the c.i.a. and our nation. so that neither the c.i.a. nor any future administration repeats the grievous mistakes this importance oversight work reveals. the process of compiling, drafting, redacting and now releasing this report has been much harder than it needed to be and it brings no one joy to discuss the c.i.a.'s brutal and appalling use of torture or the unprecedented actions of some in the intelligence community and the administration have taken in order to cover up the truth. now, a number of my colleagues who've come to the floor over the past 24 hours to discuss this report have referred to 9/11. and i, too, will never forget the fear, the pain and the anger that we all felt on that day and the days that followed. americans were demanding action from our government to keep us safe. everyone, myself included, wanted to go to the ends of the earth to hunt down the terrorists who attacked our nation and to make every effort to prevent another attack. although we shared that goal, this rep

the c.i.a. plays an incredibly important part in our nation's security, and has thousands of dedicated and talented employees. what we have found is that a surprisingly few people were responsible for designing, carrying out, and managing this program. two contractors developed and led the interrogations. there was little effective oversight. analysts -- analysts -- on occasion gave operational orders that interrogations and c.i.a. management of the program was weak and diffused. our final report was approved by a bipartisan vote of 9-6 in december, 2012, and exposes brutality in stark contrast to our values as a nation. this effort was focused on the actions of the c.i.a. from late 2001 to january of 2009. the report does not include considerable detail on the c.i.a.'s interactions with the white house, the -- excuse me, it does include considerable detail on the c.i.a.'s interactions with the white house, the departments of justice, state, defense, and the senate intelligence committee. the rev

five, the c.i.a. was not responsible nor did it have control over sharing or dissemination of information to other executive branch agencies or to members of the principles' committee. six, many of the study's claims about the c.i.a. providing inaccurate information to the department of justice or themselves totally inaccurate. seven, the c.i.a. did not significantly impede oversight by the c.i.a. office of the inspector general. and, eight, the white house determined that the c.i.a. would have the lead on dealing with the media regarding detainees. these findings are not matters of defense of the c.i.a. the c.i.a. is fully capable of defending its own actions and i know will do so. rather, these findings are a critique of certain aspects of this particular study. as a general rule, i want our committee findings, conclusions, and recommendations to be unasalablunasalable in every investigation that we conduct. unfortunately, that didn't happen here and i'm very concerned about the unintended consequenc

the c.i.a. provided inaccurate memoranda and explanations to the department of justice while its legal counsel was considering the legality of the coercive techniques. in those communications to the department of justice, the c.i.a. claimed the following -- the coercive techniques would not be used with excessive repetition, detainees would always have an opportunity to provide information prior to the use of the techniques. the techniques were to be used in progression starting with the least aggressive and proceeding only if needed. medical personnel would make sure that interrogations wouldn't cause serious harm and they could interview at any time to stop interrogations. interrogators were carefully vetted and highly trained. and each technique was to be used in a specific way without deviation and only with specific approval for the interrogator and detainee involved. none of these assurances which the department of justice relied on to form its legal opinions were consistently or even routi

the c.i.a. was far more brutal, far more widespread on far more shakier legal dwround than the agency had previously represented. the c.i.a. willfully misled media out lets, lawmakersened e, national security officials and the white house about the extent of the program and its effectiveness. the senator with chilling details about how the c.i.a. treated it e its destiny. we learned threats to sexually abuse the mother of a detainee and to cut a detainee mother's throat. we learned that two detainees were subjected to positions including being shackled in a position for extended periods of time with broken bones in their feet. we learned that one c.i.a. official played russian roulette and another played with a gun and a power drill. five were subjected to rectal rehydration or feeding through the rectum with no medical necessity, including one whose lunch tray was pure rayed and rectally infused. we learned that a c.i.a. officer who contributed to death, likely from hype therm ya, was later give

the c.i.a. tually outsowrsd 85% of the workforce for detention and interrogation to their company, paying them $81 million. at one detention site in afghanistan, the report says detainees were kept in total darkness, shackle to the wall in 45-degree temperatures. one prisoner died in 2002, apparently from hypothermia. the report's most damning conclusion is that the tactics were ineffective. despite the c.i.a.'s claim that 20 detainees subjected to them shared crucial information, some of which led to osama bin laden. >> our staff reviewed every one of the 20 cases, and not a single case holds up. >> reporter: the report claims the c.i.a. misled congress and the administration about where it was getting its intelligence in order to justify the program. in fact, scott, congressional investigators determined that president bush himself was not fully briefed about these tactics until 2006, four years after the program started. >> pelley: nancy, thanks. the c.i.a. defended itself today, and we have t

the c.i.a. during the bush administration. i have served for 22 years with the chairman of the intelligence committee, dianne feinstein. she is dignified. she is very thorough in whatever she does. she is intelligent. and she cares a great deal. she has proven herself to be one of the most thoughtful and hardworking members in the history of this body. the people of california are, as well they should be, very proud of this good woman. i'm appreciative of the work that the senate intelligence committee has done under her direction. we're here today because of her efforts. she has persevered, overcome obstacles that have been significant to make this study available to the american people. i'm gratified of the work done by democrats on the intelligence committee. we're here today, again i repeat, because of their efforts. we don't often mention certainly as we should, the work of our staffs. i want to throw a big bouquet to the intelligence staff. they have worked so hard. under the direction of s

the c.i.a. does not want this report coming out, and i believe the nation owes them a debt of gratitude. they are dan jones, who has led this review since 2007, and more than anyone else today is a result of his effort. evan godesman and tad turner, each wrote thousands of pages of the full report and have dedicated themselves and much of their lives to this project. elisa starszac, who began this as cohead and contributed extensively until her departure from the committee in 2011. other key contributors to the drafting, editing and review of the report were jennifer barrett, nick basiano, mike buckwald, jim katella, eric chapman, lor lorenzo goco, trecd genif, michael neblet, michael pezner, caroline tess and james wolf. and finally david granite, who has been a never-faltering staff director throughout this review. madam president, this study is bigger than the actions of the c.i.a. it's really about american values and more or less. it's about the constitution, the bill of rights, our rule of

the c.i.a. of using interrogation technique such as violent threats to a prisoner's families, including the threat of cutting a mother's throat. the rectal dehydration of five detainees and waterboarding used on an suspects. the report also claims the c.i.a. left lawmake lawmakers, including president bush, in the dark as to its tactics. >> incomplete and inaccurate information from the c.i.a. was used in documents provided to the department of justice. >> the nearly 7,000 page report took the senate committee almost six years to compile, a critical point in the debate of this report is the effectiveness of physical abuse in extracting valuable information were suspects, a point debated even today. >> they describe brutal around-the-clock interrogations. in which multiple coercive techniques were used in combination, and substantial repetition. >> but c.i.a. director john brennan said in a statement, hour review indicates it did produce intelligence. it did thwart attack plans, capture terrorists

mark udall said the c.i.a. is lying. >> it's bad enough not to prosecute these officials, but to reward or promote them and risk the enter great o integrity of the u.s. government is incomprehensible. the president needs to purge his administration of high-level officials instrumental in the running of this program. >> it was not the first time that mark udall has called for john brennan to resign as head of the c.i.a. he called for it over the summer when the c.i.a. was accused of searching computers to compile this explosive report. they said they were not digging into the computers, and then later recanted this statement. mark udall is using his last major moments in washington to rail against the c.i.a. >> libby, how is the white house responding to these calls for accountability? >> well, they're focusing on what president obama did when he first came in to office. he banned these so-called enhanced interrogation techniques, and the president and his staffers keep pointing back to that. josh earnest was ask

the report highlights how the c.i.a. paid out there 1.1 million to cover legal expenses for the company and its employees. government investigators were told about how the c.i.a. provided millions of dollars to build and maintain secret detention sites in foreign countries, including two facilities that were never used. suspects that were detained were paid off after they were released and instructed not to speak about the experience. one prisoner receiving 14,500 euros. 18,000 u.s. at the time of his release. one person associated with the c.i.a. programme told government investigators that payments of more than a million remained without any paperwork in cash and out of boxes containing $100 adding: >> according to the 6,000 page report, it was wide open, there were employee rewards and a c.i.a. officer received a cash reward of $2500 for simply doing a good job >>> thomas drayton reporting. reaction to the report is largely focussed on the physical abuses. in many ways the psychological tactics were as brutal. science

the c.i.a. relied on these two contractors to evaluate the interrogation program they had devised and in which they had obvious financial interests; again, a clear conflict of interest and an avoidance of responsibility. by the c.i.a. in 2005, the two contractors formed a company specifically for the purpose of expanding their work with the c.i.a. from 2005 to 2008 the c.i.a. outsourced almost all aspects of its detention and interrogation program to this country as part of a contract valued at more than $180 million. ultimately, not all contract options were exercised. however, the c.i.a. has paid these two contractors and their company more than $80 million.

the c.i.a. on enhanced interrogation techniques. reaction from around the world. >> the winners and losers in a budget deal that could prevent a government shutdown you. >> a breakthrough in autism? a treatment plan some say help their children. >> a royal sendoff, will and kate's final day in new york city and why their trip home was not exactly fit for a king. >> boys. i'm dell walt. >> i'm steph sigh. the white house is taking extra precautions to protect americans overseas. tuesday's release of the c.i.a. interrogation report raising alarms of a potential global backlash. >> the report released by democrats in the senate intelligence committee about use of torture. lawmakers calling the findings far worse and more brutal than many even thought. president obama said the c.i.a.'s actions are contrary to u.s. values. >> some of the tactics that were written about in the senate intelligence report were brutal and as i've said before, constituted torture in my mind and that's not who we are. >> we

the c.i.a. programme was more brutal than people were led to believe. >> reporter: detainees were deprived of sleep for up to oo week. they were forced to have enemmas, not for medical reasons. and they were water boarded which the c.i.a. described as a series fz near drown ep, and there are reports of violent beatings. contradicting assurances from top bosses. the senate report says the c.i.a. lied to cop cigarettes, the white house and government. they lied about the programme's effective licence. >> i can't say that questioning the detainees has given us information that saved lives. the report says it's not true. interrogations did not stop plots or lead to the capture or killing of operatives. president obama has banned the use of torture, but ruled out prosecuting the people who carried it out. >> my goal is to make sure having banned this practice as one of the first things i did in office, that we don't do it again. we have to recognise when we are under threat and afraid and the public i

the report said that the c.i.a. hid the scope and brutality of the tactics that it used to credit detainees. it details how enhanced interrogation techniques were not helpful in recovering information about attacks. >> tony, the report is withering in its criticism of the cruelty of the enhancedter gas station technique and their lack of effectiveness and it describes an agency that misled the white house and congress along the way. >> it shows that the c.i.a.'s actions a decade ago are a stain on our value and on our history. >> reporter: the reports summary runs more than 500 pages and offers explosive new allegations of cruelty and cover ups by the c.i.a. five years in the making by democratic staffers on the senate intelligence committee the report says that the c.i.a.'s enhanced interrogation techniques were not effective, that the c.i.a. misled both the public and policymakers about the program's effectiveness. management of the program was inadequate and deeply flawed and the interrogation techniques used were

the c.i.a. did this. the c.i.a. did that. the fact is, the c.i.a. as an institution doesn't do anything. people do things. and i've been around the world and met with c.i.a. people in all of our -- in many countries, and i've met with them here. they are patriotic, they are dedicated, they are smart, they are brave. and the problem with this situation is, their reputation has been sullied by a relatively small group of people early in the prior decade. so i want to make clear, at least as far as i'm concerned, this is not an attempt to discredit or otherwise undermine the c.i.a. or the good people that are there but to point out that mistakes were made. and the second point is that i think we need to acknowledge that those were extraordinary time, the year or so after september 11. we thought there was going to be another attack. there was a lot of pressure to uncover that information. and i think it's -- it's easy ten years later to look back and say, well, we shouldn't have done this or w we shouldn't have done that. i think we have to acknowledge

the c.i.a. the spechk how the russians had gotten away with plantding those microphones in such a way that the american embassy had never detected them, even though they had been sweeping the embassy for bugs. so he's getting them really valuable information. in 1964, he decided to defect to the united states. and that is when things started going horribly wrong. in 1963, the c.i.a. had written an interrogation manual, basically where they would use torture techniques. they would even use things like hypnosis and drugging people into a stupor to try to get more out of them in an interrogation. a year before, when nosenko defekted, that was a year before as their guidelines. the other thing that happened right before he got there was the assassination of president john f kennedy. the man who killed president kennedy was lee harvey oswald. while lee harvey osa e wald had been, nosenko had bun one of the kgb officers who was assigned to interview him. he had viewed the soviet files on lee harvey osw

three, the c.i.a. attempted to keep the congress informed of its activities and did so on regular basis. >> woodruff: the current director john brennan was involved in >> ifill: the current director, john brennan, was involved in some of those decisions during the bush administration. in a statement today, he acknowledged wrongdoing, but said the interrogations did prevent attacks. three former cia directors, george tenet, porter goss and michael hayden agreed. in their own lengthy statment, they argued that the interrogations "led to the disruption of terrorist plots and prevented mass casualty attacks, saving american and allied lives." the former directors also said the c.i.a.'s enhanced interrogations, or e.i.t's., made possible the 2011 operation that killed osama bin laden. senator feinstein sharply disputed that claim in her speech. >> ifill: as to the decision to release the report, republican john mccain, a survivor of extensive torture as a prisoner in vietnam, strongly endorsed it today. i be

now part of the new c.i.a. report describes two psychologists the agency hired to create enhanced interrogation techniques. roxana saberi spoke to one of the men believed to be one of the so-called architects of the program. >> reporter: i reached james mitchell by phone in florida. he told me he could not confirm oh or deny if he was one of the two psychologists referred to the reporin the report. >> reporter: the senate report refers to two psychologists who helped c.i.a.'s use of brutal interrogation. they said they used enhanced interrogation on subjects. it identifies two contractors using the pseudonyms. their real names are reported as james mitchell and bruce jjessen. they said they were not there in realtime and the men and women in the c.i.a. without confirming or denying that i was a part of that interrogation program gave their lives to support the u.s. in our conversation he refused to confirm that he was one of the architects of the program. saying people think i am. i'm not acknowledging it one wa

the c.i.a.? s yes, then throw out that report. >> just remember, back then the feeling -- we know now they were plotting other attacks. they wanted -- right after 9-11, they wanted to kill thousands more. so it was the ticking thyme bomb thing. you can't go all jack bower on somebody and shoot them in the leg, tell me the answer, boom, boom, boom. that's not real life. but they went to the president. he authorized it. they went to the attorney general, they went to the department of justice. it was all ok'd. and the historic context of how we were feeling as a nation waiting for the other shoe to drop is completely left out. >> i just wish everyone should fully realize that we're not out of the woods yet, that these people are even more sophisticated, more advanced and they're even greater numbers now than they were 14 years ago. >> now they're ready to retaliate after this report was released. >> they were ready to retaliate from the day they were born. >>> it other news, there have been more pro

and was part of the c.i.a. when the enhanced techniques were carried out, and he said that he was outside the chain of command. today you heard him say that a lot of people who were carrying out the interrogations, many not trained to do so at least at the outset of the programme in 2002, went outside the guidelines. he called it harsh, abhorrent. something he views as regrettable. he was in the bush administration. he carried over, he has been a familiar figure at the white house. as president obama's anti-terrorism expert on the national security council, and moving to the c.i.a. look no further than out in the driveway yesterday as all this exploded. i think it was this morning. john brennan was seen leaving the white house. why? not because he had a pregame before his speech with president obama, but he's here virtually every morning, sitting. the president and other presidents get a briefing. so the president obama you have seen walking a fine line between coming out against the techniques, which after all

did the c.i.a. give a contract to these guys? >> that's a great question. that's what a lot of people are asking today. they were air force psychologists who were involved in a training program called sear, which stands for survival evasion resistence escape. they were putting service men and women through training exercise playing coercive interrogators to expose them to those kinds of tactics if they were captured. the program is really modeled on what happened to american service men in the korean war when the communist chinese were trying to extract false confessions. that's what the tactics were supposed to do. what mitchell and jessen told the c.i.a. is we can reverse engineer these tactics for you and we'll extract terrific confessions. >> they're claiming to the c.i.a. we can turn this around. did they have any thread of evidence that their theory would work? >> they really didn't. and that is what shocked some of their colleagues from the sear program because everybody knew that they didn't

because while the c.i.a. nducting an all-you-can-pump rectal-hydration festival, here's what george bush said. >> the united states does not torture. >> stephen: and he should know because he specifically asked not to be told. now, another person who doesn't want to be told things is wolf blitzer, who yesterday blitzed dianne feinstein, the chairman of the senate commit they released this report. >> was it worth it to release this report today if in fact american lives, diplomats, military personnel, civilians are going to be in danger? >> look, there is no perfect time to release this report. there have been beheadings. there have been attacks without this report coming out. >> but if americans are killed as a result of this report and they tell you that, i assume you would feel guilty about that. >> i would feel very badly, of course. i mean what, do you think, wolf blitzer? ( laughter ) >> stephen: yes. what do you think, wolf isaac blitzer. and don't you roll your eyes at me, young man. now go clean your s

the c.i.a. issued a statement rebutting some of the report saying the interrogation methods were legal, and they did lead to important intelligence. meanwhile the fbi and the department of homeland security issued a bulletin urge law enforcement to stay on alert. >> john mccain acknowledged the release of the information, saying it's worth it. >> it is used by our enemies in attempts to hurt us. but the american people are entitled to it. nonetheless. >> you must know when the values that define our nation are disregarded by our security policies, even those policies that are conducted in secret whether they served a greater good or whether, as i believe, they stained our national honour. >> let's bring in al jazeera english contributor, a former director of the c.i.a. counter-terrorism center and mission manager for the agency from 2002 to 2004. just jip is a national -- justine is a national security and human rights editor was a whistleblower in the john walker lyndon interrogation and has bee

the senate report says the c.i.a. lied to white house, congress and the public and about the effectiveness. >> i can say questioning the detainees in the programme gave us information that saved innocent lives by helping us stop new attacks. >> the report says it's not true, the interrogations did not stop plots or lead to the capture or killings of operatives, like osama bin laden or mohammed. president obama banned the use of torture, but ruled out prosecuting the people that car i had it out. >> my goal is to make sure, having beened the practice as one of the first things i did coming into office, that we don't make the speak again. when we are under threat, and we are afraid, and the public is clamoring to do something. that's when we have to be on guard because, you know, there are times when we can slip into the kinds of activities that i don't think we want to see repeated. >> experts warn the next president could overturn his order. >> it would unfortunately be easy for president obama or the next president to

the c.i.a. misled the white house and congress. we'll hear from the committee chair, diane feinstein and others. later, secretary of state john kerry testifying about the mill tabt group isis is also asked about the senate c.i.a. interrogation report. also today on capitol hill, former health care consultant jonathan gruber testified about the passage of the health care law. the headline, gruber critics of the health care law for his comments about the "stupidity of the american voter." the m.i.t. economist who helped tote this was summoned answer for controversial comments that have surfaced in recent weeks on the internet. that is from roll call. here is part of the opening comments from mr. gruber. like to begin by apologizing sincerely for the offending comments that i've made. in some cases i made uninformed and glib comments about the process behind health-care reform. an expert in politics. in other cases i simply made mean and comments that were uncalled for. i apologize for conjecturing

but in march 2005 the c.i.a. submitted to the department of justice various examples of the effectiveness of the c.i.a.'s enhanced interrogation techniques that were inaccurate. and the c.i.a. provided extensive amounts of inaccurate and incomplete information to the white house, the national security council principles and their staffs. general michael hayden, former c.i.a. director defended the agency on wednesday saying the c.i.a. was following orders. in. >> in all of these activities the president authorized them, the congress was briefed without objection, and we carried them out. 2006 i'm almost certain 2007 absolutely certain. i recall at that point i gave them a list with the 30-some detainees who had had enhanced interrogation techniques used with the techniques across the cross and xs in the box as to which technique was used against which detainee. >> reporter: senator saxby chambliss. >> the nation has been traumatized, and there was no greater imperative than stopping another attack from happening. t

the c.i.a.'s interrogation program. >> real actual people engaged in torture. some of these people are still employed by the c.i.a. and the u.s. government. >> governments abroad, including china, iran and afghanistan are also taking the american program to task. >> all accepted norms of human rights in the world and american law have been violated by a number of c.i.a. agents and their contractors. >> prosecuting anyone involved in the enhanced interrogation techniques is highly unlikely. the justice department looked into allegations of prisoner abuse in 2012 and chose not to indict. >> it's bad enough not to prosecute these officials, but to reward or promote them and risk the integrity of the u.s. government to protect them is incomprehensible. >> current saying director john brennan and his predecessors are firing back insisting no one lied about the use of harsh techniques and no one then including president gorge w. bush was kept in the dark in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. >> in all

these are cases where the c.i.a. itself determined that it had not met the standard for detention set out in the 2001 memorandum of notification, which governs a covert action. detainees often remained in custody for months after the c.i.a. determined they should have been released. c.i.a. records provide insufficient information to justify the detention of many other detainees. due to poor record keeping, a full accounting of how many specific detainees were held and how they were specifically treated while in custody may nevadnever be known.

the c.i.a. and torture sparks passionate debate and a new alert to law enforce. in the u.s. an obama care architect apologises to congress, and elephants threatened with extinction because of the ivory trade. how terror groups may be benefitting >>> i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this", those stories and more ahead. >> coercive interrogation techniques did not produce vital intelligence. >> not only is torture wrong, it doesn't work. >> the numerous interrogations resulted in 766 disseminated reports. >> disgraced advisor jonathan gruber offering an apology. >> i made uninformed and glib promises. >> i made mean and insulting comments uncalled for. >> one in five women are assaulted in college. it's a staggering statistic. she's moving forward with a serious of changes. >> 70% of chinese people do not realise that ivory is coming from poached elephants. they think it's teeth that had fallen out. >> a man walked into a synagogue stabbing a student in the head. >> the suspect yelled "i want

it claim the c.i.a. misled the whitehouse and congress about the effectiveness and brutality of its interrogation methods. director john brennan responded to the allegations last week in a rare press conference. >> i have already stated that our reviews indicate that the detention and interrogation program produced useful intelligence that's helped the united states thwart, attack plans, capture terrorists and save lives. but let me be clear. we have not concluded that it was the use of eits within that program that allowed us to obtain useful information from detainees subjected to them. the cause and affect relationships between the use of eits and useful information subsequently provided by the detainee is in my view unknowable. >> rose: though directly involved in creating and running the program, have also come forward in defense of the agency, i'm pleased to have mike morell back at this table. because we want to have here within the time that we have a conversation about it. he comes down on this w

the c.i.a. director, who has issued a statement, saying that is not the case, that this has led to many attacked being thwarted lives being saved be but the point is, the fact this has been released now, something that may not have been possible with a republican led congress to come into play in january. it was the believe that this report needed to. co out and the mean people needed that transparency as well as the rest of the world. >> all right, thank you very much. joining us from capitol hill, crossing over to lindsay -- she is now a correspondent for al jazeera, so dianne finestein speaking earlier on, when she says that the c.i.a. torture report is too important to shelf. what happens next? [actually hearing dianne talk, it fills me with a kind of sadness, really, for the organization that i used to be a part of, i left in 2003. one of which was that the torture program at that time was in full swing, and was being talked about in the hallway, although i wasn't a part of it, what made me

and the c.i.a. will site specific cases in which it claims enhanced interrogations produced critical intelligence that stopped attacks and led to the capture or killing of key al qaeda leaders, including osama bin laden. sources say the senate report argues the c.i.a. could have found bin laden without using some of the harsh tactics, which included sleep deprivation, stress positions and the most extreme measure, waterboarding. current and former c.i.a. officials concede some mistakes were made when the detainee program was quickly launched in 2002. but they argue over time the agency made adjustments. for example, after three prisoners, abd al nashiri, abu zubaydah and 9/11 mastermind khalid sheik mohammed had all been water boarded, the c.i.a. halted the practice in 2003. now, the c.i.a. says the use of all enhanced interrogation techniques stopped in 2006 and was officially ended in 2009. but there's still an argument about the effectiveness of those harsh message. no one, scott, is openly advoca

the c.i.a. interrogation report -- >> will you explain how the president believes it is un-american to use these techniques but it was okay to ramp up the drone policy? what is the moral equivalency there? >> well, the white house's response will leave you scratching your head this morning. we promise you that. >> he was at the helm when the interrogation tactics started. >> this report says it was not successful. >> the report is full of crap. excuse me. >> dick cheney not holding back. more from the former vice president in his first tv response straight ahead. >> and then there's this. meet the congresswoman who says the c.i.a. should apologize to terrorists. that will be nice. mornings are better with friends. >> so sorry. >> it's harry connick jr. and you're watching "fox & friends." >> thanks, harry. look who's back. >> elisabeth, welcome back. it was a long wednesday. >> thanks to ainsley earhardt who was here. i was listening. we had a christmas concert yesterday for the kids so my little

he asked that the c.i.a. should no longer run the detention centers and banned the use of these interrogation techniques. later in a joint statement made in june, 2009, the eu and the united states welcomed, and i quote, the in-depth re-examination of u.s. policy on detention, transfer, and interrogation processes in combating terrorism, and greater transparency about the practices followed in the past on this policy. as well as elimination of the secret detention centers. terrorism can only be combated if we have faith in our own fundamentals, whether it's violation of human rights and the rights of law themselves can force people maybe to have recourse to terrorism. there can be no justification, however, for that kind of behavior. now, these policies are intended to fight terrorism but nonetheless they can create circumstances for its diffusion. ver the years, the your honour european union has taken specific steps in order to promote changes to u.s. policy. in 2009, for example, the european union establis