they may not have known quite when they were going. people that manage these operations have to make sure they are ready to go and they are fresh. they need to be at optimum physical capabilities. a lot of things have to go on. whereas the seals are getting front and center on this, there was a huge team of people that put those guys on target, from analyst to trainers to some very talented aviators that took them there. the seals are getting credit for it, but there was a huge team that put this gather -- together to get these guys on target. >> how much of what happened could have been seen on television on closed-circuit? how much of the on-site event could have been televised all the way back to washington on a closed-circuit, secure system? >> i am just guessing, but probably all of it. they have a lot of communication capabilities that are very robust. we have a lot of capabilities in this area in real-time video and audio communication. i am sure there is a good deal of it that is on tape and is being reviewed. >> they did say i

they have what i call logorrhea dementia which is they talk so much they drive themselves insane. [laughter] but they do have incredible social skills. when you meet them by and large they will stand request u.n. they will invite -- invade your personal space and brother back of your head and caress your cheek. i had dinner with a republican senator a few years ago and he kept his hand on my side at all times just for emphasis. several years ago i was up in the senate race gallery and i'm watching dan quayle and ted kennedy read each other in the well of the senate and they gave each other these big hugs and their faces are like so far apart that they are laughing and groping and their hands are rubbing up and down each other's backs and they are grinding away there. i was like, get a round. i don't want to see this. [laughter] another story i tell which is a bit of name dropping but you will forgive me. i call it reporting. i'm going for a hotel in boston a couple of years ago when bill clinton comes out of one of the elevators and he starts praising me for a column i had written

they went for a few hours, and they came back, they said, "we couldn't find that mullah." he ordered the judge, "as soon as you saw that mullah, beat him up in front of everybody." >> narrator: najibullah wasn't allowed to film the meetings between the taliban and khan, but he was able to interview some taliban fighters about their relationship with khan's men, who they referred to as al qaeda. >> narrator: as the taliban fighters waited around while the leaders talked, they sought inspiration by listening to mp3s of their favorite afghan clerics. >> narrator: as days passed, the atmosphere around khan's fighters became more threatening. although seemingly in jest, khan and his men would pretend to fire their weapons at najibullah. >> narrator: then, one night, as he was filming a convoy, the men stopped for a moment, and khan started complaining about all the filming. and his deputy issued a direct threat to najibullah. >> narrator: and there would be more danger to come. >> narrator: the next day, najibullah attempted to film a disturbing scene. as khan and his men grabb

they don't know what they will find. they are so well rehearsed so many times tis a routine drill for them. that doesn't mean they will not have something unexpected there. but they go in with necessarily explosives to breach what they encounter when they get on a target and go in with all kinds of contingency and they had to use those contingency. once they hit the ground, there is zero chance bin laden or anybody else will get away from them. >> when you talk about all of the preparation. tell me what is lukely to happen. you directed the mission and personly have been involved in the execution and on the ground with special forces . i want you to tell me when they got off of the helicopter, what would be the assignments that they are carrying out. >> some for security. security from any kind of external threat and internally. recollects would have been assigned to go to the most like low place where bin laden would be. i think their plan was to fast rope right in on top of the building there with an expectation that b

they look the same. they tasted different. how did you put all your different sensory reactions together? and he suggested there was this commonsense that combined the five and left you distinguished things but also put together what was sweet and white was the sugar and what was a little bitter and white and granular was the salt, if that makes any sense. we have different explanations for that now. it's really fallen entirely out of psychology and brain science. but it lasts a long time the idea that there was a commonsense through the middle ages. >> so the glorious revolution in england happens in 1688. >> yes. >> who introduced the political commonsense? >> there's not a great book of commonsense but the term started to have as the old idea declined it started to have a more casual sense of -- much like today, things you just happen to know. either things you knew or the faculty for figuring them out, every day perception. and after the glorious revolution, there's lots of angry zywhat are we going to do about preventing

they cannot put me on trial in madison in wisconsin, so they took me to the south of carolina, and they put me on trial in strom thurmond federal courthouse in charleston, south carolina. across the street was the confederate cemetery. from the courthouse, they flew two flags -- the u.s. flag and the confederate battle flag, which was the state flag of south carolina. from the court room, i could look out the window and seaport sumter in the distance -- see fort sumter. they put me on a case with no marijuana. they invented imaginary marijuana. they said i was charged with conspiring to contribute 10 tons of colombian marijuana. i pled not guilty. i had a jury trial. i was found guilty on one account, acquitted on nine. i had an appellate case and the supreme court case. i was then facing 15 years. since may to nine. when i went to federal prison, i did time in eight different states in nine different federal prisons, including four penitentiaries -- that is a maximum security. including the united states penitentiary at marion, the first super federal max. that is on a marijuana conven

they drove a lot of them out of new york where they could get control of the area. they were harsh. when adams was in power, they passed the alien insedition agents to stamp out criticism of the president. now, that goes too far, and it was struck down, but nevertheless, that's kind of what they were thinking. i think the issue in the revolution is more like this. you have one-third of the people called loyalists who want to stay with the king. you got one-third of the people called revolutionaries wanting to separate, and one-third who don't give a crap one way or another. they don't care. they want to be left alone, and, of course, you can't be left alone, and sooner or later you have to choose sides. i like the famous line, and i think it applies to what we're doing for example in iraq or afghanistan. he said his job as manager was to make sure the one-third of the players who hated him stayed away from the one-third who didn't care one way or the other; right? that's where we are in iraq. if we can keep the 10%-20% of the people who hate us away from the 70% or 80% who don't car

they have a foundation of what to talk with when they talk to the people. like gary says, as policemen, our whole job is relationships. showing the people that trust we build. even one hour or two hours a day, it will still make a difference. >> how you think your men did today? did they talk with the people? were there any problems? anything you would have them do differently? >> today was very good because the people -- give them -- they are happy now. that is very good. >> roads and -- >> as policemen, i would encourage them to use the sub- governor for that. security issues. we have to talk to the chief. when it comes to issues within the populace or, him as a police officer would do good by talking to the sub-governor. >> i believe it's my number one task to stand up the afghan national security forces through training, partnership, side by side, shoulder to shoulder operations so that, like i told you, you cannot have an effective government and development and a counterinsurgency without first securing the people. they are much more effective at it t

they were icons, if you will. they moved. what may not be as clear to people is what companies are located in silicon valley and brisbane that are not here. i would have thought they would have moved here first, but they are not here. when you look at those companies like google or hp or other silicon valley's, that is why i went down to talk to the silicon valley leadership forum. there ceo's -- their ceo's had a chance to coordinate with us. they were telling us why they would not moving to san francisco. that gave me another agenda that is not corporate welfare. what can we attract here for them? the key is education. we've got to have an intelligent work force that keeps them wanting to be here. that is the number-one thing. that is why i investing so much time in creating a strong connection with our city college, school district. they've got to make sure we have a very integrated education system. that will be a key for many years to come. they tell us in no uncertain terms that they come here because these are the best

sometimes they run perfectly, times they done.to produce the action we had, you know, last night, it takes 20, 25 years of training and operation. now, the decision to create these joint operation forces i think is a big part of it. a lot of work since 9/11 has been done to train and prepare people for this operation. it didn't just happen that president obama makes a decision to call these guys and say we want you to go on this op. there's been an awful lot of work to bring them to this day. the quality of the people into the teams have been suburb. they had a great opportunity, thanks to good intelligence, to be able to run test operations against a building they had built at a prototype. so an awful lot of people had their hands in this thing to make it possible, but chris, the thing you have to remember, and both bob and mike were talking about it earlier, tomorrow they could go on another operation and it fails, will we call them up before congress and ask what went wrong? we're celebrating their heroism and success, but ofte

we have to see if they can execute the things the way they say they can. host: the wall street journal this morning talks about the jobs report. they discuss self-employed workers. factor that into unemployment. guest: i wrote about this late yesterday. if you take those into account, it does not include the same workers exactly. with the unemployment rate picked up, it does not include self-employed workers. those industries shed jobs in april. take those out of the equation, then you see some job growth from the worst number that made the unemployment rate pick up. host: philadelphia, go ahead. caller: i have a couple of questions for your guest. why do we over-complicate things? it seems a simple to me. when you are struggling with the debt in your home, what do you do? he looked to get a second job and increase revenue. you look at the revenue side. we have had the highest amount of revenue profit generated by corporate america and we are not looking at an increase in the revenue side. there is a correlation between the tax cuts and tax break not creat

they know that they don't need terror. they don't need to kill themselves until oer people can get rid of their dictators and to change their futures. one of the things that i've... was in my mind is that we know there was cable t.v. in that compound. (laughter) and i'm sort of wondering how osama bin laden was consuming the news out of tahrir square a couple months ago where you were what it must have felt for him. on the one hand these were the regimes he wanted himself to topple. on the other hand, the people in the square were not carrying his picture. and were not chanting his slogans. so i would have... many other places and "new york times" the world where i'd love to be a fly on the wall, that would have been one. i would have wanted to know how osama bin laden saw this picture and what affected the. >> williams: doris, this is personal for you in an important way. what happened in your house on 9/12. >> i have a son, as you know, joey, my youngest child, who graduated from harvard college in june right before 9/11

they knew they had to get in and out because they had not told pakistani military they were coming and they were exposed that way. as i understand it, they were 40 minutes on the ground. when they found bin laden in this rambling house this huge million-dollar mansion, they told him to surrender, drop his weapons, he did not do that and they killed him. because that was the training. as martha raddatz my colleague reports it was two taps to the head. that's trade craft for two shots to the head for fear that he might be wearing some kind of a suicide bomb vest. >> rose: so once he didn't respond to the drop his weapons, that's when they shot him? >> that's when they shot him. there was no more consideration. >> rose: it was not, then, a cross fire of any kind? >> as far as we know it was not. there was a fe fight, descbed by theresint, a after that fire fight they... the president said they killed him. and we're told that's because he refused to surrender. >> rose: and the burial at sea? first there was islamic ritual and practice? i'm hold that saudi arabia refused to accept him even

they said they had been unlawfully killed in a dreadful act of terrorism. they looked at how london and some of the victims responded to a long-feared attack. the bereaved families have taken the 60-page report culminating in a clutch of recommendations. >> whatever is written, whatever has been said, it can help people in the future had one would hope a recommendation is affected. they do not bring my son back. >> a major part of the request focused on the response. the highlighted delays in dispatching fire and ambulance crews. >> should we have had more resources to those things, yes we should. >> they just said on the balance of probabilities, each would have died at whatever time the emergency services have reached and rescue them. >> of the daughter was one of those that did not die instantly. >> could there have been fights? she might have had the chance. >> of the other big area was the role of the security service. on whether the attacks could have been prevented. the final image >> 2 of them have come out of more than a year before they were set o

they put eight and a half million people to work. they built roads. they sewed clothes. they built roads is in san francisco. this one, i have seen them on sidewalks in san francisco. this is on a retains wall in crocket. they are very seldom markers. cw a doesn't. pw a, almost never. not nearly commiserate with what they were doing. that's one of the restrooms in golden gate park. that's a plaque, carefully hidden. the gardeners prune the vine so you can have a chance of finding it. here's one at park and mont clar. they are using a facility that was built by that. finally, the public works is not well known, but should be. they gave grants and loans for dams and sewage. sewage treatment. airports et cetera. hopkins couldn't stand each other. and were constantly battling. they kicked the construction industry back to good health. the upper right one is the alameda park station. they could not aid the private agencies. alameda had its own electrical system. these are various projects. los angeles storm drain system. they raised the dam. your water is a product of pw a. t

the lesson they learned was not one they expected.l finney is here. >> everyone remembers the first saving's account . kids will. they took the birthday checks and money and put it in the bank waiting for it to grow. what happened to the money. >> it was a milestone in their lives leslyy smart took three children to open up the first savings account. >>ed idea of saving your money. >> it was exciting to be in the bank. >> they broughtt their piggy backs and had pass book accounts in 2007. >> first time i deposited my money i only had two dollars . >> it was money gleanned from a lemonade sale and cookie. >> and money for my birthday or christmas. >> if they kept the money in the bank it would grow and groww. in january, they went to the bank to deposit christmas checks and banking reality hit. >> my account was gone. >> i was losing mon yenot gaining money. >> my bank account was gone and it was not there anymore and i didn't have any money. >> their money was shrinking. the bank told leslie that the accounts didn't exist anymore. >>

they say they reject the notion that it is flawed. >> they are lying when they say they fixed their computer's not clear how many have committed crimes since being released. >> when you have a person released on some sort of parole you are always worried that person will commitment that type of crime again. >> reporter: state senator is calling for a halt of the program. at san quentin, rob roth, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> breaking news in east oakland. we will bring you live pictures. you can see there is a lot of thick, black smoke from a fire on burr street. 9800 block. you can bet that people from all around east oakland are seeing the smoke. this fire is across interstate 580 from the oakland zoo. now you know the area we are talking about. this is a densely populated residential area. lots of buildings. two stories at least. fire crews are on the scene. you saw an active fire burning, lot of thick, black smoke and a lot of buildings in that area. it did rain in oakland earlier today. if that is helping, we don't know. we will try to get you more information and get it to you as soon as w

they are part of the wildlife in the city. they are here. they have been there for awhile. the city has worked hard to educate people on how to interact with coyotes. for example, not feeding them. not getting them comfortable with being around people, etc. a few weeks ago, there was a pack of coyotes, between 4 and 6, that was spotted a couple of times. it was not your typical siding. typically, when the young thai dod is it to a certain age, they get driven off -- when the young thai use it to a certain age, they get driven off by the pack. there was some kind of food source that was keeping them together as a pack. there were a couple of sightings. we have not had any in a couple of weeks. we're trying to educate people. i have sent several e-mails about it. in may, up we will have a program on understanding in these. -- tie yogis reachingcoyo -- coyotes. we're trying to relocate them. it usually does not work. when you call fish and game, their solution is often to shoot the animal. it is not an easy situation. we are committed to making sure that people who live around

they got their check, they put it right back into the house like they said they would do, and it helped them stay in their house. now fast forward three years, and we see that fema writes them a letter, what i would call a demand letter where they are requesting that they repay all of this money and that they have 30 days to repay the balance of the debt that they owe to fema. this, of course, is a big shock to them because they were assured repeatedly that they had a legitimate claim and that fema encouraged them to file this claim and they got the money and they thought everything was great with it. what's happened here is these -- this couple, like many others in our state, this couple built their home down on the river, and they knew that it could possibly flood one day. when they built it, they bought flood insurance. after years of paying flood insurance and they were flooded, after years of paying flood insurance, the flood insurance company said they weren't going to carry flood insurance anymore. they actually went to lloyd's of london and bought flood insurance for their prope

if they are here illegally, they should be sent back where they came from. guest: that is a very common thought. one thing that has happened is that our immigration debate h gotten a little bit emotional and we are not focus on really what is practical and doable. it is not realistic to deport all the 11 million undocumented immigrants and it is not beneficial for us do that. we're talking to kids who have grn up here. they were brought here by their parents at a young age. ou have to be -- it is important to be a little bit nuanced and think about what is better for america and what is right and good for these kids and not try to make blanket statements. regardless of whether they will cure a disease or win the nobel prize, we still don't want them to be here because they are illegal immigrants. host: we mentioned in 12 states active in this area. speak to us more about the growth of this idea. and different states acting and this trend. guest: they are red states and blue states and have republican governors and democratic governors and republican legislat

what are they saying about al qaeda? they say all the evidence they have, that the u.s. government has, is that al qaeda is still interested in attacking the united states. they are combing through the intell jnls for any clues about current plots and plans, and of course, they are looking very carefully to see who emerges as the next leader of al qaeda. >> barbara starr, thanks so much at the pentagon. so the bin laden videos will undoubtedly be of interest to people of afghanistan as well. >> from video showing his well groom eed i78age to the one whe he looks like an old man, it's a different peek at his world. >> stan, give us an idea of what people are thinking and saying as a result of the videos that are going out. >> you know, we haven't had a chance to put it the people directly yet, but one of the things they were saying to me over the past week is that bin laden has always presented himself as an invincible figure. this is someone who had loomed so large over the lives of the people of afghanistan, they saw him carry out the 9/11 attacks. then to escape from a

they broke the law, and that to pay they have to pay a fine, they have to learn english, and they have to and process before they get in line for legalization. not too much to ask. [applause] illegal on reforming our outdated system of legal immigration. [applause] we should make it easier for the brightest to not only start businesses and create jobs here. years, a 25% of start- u.s. were founded by immigrants. to 200,000 jobs here in america. here more of them in this country. we need to provide them a chance. [applause] farms a workers that they rely on. apac for those workers to our legal status. path for those workers to earn a legal status. reuniting them quickly instead . system tolerates those who break the folks who follow the rules. applicants for approvals, for example, from visiting the united states. even has been and wise men have apart, a parent cannot see their children. i do not think the united states business of families. we can do better than that's -- we can do better than that. [applause] we should stop punishing innocent young people for the actions of their pare

and it's all on the bottom they have old pipes on the bottom whatever they aren't using they throw overboard the only people that ever see that is are fishermen who work the bottom are shrimpers the skimmer boats because they run into it and skimming or in their nets or shreds the nets almost. every bit of the sting says that are in that water and it does have competition like fish crab and fin fish and shrimp out here there's less of it for them to catch. the habitat destruction that is occurring if you took every fisherman out of the water and you don't do something about that water quality and the habitat protecting the habitat that the fisheries needs it's going to collapse. i and the people who work live off of these natural resources it's hard work but it's all also peachy connective is real family oriented you take your kids along when they're young when you're working you keep i'm with you on the boat and they go to. to do any trade in they can take care of a family or hand and need to move past. the now so it's real tight now. and all the money that they earn stays within the commun

they say the list isn't necessary. they say stanford's online registration system already let's system schedule classes. >> there is no need for the list in general which calls into question, its document that is available classes. >> the list of classes was pulled when they begin their investigation. students on campus are taking the news of the list in stride. they say this is still stanford and an easier class here is not a slam-dunk. you still have to do the work. >> they all have the workload. >> in stanford, lyanne melendez, "abc 7 news." >> fish with chips in monterey bay. monitoring the marine life can help you climate change. >> what is one company isñgñoñow >>> marine mammals off our coast senior giving researchers valuable clues on how to protect them and make our life better on land. karina rusk reports. >> this is what the scientific community refers to as fish and chips, as putting high-tech sensors or computer chips on marine mammals. they collect valuable information from the ocean to where species live

they all wanted to be like goldman because they make so much money, they have this history of peopleho -- their alumni getting important positions in washington. you mentioned bob reuben and hank paulson, two recent ones. there's many others i describe in the book. even this financial crisis we've just come through, goldman was able to see trouble coming unlike every other firm on wall street and do something about it. they made a big bet against the mortgage market that paid off in terms of billions of dollars for goldman that every other firm did not see and just pretended didn't exist and, basically, all went down the tubes. but i think what you do get out of this story is how often goldman found itself in trouble and how skilled it was at getting out of trouble. and so that was probably, you know, don't forget wall street has always been a dangerous place. firms have been going in and out of business their whole, you know, for the history of wall street. most firms don't make it. and most firms before 1970 when they started going public and becoming public companies were small pr

they have a job, and they tried to get peace. but there are certain people out there who run people out of their, throw a limb in jail, giving people tickets, dragging off their cars -- throwing people in jail, giving people tickets, dragging up their cars. that is part of the game to push us out. >> a lot of our children are foster care. what are we doing about them? we know that a lot of the young men are committing these crimes. how are we addressing milk? -- how are we addressing them? you can get it easier than you can get an apple. that is not our fault, and we are trying to change that. we need liquor stores to be better neighbors because the people hanging in front of liquor stores are not buying milk and bread. they are buying cups of liquor, by a cigarette. they are doing other things. we are trying to make sure that people understand that if you have a liquor store, you can provide other services as well. looking at the best liquor stores and saying that this is a good standard. we want liquor stores to be like this th

they do it because no one else is going to oftentimes and because they know that they can and they know that their and i think that is what also drove me to the story over and over again is that it was so universal. almost everyone has an aunt, mother, grandmother that sacrifice for them and taking risks against very different backdrops, and for me this work is a celebration of the work women do all the time with almost no one noticing and it's also a war story that shows a different side of conflict. >> host: top story of dr. marion, please. >> guest: and glad you asked that because dr. marion was one of the most compelling people i had ever met in any country anywhere. she is a woman doctor who practiced medicine all throughout the taliban years and the have seen so many educated women left and she didn't. and she's a major character in the dressmaker because she runs the clinic for the women in the afternoon after she works at the hospital in the morning and she runs this clinic for women all around the neighborhood. and one time i asked her why in the world she had stayed in the tim

they want to tell you because they believe it's real. they been corrupted that's part of the reason. >> i am working very hard and my friend is working very hard and of course we haven't been able to finish the mistrust. but it is something that we have to dea with because you know what, pakistan in the united states cannot be partners, and at the same time not trustach other. so there are hard questions that are being asked, charlie. it's not just here, there are hard questions being asked in pakistan. pakistan's own media is being very introspective and very hard asking tough questions. on o government and on our leaders and on our former leaders. people are asking why did you repeatedly say that he was absolutely convinced that osama bin laden wasn't here when he was eventually found in pakistan. >> charlie: i'm told by american officials that in meeting afte meeting they wer to either we don't know where osama bin laden is or he's not in pakistan. >> y. and with hinight, the first of the answers is a mited aner. if you don't know, yo

they are damned if they do and they are damned if they don't.hat is also what happened with president obama's remarks and israel. he felt he needed to do something but you really could not change the situation on the ground. he did something and get criticized. that is the same old story. host: live coverage of the president's speech to apac for tomorrow morning during the 10:00 hour and a couple of days after that, we will hear from eric cantor, the majority leader in the house monday night is fairly big. we will of coverage of the speeches to apac and the president speaks tuesday. caller: good morning. i have a few questions. i follow the israeli press for it is not true that there a number of peoples for -- people from labor a moderate parties inside israel who were talking about the fact that what netanyahu needed to do in congress is to offer in 1967 borderline agreement along with land swaps? host: let me stop you there and get a response. guest: it is true that there is an opposition in israel that is very critical of the stance of netany

drilled the well and wheezy on and they probably drilled a hundred thousand them they would also. have just a whole new ground and then these pits they would put these waste water zubair rights all these things they use in the oil and gas industry it's got hydrocarbons in it like oil it's got heavy metals refine our snake around these wells a lot and it's got was called produced water comes up with the oil three four times the salinity of seawater dumped on the ground it kills everything it touches so it would kill off all these little valleys and creek beds and streams and so when they left the lease they would just push the little bit in a little dirt over but the landowners left with this massive waste which then seeps down to the ground water and there's a hundred thousand of these out there and many of the still leaking landowners are just finally learning about them so it's another one of those legacies and. they knew that these pits were going to leak out scene reports from the thirty's and say . if you put salt water in these online pits is going to leak down the groundwat

they flew it to switzerland but then they sort of got charmed by margin margin world works. well when things are going up but people don't realize that margin is a professional's game margin gets duller and duller on the way up but sharper and sharper on the way down you have to study the way that margin works as as an investment goes up you're paying off your your margin you're gaining more and more equity so you're leveraged less and less as you win but when you start to lose you get leverage more and more and more on the way down the hunt rather got charmed into going out on futures contracts and using leverage and that was one of their big downfalls they were actually worried about the dollar collapsing they were really silver investors they weren't speculators they were investors that were protecting themselves from the stupidity of the federal reserve and the u.s. government i just wrote an article on this i can't believe that hundreds of thousands of people have read about the hunt brothers and haven't come to the exact same conclusion that the hunt brothers were used

they love you. they love you until they got your money. anybody else got any questions? yes, sir. >> go up to the microphone. >> with your grass roots movement, what do you think was your biggest single event that created a turning point where you got your money back from the investment companies? >> well, i think that the -- i think the turning point came when we began to let -- we went political essentially. we started -- excuse me -- we started to let states attorney general know around election time that we were going to start grass roots movements, hunger strikes, and all that sort of thing if they didn't take action because the states attorney general really are the pivot points, the guys like elliot who get in there and take these guys to task, and former attorney general cuomo did a wonderful job in helping us get money back because he was up for election, so we put pressure on him that way. anybody else? yes, sir. >> i've got two questions. first one is about diversification. i haven't heard you say anything about that. were any of the people you spoke to, the s

they can build stuff-- they can build schools, they can build roads. we know they can do that. it costs a lot of money, it costs a lot of lives, but they can do it. but the one thing that hasn't been demonstrated at all-- and we're now in the tenth year of this thing-- is, can we hand it off to the afghans? >> narrator: the soldiers here say the answer is "not yet." >> okay. >> what do you think would happen if you guys leave? >> honestly, i think if we left, the taliban would take it over again. >> narrator: it is now almost ten years since the united states came to this country to drive out the taliban and al qaeda. tens of thousands of taliban have been killed or captured. the leader of al qaeda, osama bin laden, is now dead. but it's far from clear what the long-term consequences of this kill/capture campaign will be. >> next time on frontline... >> meth has destroyed this community. >> methamphetamine is a highly addictive drug... >> she looked 20 years older than she was. >> ...made from a highly profitable pharmaceutical. >> cold medicine is a $3 billion moneymaker. >> w

they feel they should get health care for freewill they were at a hospital. >> darya: this walkout isot just today but for almost a whole week is that right? >> will: until monday. there are new and security, and i have to be honest it is upsetting the nurses, the money they are spending on the replacement workers, the second time since october as well as extra security, they believe that money could be put into the health care benefit money. instead of being adamant about not working with the nurses they believe the money is wasted. hopefully we will hear from the hospital. >> darya: they want to make sure they have nursing staff for the kids who come in and need help today. >> will: they say service shred want on that interrupted despite having less nurses, elective surgery those things that can wait, that should be done when the nurses come back. >> mark: coming up on the kron 4 morning news, in about four minutes we will tell you about what is happening from illinois to mississippi. the mississippi river is swelling its banks. we will tell you what the president as saying. 6:40 a.

but they are capable. they can communicate. they can provide security.nd their leaders plan pretty well. >> what do they still need from you? >> what they really need from us is the next step, what we can provide them that they are not as good as yet is for example, some planning and logistical operations. they want to conduct a week-long operation, we can help you organize a way to resupply yourself. that operation is a week long and not two days long. those are the things that we are applying right now. not just as at an advisory level br partner level. they operate in the lead but we can contribute some experience just because our army is significantly older than theirs on how to better connect operations. >> police are actually doing pretty well. we have 43 or 45 police to secure the population. that is our primary challenge here. just increasing the manage of the police so they can take care of the populace the way they need to. they do community policing here. they have military-type patrols they go out on and also have community policing. if there

and then, they coddle and they talk and they smile at one another and they get to know each other. grandma annie takes the shiver out of suhala. they look back on earth, and they see that there are people in need of help. a 50-foot wave was sweeping from the ocean to the land and through swirling waters swimmers traveled up towards the surface. kick hard and he encouraged them, swim. tilting her head towards her granddaughter, she asked, show we invite them to join us little one? made we? suhala responded, we have lots of room. annie nodded and let her voice drifts down, come and dance and give more babies and ears and when the next giant wave crested, all the children left high like flying fish. suhala in and he caught them by their fingertips and pulled them up to the moon. draping scarves around their shoulders, they swung the children around and around until they could all laugh again, loud and long. the moon becomes a place where those who are sad, those who are confused and those who have lost things can gather and feel good again. day rest, but they also realize that they ar

they were wonderful writers. they weren't writing to be published. they were writing letters.was part of life, part of what you were expected to do. sumner's story is so arresting. >> massachusetts? >> massachusetts senator, senator charles sumner, one of the most important figures of 19th century america in that he was the most powerful voice for abolition in the senate. he was nearly beaten to death on the floor of the senate with a heavy walking stick by a senator from south carolina who was offended by what he said. he went to harvard law school, practiced for three years and decided i don't know enough. my education is not sufficient. i want to know more. i want to learn more. i'm going to go to paris. so he borrowed $3,000 from friends, closed up his office, and he went over to the sorbonne, attending lectures, and all classes. >> in french? >> in french. everything was in french. he did not know how to speak french and so he had to learn it. he organized tutors, and in about a month he was able to do it. the undaunted courage was inspiring. he attended the lectures, and

do they do? they sell-off the office of tax collector or finance minister to wealthy individuals this had the important impact to break up the opposition to the centralization product of louis xiv and other great monarch's. but there is a desire to privatize public office. grab as much of the public sector as you can it in the early 1600's it became permissible for the wealthy individuals to turn them over to their children as property with the chateau in the vineyards he would also get the position of another public office. by the time this sector was sold off, the constant struggle you cannot create a modern state under these circumstances. the revolution basically divested these old deletes not just the property and offices but their heads and it took of violent revolution to eliminate that system. let's talk about the rule of law. this is the second basket of institutions they are limitations and rules that limit rulers to do as they want. where do you get this system? in my view it always co

that's the reason they fired. >> lehrer: they had orders to fire? in other words, it was fine with the united states government if they went ahead and shot this guy, right? >> the authority here was to kill bin laden. obviously under the rules of engagement if he in fact had thrown up his hands and surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat then they were to capture them. they had full authority to kill him. >> lehrer: as far as you know there was no communication, verbal communication, between osama bin laden and the american seals? >> jim, not that i'm aware of. obviously we're still getting the feedback from the seals themselves as to just exactly, you know, what took place during that mission. but as far as i know, there was no communication. >> lehrer: what was the size of the american commando team? how many people actually went on the ground in that compound? >> there were 25 people that went on the ground. they were carried in two blackhawk hawk helicopters that went in. the approach was that those helicopters would

they wanted to be a state charter, and they were. it was why it was submitted to us in the first place. before we get to [unintelligible] the was the appeal of the charter held by the state board, to be appealed to the local board first. that was the requirement. i am not aware of if there was any choice of the implied testimony this evening. >> if this were to go back to the state, where they get passed through the state board? >> i can't speak for the state board of education, but thinking just based on process and what i have experienced in the past, the were looking for the actual petition to have findings on would be a the one that we submitted to them. commissioner feweryee: was thatl on the process? >> as you recall, on the budget committee, that was insufficient on many categories. they had missed the deadline to submit it. this was updated information, and they were unable when they came to the committee, my memory is not that good. they did not have the information from the management company. they did not have that pertine

is the broadest measure of companies they have no ways to be canonically why a bowl they cannot survive. more than two hundred thousand people waiting for state forest management system in russia before the new forest leaves leeson and while we're here we're told if two thousand people including those sixteen thousand or responsible for. someone least of these things so if there is nothing a person is to can also does that mean that the people who adopted this legislation the people who were dead knew for its battle to go and things are anti forests that they wanted to cause harm to russian forest central to draw russian economy to russian virus is that so what were they wanted to do something good but just didn't succeed it was a mistake or was it on purpose how did happen this is still discussed among foresters than biologists who want to work towards it on board was all of this was the only use the my personal opinion is that it was rather a mistake then quote worse people who are made for this new forest called they were too far from forest too far from reality they only thought tha

they still think they're going to die. they still think they can't tell anybody. women still think they can't have children. none of those are true but that's still what everybody believes, whether you get diagnosed in san francisco or west africa or south africa. so i think the involvement and the stepping-up of community organizations is still really needed. it's really critical in changing attitudes and supporting people who are at risk for acquiring hiv and for those who are living with this disease. >> all right. i want to thank you so much, dr. hare and you also for being with us, deon, tonight. >> thank you, belva. >> belva: that is all the time that we have tonight. visit kqed.org/thisweek. our newsletter and our podcast. and to share your thoughts about the program. we wish you a peaceful memorial day weekend. we'll be off next week for the holiday. i'm belva davis. good night.

they need. how can this help veterans? it requires all of them to go through a program called taps or transition assistance program. that's everything from teaching them how to do financial planning to writing their resume to what job skills they have and need. it would expand the troops to teachers program. this has been a very successful effort that allows qualified military to begin working as teachers when they leave the service. many in the military like it because, of course, they still want to serve in their communities once they take off the uniform. perhaps most important, there's going to be a military skills apply to the civilian work force. this is crucial as the wars wind down and more leave the service how do they find jobs, how does driving a tank, being a sniper, handling ammo, really prepare you for the civilian work force. what many troops tell us is, they want to convince employers what they have really learned in the military is leadership and discipline skills and those are

what are they thinking about right now in terms of what they found, of what they need to do going forwardell, first of all, there is cooperation with the pakistani government and the message despite anger, legitimate anger on some levels and disbelief that how could the pakistanis not have known about this, the message being conveyed is, look, we're sure that you're as surprised as we are, so let's work together. >> is that a deliberate measure to get them on -- >> absolutely, so they work together. let's work together so that we can for once and all defeat al qaeda and that is the approach being taken. >> i mean, we've heard ambassador haqqani talk about that and everybody is saying that they have suffered so many death, as well. but, you know, for years it seems they've been speak out of both sides of their mouth. >> absolutely. >> what can the administration do to end this? to stop this. >> try to convince behind the scenes the pakistanis that they have to stop this. but there is very little sense in doing it in a public way so that the pakistanis feel like they have to. i mean, just r