ultimately the tories just tories are very unpopular just because they are the tories, but the not yetnot yet able people to come able to galvanise people to come out vote them. simply out and vote for them. simply against the tories. and i think out and vote for them. simply agai this he tories. and i think out and vote for them. simply agai this is tories. and i think out and vote for them. simply agai this is up'ies. and i think out and vote for them. simply agai this is up untilind i think out and vote for them. simply agai this is up until now, think that this is up until now, i think that keir starmer has been very sensible in playing it very sort not trying sort of cautiously, not trying to rock the boat too much, just letting have enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto have enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto sort have enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto sort of have enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto sort of hang ve enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto sort of hang themselves. rope to sort of hang themselves. but when it

tory expert tory peer, pollster and expert on all things conservative.ing an expert on all things laboun saying an expert on all things labour. so we've got and labour. so we've got blue and red represented on this sofa very nicely. let us just first of all make some analysis of how important these by elections are when it comes the next when it comes to the next general election. robert, i mean, they signify much? mean, do they signify much? a week's a long time in politics. the next election could be 16 months away for the next general election, the answer is no . election, the answer is no. >> but for the next few months, they set the mood because we've now in recess . the commons they set the mood because we've now in recess. the commons are the peers. don't go into recess till next week, but we're in recess and therefore the mood until the party conferences has been set by these by elections is. >> john, how good has it been for labour? obviously they've had this stellar success in selby and yet all of the newspapers are reflecting on this row betwe

ultimately the tories just tories are very unpopular just because they are the tories, but the not yetnot yet able people to come able to galvanise people to come out vote them. simply out and vote for them. simply against the tories. and i think out and vote for them. simply agai this he tories. and i think out and vote for them. simply agai this is tories. and i think out and vote for them. simply agai this is up'ies. and i think out and vote for them. simply agai this is up untilind i think out and vote for them. simply agai this is up until now, think that this is up until now, i think that keir starmer has been very sensible in playing it very sort not trying sort of cautiously, not trying to rock the boat too much, just letting have enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto have enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto sort have enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto sort of have enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto sort of hang ve enough to rock the boat too much, just lettirto sort of hang themselves. rope to sort of hang themselves. but when it

it seems some tory voters stayed at home.g as he can — to january 2025 — he s still only a third of the way through. so he has a maximum of 18 months before crunch time. and all the signs are that his task is not just about stopping the boats, but turning an oil tanker of public opinion. and nowjoining us to discuss the next steps for the parties the guardian's aubrey allegretti and founder of the kraken strategy and former conservative special adviser, salma shah welcome to you both. aubrey, postmortems the starting tonight, what do you think are going to be the key policy areas that people are looking at in the wake of these results? , ., . ., looking at in the wake of these results? , . . ., ., ., results? there is a certain amount of desperation _ results? there is a certain amount of desperation setting _ results? there is a certain amount of desperation setting in _ results? there is a certain amount of desperation setting in among i results? there is a certain amount - of desperation setting in among some in the conser

tories?eeds to do. but i think the fact that we've got people coming out and voting labour never labour who have never voted labour who have never voted labour in lives labour before in their lives shows we moving in the shows that we are moving in the right are we where we right direction. are we where we need to be yet? none of us need to be yet? no, none of us would that. i think we need would say that. i think we need to have the humility to understand that the voters and the party been a the labour party have been on a journey past three and the labour party have been on a johalfy past three and the labour party have been on a jo half years, past three and the labour party have been on a jo half years, we're past three and the labour party have been on a johalf years, we're starting�*e and the labour party have been on a jo half years, we're starting toand a half years, we're starting to build back trust keir build back trust under keir starmer's leadership, have starmer's leadership, th

. in the south-west is very bad news for the tories.— for the tories. local election results, it _ could make. if you look at the local election results, it was _ could make. if you look at the local election results, it was not - could make. if you look at the local election results, it was not clear. election results, it was not clear from _ election results, it was not clear from those _ election results, it was not clear from those that labour were on course — from those that labour were on course to — from those that labour were on course to get a majority. now the polls _ course to get a majority. now the polls have — course to get a majority. now the polls have expanded a bit to get a saying _ polls have expanded a bit to get a saying a _ polls have expanded a bit to get a saying a labour majority is coming, but i _ saying a labour majority is coming, but i think— saying a labour majority is coming, but i think whether it is propping up but i think whether it is propping up a labour government, because they fall short. _ up a labour government, b

so tories are sick of the tories. se ee— tories are sick of the tories. se ee t— tories are sick of the blunt, can't. and we need them to able to get to work. they to be able to get to work. they need get to work to look need to get to work to look after their families. so let's be to be be practical. we need to be green. to be clean, but green. we need to be clean, but we need to ourselves more we need to give ourselves more time. and we're not going to get there by we're not going to have everything by 2030. everything electric by by 2030. i in government i don't care who's in government because haven't infra because we haven't got the infra structure, we haven't got the cars and we got cars and we haven't got anything. well be anything. so we may as well be realistic now and the tories, i say the tories, the tories are under pressure to do this. well, the eu have already under pressure to do this. . well, the eu have already rowed tack— well, the eu have already rowed tack en— well, the eu have already rowed tack en tnetr— well, the eu have already rowed back on their plan- well, the

when it comes to tory mps, according to him, it is not a done deal.the one when they did achieve was over one issue, that can't necessarily be replicated across the country. necessarily be replicated across the count . , , ., ., ., , country. one uxbridge swallow does not a summer— country. one uxbridge swallow does not a summer make _ country. one uxbridge swallow does not a summer make as _ country. one uxbridge swallow does not a summer make as a _ country. one uxbridge swallow does not a summer make as a poet - country. one uxbridge swallow does not a summer make as a poet oncel not a summer make as a poet once said. there is some hope here, if you are rishi sunak, or conservative mps, who are very rattled about the future, you would much rather be able to go out summer wear labour... it didn't work out in labour's interest. this is a very specific issue, it doesn't affect most of the country. frankly, it is at the margins of what any general election is likely to be about. so, i don't think it quite works, and the tories are saying that, phew, it

so tories are sick of the tories. se ee— tories are sick of the tories. se ee t— tories are sick of theto work. they to be able to get to work. they need get to work to look need to get to work to look after their families. so let's be to be be practical. we need to be green. to be clean, but green. we need to be clean, but we need to ourselves more we need to give ourselves more time. and we're not going to get there by we're not going to have everything by 2030. everything electric by by 2030. i in government i don't care who's in government because haven't infra because we haven't got the infra structure, we haven't got the cars and we got cars and we haven't got anything. well be anything. so we may as well be realistic now and the tories, i say the tories, the tories are under pressure to do this. well, the eu have already under pressure to do this. . well, the eu have already rowed tack— well, the eu have already rowed tack en— well, the eu have already rowed tack en tnetr— well, the eu have already rowed back on their plan- well, the eu have already rowed back on their plan becau

it's like inciting people all inciting people to hate all tories tories . like carol vorderman, gary neville and gary lineker inciting hatred against conservative supporters, even those who are just small c conservatives . adam yes , carol conservatives. adam yes, carol vorderman is a massive hypocrite i >> -- >> she's as fake as her face and her body. she gives it out on twitter with this aggressive bile. and you know, attacks daily. yeah when she see matt hancock at the races , she was hancock at the races, she was laughing and joking in his company. i can't do that if i see an mp and i've seen many recently i've had a chat about what's gone wrong and i've challenged them on certain things. yes i do go for mps on twitter. i'm known for that . but twitter. i'm known for that. but if i see them in public, i will say the same thing . say the same thing. >> you know, a labour one told me it had a nice but detailed conversation with you. adam right, exactly that. >> so people think, you know, i'm mouthy i'm annoyed. i'm mouthy and i'm annoyed. i would say that

so why is the tories pensioners.erned about a tiny number of notional pensioners in outer london? >> because nothing is for free. everything be paid for everything has to be paid for and falls on the and that taxation falls on the poorest in society as well. that vat hits the poorest most. so the more things you say are for free actually they have to be paid for by somebody. and isn't it users of services it better that users of services pay it better that users of services pay than general pay for them rather than general taxation ? taxation? >> what you're saying is you >> so what you're saying is you care about pensioners. but care about the pensioners. but then actually then when i say that actually then when i say that actually the are taking away free the tories are taking away free travel pensioners, say travel from pensioners, you say that's london has that's not. remember, london has that's not. remember, london has that against putting extra that i'm against putting extra taxes the taxes on them. london has

tory is that fair tory politician. is that a fair assessment ? assessment?ecause at the end of the day, things i really day, one of the things i really want is policing in want to fix is policing in london, that affects london, and that affects everybody. it doesn't matter about your age, your background, what sex you how would you what sex you are. how would you do then? susan right. well, do that then? susan right. well, the first day in city hall, as the first day in city hall, as the mayor, be talking to the mayor, i would be talking to sir mark rowley to with sir mark rowley to discuss with him exactly we're going to sir mark rowley to discuss with himthe|ctly we're going to sir mark rowley to discuss with himthe metropolitan'e going to sir mark rowley to discuss with himthe metropolitan police; to sir mark rowley to discuss with himthe metropolitan police out get the metropolitan police out of special it's of special measures. it's absolutely vital. and how we get rid of the rogue officers that are within the metropolitan police and get them out . and

but the fact is, the tories managed to derail . is, the tories managed to derail labour and its policiescountry. is your messaging clearly failing to get through? ho. country. is your messaging clearly failing to get through?— failing to get through? no. the oint is failing to get through? no. the point is in _ failing to get through? no. the point is in the _ failing to get through? no. the point is in the general - failing to get through? no. the point is in the general election | point is in the general election there will be a general election. it's very difficult for the conservatives to wedge issues in each of the constituencies. in the end, what us together as a nation is that we don't have enough money being put into public services, the national health services on its knees, streets safe and our economy is a mess. we don't have enough growth. last week unifies the country and is what the election and selby was fought on and i suspect thatis selby was fought on and i suspect that is what the general election will be fought on. if the tories are not prepared to listen to the messa

not to the local tory mp. if you talk to i the local tory mp. if you talk to the local tory mp.tech and science sector - the local tory mp. if you talk to | the tech and science sector they the local tory mp. if you talk to - the tech and science sector they say they need more labs and homes and it is about making cities more densely populated. we have one of the least populated. we have one of the least populated cities in the western world. but there is more we have to do. this is a good start, but there is more that michael gove will have to do. it is more that michael gove will have to do. , ., ., is more that michael gove will have todo. , ., ., . , to do. it is not what necessarily was promised _ to do. it is not what necessarily was promised in _ to do. it is not what necessarily was promised in the _ to do. it is not what necessarilyj was promised in the manifesto. to do. it is not what necessarily i was promised in the manifesto. so what i'm going to ask you, you provide 300,000 houses a year? it was going to be a million. can you do it if you don't build on the green b

labour mirrors tory interesting. labour mirrors tory spends plans.s is a bit of an odd way to campaign. >> it is, but that's the way that campaigning happens in this country these days. happened country these days. it happened way 1997. you'll way back in 1997. you'll remember tony blair was remember when tony blair was trying to get back into government, get into government and successfully did. and labour committed themselves to ken clarke's spending plans and clarke's spending ban plans and afterwards ken clarke said they were bonkers. i wasn't going to stick to those spending plans myself if now the situation may be slightly different. and of course the conservatives, when they were in opposition in 20 years ago, they committed to labour's spending plans for quite a long time . quite a long time. >> the electorate looks at both parties and says there isn't really a paper between them. there's no jeopardy now in the tories saying, oh, don't vote for to for labour. they're going to spend your money. spend more of your money. they're us to the hilt.

so what can the tories do?ly of net actually do in terms of net zero? well it is a little bit tricky. >> they're sort of tied their own because, you say, own hands because, as you say, net is written into law net zero is written into law attempting net zero attempting to achieve net zero by but there are signs by 2050. but there are signs that the government might begin to back down on some of the specific measures that are specific measures that they are seemingly planning to introduce. so one of those measures which jacob rees—mogg explicitly said he should be scrapped is he thinks should be scrapped is the move to ban new sales of petrol and diesel cars by 2030. now the prime minister is still saying on the airwaves that they are still committed to that plan . but behind the scenes in downing street, i'm hearing that there's a little bit of discussion it is just discussion and it is just possible that the tories could push that ban back to later to more like 2040. another plan which michael gove has actually

but the tories did hold onto boris johnson's votes.'s former constituency of uxbridge in south ruislip in west london. that is despite a swing there of 6.7% to labour. the tories managed to capitalise on local anger over the planned expansion of the ultralow emission zone two outer london. under labour mayor sadiq khan. winning the seat by 495 votes. it's the local mp steve, the conservative saying that was the key issue, not mentioning the government or the prime minister. plenty more to come on those by—election results. now, time for a look at the weather. the weather may have a part to play if you have outdoor plans. not the most summery of weekends. it will be cool most summery of weekends. it will be cool, windy with some outbreaks of rain. how much rain? this chart shows how much over the next couple of days. there will be some parts of northern england and wales that see well over 50 millimetres of rain. a real soaking for some as this weather system approaches from the west. already bringing some rain into northern ireland thr

. this never voted tory.about it because i'd even think about it because at your party knows what at least your party knows what a woman idea this woman is. and the idea this issue no cut through is , i issue has no cut through is, i think, and also the idea think, wrong. and also the idea it's fault of the right, i it's the fault of the right, i think, for birds. it's think, is for the birds. it's not the right who's been saying that men be able to call that men should be able to call themselves and then go themselves women and then go into women's or changing into women's toilets or changing rooms. the right that's into women's toilets or changing roomzsaying the right that's into women's toilets or changing roomzsaying mene right that's into women's toilets or changing roomzsaying men shouldthat's into women's toilets or changing roomzsaying men should be t's into women's toilets or changing roomzsaying men should be able been saying men should be able to themselves women to declare themselves women and go

it's a terrible look for the tory party because it does make tory because it does make the tory party and more however, more divided. however, i wouldn't the tories doing wouldn't say the tories doing badly in the by—election is necessarily a given then necessarily like a given then that they'll lose the main election because there will be protest votes. and i think there'll a really low turnout there'll be a really low turnout actually blame. there'll be a really low turnout act|boris blame. there'll be a really low turnout act|boris johnson.. >> boris johnson. >> boris johnson. >> stupid . it just shows >> it's stupid. it just shows how ignorant was going to ask how ignorant i was going to ask about long boris as if it's about this long boris as if it's like long covid. >> if we rid boris, >> if we got rid of boris, everything would hunky dory. everything would be hunky dory. >> be great. boris >> it would be great. so boris is but look at those polls. >> benjamin. come on. even you can't blame boris johnson, because look at because actually, if you look at the boris left, he the po

these tory voters came out and the tories managed to hold on to uxbridge by a sliver. that, you know, they've talked about migrants, crime, migrants, trans rights, crime, etcetera maybe is this net etcetera, maybe it is this net zero policy that if the tories actually sort of made some kind of statement it, they of statement about it, they could around. yeah. could turn this around. yeah. >> worked them, >> and it worked for them, didn't they won didn't it? because they won because the ulez. but the because of the ulez. but the danger is that labour can danger of it is that labour can then dismiss it and that was danger of it is that labour can theraiismiss it and that was danger of it is that labour can theraiismiofft and that was danger of it is that labour can theraiismiofft and of1at was danger of it is that labour can theraiismiofft and of the vas just a one off because of the ulez. so it doesn't really indicate anything. you're indicate anything. but you're right, they because you've right, if they because you've got how got to ask the question how many people wa

the tories there at 45%, labour on 44%.— the expansion of london's ultra low emission zone. there was a 6.7% swing to labour — lower than the swing implied by recent polls and not enough to clinch it. here's professor sir john curtice again, on the takeaways for the labour leader. sir keir starmer will be delighted that his party has, for the first time in this parliament, recorded the kind of swing that labour have not achieved since the 1992—97 parliament. 0n the other hand, he will be worried that his party's election strategy apparently could not cope with a well targeted conservative campaign about the low emissions zone in uxbridge. i think almost undoubtedly, labour will want to ta ke to take lessons from that. so a win each for three parties — plenty for each of them to digest, but with still up to 18 months to go until a general election, a long way to go until the real test of public opinion. thank you. let's go back to chris, in selby and ainsty in north yorkshire. chris, the bottom line is, all the main parties,

the problem is the tories. you ask people in the tories. this country, do you feel better off today than you did in 2010, you will find very few people who answer yes and by elections generally aren't the most perfect indication. but when you've got selby as the 20,000 thousand tory majority that is expected to go labour , that is expected to go labour, that is more than an indication that it is over for the tour. >> my point is that would not be happening if boris was prime minister. >> but that's because you always have to find someone else to blame for the tories being useless. no, no, i'm blaming rishi sunak. >> he's the prime minister. what's wrong that? >> he's the prime minister. wh iss wrong that? >> he's the prime minister. wh is the ong that? >> he's the prime minister. wh is the thing that? >> he's the prime minister. wh is the thing thasunak is >> is the thing about sunak is blaming prime blaming the liberal prime minister. allowed. minister. he's allowed. >> only minister >> he's only prime minister because boris johnson couldn

she's the candidate the tory party. candidate for the tory party.et me tell you, this could fight back and it's could be the fight back and it's costing us net zero is hurting every one of us. it's not just the motorist . it's it really is. the motorist. it's it really is. and, you know , this is a fight and, you know, this is a fight back against the eco cult that we have to stop. look at what just stop oil are doing. look at what's happening to our economy. i think this could be a real chance for rishi. but he's got to go in. he's got to tuck into keir starmer, look at the trans issues , ask him what woman is. issues, ask him what a woman is. he fit, you know. exactly. he could fit, you know. exactly. and i think really, keir starmer thought this was going to be a knockout punch at the by elections. all it was was a nose and rishi has got a chance now to really do something, but he has to do it and do it properly. sam taylor well, before we break out, the party poppers of the tories to uxbridge , i tories holding on to uxbridge, i mean, was by a h

we have shown that we can win in tory areas as well, _ that we can win in tory areas as well, becausehanged. we are listening to the voters _ changed. we are listening to the voters. we are listening to their priorities — voters. we are listening to their priorities. and we know, they want to see _ priorities. and we know, they want to see a _ priorities. and we know, they want to see a credible plan to take us into the — to see a credible plan to take us into the future, not just for today's _ into the future, not just for today's problems, which have been caused _ today's problems, which have been caused by— today's problems, which have been caused by the conservatives, in the 13 years _ caused by the conservatives, in the 13 years of— caused by the conservatives, in the 13 years of their disastrous rule, but also, — 13 years of their disastrous rule, but also, a — 13 years of their disastrous rule, but also, a plan for the future of our young — but also, a plan for the future of our young people, forjobs, for productivity, our public services that we — productivity, our public serv

these tory voters came out and the tories managed to hold on to uxbridge by a sliver.hat, you know, they've talked about migrants, crime, migrants, trans rights, crime, etcetera maybe is this net etcetera, maybe it is this net zero policy that if the tories actually sort of made some kind of statement it, they of statement about it, they could around. yeah. could turn this around. yeah. >> worked them, >> and it worked for them, didn't they won didn't it? because they won because the ulez. but the because of the ulez. but the danger is that labour can danger of it is that labour can then dismiss it and that then dismiss it and say that was just the just a one off because of the ulez. so it doesn't really indicate anything. you're indicate anything. but you're right, they because you've right, if they because you've got many got to ask the question how many people want these net people really want these net zero be people really want these net zero financial be people really want these net zero financial insulated be people really want these net zero financial insulated

i've spoken to a number of tories , senior tories who've tories, senior tories who've been phone andu know what, uxbridge? think we uxbridge? i think, i think we might i think we might. might do it. i think we might. and this is the worst expectations in the expectations management in the world. wrong world. there's something wrong with it. these people are just world. there's something wrong with it. knocking ople are just world. there's something wrong with it. knocking on e are just world. there's something wrong with it. knocking on thee just world. there's something wrong with it.knocking on the pledges clearly knocking on the pledges that being that they know they're being sent good doors, maybe sent to the good doors, maybe the of high, high ranking the sort of high, high ranking mps sent to the mps are being sent to the conservative of conservative areas of the constituency. labour people. conservative areas of the cwas tuency. labour people. conservative areas of the cwas talking labour people. conservative areas of the cwas talking to labour people. conservative areas of th

but tories were successful.mp, conservative parliamentary mp, i should say , david warburton, should say, david warburton, that had been absent for about 18 months because of the allegations of drug abuse and misconduct and who had not delivered for his constituents. of course you're going to vote for change. and similarly in selby ainsty , you know nigel selby and ainsty, you know nigel adams, that left parliament was very to johnson , very close to boris johnson, wasn't going the house of wasn't going into the house of lords, but constituents there felt that he hadn't delivered for them and just walked away. and that's what made people sort of vote for change. so nobody was voting for something. i don't think in any area, anybody who voting for change who was voting for hope change or direction and everybody or a new direction and everybody was voting something. was voting against something. so it negative. a set of it was quite negative. a set of by elections. and i think that's something that we need to look

the tory vote is - i believe we have smashed it to pieces and the tory vote is in l pieces and the tory in freefall. but— pieces and the tory vote is in freefall. but across _ pieces and the tory vote is in freefall. but across the - pieces and the tory vote is in l freefall. but across the country pieces and the tory vote is in - freefall. but across the country are telling _ freefall. but across the country are telling us _ freefall. but across the country are telling us they— freefall. but across the country are telling us they feel _ freefall. but across the country are telling us they feel let _ freefall. but across the country are telling us they feel let down, - freefall. but across the country are| telling us they feel let down, taken for granted — telling us they feel let down, taken for granted by— telling us they feel let down, taken for granted by the _ telling us they feel let down, taken for granted by the conservatives, l for granted by the conservatives, who want — for granted by the conservatives, who want to _ for granted by the conservatives, who want to see _ for gra

the tories there at 45%, labour on 44%.ies�* way because of a local issue — the expansion of london's ultra low emission zone. there was a 6.7% swing to labour — lower than the swing implied by recent polls and not enough to clinch it. labour will certainly be asking why it fell short. so a win each for three parties. plenty for all of them to digest, but it could still be 18 months until a general election — a long way to go until the real test of public opinion. leila nothing there. chris is here, hotfoot off the train from selby and ainsty. well done and getting back in time! you've also spent time in the other two constituencies as well over the last few weeks. what is your take away from these results? it's a good question because we've had a blizzard of numbers, this deluge of rhetoric today and by—elections can be the quirky cousins of democracy because they get a greater amount of attention than any one seat would get at a general election, they are not about picking a government and they are ripe for people to prot

and the tories won't.hat. well that water, some of that. well i think all to achieve net think we all want to achieve net zero not, not when zero but, but not, not when they don't want it, we don't want to achieve at cost people achieve it at the cost of people not being able to heat their homes. >> i don't know the >> i don't know what the obsession zero is obsession with net zero is actually, because this everything anyway. everything is carpet anyway. so i bit. i find parts of it a bit. i think. i don't know whether the science is properly settled. i'd like more in—depth science is properly settled. i'd like aboutore in—depth science is properly settled. i'd like about the n—depth science is properly settled. i'd like about the science] discussion about the science itself we've itself that reaches how we've reached because feel reached that. and because i feel that there's a big money grab and there's of people and there's a lot of people making and that's making a lot of money and that's very detriment

something for the tories _ run-up to 1997. something for the tories to _ run-up to 1997.en - later this morning? it is. obviously even if - later this morning? it is. obviously even if we - later this morning? it is. | obviously even if we take later this morning? it is. - obviously even if we take the 0bviously even if we take the two results that we've got at face value — a swing of 7% in uxbridge and a swing of 24% — labour will be pretty delighted if they get anywhere between those two in a general election. so i think it has got to be, you know, where we look at that and sort of how we compare those two. 0bviously at that and sort of how we compare those two. obviously we can't take these by—elections as exactly what people would vote in a general election. but, like i say, it's a good result for labour tonight. they've obviously shown that they can do something even if it is because people are tired of the tory party and not coming out to vote, as the tories did fear — even if it is because of that, it is a good result for labour. can't deny that. , , , ., , ., that

but i don't the tories tonight. you. we'll speak very soon. but coming up in uncancel, fleet street icon kelvin gets into kelvin mackenzie gets stuck into not one, but two apologies heading nigel farage way heading nigel farage his way after his banking scandal. revelations man revelations awoke former bbc man and bank ceo have been left red faced tonight and kelvin is going to let rip on this very soon. but next in the media, buzz. legend ian botham buzz. england legend ian botham slams racism and slams a report into racism and cricket as a waste of time that's destroyed people's lives. so is society's obsession with race harm than good? race doing more harm than good? my race doing more harm than good? my in next. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey. who is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. look, a few of us have managed to see some sunny spells throughout today, but there are

but you have to give the tories they did the tories credit.n to it. the general election, but they fought that campaign very well and is very tough for labour and ulez. >> now, peter, a lot of the front the tory press front pages of the tory press today ditch net today telegraph saying ditch net zero, the same in zero, they're saying the same in the express. even the ft and the times are saying this could be an electoral wedge issue . do you an electoral wedge issue. do you think it would be very popular with tory voters? i'd say we've changed our mind on scrapping your changed our your cars. we've changed our mind we've mind on scrapping borders. we've changed on air changed our mind on clean air zones, the planet is zones, saving the planet is great, but we want to you great, but we want to save you a few quid. if they took that position, would be position, would that be a concern starmer? the concern for keir starmer? the labour party? >> no, i think rishi he >> no, i think rishi sunak if he wants advice from he's wants some advice from me,

tory? let's see what you vote? tory? let's see what my panel make of that.that, martin daubney gb news, former mep news, contributor and former mep and peter edwards. he's a former editor the labourlist at editor of the labourlist at peter himars. i'll start with editor of the labourlist at pete inheritance ll start with editor of the labourlist at pete inheritance tax. art with editor of the labourlist at pet well, ritance tax. art with editor of the labourlist at pet well, itance tax. art with editor of the labourlist at pet well, i don't tax. art with editor of the labourlist at pet well, i don't think't with editor of the labourlist at petwell, i don't think itnith editor of the labourlist at petwell, i don't think it will >> well, i don't think it will be abolished know as a be abolished and i know as a labour person you'd me to labour person you'd expect me to kind lot what the kind of criticise a lot what the government i honestly kind of criticise a lot what the goverthis nt i honestly kind of criticise a lot what the goverthis nt completely honestly

and for the conservatives here, it is for now. 20,000 tory majority overturned.ted his newest mp, the youngest mp who will sit in the house of commons, 25—year—old keir mather. the labour leader will be hoping that a win here proves that labour can perhaps take back any of those seats labour loss to the conservatives in the 2019 general election across the north of england, the so—called red wall seats. as for the issues here, there wasn't one particular issue that won it for labour. they were talking about the things everyone is talking about the things everyone is talking about the things everyone is talking about across the country — the cost of living, rising prices and nhs waiting lists, all the things that rishi sunak is himself prioritising. but if this was an end of term report for the government, i think the voters in selby would say, must do better. this think the voters in selby would say, must do better.— must do better. this was a big win for the liberal _ must do better. this was a big win for the liberal democrats - must do better. this was a big w

, king tory and i'm a proud tory, wet and ken.nt that ken man. but the point is that ken clarke and sirjohn major were not rewarded in the 1997 election for actually doing really good things with the economy. and labour's economic miracle in 1997 was off the back of that great groundwork. >> chris wild do you think that inherit tax is regressive ? inherit tax is regressive? people are effectively taxed twice , aren't they? twice, aren't they? >> yeah and you know, i'm kind of new to politics. i'm just getting into it. but like the last 12 months and i don't really know too much about it such, but it seems to me there's a bit of an armageddon going on and pull stuff and the tories pull out stuff like me, you know, like this for me, you know, i don't too much it to don't know too much about it to comment on it as such. well, it's just the idea, it, it's just the idea, isn't it, that you buy house that let's say you buy a house and spend your life and then you spend your life sort hard. sort of working hard. >> pay off the mortgage a

she used to a tory. used to be a to be a tory. she used to be a great pal of david cameron. remember her being so very nasty then about the labour party in the opposition . but the party in the opposition. but the other thing is, as you say , she other thing is, as you say, she currently a live currently has a live presentation on our national taxpayer funded broadcaster. we don't have any choice if we're going to listen to the bbc at all. we don't have any choice about paying for the licence fee. in fact, we can be in deep, deep trouble if we don't pay for the licence fee until fairly recently. you could find yourself going jail. yourself going to jail. >> yeah. still can. >> still can. yeah. still can. >> still can. yeah. still can. >> and not right. >> and that's not right. >> and that's not right. >> oh, that's >> brenda. oh, surely that's a fair point. if borders wants to become a hard left campaigner, that's now wants to be that's what she now wants to be absolutely fine. give up your show bbc. just like i show on the bbc. just like i would that would never believe tha

, king tory and i'm a proud tory, wet and ken. man. point that ken man. but the point is that ken clarke and sirjohn major were not rewarded in the 1997 election for actually doing really good things with the economy. labour's economic economy. and labour's economic miracle in 1997 was off the back of that great groundwork. >> chris wild do you think that inherit tax is regressive ? inherit tax is regressive? people are effectively taxed twice , aren't they? twice, aren't they? >> yeah and you know, i'm kind of new to politics. i'm just getting into it. but like the last 12 months and i don't really know too much about it such, but it seems to me there's a bit of an armageddon going on and pull stuff and the tories pull out stuff like for you know, like this for me, you know, i don't too much about to don't know too much about it to comment on it as such. well, it's idea, isn't it, it's just the idea, isn't it, that say you buy house that let's say you buy a house and you your life and then you spend your life sort hard. sort of w

but i don't the tories tonight.ll speak very soon. but coming up in uncancel, fleet street icon kelvin mackenzie into kelvin mackenzie gets stuck into not one, but two apologies heading nigel farage way heading nigel farage his way after his banking scandal. revelations man revelations awoke former bbc man and bank ceo have been left red faced tonight and kelvin is going to let rip on this very soon. but next in the media, buzz. legend ian botham buzz. england legend ian botham slams racism and slams a report into racism and cricket as a waste of time that's destroyed people's lives. so is society's obsession with race harm than good? race doing more harm than good? my race doing more harm than good? my in next. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey. who is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. look, a few of us have managed to see some sunny spells throughout today, but there are sti

coming up in this first hour, the tories ready first hour, are the tories ready to scrap inheritance tax to bolster their votes in the next general election? and if so , is general election? and if so, is this enough to save them ? then this enough to save them? then we'll be looking into the knock on effects of the swathes of pubuc on effects of the swathes of public sector pay rises. was this a necessary move from sunak or will it fuel the fire of inflation? ian and we'll be reflecting on the 12th of july parades across northern ireland. our legendary reporter dougie beattie will bring us his special report. but first, it's the news headlines with . aaron the news headlines with. aaron >> good afternoon. it's a minute past 12 here in the gb newsroom . councils in england and wales are calling for disposable vapes to in the uk next to be banned in the uk next yeah to be banned in the uk next year. local government year. the local government association says the 1.3 million vapes discarded every week are a litter, blight and a fire hazard which caused environmental damage due to the

they emerged, put tories. the liberals into, you know, effectively books. effectively the history books. >> happen >> it's not going to happen in this this short this in this short space. >> but need to >> maybe not, but they need to get together and start to form some kind of unified party. what are that you are these two parties that you might be referring to reclaim or reform? might be referring to reclaim or refclm? might be referring to reclaim or refci strongly argue. but >> i strongly would argue. but outside outside of gb news, outside of outside of gb news, outside of outside of gb news, outside the gb news viewership, which rising and outside which may be rising and outside our teeny world of our tiny, teeny world of twitter, where you and i might be tweeting and that, be tweeting this and that, almost one in this country almost no one in this country has even heard of them. >> think, you know, >> well, i think, you know, any party us party which says vote for us will leave alone. i'll vote will leav

they emerged, put tories. the liberals into, you know, effectively books. effectively the history books. >> happen >> it's not going to happen in this this short this in this short space. >> but need to >> maybe not, but they need to get together and start to form some kind of unified party. what are that you are these two parties that you might be referring to reclaim or reform? might be referring to reclaim or refclm? might be referring to reclaim or refci strongly argue. but >> i strongly would argue. but outside outside of gb news, outside of outside of gb news, outside of outside of gb news, outside the gb news viewership, which rising and outside which may be rising and outside our teeny world of our tiny, teeny world of twitter, where you and i might be tweeting and that, be tweeting this and that, almost one in this country almost no one in this country has even heard of them. >> think, you know, >> well, i think, you know, any party us party which says vote for us will leave alone. i'll vote will leav

really a traditional tory seat. labour base and they have overturned this 20,000 seat majority. what does it say about their chances going forward, given this was a conservative party was like 249th most vulnerable seat, no where near where they had been fighting for in a general election? absolutely. it was not on labour's target of seats for the next election. i think it is probably worth saying although keir will be the baby of the house, there is a good chance he will retain that seat because after the boundary changes, it becomes a little bit safer for the labour party than it is currently, selby and aine steve. i think that campaign more broadly you can't really overstate —— selby and ainsty. you can't overstate the result. what it indicates about labour's chances at the next general election. it points to a very red win rather than any slim path to victory for the conservative party. how will rishi sunak be feeling right now? we saw him out early doors with the uxbridge candidate who won. he said this shows w

whereas the bad as the tories. whereas the aspiration bad as the tories. have economic crisis, the tories have given the above , but the given any of the above, but the economic crisis the tories have caused in many ways it was caused with in many ways it was quite pragmatic for labour to roll back rachel reeves to say that we can't pledge to spend 28 billion or borrow 28 billion every year. >> okay . and the climate change >> okay. and the climate change target that that is, that is we're going to have we're going to have to leave it there. >> i don't know about you or he was with me. i still was confused with me. i still don't know starmer stands don't know what starmer stands for we'll for. still as confused. we'll have there. thank have to leave it there. thank you panel have to leave it there. thank you panel, bushra sheikh you to our panel, bushra sheikh and paul connew. next, motorists are change people are driving change and people are driving change and people are handbrake on are putting the handbrake on ulez congestion ltns ulez congestion charg

this is the final nail for the for the tories , isn't it? tories, isn't it? well , it doesn't, it doesn't >> well, it doesn't, it doesn't help them at all. and you're absolutely right that what the conservative party is meant to be party of tax cutters . be is the party of tax cutters. i didn't expect any tax cuts before the next election anyway . this, it seems to me , . this, it seems to me, absolutely impossible to do too, given the way that inflation is going. so really it's not a huge surprise that jeremy hunt has ruled them out , although at ruled them out, although at least he's ruling them out publicly now . but certainly it publicly now. but certainly it doesn't help the tories at all. and i think that the real problem in the immediate term that rishi sunak has got is to actually meet his five pledges by the end of the year. and of course , halving inflation was course, halving inflation was one of them. and as the chancellor has just said, that's looking pretty unlikely too. >> yeah , another cause of >> yeah, another cause of soaring inflation, of

tories can elections.s can sort about explain away sort of just about explain away that loss. in selby that somerton loss. but in selby , overturning a 20,000 tory majority , that feels as though majority, that feels as though that's where the momentum is. that's where that's where the country is looking. they are looking towards labour and i think we can expect keir starmer to be sounding pretty victorious this morning. >> and of course the tory mp , >> and of course the tory mp, they're effectively going off in a huff after not getting his his peerage from boris johnson. but rishi sunak today in number ten, mulling through all these issues, has he got a bit of time in that? we are now of course in the parliamentary recess so perhaps we haven't got those panicking backbenchers that we're on him. we're putting pressure on him. he's got weeks to try and he's got a few weeks to try and unsettle the ship. if >> well, i think it's a bit of a mixed bag for rishi sunak in that respect. yes, he gets a little bit

it was the tories. what won it. it was the tories. what lost it.ck if went into the next if they went into the next general election? as lord frost suggests, with promising a referendum on european human rights law and whether or not we should we should get out of the echr if they said, look, if you vote tory, this general election, we promise you a referendum and immediately enact the this referendum on the result of this referendum on the result of this referendum on the could that be the echr, could that be something that rishi could do to just keep people on the hook? >> first all, it nearly >> well, first of all, it nearly always is governments. >> it never is >> what lose it and never is opposition that win it. >> i mean, even with tony blair that was the to case be honest with you. look, on the ecr thing. >> yeah, absolute wrong that they interfere but you know what? it's not the echr. >> it's the ruddy law that tony blair introduce it not that long ago , which actually enshrined it ago, which actually enshrined it certain aspects in law sui