that's why doing something wrong to toby and ask toby to pay for my attorney to defend against him. >of the existing attorneys out there. use someone from the department of justice. >> look, good news -- >> they're very busy in traffic court. i was just down in traffic court and there was a doj attorney. they're doing the important stuff. >> those attorneys are on payroll. that's like saying it's a public defender. >> oh, come on. >> how about we abolish the irs and attorneys. >> you want them to hire attorneys with their irs paychecks. >> hopefully this wasn't an hourly hire. that's the only thing i'm worried about. guys, fed-up fliers, get ready to get fed up even more. the white house pushing a new tax for passengers. forget owning our debt. is the biggest fear from china owning our food? >>> forget worries about the chinese buying up our debt. a chinese company is buying up u.s.-based smithfield foods, the largest pork producer in the billion.he deal worth about $5 toby, you say this raises major safety concerns. >> of course it does. you have to look at chinese history, not the r

that's why doing something wrong to toby and k toby to pay for my attorney to defend against him. >> day my money is paying for criminals to have attoeys. >> so use one of the existing attorneys out there. use someone from the department of justice. >> look, good news -- >> they're very busy in traffic court. i was just down i traffic court and there was a doj attorney. they're doing the important stuff. >> those attorneys are on payroll. that's like sin it a public defender. >> oh, come on. >> how about we abolish the irs and attorneys. >> you want them to hire torneys with their irs paychecks. >> hopefully thiswasn't an hourly hire. that's the only thing i'm worried about. guys, fed-up fliers, get ready to get fed up even more. the white house pushing a new tax for passengers. forget owning our debt. we went out and asked people a simple qstion: how old is the olde person you've known? we ge people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot t of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that a great thing. t even though we're living longer, one thing that has

>> toby should be a video game character. until he is, i'm a bear. >> i think he is out there. >> you're still on aol. come on. >> jonas, your prediction. >> detroit is now so broke, they're missing debt payments. lend your money to states that have the tax pay. california muni bonds. >> toby. >> i'm a total bear. if you read meredith whitney's great book, you wouldn't put a penny into california muni bonds. >>> cavuto is next. >> well, they might be watching you. is it time to start watching them? hi, everyone. glad to have you. i'm neil cavuto. and watch out because apparently washington does not want you finding out much at all about this nsa snooping. senators closing the door on another secure briefing this week. let me say that is what's pretty weak. doesn't the public deserve better? who's going to save them? not this man of steel who might be smashing box office records this weekend. yeah, this man of steel wants to smash down those doors of taxpayers everywhere. why are they laughing?

california muni bonds. >> toby. >> i'm a total bear.you read meredith whitney's great book, you wouldn't put a penny into california muni bonds. >>> cavuto is next. >> well, they mighbe watching you. is it ti to start watchi them? hi, eone. glad to have you. i'm neil cavuto. and watch out because apparently washington does not want you finding out much at all abo this nsa snooping. senators closing the door on another secure briefing this week. let me say that is what's pretty weak. doesn'tthe public deserve better? who's going to save them? not this man of steel who might be smashing box office rords is weekend. yeah, this man of steel wants to smash down those doors of taxpayers erywhere. why are they lghing?

it could be trillions in cost. >> toby? has to be uer a system, that is audible and transparent. that is the, i. if it's not transparent. good word shenanigans. there is so much we don't know and that is the scary part. >> brenda: last word. thank you, guys. you probly heard about line dcers at the i.r.s. junct. >> brenda: while everyone is focusing on wasteful spending athe i.r.s. andthe lavish junct, should they focus on the e.p.a. and thearehouses? one e.p.a. contractor setting up a man cave in one with tvs, work-out euipment and pinup posters. got to go to john. >>y man kay would look better than that. i would have a sports channel least! >> brenda: we're paying for it. >> nothing worse than nonrhythmic people dancing except for when taxpayers pay for it. the e.p.a. is an abomination in this country. they have stalled politically the fracking regulations. hey us as a weapon. they are a waste of the taxpxpayers money. this shows how bad they e a waste of money. >> brenda: meredith? >> i compare it to corporate america wh

it could be trillions in cost. >> toby?this has to be under a system, that is audible and transparent. that is the, i. if it's not transparent. good word shenanigans. there is so much we don't know and that is the scary part. >> brenda: last word. thank you, guys. you probably heard about line dancers at the i.r.s. junct. what about the man kay at the e.p.a. warehouse in the new government waste that will fire you up. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. >> brenda: coming up -- e.p.a., the latest government agency under fire for wasting tax dollars on man caves. this one really stinks. plus, one major bank rolling >> brenda: while everyone

it could be trillions in cost. >> toby?is has to be under a system, that is audible and transparent. that is the, i if it's not transparent. good word shenanigans. there is so much we don't know and that is the scary part. >> brenda: last word. thank you, guys. you probably heard about line dancers at the i.r.s. junct. we went out and asked people a simp questn: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of u have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longe one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ you will lose 3 sets of keys cell phones 7 socks and 6 weeks of sleep but one thing you don't want to lose is any more teeth. if y wear a partial, you are almost twice as likely to lose your supporting teeth. new poligrip and polident for partials 'seal and protect' helps minimize st

appointments recommended by the nominations subcommittee are: bradley sugarman and toby engelberg. seat to expire september 15, 2016. additional eligible applicants reviewed by the nominations subcommittee that the bic also may consider include: david mcdermott, azemina favretto, ron giddings, alexander lirisman, brian foust, and george wesely. the clerk: item 6: discussion and possible action to approve and swear in a member of the board of examiners licensed architect seat. appointments recommended by the nominations subcommittee are: bradley sugarman and toby engelberg. seat to expire september 15, 2016. additional eligible applicants reviewed by the nominations subcommittee that the bic also may consider include: david mcdermott, azemina favretto, ron giddings, alexander lirisman, brian foust, and george wesely. #124 1234 >> what was the second name? the two recommended are bradley sugar man, they were not recommended by the committee but all the candidates that applied. >> thank you. you want to take the lead here? >> i would like to recommend that we a point sugarman for the

. >> sort of want to echo toby's words that this really was a model. and how to reach out to the community and bring a project forward and so i want to thank forest city for all of the effort that they put into that and the port staff for working hand in hand with forest city to review the project and then shepherd it along and i know that there is no easy fete do anything project in san francisco is not for the faint of heart. but i think that this is really an opportunity and one that we will not see again to have a significant impact on the face of san francisco. this is one of the last large sites and i think that it is important that we get it right. and that we make sure that it is uniquely san francisco. and that is why i appreciate the focus on the making of the place making. and i also want to thank forest city for reaching out to the nunan building and that became an issue and probably more of an every sight than anything because i had heard the plans to keep the artist there but i do traoesht *f appreciate the reaching out to the artists and

toby partridge barely escaped. >> there was no notice. we didn't see anything on the news.idn't get a reverse 911 call that the fire was that close until we literally had a police offrfq) in our driveway saying, "get out now." >> reporter: the fire has spread so quickly, sheriff terry maketa can't guarantee everyone got out. >> one of my worst fears is that people took their chances and it may have cost them their life. >> reporter: another large fire is burning near the royal gorge bridge park. visitors to the popular tourist attraction were evacuated, asÑi well as inmates at a nearby prison. much of colorado has been under a red flag fire warning for days. there's been almost no rain in a month. the conditions are similar to last june when the waldo canyon fire destroyed more than 350 homes. this fire has forced more than 7,000 people out of the area.ñr >> they have the same feeling-- they saw the smoke plume and they thought it can't happen to the same community twice, and it did. >> reporter: toby partridge took in his friends during last year's fires. now it was his tu

. >> toby lavine? >> good afternoon, commissioners, my name is toby lavine and i am the co-chair of the central water front advisory group and i guess after 12 or so years, that this project has been bubbling under the surface you did not expect that today you would have a love fest. but that sounds like what you have. and it is true, that part of that is because of the efforts that forest city has made to reach out to the community and to incorporate the communities idea and concerns into the project. and so maybe you might ask for a city to put together a conpendeum that could be passed on to other developers about how to do this work. >> i think that going in the future, if we really want to have an extraordinary environment, i mean, in some places, extraordinary environments evolve. but in this particular case, we are creating it. and that means they have done very well with putting excellent people and imaginative people on the team and reaching out to the neighbors for ideas. but we need to have

to jews and genocide was an association brought the claim to prosecutors with attorney you should toby joins us it's good to have you on obama no expanding the war on. they're off to a war room with applause and using drones over us soil you know as with apartheid discrimination is spiraling out of control it's a history that people know and so it's something we can identify with and that is particularly put in and do the show this week and community because it is you know three ninety four we had extensive detention without trial in this country and the competitive to the south african public is you didn't condone it then why must you allow it to happen on an international basis now and so this is a genocide. of the campaign against people of the one of the judges you know about the stunning high court judgement they will complaint has declined to drone attacks to be illegal in his ask the un to investigate he seems to want to joke about the don't know if he's acquitted as having shifted one of these bowls held in the us that if any persons hit the zines on his daughters he's got to g

las entradas vip incluyen saludar personalmente a los artistas, como toby love y la maquina de el salvadorte miercoles 19 les digo si usted es uno de felices ganadores... investiga la policia dos muertes ocurridas en el edificio skyline de la seminary road.preocupante el nu menores que ven pornograria, cuales son las repercuciones sicologicas y legales? le vamos a contar una posible enmienda del senador marcos rubio al proyecto de reforma migratoria podria afectara a miles de personas de la tercera edad. en los deportes se completa la primera jornada de la copa fifa confederaciones. hola que tal?.. hola que tal?.. bienvenidos!!!.. continua esta noche la investigacion en torno a las dos muertes ocurridas en un edificio de apartamentos ubicados en las proximidades de la ruta 7 del condado de fairfax... silvana quiroz hablo con algunos vecinos del lugar y nos cuenta sobre lo que dicen los residentes del lugar..silvana.

las entradas vip incluyen saludar personalmente a los artistas, como toby love y la maquina de el salvadorste miercoles 19 les digo si usted es uno de felices ganadores... lunes 17 de junio del 2013 las principales noticias de hoy del noticiero, se invalida la ley de arizona que exigÍa una prueba de ciudadanÍa para registrarse antes de votar, una niÑera denuncia a la pareja que la contratÓ desde chile para trabajar en nueva york. se investiga a un funcionario mexicano, como con su sueldo comprÓ dos costosas viviendas y un roll royce en estados unidos, polÍtica y religiÓn mezcladas, en el vaticano el papa francisco y el cuestionado presidente de venezuela maduro, comenzamos. ♪. ♪. ♪. >>> este es su "noticiero marÍa elena salinas. ♪. ♪. ♪. >>> quÉ tal, buenas noches. el estado de arizona fue muy lejos, la corte suprema de justicia le puso el freno, el mÁximo tribunal del paÍs dijo que arizona no puede exigir pruebas de ciudadanÍa a la hora de votareo, la tarjeta de registro de votante es suficiente, la decisiÓn de la corte de la proposiciÓn 200 de arizona sienta un precedente, como dice lour

las entradas vip incluyen saludar personalmente a los artistas, como toby love y la maquina de el salvadors... ♪ ♪ "despierta amÉrica" ♪ >>> masiva redada en tiendas seven, dueÑos son acusados de maltratar a indocumentados. >>> la nueva depresiÓn que se formÓ en el caribe sigue dejando enormes inundaciones, se encuentran por centenares. revivimos la goliza de nigeria a tahitÍ. >>> y carmen salinas destapa la hoya, revela todo lo que pasÓ. y yadhira carrillo hace importantes declaraciones. >>> y en "despierta amÉrica" te decimos cÓmo terminar con los celos de tu pareja. y mucho cuidado con la sal en la comida. y tienen que oÍr toda la verdad del tema. >>> y sergio mayer vivira el mayor reto de su vida. aquÍ lo veremos bailar con mÁs movimiento. >>> amigos, le gustarÍa ser su propio jefe? no se pierda que debe hacer para montrar su negocio. >>> y los arco iris en el cabello estÁn de moda, aquÍ le diremos cÓmo dar color. >>> y tenemos la mÚsica de los lideres de la mÚsica de tierra caliente. tierra cali. >>> y "despierta

toby. >>> sÍ, toby, ahi va. gracias. y carnes, la carne consiste de gusanos, esto tambiÉn lagartijas pequeÑas, huevos, frutas, bayas. >>> me encanta, cuÁl es su nombre? >>> strike. >>> por las rayas. >>> un animalito descubierto hace poco, en el 2001. >>> si, es un animal precioso. >>> miren esto. >>> un monitor azul. >>> ay, me da ÑaÑaras dirÍa mi mamÁ, dte lo encontraron cÓmo lo descubrieron? >>> vienen de asia, es parecido al monitor verde, tienen un rabo muy largo. >>> sÍ. >>> es para sujetarse, es prensil, como una mano. lo enroscan y se balancean. >>> cuÁnto puede medir? >>> hasta 3 pies de largo, el dos tercios del largo, es la cola, tiene un color precioso, se encuentra en una isla de indones indonesia, estamos aprendiendo de Él ahora, en el siglo xxi todavÍa descubrimos especies. >>> me encanta, es hermoso, el que viene ahora, les encantarÁ, se acuerdan. un jabali africano. >>> miren, a randolph. >>> randolph es un jabali africano. >>> quÉ bello. >>> oye, es un animal que se ve bastante fuerte, cuÁnto puede pesa

las entradas vip incluyen saludar personalmente a los artistas, como toby love y la maquina de el salvadors... olvide, hasta maÑana. >>> hola quÉ tal, los titulares, 17 de junio del 2013 la corte suprema de justicia aboliÓ la proposiciÓn 200 de arizona, negaba la oportunidad de votar a los que no demostraran la ciudadanÍa de manera que lo exigÍan, las tiendas 7 eleven estÁn en el ojo del huracan, algun algunos empleadores explotan a indocumentados, en chicago muertos y heridos, como la reforma migratoria favorecerÁ al paÍs econÓmicamente, asÍ comenzamos. >>> este es su "noticiero univisiÓn" edicion nocturna con ilia calderÓn y enrique acevedo. >>> hola quÉ tal, buenas noches, la corte suprema de justicia tomÓ una decision que favorece a minorÍas de votantes en estados unidos. cuando rechazÓ la llamada proposiciÓn 200 de arizona, que pretendÍa exigir que a la hora de votar los ciudadanos lo eran, los estados no pueden exigir pruebas que van mÁs alla de lo establecido a nivel federal, dulce recogiÓ reacciones en arizona. >>> los voluntarios de la organizaciÓn promotora del voto mi familia vo

you have an e-mail from toby where she talked about how we feel about project has in line and moving forward with the vision that we had under the pier 70 master plan. we've worked on this pier 70 for 13 years. we started out as the pier 70 advisory group, we helped the master plan. and we feel our city has done a good job with the port and moving that vision forward, we're very pleased to see the residential component added to activate the site. it's going to be a very complicate the and very expensive project and it's going to take a long time to come to few igs. we ask you to approve the term sheet so we can go to the next step. >> next speaker, please. thank you. >> good morning supervisors. i'm with bright line defense in support the item moving forward today. i wanted to comment that excellent hiring commitment have been made on be after of the developer four city which is a great partner and it's a continuation of good work force developments in terms of putting low income communities back to work and particularly neighborhoods in need and looking at this project we believe we

ryan invited some of the branch managers and toby into the woods for a "get to know you" weekend.n't invited. apparently they already knew everything they needed to know about him.

. >> brenda: toby? >> yum love kids. >> brenda: john bull or bear? >> i'm going grocery shopping. bear! ] >> brenda: neil take it away. ♪ >> neil: do you ever wonder who can you trust? for more americans it ain't the white house. hi, everyone. i'm ne cavuto. watch your back. the government could be watching yu. here, there, everywhere. reports that it's monitoring million of verizon customers in america. getting host of internet companies together online information overseas. a poll shows half of americans don't think the president is being truthful with the country on the i.r.s. scandal. even the "new york times," writing this about the sndal. thiss updated a little bit. the administration has now lost all credibility on this issue. that is a big deal. if perception is reality, i the administration in real trouble? daigen mcdowell and julie up stephen. charles payne. >> when the "new york times" says president obama lost all cribility -- >> on this issue. that's how it was in the original draft. >> on this issue. >> he is great on the economy. the headline is the headline. this w

. >> toby. >> i'm a total bear. if you read meredith whitney's great book, you wouldn't put a penny into california muni bonds. >>> cavuto is next. >> well, they mighbe watching you. is it ti to start watchi them? hi, eone. glad to have you. i'm neil cavuto. and watch out because apparently washington does not want you finding out much at all abo this nsa snooping. senators closing the door on another secure briefing this week. let me say that is what's pretty weak. doesn'tthe public deserve better? who's going to save them? not this man of steel who might be smashing box office rords is weekend. yeah, this man of steel wants to smash down those doors of taxpayers erywhere. why are they lghing? which one of these will have theirs? you look goodne. >> to our superheroes, ben stein along with these two. adam, charl gasparino. what do you think? >> the sect meetings about the sret recordings tt th american people still aren't sure about, listen. at some point we should get something more than just a memo from the nsa t

up next on booktv, "after words" with guest host toby harnden "the sunday times" of london washington bureau chief. this week that's our news editor charles moore in his latest book "margaret thatcher" from grantham to the falklands. the longtime reporter editor and columnist for london's daily telegraph presents the authorized biography of written's only female prime minister. the program is about an hour. >> host: welcome to "after words." i am toby harnden from the "the sunday times" of london and with me today is charles moore the journalist and author, spec tater in britain in the "the sunday times" and the telegraph, the daily telegraph. charles is the man responsible for -- in 1999 and also belfast in jerusalem as well. charles has written the authorized biography of margaret thatcher. it's the first of two volumes and it takes her from her birth to possibly her finest moments of victory in the falcons in 1992. the book received rave reviews in the "the sunday times" hailed it elegant prose, dry wit, prodigious research and careful judgment and the telegraph described its combi

you have an e-mail from toby where she talked about how

. >> are we going to get e-mails that toby interrupts me like you get e-mails about interrupting?right. thank you, guys, very, very much for your indulgence with everything else going on on bulls and bears. we do want to update you right now on the other big story today, the fallout from those tornadoes. when you look at some of this video, everyone got out alive in that town. amazing. more after this.'s o nline banki, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login... to easily move my money when i need to. plus, when i call my local scottrade office, i can talk to someone who knows how i trade. because i don't trade like everi'm with scottrade. me. (announcer) scottrade. awarded five-stars from smartmoney magazine. >>> welcome back, everyone. we try to juggle a lot to these close to two hours now, our business audiences we respect, love and admire. we're not forgetting you and general news audience and captivating developments out of much of the midwest and the southern portion of our country. i do want to let you know for regular viewers of our regular business

healthy or to generate healthy profits for themselves and is there anything we can do to break this one toby flood dictions. the worst journalist. the white house of the day the radio guy and columbo minestrone they all want to watch closely to do good you've never seen anything like this i'm cold. oh and welcome to crossfire for all things considered i'm peter all about the age of pill popping to what degree as big pharma hijacking captured the western medical establishment what is the real aim of the pharmaceutical industry to make people healthy or to generate healthy profits for themselves and is there anything we can do to break this unhealthy addiction. cross-talk a big pharma i'm joined by david healy in bangor he is a professor of psychiatry at cardiff university and author of the book farmageddon we also have martha rosenberg in chicago she's an investigative health reporter in author of born with a junk food deficiency and in new york we cross to josh blum he's director of chemical and pharmaceutical sciences at the american council on science and health all right cross talk rules

healthy or to generate healthy profits for themselves and is there anything we can do to bring this on toby but your question. is we've. come. to. welcome back here you're with us on our team police have once again clashed with protesters in turkey is capital on attend the night of nationwide anti government demonstrations what started as a local environmental campaign last month the soon escalated into violent clashes but even tea i guess and want to can and has failed to dent in the activist mood that you're not going to school with the details now. this is still going on people are saying they're not backing down they're going to continue to protest and it's not all fun and games protesters have come under fire from police and on kharaj this is the second day in a row that such such an event has happened in broad is one of those is one of the turkish cities which has been under a lot of pressure when it comes to public reacting to the protests in fact it has been gassed or somehow the water cannons have been used some protesters almost every single day off the protests which have been go

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: that is toby keith. to the command ner chief the war on terror is over. now it's time to negotiate with the taliban. that is right. i said negotiate with the taliban. with me now former counterterrorism agent from tampa and all right gentlemen. why negotiate with these people? >> eric? >> i'm saying don't negotiate with them. obama administration thinking is they want to pack up their bags and go home and get out of afghanistan as soon as possible. i think at the end of the day that is what we're seeing here. we have a history, judge, when it comes with negotiating with the taliban. back in 2006, 2007 pakistani government signed a peace deal with the taliban and their forces. a few months later the pakistani taliban broke the peace deal. they got within 90 miles of the pakistani capital. if they are breaking a peace deal with the pakistani government what makes us think they will keep a peace deal with? >> judge jeanine: if you have actually negotiated with these people? >> during the war in 2001 we woul

she beat out several artists including luke brie bryan and toby keith.er ones included carrie underwood and lady antebellum. >> losing a landscape favery. they are going to flowers -- they are go-to flowers for many gardners but impatients areie dying off.ntdyin don't worry though our garden g expert is here with other colorful options for you. plus putting a healthy spin on our national parks. we are taste testing what yout get out there when you tour around the national mall and other places. we'll be right back with that. >> local gardners are being warned that a favorite plant should not be part of your landscaping plans this summer. going us now is derek thomas with thomas landscape. don't even in be a alarmist about this but this is serious stuff here we're talking about. >> yes, it's. you know, tony what happening ie as we continue to see different pathogens that crop up in greenhouse crops, as we continun to have a smaller and smaller choice of greenhouses that arere growing we're seeing more and more viruses crop up. this virus actually effects

it wasou talk about toby, a form of protection for my grandparents. about all of the dangers in their world. you had to defeat the past while moving on in the future. a lot of those elements were also a part of "beloved." filmre we are at sundance festival, a celebration of independent films. talk about the importance of independent films. me, after all the blockbusters, this is one of the great moments in my career, i believe. to be able to support independent film, independent thinking. the whole if you take genre of independent films, and they invariably have influence on the industry anyway. independent films is where actors get a chance to do real work. that is why sundance is so brilliant. documentary films. , supportinglliant the idea of documentary's. documentaries' are our way of establishing our relationship to what is happening to us. is context that we can look and what has happened to us, have opinions on it, disagree, have a discourse and maybe it is a documentary about the climate, health care, what ever they are, perhaps have a chance

that's toby keith's hometown, moore. he said let's follow toby's lead. so i called toby.aid cool. i'll give him a call. we started calling other people and bringing people in to underwrite and help with the expenses. we went to the oklahoma football stadium. i think we sold out in a couple of hours. at this stage, we're a month afterwards and it's more about morale at this point. there is still people in tents outside their homes. >> steve: it's a great thing what you're doing and the concert is july 6. you're going to raise a lot of money and we thank you very much for joining us to tell your story. >> alisyn: thanks so much. >> thanks for the time. thank you. >> clayton: more "fox & friends" in two minutes. we'll be right back. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? oh, yeah. [ malannouncer ] it's practically yours. [ wife ] sorry. [ male announcer ] but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due

up next on booktv, "after words" with guest host toby harnden "the sunday times" of london washington bureau chief. this week that's our news editor charles moore in his latest book "margaret thatcher" from grantham to the falklands. the longtime reporter editor and columnist for london's daily telegraph presents the authorized biography of written's only female prime minister. the program is about an hour. >> host: welcome to "after words." i am toby harnden from the "the sunday times" of london and with me today is charles moore the journalist and author, spec tater in britain in the "the sunday times" and the telegraph, the daily telegraph. charles is the man responsible for -- in 1999 and also belfast in jerusalem as well. charles has