trayvon martin wasn't killed by a police officer. he was killed by a self appointed vigilante, a white-appearing latino. i would say in every regard in the case of trayvon martin we have seen an evolution of violence, million hoodies, in response to the killing of trayvon martin, ferguson, the resistance in ferguson would have been possible. you also see black twitter being used in an effort to build independent online power of really lifting up the forces of marginalized black folks who weren't able to communicate the things they cared about and you see that now of actually black folks in ferguson lifting up and telling their own stories and waiting for the media to catch up with them. since trayvon martin we've seen an evolution and a reemergence of black came. activism. >> we need to have you back, that deserves more analysis. dante, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> coming up. banks slapped with big fines for manipulating markets. >> plus. >> this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. and coming up, trying to rig market

the president interjected more than once. >> but my main message is to the parents of trayvon martin., if i had a son, he'd look like trayvon. trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago. >> reporter: the shooting death of michael brown introduced new erution. mr. obama used markedly tempered rhetoric last night, mixing deference to the judicial process with sympathy for the public outrage. >> we need to accept that this decision was the grand jury's to make. there are americans who agree with it, and there are americans who are deeply disappointed, even angry. it's an understandable reaction. >> reporter: america's first black president has willingly shouldered the burden of a nation fractured along racial lines. an example of genuine racial progress himself, mr. obama carries the unrealistic expectations of healing that divide, a president with a singular perspective is tested once more. major garrett, cbs news, the white house. >> pelley: and that's the cbs evening news for this night. for all of us at cbs news all around the world, good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captio

in 2012, teenager trayvon martin was shot and killed in florida. the man who killed him, george zimmerman, was acquitted. and in august, michael brown in ferguson. three highly pub lisized cases which served to reinforce what georgetown law professor paul butler says communities of color believe. >> often african american victims don't receive equal protection of law. regard to police, a lot of black people feel that the police are not there to serve and protect them. they have very different experiences with cops than white people do. >> reporter: according to a cbs news poll conducted shortly after the shooting in ferguson, 71% of blacks believe police are more likely to use deadly force against a black person than a white person, while a majority of whites do not believe race plays a role. a racial divide seen on twitter where comments ranged from, "i love our justice system, not perfect but tonight it is based on facts." to "we protest because we are being slaughtered." in the days after the brown shooting, just 35% of blacks thought that the i

. >> it's not the trayvon martin case, trayvon martin was unarmed, unprovoked that's a different case not allegedly caught in a theft. >> it's a different situation, it didn't involved a police officer. this was a lot less, it seemed as if there was much more of a reason for racial animus in the trayvon martin case. this kid was coming back from going to the candy store. there was not a situation where there was a confrontation between a police officer and someone who actually was and eyewitness testimony established this who was confronting the police officer. ed makes a great point with regard to class, if we go back 20 years to the oj case, oj simpson was in the upper classes. he was a very rich man, and yet race became a major issue and race was a part of the region that oj was acquitted during nullification. >> can't say race is only pulled in when there's a difference in class. >> the witnesses who corroborateed officer wilson's story were black. >> have we made some progress, however, i would ask friends of all if we made progress in philadelphia, if we made progress as a natio

the trayvon martin case isn't necessarily separate. i think one -- they stacked upon each other, and this is one of those cases where it's michael brownnd thats on the shoulders of trayvon martin, and i think they move forward together. >> john, i want to go back to you with that specific question. you are in ferguson, in the ashes of last night, you are there where they are reacting to the death of michael brown, so with that being said, if nothing happens moving forward, was it all for not. >> i am so sorry you have to repeat that last bit again. >> if there was nothing that happened no positive progress, will the people in ferguson believe that they were not only betrayed by a process that did not indict officer darren wilson, but also by ainge tear spilled out that burned the city parts of the city to the ground and nothing constructive came 80. >> well, the community -- my sense of sit that the community is police into pretty much two. there are probably -- not 50/50. let's put it this way, there are vast majority of people here i

. >> no, he is not trayvon martin and neither is darren wilson george zimmerman and so there are clear differences, and you know, we are not in the relitigation business so we won't go into the whole thing, but will is conflicting evidence and witnesses who were not believed who said otherwise and those who were believed who said that is what happened. >> and the evidence backed up officer wilson's version, and that is why the grand jury dismissed it. >> and cities in baltimore are doing things like diversity of police forces which has nothing to do with the elected -- and white officials can diversify the police forces. >> we will pause for a moment, and the summit of race relations in america will go more in depth a after this break. . >>> "meet the press "sigh [ male announcer ] we know they're out there. you can't always see them. but it's our job to find them. the answers. the solutions. the innovations. all waiting to help us build something better. something more amazing. a safer, cleaner, brighter future. at boeing, that's what building something better is all about. ♪ ao

stands in stark contrast to the personal comments the president made after another teenager, trayvon martin was shot two years ago by a civilian. >> if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. another way of saying that is that trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago. there are few african-american men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. that includes me. >> barack obama has had to shoulder the burdens and expectations of being the nation's first black president since before he was elected to the job. six years ago then candidate obama gave what was then a risky speech about his experience as a black man in america. his hand forced by the controversy over jeremiah wright. >> i can no more disown him than i can my white grandmother, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything this had world but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who pass her by on the street. >> that speech was praised. a year later he learned launching a conversation on race could have pitfalls when he criticized law enfo

then came trayvon martin. an unarmed black teen killed by a neighborhood watchman in 2012.jected more than once. >> my main message is to the parents of trayvon martin. if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. that trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago. >> reporter: the shooting death of michael brown used new caution. mixing jeopardy of the judicial process mixed with public outrage. >> the decision was the grand juries to make. there are americans who agree with it and americans who are deeply disappointed, even angry. it's an understandable reaction. >> reporter: america's first black president has willingly shouldered the burden of a nation fractured along racial lines. mr. obamaca carries the unrealistic expectations of healing that divide, a pretty with a singular is tested once more. major garrett, cbs news, the white house. >>> coming up after your local news on "cbs this morning," the parents of michael brown joins us in the studio. that's the "cbs morning news" for this wednesday. i'm anne-marie green. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vita

. >> an naacp office in d.c., ones seeking justice for mike brown and for trayvon martin before him. and while the weeks of protests leading up to the ferguson grand jury verdict were not in their favor, one organizer says, this movement has them in their corner. >> my message for those who are constructively moving forward trying to organize, mobilize and ask hard important questions about how we improve the situation, i want all those folks to know that their president is going to work with them. >> christof putzel, al jazeera, ferguson, missouri. >> joining us now from miami philipp agnew, executive director of dream directors, the association that brought the case of trayvon martin into the national spotlight. phillip, thank you so much for being with us. how are we seeing the protesters across the country, in the wake of the grand jury's decision different from previous movements that we've seen? >> well, i say there are a lot more similarities than differences. but what's different is, in this moment, based on the reaction, the very human reaction from people right there in can

it shows an illustration of mike brown walking around with an illustration of trayvon martin.is on a national level in the trayvon martin instance and we have not. what does that mean for this country that we have not dealt with it? >> we have this conversation over and over again. people come to the conversation with a sort of amnesia and forget we had it before, also the parameters of the conversation are so narrowly defined as to define racism as a personal hatred towards black people. we're not then dealing with the systematic ideas that uphold racism and white supremacy in this country and then lead to a death of trayvon martin or mcbride, on and on and on. what we haven't dealt -- we refuse to deal with it is the idea -- the fact -- the foundation of this country is racism and white supremacy. and we are -- all of our institutions uphold that. >> depressing and yet it's really actually a hopeful sign that the two of you are out there among so many people trying to keep this going, and keep people's spirits going in this situation. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> t

matter. >> and also after trayvon martin >> and also after trayvon martin was killed, that's where they was killed, that's where they found out with alec and their found out with alec and their influence on state election influence on state election returns, before trayvon martin returns, before trayvon martin no one knew what alec was. no one knew what alec was. part of the problems for part of the problems for democrats is they are in many democrats is they are in many ways a national party. ways a national party. whereas the republicans have whereas the republicans have focused on being a 50-state focused on being a 50-state party. party. howard dean told democrats we howard dean told democrats we better focus on a 50-state better focus on a 50-state strategy because they don't want strategy because they don't want to see a repeat of 2010. to see a repeat of 2010. that's part of the issue here. that's part of the issue here. you got so think bigger. you got so think bigger. the white house admitted they a the white house admitted they a strong situation in states in strong situation

we see it in ferguson, trayvon martin and the like. you look at north carolina, and the idea that you would tie the republican to the shooting of trayvon martin because of his position on stand your ground is a gross distortion. but it's, again, playing to the idea that there's voter suppression efforts by the residence, so anything the democrats do to rouse the black turnout is legitimate. i think it's wrong-headed, i think it's unfair, not right, but let me quickly add, you also have had republicans, conservative talk radio saying things like obama is bringing ebola over here as payback for slavery. i find it disheartening, painful if you look at it from the historical perspective. when landrieu is speaking, she's one of the three white women running in the south. they need the black vote aggressively. is it true that the south is unfriendly, has a history being unfriendly to blacks? yes. is it true that white women have had difficultly running in the south? yes. i don't think that anything she had is wrong. it's that she pushed the

trayvon martin is now a civil rights hero. >> trayvon martin wasn't doing anything wrong but michaelwn was. >> he wasn't performing a courageous act. that is what civil rights leaders did you can't say trayvon martin did anything to be considered a heroic figure. nor can you say that michael brown stealing cigars did. >> thank you very much. i have to go. we'll be right back. that bear cat vehicle. about eight of them piled out and went inside the auto tire store that we showed you a few moments ago. it was in the process of being vandalized with the kids inside. it looks like the kids got out from the inside. by the time the officers showed up, you got a couple of them standing sentry in front. and then i ballpark it about eight guys. still, as you see up and down the streets, people driving. peeling out their tires. you get a look at that. the taco bell has been broken into. just over here, there's a gas station. we watched that one being looted. the kids running in through the front door coming out with arm loads of whatever they could carry. we are right across the street from th

in the aftermath of flash point ferguson and the deaths of young trayvon martin and jordan davis will minority voters find the value of engaging in political process? it is a guess of the left and right. number 2, will voter i.d. laws, voter suppression to others, tamp down those underrepresented voices? just last week, an investigation by greg palast, uncovered irregulatesirregularities, in me state disproportionately tags minorities especially these with common names. >> there clearly is an effort to suppress the votes of african americans and young people. elderly people. clearly, there is a kind of partisan cherry picking that's going on. >> so you're talking about probably over a million people that voted twice. >> but conservative activists point to states that carefully police their voter rolls. >> have you double bagged voters in the past years? >> we have made referrals. whether prosecutors have prosecuted, we don't have good data on them. it's not like blanket going out and arresting somebody, you have to push for a crime. >> they are pushing for more careful i.d. checks. wi

their tactics in invoking the death of trayvon martin is divisive. is about making sure that voters are aware of the local issues. joe johns has more for you. >> reporter: with the biggest weapon in president obama mostly sidelined, some democrats went for the heart strings in a desperate bid to get blacks in southern states to the polls. >> he made it harder for communities of color to vote. >> reporter: invoking the death of trayvon martin in florida as a reason to vote in north carolina. a radio ad generated by majority leader harry reid's super pac dedicated to maintaining democratic control of the senate, hit the republican candidate for supporting the kind of controversial state statute made infamous in the martin case. putting race at the center of the senate race. >> -- led the effort to pass the stand your ground laws that caused the death of trayvon martin. >> reporter: and republicans called out the democrats in a tough radio ad of their own. >> you heard this race hustling kay hagan ad? >> reporter: there's more in georgia, flyers encoura

trayvon martin is now a civil rights hero. >> trayvon martin wasn't doing anything wrong but michaelrown was. >> he wasn't performing a courageous act. that is what civil rights leaders did you can't say trayvon martin did anything to be considered a heroic figure. nor can you say that michael nor can you say that michael brown stealing cigars the conference call. the ultimate arena for business. hour after hour of diving deep, touching base, and putting ducks in rows. the only problem with conference calls: eventually they have to end. unless you have the comcast business voiceedge mobile app. it lets you switch seamlessly from your desk phone to your mobile with no interruptions. i've never felt so alive. get the future of phone and the phones are free. comcast business. built for business. that bear cat vehicle. about eight of them piled out and went inside the auto tire store that we showed you a few moments ago. it was in the process of being vandalized with the kids inside. it looks like the kids got out from the inside. by the time the officers showed up, you got a couple of t

he said would be, if he had a son he would look like trayvon martin.ut we have not heard him take on black on black crime. you know, we had a brief allusion to that in the speech, in a recent speech where he talked about how the law enforcement was needed for poor communities, black communities. but i think he could do so much both as president and first african-american hold that post. he could do a lot to help confront not just one side of the equation. it could be he legitimate concerns that people have about the remnants of racism. but also about the challenges facing the black community. in chicago rahm immanuel is the mayor and certainly the attorney general of the united states in chicago to get it under control in that town because that's the most acute example. i want to be fair as always to everyone involved here. there are a lot of things floating around. we will do more reporting on this down the road. mr. rove, thank you. when we come right back we will talk about the police chief in st. louis involved in keeping order after the grand jury

there is no legitimate way to time tom death of trayvon martin.here's no legitimate way to look at that little kids with their hands up to say somehow that's the responsibility of a republican who voted for a stand to revoke that's a distortion to me. democrats say an eye for an eye because we are worried about voter id and all of the rest. the basic point is let's look at the map and what you sees democrats looking at let's say a state like georgia 2012 i think it's 1 and a half million black voters. then you come back to 2010 and it's about half of that 700,000 or so who turnout for a mid term election. democrats know they have to pump up that turnout just as a sign of pump up the women turnout in those states. >> why not be honest about it? if you want to make the argument and say african american communities if you don't get out there and vote you will wind up in a situation like you had in ferguson missouri where you feel disempowered, et cetera. now you have completely dodged the question rather than take it out and just be honest about the

imagine that, trayvon martin is now a civil rights hero.spoken of as emma till. >> trayvon martin wasn't doing anything wrong and michael brown was. >> he wasn't performing any courageous acts and that's what others did. trayvon martin did nothing to be say she a civil rights leader or heroic leader, not like michael brown stealing cigarettes did. >> back with more from ferguson. the conference call. the ultimate arena for business. hour after hour of diving deep, touching base, and putting ducks in rows. the only problem with conference calls: eventually they have to end. unless you have the comcast business voiceedge mobile app. it lets you switch seamlessly from your desk phone to your mobile with no interruptions. i've never felt so alive. get the future of phone and the phones are free. comcast business. built for business. where we now see police on the scene of a business that is being vandalized. mike tobin is there live. mike? >> we are just watching the tactic calking -- the tactile officer arrive in the vehicle. eight piled out a

during the trayvon martin protest. chief sean whent said his police were caught flat flatted. this time they will be ready. they cancel all vacation days and time off. san francisco police already carrying riot gear. is. >> three people are in custody for leading police on a high speed chase. they brought a toddler along for the ride. it started when police said they robbed a safeway store in castro valley. they took off on an suv with police following on westbound 980. she told police her two-year- old was this the creek. police caught up with the other suspects at a home in oakland. the toddler is okay. >>> well those suspects may never have gotten out of the parking lot if there were security guards. but sometimes, guards can't be everywhere. or can they? tonight, only on 5, joe vasquez shows us some crime fighting robots now on patrol. joe? >> reporter: here they are liz. security robots hard at work. this is not a hollywood set. this is the mountain view headquarters of night scope. the makers of these robots, now, they are not armed. they are not going to chase after a b

tillis running for senate in north carolina, in it, reed's pac blames tillis for the death of trayvon martin. >> tillis won't fight for us, instead he made it harder for communities of color to vote. by restricting early voting and voter registration, tillis even led the effort to pass the type of laws that killed trayvon marvin. >> it's a password. >> i agree. racism, we're in it and where you guys are pure and don't ever get yourselves into trouble. >> all right, let's bring it around the table. dana? >> i think this morning the "new york times" had an article saying that actually early voting is going well for democrats, actually even better than they expected. that's what the "new york times" said, bob, i'm just quoting the "new york times." also just recently in the last hour, a new poll in north carolina shows that tom tillis is up with independents double digits. that race is extremely close, i think it's too close to call. but if you're trying to win over independence. i think tom tillis is doing a lot better than this, than this is what bob is saying, that basically anything you can

>> right so we definitely had a longer reminding conversation after trayvon martin.hael brown's murder is different in our household for a variety of reasons. one, my son is a senior in high house. martin was a different age bracket. brown just graduated from high school. my son is about to graduate from high school. my son saw even more of myself in this situation than trefi ia mart martin. every time my son leaves the house, i tell him be a good boy. we recognize that the world views him somewhat hostile depending upon where he is. i remind him in all situations, be a good boy. >> that's part the conversation that needs to be had but wendy, we also know that the world works a little differently as much as our kids can behave. the world out there is a rough and tough place. we also know, wendy, that this is a conversation that needs to be had with all teenagers, irrespective of race because it affects us all. >> you know all children, michaela. my children happen to be beracial. when we have that conversation, it's not about race, it's about respecting police office

we saw this in '92, rodney king, and now from trayvon martin forward.t you are seeing around the globe, what happened in ferguson is a microcosm of something that is broader. negative interaction with police is one thing. a systemic assault on black body is another issue. what people are speaking out about. we heard the young man before we came on. >> young lady. young lady. >> young lady, excuse me. i couldn't see. i could only hear. i had enough. my brother, have had enough. they can't walk to the store. that's a since of what it means to be young and black and outside every single day. men, women. their body have literally been criminalized. they're tired of it. >> okay. are these live pictures we're looking at in oakland. as we are interviewing you guys, protests in oakland, california. i look to give affiliates credit. ktvu, without them we wouldn't have the pictures from kes coas coast. earlier, we saw, los angeles. and the interview, marc lamont hill, from one of the protesters in los angeles. we will keep the pictures up and talk. i want to move

, along with his ex-wife, sybrina fulton, co-founded the trayvon martin foundation. tracy, thanks so much for being with us. i do appreciate it. we keep on saying, none of us can understand what it must be like to go through what michael brown's parents are going through right thousand. you are someone who, i think, understands it all too well. it's got to be so difficult to have to grieve in such a public way. >> i think it's tough. first of all, i just would like to take my hat off to the brown family for standing up for their son and continuing to keep his name in the forefront and keep his name focused. it's tough to grieve in public, especially as men. it's very tough for us to grieve in public. and one thing i've tried to relate to mr. brown is that there's no certain way to grieve and there's no time period on your grieving process. all of us grieve differently. but it's painful and it's going to be a long process. >> we also, lewis, had the stepfather of michael brown react the other night when the decision from the grand jury became public, and he was shouti

they do it for short-term gain but there are long term consequences such as with trayvon martin andthis. you look at something like north carolina, there's voter suppression efforts by the mocrs republicans, so anything the democrats do to rouse the blackn turnout is legitimate. i think it's wrong headed, it'su not fair, it's not right. you also have had in this obama election, republican talk radio saying obama is bringing ebola p outla here as pay back for disht slavery. i find it disheartening, painful if you look at it from a in historical t perspective. they need the black vote aggressively. is it true thahat the south is unfriendly, has a history of being unfriendly to blacks? is it true that white women have had difficulty running the south? sou yes.s.ye is. don't see anything wrong, after distancing herself from president obama. m >> let me bring brit in, you anu i, to put this gently, have been through a bunch of midterms.er >> this looks like a bunch of t midterms in the sense that particularly with the arithmetic of the states where members of the senate s are up, being more

he said would be, if he had a son he would look like trayvon martin.e have not heard him take on black on black crime. you know, we had a brief allusion to that in the speech, in a recent speech where he talked about how the law enforcement was needed for poor communities, black communities. but i think he could do so much both as president and first african-american hold that post. he could do a lot to help confront not just one side of the equation. it could be he legitimate concerns that people have about the remnants of racism. but also about the challenges facing the black community. in chicago rahm immanuel is the mayor and certainly the attorney general of the united states in chicago to get it under control in that town because that's the most acute example. i want to be fair as always to everyone involved here. there are a lot of things floating around. we will do more reporting on this down the road. mr. rove, thank you. when we come right back we will talk about the police chief in st. louis involved in keeping order after the grand jury dec

we see this in the ferguson and trayvon martin shooting alike. >> former democratic congressman dennisk you when we get back if you think the race card was played. >> tillis won't fight for us. instead, he made it harder for people to vote by restricting voter registration. and pass the stand your ground law that caused the shooting death of trayvon martin. >> you agree, congressman, that's the race card, right? we don't have to argue about that. >> well, there's a race dimension certainly. as is there a racial dimension to voter suppression. as is there a racial dimension to the economy right now with such massive unemployment and underemployment of35w african-americans. so, you know, race is a factor in our society. you have to -- >> but these democrats in close races feel they're going to lose so they're trying to gin up anger in this case to one of their core constituency, the black community. they're playing the race card, dividing us. let me put up a screen, a flooier in north carolina that actually reads if kay hagan will begin. vote in 2014. the words are superimposed as you c

tie tom tillis, who is the house speak he, the the state house speaker to the shooting death of trayvon martin in florida? how does it make sense other than playing the race card? >> i think you're isolating one particular part of the north carolina race. i know kay hagan -- >> it was paid for by your senate leader. >> well, i can tell you that race has been run on the issues. and i think kay hagan is democrats are proud the way that race has been run. and i believe kay hagan will win. >> thank you for coming in today to talk with us, sir. >> my pleasure. good talking to you. >>> coming up, is the forecast for election night getting a little clearer? our campaign cowboys, karl rove and joe trippi join me to round up the numbers. and a 2014 top safety pick plus rating. cost of entry? a fortune. until now. hey sarah, new jetta? yup. can i check it out? maybe at halftime? introducing lots of new. the new volkswagen jetta. isn't it time for german engineering? this is kathleen. setting up the perfect wedding day starts with her minor arthritis pain, and two pills. afternoon arrives and feeling goo

as in the case of trayvon martin's killing, what african-americans asked for was an arrest and you'llall in the trayvon martin case, the arrest of george zimmerman would not have happened without protests from young people and the community coming out and demanding justice. so the community didn't come out the first day and say, convict darren wilson. they are saying, look at what we've seen. isn't this enough to justify an arrest? so we've been waiting for the process. if you look at what has happened in the last six weeks, the community has been peacefully protesting and waiting for the legal system, for the grand jury. >> jim, let me ask you about the national leadership in all of this. obviously we're in the second term of our first black president. our attorney general is also black. is there anything that the president could have done in this situation to remedy the things people around this table are talking about that he has not done? >> the issue here is trust. what does it mean for a community not to trust their law enforcement? so michael brown is the issue. ferguson is the

trayvon martin gets killed. and that's the only reason we know about stand your ground laws. it was supposed to be about tax policy, and they have been funding stand your ground laws. what have we talked about? police pore fitchers, literally deciding, oh, we want that, and the assets, in the court system, 20% of the budget coming through fines. >> and this is an interesting point, roland. these fines are often traffic stops. and most of the drivers in ferguson are black, and they get tickets for just about everything, and some of the jurisdictions, they let the people go and come back and show the police, fix your headlight, and you can't pay the ticket. and now you have a warrant. and you can't pay it. and now you have a record. an entry point for the criminal justice system. >> every house in ferguson, the numbers came down to three warrants per household in the entire city. so it came as if literally, the funding would be the abilities of various people. so that goes in saying, you know what? we're not going to spend money in these area stores, and not sit here and keep f

and the police chief has admitted that his officers were caught flat footed during the trayvon martin protest calling that an intelligence failure and that won't happen again. anne makovec, kpix 5. >>> 5:04. today jews are returning to a jerusalem synagogue where five people were killed yesterday. a police officer was the fifth victim after the attack by two palestinian cousins, shot and killed by police. the other four were rabbis including three born here in the united states. one of them was rabbi coleman levine from southern california. >> beyond horrific as this is, common to live and die in the land in jerusalem in prayer, that's the way we would all want it to happen. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has ordered the demolition of the homes of the attackers. >>> the san jose police officer charged with raping a woman while on duty is facing new allegations this morning. prosecutors say officer geoffrey graves raped a woman in a hotel room during a domestic disturbance call last year. she is now filing a lawsuit claiming the officer attacked another woman before and t

what do you think about invoking trayvon martin?o in a different direction because i got to call out and do some truth telling. one of the top issues against african american women is gun violence and one issue not being talked enough about is rolling back stand your ground laws that the african american community disapprove of. so why is it that in this country we can talk about women's equity, we can talk about gay andless b lesbian issd when you have a conversation that targets african americans, can you believe they are doing that? it's a double standard and we should talk about it. >> is invoking a particular case in one state involving a young -- >> it is about gun violence and stand your ground laws. we all understand what the trayvon martin case meant. it was about these outrageous gun laws that african americans and just parents in urban areas overall are paying a high price for. democrats should talk more about it. >> donna brazil showing photographs from ferguson. is there a double standard here or is this crossing a line

in the case of trayvon martin -- >> even if the evidence suggests that michael brown was running away and -- >> well, the witness he are in conflict. and the state of mind is the state of mind of the shooter. not of the reasonable person. the objective reasonable person. it's the subjective shooter. so the question is: should we rethink the law of self defense? so that it bends towards justice? >> right. >> and so that is the question that i come to after all my many years of doing this work. >> wow, rethink the law of self defense. >> or even add to that earlier we talked about what is this overall question of what is justice, right? for how do we find justice in an injustice system when it's often criminalized, harassing and profiling black and brown people every single day. >> it's what the public deserves, that's justice. that's -- >> the ream trouble -- >> where is michael sandell from harvard when i need him? >> the huge irony here is it's the same thing th the o.j. simpn trial pointed out. the die co die cot dichotomy ofe system. we come together around other issues but when it

. >>> "outfront" next, the mothers of michael brown and trayvon martin. two women who now share an incredibly painful bond. what's ahead for the brown family and protests now growing around the country. 37 states have planned demonstrations tonight. you are looking at los angeles on the left, crowds gathering with, and new york city on the right. our miguel marquez says the crowd is growing very rapidly. police have shut down one of the three major arteries from new jersey, completely shut down, because of the protests. we'll be right back. hello... i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about americas favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal. and we're here in detroit with our amazing team members. the best part about working with quicken loa

the police chief has admitted that his officers were caught flatfooted during the trayvon martin protest calling it an intelligence failure. he says that will not happen again. live in the newsroom, anne makovec, kpix 5. >>> a deadly crash closing parts of southbound 680 in martinez last night. chp says that around 5:00, a honda pilot sideswiped a car then hit another car before landing on its roof. the 66-year-old woman driver of the pilot was killed. five other people were injured. >>> three people were arrested for allegedly leading cops on a high-speed chase. but that's not all. there was a toddler in the car. it all started when police say catrina freeman, marcus trent and tiffany thurman robbed a safeway in castro valley. they took off in an suv with police following on westbound 580. the suv stopped to let thurman out then took off again. she was arrested and told police her 2-year-old was in the vehicle. police caught up with the other suspects at a home in oakland. the toddler is okay. >>> today, jewish worshippers are returning to a jerusalem synagogue where five people were ki

. >> mark, you know, when weeard the president talking about the death of trayvon martin, some of hisersonal. and i'm wondering, is that what you wanted to hear more from the president? because, you know, you can't ignore the obvious. and that is that president obama is the nation's first black president. you're talking about an issue in ferguson, missouri, where clearly there is a long history here in terms of race relations. what is it you want to hear? >> i do want that. i mean, when the president said, if i had a son, he would look like trayvon, he was making a racial signal. that resonated with people. i don't need the president to be the judge and jury here. i do need the president to speak up about an issue affecting all of us. this is a national issue. i don't want him to speak because he's black. i want him to speak because he's the president and the entire nation's eyes are fixed on this. and whenever we're talking about ferguson, he's talking about immigration. we're talking about the economy, he's talking about health care. >> that's exactly -- >> ben -- >> you need to be