>> for the vietnamese, i think so. re is up ups and downs, but that's why i'm more optimistic that we should be taking in more refugees, syrians or otherwise, because the conditions are not fundmently different. >> rose: thank you for coming. thank you for having me. >> rose: the book, "the sympathizer," viet thanh nguyen, now in paperback. >> it is. >> rose: thank you for joining us. see you next time. >> rose: for more about this program and earlier episodes, visit us online at pbs.org and charlierose.com. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. >> you're watching pbs. >>> a kqed television production. >>> like old fisherman's wharf. reminds me of old san francisco. like jean val jean. >> theeries and cholesterol and -- calories and cholesterol and heart attack. >> like an adventure. >> it remind me of oatmeal with a

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person was the american side of this excluded the vietnameseience. i grew up with people always talking about the war. charlie: and they all felt like there since of how it impacted and change their life was not in fact did in the -- not reflected in the american experience. viet: the vietnamese refugees in the united states and fled. they knew their stories were going to be erased in vietnam and then they saw americans were not interested at all in with the south vietnamese had gone through. that was the environment i grew up in. charlie: there are many answers to this question but in essence, what was it about their lives? was it the totality of their lives was not there or was it one part of their lives? viet: i think he was the totality. many of them lost family members, identities, prestige, all of that was wrapped up in what it meant to be a refugees and then witness our children be americanized and growing up in a way that was radically different from any way they imagine their lives to be. all of that became centralized around the fact

and deep live divide the vietnamese people. me people said, yes, that is reconciliation, some people said, no, that's not reconciliation. read an op-ed in "the new york times" and said if this happened this is would actual reb come sillation. first he should to the village and apologize to survivors. give these people scholarships to the university. it's important have bob kerr glass chairman of the board of trustees for your university you want to reconcile with the past and what he did but a monument on the university to the people who died. never will happen. so five recommendations altogether, never heard back. and nothing ever died. i argue basically that it's universal that we want to remember our own humanity and forget the humanity of others and if we're good liberal wisdom want too remember our humanity the humanity of others. for h the most difficult thing to do and thing that could actually move us towards peace and reconciliation is to remember our humanity, and our inhumanity. this is what makes us human beings. we

totally excluded the vietnamese experience. with the enemies people who were always talking about the war. charlie: and they all felt like there since of how it impacted and changed their life was not reflected in the american experience. viet: absolutely not. they feared their histories would be forgotten. the vietnamese refugees in the united states had fled from vietnam. they knew their stories were going to be erased in vietnam and then they saw americans were , not interested at all in with -- what the south vietnamese had gone through. they feared their children would go and forget them. that was the environment i grew up in. charlie: this is a multi--- there are many answers to this question but in essence, what was it about their lives? was it the totality of their lives was not there or was it one part of their lives? viet: i think it was about the totality. they had lost the war, lost the country many of them lost family , members, identities, prestige, all of that was wrapped up in what it meant to be a refugee in the

and really deeply divide the vietnamese people. some people said, yes, that's reconciliation, some people said, no, that's not. i wrote an on offed, i saidnd this -- bob kerry should go to the village and apologize to survivors. give theme people scholarships to the university. if it's important to have bob kerry that's chairman of the broader bashed of trustees for the university and you want to reconcile with the past and what he did, put a monument on the grounds of the universal to the people who died. never heard back. and the overall -- michigan ever -- nothing ever dies i argue that it's universal that we want to remember our owne humanity and forget the humanity of others and if we're go liberals way want to remember our humanity and the humanity of others.the for the most difficult thing to do and thing i think could actually move us towards peace and reconciliation is to remember our humanity, and our inhumanity. this is what makes is human beings. we like to think, you know, war is savage, brutal, something that the evil,

he's a communist spy in the south vietnamese army, educated in the united states.'s able to sympathize with everybody. and, of course, as a communist, he's also potentially labeled as a stiezer. so that word has two meanings for the narrator. and so the theme of sympathy, of what it means to be able to not only sympathize with the people we love and we care for, but to sympathize with our enemies, that's what he struggles with throughout his entire story. >> rose: "patriots day" is a new film from writer-director peter berg. it depicts the 2013 bombing of the boston marathon and the manhunt that followed. mark wahlberg leads the cast in the role of a boston police sergeant, and much of the storyline is drawn from the experiences of former police commissioner ed davis. >> the question was is it too soon? and then we realized that it's really not soon enough if you, you know, every day you turn on the news or you open up a newspaper there's another attack somewhere. and, you know, so we felt we wanted to promote that message which, you know, love will always win. and

the boulevards and many of the buildings are french, but its heart and soul is always, always vietnamesecoming here as tourists for the first time, especially veterans of the war, are shocked by how friendly the place is. people are genuinely happy to see you. this is hanoi's old quarter, but it's looking less and less old these days. man, this area's changed, though. the irish/czech-themed pub next door. vietnam is a young country. almost half of vietnamese are under the age of 30. fewer every year even remember what they call here "the american war." those years were a defining time for just about everyone, vietnamese or american, who lived through them. and though there are still a lot of conflicted feelings back home, for most vietnamese these days, the war has become an abstraction, not even a memory. vietnam is still a poor nation, but the standard of living has improved a lot with the relaxing of hard-line communist economic policies. more and more foreign tourists every year, western chains, inevitably, are everywhere, and president obama is visiting for the first time, taking an

eventually the vietnamese invaded and they ended it and it's a shame of the united states when the vietnamese did that we continued to recognize diplomatically the palpot government which is completely horrible. i think that's one of the situations where there wasn't a good option. i think politically speaking there was no military option. you would have had to -- i don't know what you could have done mill sterile apart from -- militarily apart from bomb which we had done a great deal already which helped cause the installation -- the victory of the kamaruge. that's a very hard question. brian: if you worked for george herbert walker bush and the original desert shield and all that business and kuwait was invaded by saddam hussein and he said mark danner, what should i do? mark: i'm actually on record about that. i was writing as a writer at "the new yorker" a staff writer and did their comments, a series of comments at the front of the magazine which is their editorials and they were unsigned at the time -- i think most of them were unsigned anyway. and my view was that bush's initial instin

we are dealing with the vietnamese government to increase our stake and that is where we are. >> do theypositively on this? >> it is difficult. it is a process. we have first right of refusal. they recognize that. the conversations are going on. anna: the carlsberg ceo. philip shaw is still with us. we heard from one company that is still betting on russia and eastern europe. we have an interest rate decision due from russia today. ranking the currencies by performance. three months performance of the emerging market currencies. a good performance from the russian ruble. amazing what a high oil price can do. been very weaks and fundamentally very overvalued. we are seeing a return in confidence in the russian economy. some stabilization in the economy even though the monthly gdp numbers are still negative in the year on year terms. the surveys have been improving. against that background, it is not surprising to see a recovery in the ruble. anna: oil is a factor. we have this interest rate decision today. what are the economies in the emerging markets that you are watching? trump, istron

from watergate and the vietnamese war to the fall of the berlin wall.achments, the gulf war, and most recently, the world trade center attacks and our war on terrorism. i'm particularly proud to have been part of reorganizing our state department, helping to free some political prisoners in mozambique in cuba, the soviet union, and other nations, fighting the war against drugs, accounting for our mias and pows, working to limit world hunger, extraditing criminals in foreign lands, and establishing an international scholarships program. in looking back it's been especially gratifying to see how much along with many of my colleagues and staffs, how much we've accomplished in promoting peace in northern ireland and in afghanistan and india and pakistan, sri lanka and the middle east and knowing that after i leave here that my colleagues' good work with continue in those directions. knowing that our work is not done, i look ahead with optimism for opportunities which may arise for me to be able to contribute to make a difference. i thank my staff, many of w

he's said to admire the china model, or perhaps even the vietnamese model. but i think that's been stopped by the presence of his brother, fidel castro, who's still alive, and then the old guard, which kind of back up fidel. but he has done a few things. i think one of the things that's sort of been overlooked, which i consider to be extremely important, was when he got rid of this ban on cubans being able to stay at hotels, tourist hotels and tourist resorts, because that was a really sore point for a lot of cubans. >> hinojosa: well, because it was like apartheid within your own country, right? >> right. but that's gone now. in fact, in the first few weeks, there are a few journalists who have offices over at the hotel nacional, and one of them went to chat, and about half of the people staying at the hotel were cubans. >> hinojosa: oh, my god. >> yeah. >> hinojosa: just because they could, they wanted to stay in the hotel nacional. >> "oh, let's go stay in the hotel now." >> hinojosa: so this image, fidel castro passes away, and there's havoc in havana, an

want the north vietnamese to reach the point i might do anything to stop the war.the war to them. nixon obsessed about communism. we can't restrain him when he is angry and has his hand on the nuclear button. how does that apply? >> it applies all over the world. people think donald trump is crazy. he is crazy like a fox was his opponents underestimate him at their own peril and across the world. of the iranians think they can get away with breaking the nuclear agreement they will break the nuclear agreement. of the us doesn't need to be involved in syrian peace stocks, they want to involve the united states and all around the world. we have seen it in china. china has been aggressively moving into the south china sea because they don't think there will be meaningful consequences for the united states for their act of aggression. russia interfering in our election and if these adversaries of the united states believe we may get hit pretty hard or we may get bombed or electorate may get shut down, they may be deterred from messing with us. bill: is that why the chin

from watergate and the vietnamese war to the fall of the berlin wall.two presidential impeachments, the gulf war, and most recently, the world trade center attacks and our war on terrorism. i'm particularly proud to have been part of reorganizing our state department, helping to free some political prisoners in mozambique in cuba, the soviet union, and other nations fighting the war against drugs, , accounting for our mias and pows, working to limit world hunger extraditing criminals in , foreign lands and establishing , an international scholarships program. in looking back it's been especially gratifying to see how much along with many of my colleagues and staffs, how much we've accomplished in promoting peace in northern ireland and in afghanistan and india and pakistan, sri lanka and the middle east and knowing that after i leave here that my colleagues' good work with continue in those directions. knowing that our work is not done i look ahead with optimism , for opportunities which may arise for me to be able to contribute contribute to make a dif

>> well i got a little bit with the congress and a little bit with indochina and the vietnamese. ttle of it all over the country. i thought i would call you and get a little advice and inspiration. >> the miller center specializes in studying the institution of the presidency. we apply the lessons of history to contemporary public policy challenges, helping to understand and shape the modern presidency. our scholars conducted comprehensive oral histories for every administration since president carter, creating a living network of the most senior officials who have led our executive branch. the miller center brings the lessons of history to life and connects the past to the future. >> to dive into this, we have assembled three panels today that combine the terrific expertise of our own scholars but also partners like the brookings institution. in putting together this project, we have articles written by over 10 scholars across brookings particularly from where i had the pleasure of being a senior fellow here. our thanks to darrell and his home team. one of my colleagues, the firs

. >> her son and daughter run the mtv vietnamese cafe. the cobblestones are a turn off for prospective customers. >> we worry about the business. >> reporter: not just the mess. you think it can cost you business. >> the business. not only ours but the business people on the block. >> reporter: the streets department tells us peco is actually responsible for restoring the 100 block of chestnut to its former glory. we'll keep an eye on both projects here and there to make sure they're done properly much this is not how things should look especially in a tourist area. dawn? >> not at all. thanks, bruce. >>> developing to night, president obama orders a review of hacking in the presidential election. he repairs to leave the oval office, president obama just asked intelligence officials to conduct a review of election season cyber attacks including the e-mail hacks. us intelligence officials accuse russia of hackin hacking the e-f democratic officials and the clinton campaign. the crem blinn denying these accusations. the white house says fore

and that black americans felt about the vietnamese war. >> what happens now to his title? he lost the heart of his athletic career because he refused to fight in vietnam. now, that doesn't make him nelson mandela, but it was something. and it was striking to many americans that he not only had beliefs, but he stood up for them. >> i'm not sure that there's anybody left, really, for you to fight. >> you. >> that may come about some day. thank you for coming on. >> stay in shape. i have wrestled with an alligator. i done tussled with a whale. i done handcuffed lightning, threw thunder in jail. >> in 1974, ali/foreman in the country of zaire, the "rumble in the jungle." >> the people chant "ali bomaye," that means "ali, kill him." >> the whole thing is captured in a remarkable film called "when we were kings." >> too much speed for them. too fast. >> at the time everyone thinks foreman is going to obliterate him. instead, ali goes up against the ropes, he covers up, and foreman just wails at him. rope-a-dope. he tired foreman out. >> taking advantage of foreman's hit. >> ali p

they have to worry about competition from koreans and chinese and even from the vietnamese and othersasia where the dynamic is so changed. so, how do they stay competitive? so, japan's relationship with the united states is key. so, is united states' relationship with japan because united states, forget the political rhetoric, whateve you think of the tpp or anything se, the united states of america does a lot of business exporting and engaging and buying from japan and from all of asia. so, what you pay at k-mart or brookstone or wherever you shop, and whatever they buy, wherever they're buying it, including agriculture, there's a lot, a lot on the line here. so, that's part of this very delicate dance. and where this goes when donald trump is president is very much in flux. >> it will be fascinating to see them today and the relationship develop in the days and months and years ahead. >>> president-elect trump vacationing at hi mar-a-lago resort. here to help break it down, washington bureau chief for washington "sun-times." lynn, let's start with "the wall street journal" today. th

we worked with the vietnamese to protect ourselves. then there was an influx of immigration. a good thing for our country. i'm not saying that's going to happen here. we know we need their help. we have to figure out a way to do both. >> i think we need this on several levels, in terms of people in the muslim community and in terms of muslim states in the global war. i wanted to make a mention. i went to broadway plays this week. i've been walking around the neighborhood, if you will. the new york city police have out now people with automatic weapons, bullet proof vests and the like, added security, added count ee eerterrorism on the gr. in particular, protecting against the possibility of that kind of drive-by or -- >> how about -- >> they would use guns. my goodness, juan. i thought yesterday you were telling me guns wereç responsie for more horrible -- >> they are. >> thank god we have them. >> no, no. i like law and order. i have no problem with that. >> what about when law enforcement isn't there? what about a responsible citizen armed who can protect -- >> like the on

eventually, the vietnamese invaded, and they ended it. continued to recognize diplomatically the pol pot government, which is completely horrible. that is one of those situations where there was not a good option. speaking,olitically there was no military option. you would have had to, i don't know what you could have done militarily apart from bomb, which of course, we had done a great deal of already, which helped cause the installation. the victim of the time your rouge. -- the khymer rouge. said, "mark danner, what should i do?" guest: i'm on record about that. , a seriesr comments of comments at the front of the magazine and i think most of mym were outside anyway, view was that bush's initial , a boycott, which was wilson's original idea, who we started with, i thought that was the way to go. war war, the post-cold the first major conflict and we have this first major conflict with a country that relies, for its entire life, on one export, oil. oil, we canop the nonviolently strangle the country enforce them -- if we have a little b

on a bombing mission he was shot down and seriously injured and captured by the north vietnamese . risoner of war until 1973, having refused a repatriation offer. elected to the u.s. house of representatives in 1982, senator mccain served two terms and then was first elected in the united states senate in 1986. congratulations. appropriate is it to have this great american hero, statesmen, and patriot here today at the national world war ii memorial to commemorate pearl harbor remembrance day. senator john mccain. [applause] mccain: thank you. thank you very much and thanks for that kind introduction. i'm honored to be here today with all of our members of our greatest generation and all of our friends and supporters. i think it's worthy of the presence of our governor, former member of congress and vice president-elect might -- elect mike pence. thank you for being here and continuedfor your service. mike has a son who is a naval aviator. unlike me, his son's landings would match the number of takeoffs. so it is a privilege to be here and join you in commemorating the events of dec

nixon used it to get the north vietnamese to the table by making them think he'd use nuclear weapons to defeat communism. >> madman theory is to basically use unpredictable, seemingly brash, bravado, over-escalation to get the other side to fall off its positions. >> reporter: trump has used similar questions about how he would handle foreign computations. refusing to rule out nuclear weapons. >> i can't take anything off the table. >> reporter: calling for ban on muslims. >> total and complete shut down of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> and most recently taking a call from the president of taiwan. a break from with diplomatic tradition billed as a calculated ploy for leverage. >> i don't know why we have to be bound by one policy unless we make a deal with china doing with other things. like a deal with trade or. >> reporter: and saying not to corner his adversary. >> you have to give them a way out. if you have a zero-sum game, along with a highly risky, roll the dice, look at me, means of -- you a

. >> reporter: last year trump ridiculed mccain for being captured by the north vietnamese during the vietnam war. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that were about captured, okay? i hate too tell you -- >> there is a body of heros that i'd like to see him retract that statement. not about me but about the others. >> but trump not backing down. >> i don't like the job yom is doing in the senate because he's not taking care of the veterans. >> reporter: mccain pledging his support for james mattis. mccain now says he will pick his battles with the new president. >> we have all kinds of challenges and my time is devoted to trying to make sure this nation is secured, not to comment on every comment of mr. trump's. >> reporter: one he's been working closely with is senator schumerer. in the last few years they worked very closely together. and now they are very close allies despite being in opt political parties. and on russia in particular.pose political parties. and on russia in particular. . as trump tries to move his agenda he'll have to win over not just repub

on a bombing mission he was shot , down and seriously injured and captured by the north vietnamese . he was a prisoner of war until 1973, having refused a added sequence early repatriation offer. he retired from the u.s. navy as a captain in 1981. elected to the u.s. house of representatives in 1982, senator mccain served two terms and then he was first elected in the united states senate in 1986. winning reelection easily five 2016. most recently in congratulations, sir. how appropriate is it to have this great american hero, statesmen, and patriot here today at the national world war ii memorial to commemorate pearl harbor remembrance day. ladies and gentlemen, from the great state of arizona senator , john mccain. [applause] >> thank you, very much. well, thank you. thanks for that kind introduction. [applause] >> i'm honored to be here today with all of our members of our greatest generation and all of our friends and supporters. i think it's worthy of mentioning again the presence of our governor, former member of congress and vice president-elect mike pence. [applause] >> thank

what nixon did with the north vietnamese that lead them to believe he was so erratic, he could do anythinghe might use a nuclear bomb and that might bring them to the negotiating table. whether those rules are applicable to finally balanced things, not just terrorism, but the china question. does unpredictability pay dividends? >> is it disruptive and does it throw everyone for a loop and make everyone nervous and close their doors? >> it is throwing the chinese for a loop and i don't think the government knew how to handle this and the phone call that president-elect trump made with the leader and its unpredictability and it might be what the presidency becomes. >> lots of questions. maybe donald trump will answer questions. >> we are watching and will bring it to you live. they will be receiving. his connections to russia. we'll be right back. to do the best for your pet, you should know more about the food you choose. with beyond, you have a natural pet food that goes beyond telling ingredients to showing where they come from. beyond assuming the source is safe... to knowing it is. beyo

the slave trade. three people arrested at this business all well vietnamese. 68 businesses were warned they could be fined for immigration offences. there were 97 or arrest as michael arrests. officers identified 14 michael arrests. officers identified 1a potential victims of slavery. many were brought here illegally and then force into servitude to pay off massive debts to the traffickers. people were not kept in dungeons or anything like that but there was a lwa ys anything like that but there was always a control element, they are being controlled by traffickers, theirfamilies are being controlled by traffickers, their families are being threatened back home. it is those circumstances we have to try and overcome to include people to come forward, tell us include people to come forward, tell us about experiences and bring the traffickers to justice. another raid on another south london nail bar. two people were arrested here, a fourth had been deported. the government said modern slavery is our barbaric crime and is sending out strong message it will not be

nixon was conspiring to safely talk with the south vietnamese and telling them to reject any peace overture from linda and john king. johnson found out about this and did use the word treason. he was talking -- and really talking to a summit on the phone who is an ally of nixon. if you listen to johnson's white house tapes, you'll notice that he starts a lot when he talks. it will always stand out to me from that research. lbj did consider using the logan act, but they did not fully have the evidence they needed to go public with that and not the point he decided it would be very bad for the country if the new president was coming in with this hanging over his head and kept it to himself. perhaps americans would've known better what they were getting it to have that come out. but they learned eventually. >> joseph mccarthy, that era and the name ray cohen comes to mind. did you write about him? he it turns out was a big time mentor to our president elect. >> i did not. i believe he got mentioned only in passing because in this mishap chapter about the mccarthy era and have you no sense of d

nixon used it to get the north vietn vietnamese to the table. >> madman theory is to basically use unpredictablebrash, bravado, overescalation to get the other side to fall of its positions. >> trump has used similar questions about how he would handle foreign confrontations. refusing to rule out nuclear weapons. >> i can't take anything off the table. >> calling for a ban on muslims. >> a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> and most recently taking the call from the president of taiwan a break with diplomatic tradition billed as a calculated ploy for leverage. >> unless we make a deal with china. having to do with other things including trade. >> but some warn about taking the madman approach too far. >> you have to give them a way out. if you have a zero sum game along with a highly risky roll the dice, look at me means, you are going to sooner or later run into very, very serious trouble. >> some call it a dangerous guam bit in a world craving stability. >> no question there's a tim

. >> reporter: her son and daughter run the mtq vietnamese cafe on this block. the screwed up street is not helping business in this tourist district. >> it doesn't look pretty and i really think it will stop them from passing by. >> reporter: the tourists are not going to come in here if they look at the mess. >> i think it will stop them. we really think so. >> reporter: streets department tells me peco is actually responsible for restoring the 100 block of chestnut street. we will keep an eye on both projects. this is not the look or frankly the ride that visitors or locals should have to put up with. dawn? >> not at all. thank you, bruce. >>> they are the hottest toy of the season but good luck finding one. where you might be able to get a hatchimal this weekend if you're willing to stand in line. >> tell me where. tell me where. >> i need two of them. >>> have you seen this? it's an ad that has a whole lot of parents talking a happy hour play set for kids complete with beer bottles? what fisher price is telling parents tonight. plus -- >>> it's hank i'm just

the people that brought them here. three people were arrested at this business, all of them were vietnamese. agnifier. as a result, 68 businesses were warned they could be fined for immigration offences, 97 arrests, and officers identified ia potential victims of slavery. many of them are brought here illegally and forced into rarely do we see people kept in dungeons or anything like that but there is always a control element, they have been deceived to come here, controlled by traffickers, families may be threatened, back home, it is those circumstances we have to overcome to encourage people to come forward and tell us about experiences and help bring the traffickers to justice. another raid on another south london nail bar, two were arrested here and will be deported, a third may have been forced to work here and is being investigated. the government says modern slavery is a barbaric crime and it is sending a strong message that it won't be tolerated. the film industry and fans around the world have paid tribute to carrie fisher who's died aged 60. the actress, who was best known for her r

eventually the vietnamese invaded and they ended it and it's a shame of the united states when the vietnameseid that we continued to recognize diplomatically the pol pot government which is completely vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti vanzetti horrible. i think that's one of the situations where there wasn't a good option. i think politically speaking there was no military option. militarily apart from bomb which we had done a great deal already which helped cause the installation -- the victory of the kamaruge. that's a very hard question. brian: if you worked for george herbert walker bush and the original desert shield and all that business and kuwait was invaded by saddam hussein and he said mark danner, what should i , do? mark: i'm actually on record about that. i was writing as a writer at "the new yorker" a staff writer and did their comments, a series of comments at the front of the magazine which is their editorials and they were unsigned at the time -- i think most of them were unsigned anyway. and my view wa

>> i got a little bit in the congress, a little bit with china, the vietnamese and a little bit all overry and i just thought i'd call you and try to get a little advice and a little inspiration. >> the miller center specializes in studying the institution of the presidency. we apply the lessons of history to contemporary public policy challenges helping to understand and shape the modern presidency. our scholars have conducted comprehensive oral histories for every administration since president carter, creating a living network of the most senior officials who have led our executive branch. the miller center brings the lessons of history to life and connects the past to the future. ♪ >> so to dye into this we've assembled three panels today that combine the terrific expertise of our own scholars but also partners like the brookings institution. i think in putting together this project we've had essays written by almost ten scholars across brookings, particularly from government studies where i had the pleasure of being a senior fellow here. our great thanks to darrel and his whole team

knew the cia knew he had been trying to win his election by having a back channel talk with the south vietnamese peace talks johnson wanted to start. he promised somehow or the campaign did, if if you do this deal, i will give you a bert deal. so he thought that he should not be bad to the cia or they will say something. he never said anything. obviously, they -- as i said before, the cia has made mistakes. but they have done extraordinary things. they are professionals. you have to work with them. a lot will be there. what does it do to morale to do this? i hope he pulls back on the cia and mentioning wmb. >> i think that larger issue -- we have been nibbling around -- there's this information threat to the u.s. and a lot of it comes from russia. what are we going to do about it? what happened when the berlin wall fell is it was the end of history for us. we retreated. the russians realized, the wall fell without firing a shot. it fell because of the information revolution that the u.s. pioneered. they started building up. they started building up television stations throughout the periphery. t