actually eyewitnesses that helped them out wi

that it is too straightforward. >> i think the ad does assert -- this is a political ad. in 30 seconds, you tend not to get all the various amendments nd things. >> but accuracy is important. >> i'm here tonight supporting the idea. i believe absolutely that this, the obama administration is filled with people who do not believe in the work requirement. and this is, as you yourself pointed out, even when bill clinton agreed to sign the bill, half the democrats in the house, 101 representatives voted no. barrack obama himself was opposed to it. so when you say to me do i think all the people who opposed the bill would probably try to gut it if they get a chance? of course i do. >> if you were running this ad, you would change the wording to say i worry about this or based on what i believe about the president, i think he will do this. >> if i were running the ad, it would be a much tougher ad because i would start by saying, as the leading food stamp president in american history and the person who has increased american dependency, and a guy who has increased child poverty

a string of fact checkers have blasted the ad as fall. "the washington post" fat guy weighed in with four pinnochios. that's their rating system. what in fact the white house proposed doing was give governors more flexibility to tailor the program to their own states. and these were changes, by the way, requested by the republican governors of utah and nevada. but what about this claim? >> if president obama didn't want people to think that he was going to waive the central work requirement in welfare reform, his administration shouldn't have written a memo saying it was going to waive the work requirements in welfare reform. >> keeping them honest, here's the relevant portion from that very memo from the department of health and human services. hh is will only consider approving waivers for the work participation requirements that make changes intended to lead to more effective needs of meeting the work goals. 9 administration is insisting they're not trying to waive the work requirement. they're trying to milwaukee itless bureaucratic an

that's not the point of the ad. ad is to tell the story of the impact that mitt romney had on the lives of thousands of people. when he came to town, they lost their jobs, they lost their health care, they lost their pension benefits ch and that impact is felt today still in those communities. >> but you're a smart guy. you have a lot of smart ad people in the group that you're working with. half the ad is talking about him and his wife's demise. the implication is clearly that he is responsible or what the actions that he took led to his wife's death. >> the story is a very sad one. and the truth is that there are thousands of stories that are -- that happened as a result of mitt romney and his time at bane. but some of them are really tragic. we think it's important to tell the stories of these folks and how they were impacted by mitt romney. >> how is a woman dying dshl i mean, she had health insurance from her job after this man lost his job and then she got an injury years later and then lost her insurance. >> t

pretty soon is whole campaign is about the ad. >> ads about ads about ads. >> it does. remember in may, there was a republican afill yaleed superpac that -- affiliated superpac that floated an idea they might make a commercial about obama link to reverend jeremiah wright. big media firestorm. jay carney from the white house press office denounced the idea, said, "there are moments when you have to stand up and say that is not the right way to go." he said mitt romney needed to condemn this ad. as a matter of fact, the ad which did exist was condemned by romney and the come pain. now jay carney denying any complicity in the pro-obama super-pac ads. super-pacs make hypocrites of all sides. now obama's turn. >> john: what will the effect be on the obama campaign. tarnish his reputation? >> it does. but in terms of the vote which all they care about, winning or losing, i think urn fortunately, it isn't a great statement of our politics i think it helps him. it takes the oxygen out of any romney argument, about obama stewardship, about his ideology, his ideas. wh

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half the ad is him talking about his wife's demise. him saying i do not think mitt romney real lie liezs what he has done to anyone. the implication is that clearly he is responsible or what -- the actions he took led to his wife's death. >> you know, the story is a very sad one and the truth is that there are thousands of stories that are -- that happened as a result of mitt romney and his time at bain. and some of them are really tragic. but just because they're sad or tragic doesn't mean they should be offlimits. we believe it's important to tell the stories about how they relate to mitt romney. >> she had health insurance from her job after this man lost his job and then she got an injury years later and then lost her insurance. >> right. to say that presupposed that we're trying to link mitt romney with her tragedy ji. >> you a . >> you are. if you're not trying to link it, why are you even talking about her 1234. >> if we were making that point, that means if she hadn't had another job in an intervening time, if it had somehow hap

and president clinton's rakz to the romney ad? it's just not true. >> the obama camp wants to nip this in the bud. they see what the romney camp is doing. see, folks, it's august, and mitt romney figured out he cannot win on a platform of cutting taxes for the rich, deregulating industry, and just getting rid of health care reform because all three of those are losiers in the polls with the people. instead, romney has to make things up to scare people about welfare queens coming to take their money. in this instance, the romney camp is completely ignoring the fact about the waiver policy. how many of you out there across america know what the waiver policy is? hasn't been much detail about it. the department of health and human services, basically, what they're doing is giving states more latitude to meet the work goals of the federal welfare program. this is what the states have wanted for a long time, for example, the state of nevada wrote to the hhs department in 2011, nevada is very interested in working with your staff to expl

rest of the ad, because it's so packed with lies. re's the truth. states now do have the power to award temporary assistance. republican governors, they asked for this policy change. romney himself when he was governor asked for this change. states still have to fulfill welfare for work requirements. there is no welfare handout. newt gingrich admits he's just speculating on what the obama administration might do some day. >> we have no proof today, but i would say to you under obama's ideology, it is absolutely true that he would be comfortable sending a lot of people checks for nothing. >> gingrich is stuck defending romney's lie, so instead of talking about the romney welfare ad, gingrich is going on the offensive. today, he called on president obama to disavalue the priorities usa ad we told you about at the top of the show. gingrich actually said the candidate should be held accountable. here's the problem, it's not the president of the united states' ad. >> priorities usa action is responsible for the contents of this advertising

>> i think that the ad does assert -- but this is a political ad. in 30 seconds, you tend not to get all the various amendments and things. i'm here tonight supporting the idea. i believe, absolutely, that the obama administration is filled with people who do not believe in the work requirement. as you, yourself, pointed out, even when bill clinton decided to sign the bill, half the house, 101 representatives voted no. barack obama himself was opposed to it. so if you say to me do i think all of those people who opposed the bill would probably try to gut it if they get a chance? of course i do. >> but if you were running this ad, you would change the wording to say i at least worry about this? >> well, if i were running the ad, it would be a much tougher ad because i would start by saying as the leading food stamp person in american history more than anyone else in modern times. and a guy who has failed totally with child poverty. with the clinton-gingrich welfare plan, child poverty went down by 25 pnt, the largest decline was because we had a work

let's talk about the ad. we mentioned the operation in question actually went out of business, they filed for bankruptcy after mitt romney had been disassociated with bain capital. the woman's death is tragic and everyone would agree with that. but she died several years after that man lost his job. is it a dirt track? >> it doesn't matter and quite frankly, they have backcheck, pinocchio, whenever these check places do. we should point out that the presence first attack ad on mitt romney was on the same income when they called him a vampire. this is the next part of the story from this super pac. it doesn't matter whether it's true, and quite simply they probably don't care if it's true. what they care about is getting in it on the air and right now they have not heard it yet. but what they have done is by running an ad that is so salacious and over-the-top, it promotes the character, it's a character attack. they know what's it's going to create controversy and is going to be seen even before they put a nick

>> i think the ad -- this is a political ad. in 30 seconds you tend not to get all the various amend ams and things. i'm here tonight to support the idea and i believe absolutely that this obama administration is filled with people who do not believe in the work requirement. as you pointed out, even when bill clinton signed the bill, 100 voters voted no. barack obama was opposed to it. it was a huge defense of dependency without work. you say to me, do i think all those people who opposed the bill would try to gut it if they get a chance, of course i do. >> if you were running this ad, you would at least say i would worry about this or based on what i believe about the president and he will do this. >> if i were running the ad, it would be a tougher ad. i start by saying as the leading food stamp president in american history and the person who increased dependency more than anyone else and failed with child poverty. with the clinton and gingrich welfare plan, child poverty went down by 25%. the largest decline in child poverty i

they are dealing with the fallout and offensive about the cancer ad and the welfare reform ad.out the ad and how it plays? >> i think it has a very specific focus target audience that is catholic, polish american. romney had a very successful leg in the trip in poland although you wouldn't know it if you read the media in the u.s. gotten dorrsed by a man who was a great polish hero. the man who carried out for the second. they link that connection and the fact that romney was endorsed when he was in poland. the issue is a strong one. it is entirely as precontraception denying to women drug stores aren't going to be allowed. it is about whether or not you get it in your healthcare plan or not. it is obviously available otherwise. they are over looking the fact that there is a direct rebuke to religious institutions like catholic charities which are required to do their own doctrine. it is understood by mainly catholics were interested in this. i think it will have a large effect on the small minority and can swing a state like ohio or any of the other midwestern states. >> you l

the more we learn the less the ad appears to hold up. >> president obama continues to renounce the republican super pact ads. >> you have these super pacts that are just going crazy. >> yet the white house and obama campaign will still not criticize a democratic super pact ad suggesting romney deserves blame for joe soptic's wife dying of cancer. bain capital did not treat him as badly as implied. the steel worker saying he was offered a buyout. >> in my department they actually offer to do buy our jobs out from underneath us. >> bain took over goc steel and shut it down. he said in reference to romney i am not blaming him for her death i wouldn't do that. hard to do that anyway since soptic's wife had her own health insurance after the plant shut down. she died five years after the company went bankrupt. all reasons they had a stinging review from romney himself who charged the president's ool l s allies are focusing on attacks. >> whatever happened to a campaign of hope and change. i thought he was a new kind of politician. >> while obama campaign spokeswoman yesterday claimed chicago was i

i don't think the ad said that, either. >> it suggests -- >> the irony of all of this, george, this ad is running at the very same time that governor romney campaigned is running an ad -- not running, the ad hasn't been on the ad, he's running ads, saying that the president wants to end the work requirement in welfare, every single person who's looked at it is false. he continues to run it. and then he attacks others for ads that we didn't approve and produce? i think he's the one who needs to explain. >> i'll ask tim pawlenty about that. but does the president think about this kind of an ad was appropriate? >> look, as i said, i don't think goff thor romney can be blamed for that woman's death. what he can blamed for is taking that steel company, two bankruptcies, welcoalking away millions of dollars, that's the real issue. he has run on his business experience and his business experience is things like the gs steel story, where they loaded up companies with debt, profited from it to the tune of millions of dollars, left workers and creditors holding the bag. >> governor pawlenty comi

responsible for the welfare ad. approve this message. >> newt gingrich is right about one thing, the candidate should be held accountable. let's bring in democratic strategist chris kofinis tonight. good to have you with us, you've been down this road before, the mud slinging back and forth about what's true and what isn't. is there a difference between these two political ads? >> there's a huge difference, legally if nothing else. legally, you cannot coordinate between an independent group and a campaign. you'd be breaking the law if you did, so right there there's a difference. just in terms of the message, you know, the romney ad, that is their message. that is something that the romney campaign approved, that governor romney now owns. the ad that was put out by priorities usa is not an ad on behalf of the obama campaign. it wasn't put out by the obama campaign. it was not funded by the obama campaign, so there's a fundamental difference. i find it somewhat ironic, to say the least, when you think about the fact

>> greg: about the ad. 50% off on bottles. >> did you hear about the business that is going on with the "50 shades of gray"? >> bob: we have to do a topic on that. >> dana: i'm moving this. see you tomorrow. bye. >> bret: a cancer death ad, welfare reform battle. unemployment. and contraception. just some of day 90 on the presidentm campaign trail. from new york. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier at fox news headquarters in new york. in a campaign season that has already unleashed an unrelenting stream of negativ negativity, a new ad by a super pac supporting the president paints mitt romney perhaps the most unfavorable light yet. that is saying something. chief washington correspondent ed henry is traveling with the president in colorado. >> mr. romney. you're not going to be the candidate we choose. >> president obama rolled out a new surrogate. sandra fluke. the former law student at center of contraception flap earlier in year. a new poll suggesting in colorado he has an essential among female voters but republican mitt romney may be gaining. the pr

thatat it was a super pac ran the ad. it turned d out they were on a conference call with him many months agogo. it gets a little bit into the process. it is a big story in this tn because, rthere is some of fafact ccking going on that part of the media coverage of your ads will be whethther they are accurate or not. is there any backlash when an ad generates so many pinocchios as the candidate it is meant too attack is in forable? for example, this attack against mitt romney assocociating him -- anywhere from john stewawart making jokes at the obama campaign's expense when f fact checkers said she d died in n years after the fact reclosable and had her own health insurance. what is the take-out getting ththe message out witith a negative onslaught? and has to be believable. at the end of the day, people cacannot believe this coul actually happen. but as far as the fact checking those, the media does a good job of dogng canandidates and making them prove why the claims s that are makaking a true that is between the media a

first the paul ryan thing. and healthcare ad. throwing her over the cliff. now this?l? >> eric: the shoe on the other foot, on the other side of the aisle there would be outrage. but it's okay if he is a republican, black conservative in congress. he takes more cheat shots, below the belt than anyone. if a righty were to do it against left wing congressman who is black, boy, racism all over the place. >> kimberly: your eyeballs are -- gregg by the way, the great thing about west, he is not whining about it. pointing out a fundamental hypocrisy even bob you can see it. fundamental hypocrisy if this happened to a candidate that was a liberal. mitt romney if he had any guts would pick this guy as the vice president this is the antithesis of obama. he sweats old school ideas. it would be like tyson versus thuston howell iii. entertaining debate ever. none of obama teachers lounge baloney would fly with west. got to happen. >> bob: greg has a migraine and that's why he is acting like this. we'll get him his medicine. >> greg: i took a pill, bob. >> bob: this is the same co

and the ad is no longer running. e planes were given to hydecamp for free by the federal government and used for drug trafficking surveillance. no money was ever spent, and the planes weren't for private use at all. hydecamp responded to the bogus commercial on my radio show earlier today. >> they accused me of securing a private plane with public money, which was completely false. absolutely untrue. and we were able to push back and get them to pull the ad. i mean, that's the good news. the bad news is, they're going to continue to lie. continue to disport it. continue to say -- distort it. continue to say she raised energy taxes when that's absolutely not true. we have to get people to understand you can't believe a word out of these folks' mouth. >> rove's group had intended to spend over $190,000 running the false commercial in north dakotas. heitkamp told me she expects rove to spend $1.5 million attacking her. this is a tight senate race to watch. >>> tonight, our survey, i asked -- will mitt romney's welfare li