now we have trent franks.s a member of congress, saying yesterday that women -- we don't have to worry about rape because women don't get pregnant when they get raped because their body knows to turn it off. 1-866-55-press the toll free number. back to your comment on that. but we just want to take a quick break this morning. we have a very special guest calling from moscow. there is a plan over there. for the world expo. moscow is competing with other great cities to host the world expo in 2020. our guest this morning president vladimir putin president putin why is it important to have the world expo in moscow? >> ladies and gentlemen i'm delighted to have members at the international exhibitions bureau. after the warm and rich experience -- >> bill: how about this. >> >> bill: he sounds a little bit like borat. first time anybody has ever heard putin speak in english. >> that's fascinating. it is not bad. >> bill: he did this video for the people who are making the decision about where to send the world expo

trent franks. because this is trent franks' crusade. ks was speaking about a bill he introduced to the house judiciary committee, a bill that has literally zero political future but allows trent franks to make on the record statements like this. >> i don't think any of us would argue that a child should be killed because of the sins of an evil rapist. what we need to do is be harder on the rapist. i wonder how many of my colleagues on the other side would say we should suggest death penalty for the rapist, but they certainly do for the child. >> franks' bill bans abortions nationwide after 20 weeks. now, this is a reintroduction and expansion of a bill that franks previously drafted to apply only to washington, d.c. similar statewide laws like one in arizona, for instance, have been struck down by federal appeals courts. and the constitutionality of the franks bill is at best highly dubious. >> this legislation is especially dangerous because it is a direct challenge to the supreme court's ruling in roe versus wade. it contains a nearly

what were your reactions to trent franks' comments.

trent frank's abortion claim and the manly republican party. there's not one woman on the panel. if they push legislation like frank's bill that ban abortion after 20 weeks don't they have an optics problem because of people behind all of this are men. >> again, this goes back to last year. i really am surprised where how many months past the great self-examination report that the republican national committee commissioned and that the party still hasn't figured out how to even talk about this issue much less deal with it. i just find really surprising. >> richard, the irony here is because of science, because children are more viable, fetuses are more viable than ever republicans are gaining ground in polls on the abortion issue. why not leave it at that. argue on the merit, on the science instead of claiming that rape does not lead to pregnancy. that's silly. >> a lot of fellow republicans asking why that was brought up by trent frank. thank you so much. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> 10-year-old sara is resting this morning in a hospital in philadelphia after a six ho

the trent/franks bill for a nationwide 20-week abortion ban is going to get a full vote on the houseor tomorrow. for that republican national abortion ban moment in the sun vote tomorrow, they really tried to put a shine on it this time. first of all, they've taken the bill out of the hands of its sponsor, trent franks after he started opining in committee last week about rape and the innocence of rape causing pregnancy, they decided it was a good idea to take it away from trent franks. they gave it to a woman republican member of congress to bring forward for him instead. they also added in exemptions for his ban for rape and incest. kind of. in wisconsin, in the new republican bill, you have to prove it by going to the police or the republicans will not believe you that it was really rape. >> there are many reasons why women don't report abuse. why force them to? the only reason we were given in the markup is that women lie. so the authors of this bill apparently believe that women are too dishonest to be believed when they state they were raped or the victims of incest. that's a h

can not make that decision, herself, with her family or her doctor, trent franks will decide that for you. that passed out of the frank subcommittee with all the republicans voting in favor. it's expected now to pass the full judiciary committee tomorrow with, again, all of the republicans voting in favor. then eric cantor says he will put it on the house floor next week for a full house vote which will, undoubtedly pass, because republicans have the majority in the house and they want to vote for this. it will not become law because democrats will not let that happen either in the senate or in the white house, but still, this is what republicans are doing with the power that they've got in the house of representatives. with their power that they've got in the states, actually they're even being more aggressive. republican governance in wisconsin has already closed half the clinics in that state that provide abortion because they defunded planned parenthood and it had that effect. now antiabortion activist republican governor scott walker says he looks forward to signing a bill soon t

they voted on the trent franks abortion ban before now, too, but never made it apply federally to the whole country like the ban they passed today would. they've never gone this far before. asked for a decision to put this on the house floor for a vote, republican house speaker john boehner was as clear about this as he possibly could be. >> listen, jobs continues to be our number one concern. >> jobs, jobs, jobs. joining us now is adelle stan, senior washington correspondent for rh reality check which covers reproductive health and justice issues. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> you were first to report congressman burgess' rather extraordinary analysis of fetal behavior in that hearing room. how did you end up in that hearing room hearing that argument. >> well, rachel, actually i wasn't even in the hearing room because i called my source on the hill and said, rules committee hearing, do i really need to be here? he said, nothing happens there. i thought, okay, i'll watch this stream. i drank a lot of coffee. and was able to stay awake through the wh

what were your reactions to trent franks' comments. >> he's also someone who wanted to amend the civil include that you can't have an abortion based on race. so i mean the guy is whacked out anyway. i hate to say it but i guess i agree with gomez, what a moron. i think more seriously than this, we've seen this kind of legislation cropping up in the states. we've now seen it here on capitol hill. and there's two things. right? one is, these men have decided that women's reproductive freedom and help is talth is th they're going to keep stoke th ire of the base. i think a lot of us are really sick of that. i wish they'd go find some other subject. then secondly, on a very serious note, what's dangerous about this is that the legal strategy is to try to get a case to the supreme court to try to actually challenge roe versus wade very directly. that's when this becomes very serious. you are right, these fetal pain bills, the evidence suggests that that is completely inaccurate. that has not stopped people from like scott walker from introducing yet another vaginal probe requirement for wom

congressman trent franks, the bill's sponsor, will not be leading the debate today.ast week he sparked controversy by claiming the inconsistent -- there's no evidence of rapes resulting in pregnancies and that it is very low. instead co-sponsor marsha blackburn of tennessee will be in charge. she told craig melvin today that it's what the people want. >> this is something that the american people have said you need to do something about this. women have said you need to do something about these late-term abortions. it is -- there's a tremendous amount of public support for taking an action, for putting a ban on these late-term abortions. >> joining me now is nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. kelly, we are now starting, as we pointed out, the set of the rules here. what's been the reaction? you're hearing even some republicans who are cautious or worried about this direction of this bill? >> reporter: knowing that this would get so much attention because it is one of the most passion-inspiring issues in the country, there are some republicans and some le

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arizona governor trent franks would ban abortion nationwide at 20 weeks.or pregnancies that resulted from rape or incest. the bill even specifically establishes a nationwide ban on having an abortion in the event you find out your fetus is nonviable, it cannot live. a determination of that sad circumstance is often not made until 20 weeks into the pregnancy, but if you find out tragically that the fetus has no brain or no skull or its lungs are not going to be developed and it cannot survive, trent franks, his nationwide abortion ban would apply to those cases specifically as well. so if your doctor tells you your pregnancy cannot produce a baby that will live, republican congressman trent franks of arizona will nevertheless force you to carry the nonviable fetus to term and go through childbirth because he says so, nationwide, no exceptions. a woman cannot make that decision herself, or with her family or her doctor, trent francs will decide that for you. that passed out of the frank subcommittee with all the republicans voting in favor. it's expected now

in some instances -- and they also put marcia blackburn as the face of that and pulling trent franksa little bit. in some instances i think there is some realization that they have to at least put a different face and a different sort of framing on some of these issues. but also i think if you look at that, faith and freedom coalition, the line-up there, all of those people were, to be frank about, it they were losers. paul ryan, sarah palin, gary bauer ran for president in 2000, lost. all of these people have tried their ideas in the marketplace and they lost. the republican party is supposed to be the party of the market place, the marketplace of ideas, free enterprise, but they keep going back to these same people and same ideas and arguing to themselves that maybe if we say it differently this time or maybe if those -- there's also this myth that 6 million white people stayed home in 2012, so that gets them around the whole idea of this demographic edge that democrats have. so it's just interesting that they keep, you know, bringing the same ideas, the same people out, but you kn

republican trent franks makes a stunning allegation against the democrats. >> it's democrats that keep the rape issue into this debate. they have done it ever since roe versus wade. >> first, i'm taking your questions. ask ed live. that's ahead. stay with us. all business purchases. so you can capture your receipts, and manage them online with jot, the latest app from ink. so you can spend less time doing paperwork. and more time doing paperwork. ink from chase. so you can. ♪ even if it's so wrong ♪ i wanna scream out loud ♪ boy, but i just bite my tongue ♪ ♪ this one's for the girls messin' with boys ♪ ♪ like he's the melody and she's background noise ♪ [ volume decreases ] thanks, mom! have fun! you too. ♪ ♪ then goes home...ly goes big... a mother sees the light... a son explores new worlds... and a father finds himself... face to face with himself... only smoother... epic shaves... epic picture... and epic fun... your destination for man of steel... walmart. >>> first question, why is anything sarah palin says, considered news? >> luke, i'm not quite sure it's news but it is someth

. >> the bill was sponsored by republican trent frank and approved by an all-male subcommittee panel, last week they approved the bill for a full-house vote. it was at that hearing that trent frank said this. >> before when my friends on the left side of the aisle here tried to make rape and incest the subject, because you know, the -- incidents of rape and -- resulting in pregnancy are very low. >> two days later the bill was amended to include exclusions for rape and incest as long as the cases are reported to law enforcement before an abortion is sought. perhaps comprehending the messaging problem, and the all-male committee on the reproductive rights, the republican party enlisted congresswoman marsha blackburn to take the mike from frank. >> ma'am speaker, is it not customary for somebody on the jurisdiction to manage time on the floor? or is it because the republicans have no women on the house judiciary committee that the gentlewoman has time on the floor? >> the republicans contend it will protect women from doctors like gosnell, who specifically performed late-term abortions.

trent franks says he does not want to be taken out of context for those remarks. the whole todd akin issue of him saying women don't get pregnant from rape that much. to be fair, the context he was making that point was he was trying to explain he does not care if you're pregnant because you have been raped. he does not care if the reason you're pregnant is because of incest. he does not care. he will force you to go through childbirth against your will after 20 weeks no matter what. he will decide for you. >> to say we wait until then to say that there's a rape or incest involved is waiting too long. >> more than anything else going on in the republican party, this is what's going on in the republican party. they disagree on syria, on nsa surveillance. they agree on this stuff. this is what they're working on when the beltway media pretends really they're thinking hard about the fiscal conservative principles behind a potential grand bargain. that's not what they're are working on. they're here. literally today they're in this room that you see in this footage at

he's trent franks of a air.e republican lawmaker sits on the judiciary and armed services committee. congressman, thanks for joining us today. it is good to see you. >> thanks for inviting me. >> what's your position on this? you are against it as it is currently written but are you working on a bipartisan plan to correct some of those flaws that you might see in the bill? >> well, i think, first of all, it is for to point out the conservatives like myself understand that the immigration was part of build thing country and there is a strong support for immigration in a legal and forthright manner. i'm married to a legal immigrant and have been for 30 years. we believe that immigration is a critical part of this country and it is -- building the -- cause of freedom. with that said, right now, the judiciary committee in the house, it is going through this immigration issue step by step and i -- i have to just take a moment to give chairman bob goodland, a tremendous amount of credit because not only does he posses

house later this afternoon around 1:00 we're told, the bill sponsored by republican congressman trent franksf arizona bans most abortions after 20 weeks. the bill claims the fetus can respond to touch at eight weeks and that it can feel pain at 20 weeks. the bill excludes cases of rape or incest if they are reported. and it gez on to exclude cases when the mother's life is at risk. right now, almost a dozen states have laws in effect or pending that ban abortion at 20 weeks or less. joining me now, marcia blackburn of tennessee. she is not the bill's sponsor but will manage the debate on the floor. congresswoman, good to see you. dicharacterize the bill correctly? >> yes. i think you got some of the language, the bill text in. and yes, we will can have it on the floor this afternoon. >> you are leading this debate in place of your colleague, trent franks, who of course spoke to a great deal of outrage after making comments on rape and pregnancy last week. i do want it remind our viewers wh he said. >> the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low. but when you make that exception

i yield to the prime sponsor of this very important legislation , trent franks, the chairman of the committee, and like i said, he author of the bill. mr. franks: i thank the gentleman. mr. speaker, i don't often do this, but i'm going to step away from my prepared remarks just for a moment and express a sincere gratitude to congressman chris smith. mr. speaker, years ago when i came to washington the very first time, it was on a weekend and i couldn't come here and visit the congress but i came to the congressional halls of where their offices were and there were two offices that i visited. one was the late henry hyde, one of the greatest human beings to ever sit in this place. and the other was to chris smith. and i just have to say to you, i know it embarrasses him terribly, but this is my heart. i believe this man to be truly one of the greatest heroes in this congress. all the 30-plus years that he's been here he has given everything he had to protect little children that couldn't vote for it him. nd i'm just convinced that someone's going to look him in the eyes one day when he crosses

remember trent franks from arizona, the author of this bill. trent franks, who at first refused -- this is just last week. we talked about it -- refused to allow an amendment that says, well, a woman's a victim of rape could still have an abortion. trent frank said no, there is no need for that. right? because -- echoing -- oh i am blanking. todd aiken from missouri if a woman has been raped her body knows it was not legitimate sex and it was not a legitmat pregnancy. trent frank said there was very low incidence of women who are raped getting pregnant when the numbers are that some 30,000 victims of rape in the united states get pregnant every year. so trent franks didn't know what the hell he was talking about. one extreme is he is the author of this bill. yesterday, on the committee -- get this. michael burgess. never heard of him before but he is a republican congressman from texas. he said there is another reason to be against abortion. we should be against abortion because mail fetuses masturbate. little male fe. uses inside the womb mast

she's leading this instead of trent franks hog had his own unfortunate moment before the committee lasteek. so they've tried to dress it up and add exceptions to it. but ultimately, they know that this isn't going through the senate. they know that the president isn't going to be assigning this into law. and the court has shown no appetite to revisit this anyway. so you know, clear will i had party under eric cantor tried to take a more practical approach to bread and butter issues. he got an earful from his caucus. now we're back to abortion legislation. >> professor the other debate on the house floor right now is over the farm bill. the president has threatened to veto the house version because of $20 billion in cuts to food stamps. bobby jindal suggests progressives have no morals in that op-ed. what kind of morality is it, sir, that takes food from the neediest? >> i don't under. our good friend ezra klein shall we say ezra pounded this particular party by in his column today by saying as you've said earlier instead of revolting against the very stupidity and crassness that he lame

. >>> another controversial rape comment, arizona republican trent franks insists he was taken out ofontext while discussing his proposal to ban abortions after 20 weeks. here's the comment that landed him in hot water after asked about possible exceptions in cases of incest for rape. >> before when my friends on the left side of the aisle here tried to make rape and incest the subject because the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low. >> congressman franks insists he meant to say the number of abortions resulting from rape after the start of the sixth month of gestation would be low. he's now blaming democrats for distorting his words. >>> is this a case of police misconduct in texas? >> you're under arrest. >> for what? >> put your hands on the truck. you're under arrest. >> you just assaulted me. >> get ready to get tased. >> for what? >> oh [ bleep ]. >> the video captured from the officer's own body cam. on itty henshaw said what happened to him was unfair but what you don't see is what happened before the stop. police say he drove away from an accident scene, eva

the latest culprit is congressman trent franks of texas. isn't it time for them to learn this when it comes to talking about rape, just don't? and chris christie is the latest celebrity to slow the new slow jam. the news with jimmy fallon. >> what we don't need is another unelected politician just sitting around the congress, whether it's in the senate or the house of representatives. >> take it from my man, the love guv. when he sits around the house of representatives, he really sits around the house of representatives. >> if i didn't know better, i would think christie was thinking about running for president, and fallon is a good place to start. this is "hardball," the place for politics. smoothes, lifts, defies? red jars are all the same right? wrong! you need three uses of a $15 cream to equal the moisturizing power of one use of regenerist microsculpting cream. seems not all red jars are created equal. olay regenerist. >>> well, on so many issues its president obama's points that spent so much money on tv, but according to cantor med

wade is supported by 70% of americans. >> governor, it bears mentioning that trent franks, as maligned as he was in certain corners of the media and the world and the nation, is fund-raising off of this. he has a fund-raising e-mail that says planned parenthood and the taxpayer funded abortion lobby is attacking me for one reason -- i'm 100% unapologetically pro life and i won't back down. >> they can raise money, but we saw in the last election that money doesn't always make a difference. the republicans say that we've got to refine our message. they don't. they have to refine their values. the problem for that is that the red meat for the base may control republican primaries but it doesn't control general elections. let's take charlie dent, for example. charlie dent is a good guy. he's a good congressman. he's a moderate. he's one of the last of the breed. well, we'll make the argument -- i guess we'll make the argument -- some people might make sure we make this argument -- in 2014 charlie dent is a good guy but he's voting for john boehner for speaker and john boehner is the one t

the bill introduced by arizona republican trent franks is expected to pass the republican-led house butin the democrat-led senate. the last week's committee vote may have passed quietly, if not for this comment made by congressman franks. >> before, when my friends on the left side of the aisle here tried to make rape and incest the subject because you know, the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low. >> instantly democrats jumped on those remarks and certainly pointed out the similarity to comments made last year by fellow republicans todd akin and richard murdoch. joining me now, salon's erin malone who has an article contradicting lawmakers comments on rape and pregnancy. you're a fortune teller or a very wise woman following the trail that republicans have led before. >> tamryn, apparently republicans have decided to relaunch the republican party right from a woman's uterus, they cannot quit. at this point they know for sure this bill will never become law. are trying to use this to try to stigmatize women who have had abortions. whether women have had rape or incest

the latest culprit is congressman trent franks of texas. isn't it time for them to learn this when it comes to talking about rape, just don't? and chris christie is the latest celebrity to slow the new slow jam. the news with jimmy fallon. >> what we don't need is another unelected politician just sitting around the congress, whether it's in the senate or the house of representatives. >> take it from my man, the love guv. when he sits around the house of representatives, he really sits around the house of representatives. >> if i didn't know better, i would think christie was thinking about running for president, and fallon is a good place to start. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] moving object detection. ♪ blind spot warning. ♪ lane departure warning. safety, down to an art. the nissan altima with safety shield technologies. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enou

congressman trent franks filled the void with remarks that, in terms of scientific knowledge, barelye above the level of cave paintings. >> you know, the incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low but when you make that exception, there's usually a requirement to report the rape within 48 hours. and in this case, that's impossible because this is in the sixth month of gestation. >> john: joining me to discuss this and other verbal atrocities of the day are my brilliant panel of nonexperts. dean obeidallah, creator of thedeanreport.com. elaineelayne boosler founder of the animal rescue group tailsofjoy.net and you're tv's frank. frank conniff. icon of mystery theatre 3,000. let me start with you. why don't republicans get it about the abortion issue? politically, it is a loser for them. it is a big fundraiser. are they clueless to winning elections on this issue? >> what's fascinating and i think the people doesn't know this is when they're getting this information from. hasn't anyone thought to ask when they say i read a doctor said that you can't get pregnant during rape.

. >> well, tell you what representative trent franks says he really meant to say. they're coming.h. british. later. sorry. ok...four words... scarecrow in the wind... a baboon... monkey? hot stew saturday!? ronny: hey jimmy, how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? jimmy: happier than paul revere with a cell phone. ronny: why not? anncr: get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. there's a new way to fight litter box odor. introducing tidy cats with glade tough odor solutions. two trusted names, one amazing product. >>> oh, welcome back. back tracking from another politician over comments about rape and pregnancy. now, republican representative trent franks of arizona is telling his staff to fasten their seat belts. athena jones has more for you. >> reporter: new controversy this morning after republican congressman trent franks said this about rape. >> the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low. >> reporter: his remarks came during a discussion in congress about a proposal to ban abortions after 20 week

republican congressman trent franks is catching flak by saying incidences of pregnancies from rape isow. what's going on with this? didn't they learn their lesson? how can they court women. >> that's a question others are asking. some of the criticism came from saying they should avoid that combination of words. it all has to do with legislation that would make abortion illegal after 20 weeks based on the questionable medical evidence that that's when the fetus starts feeling pain. even if it would pass congress, it won't pass the entire congress, it won't get past the supreme court. >>> the nsa leaks, edward snowden is saying he vows to fight extradition. many on capitol hill are promising to bring him to justice. >> getting back to the polls, it's really difficult to tell just how many americans do support it and under what conditions. we've had various polls that have come up with somewhat different results and it shows the follibility of polls. it shows depending on how the question is asked you can have an entirely different result. as for his going to hong kong to try to avoid e

there is legislation in congress right now, championed by trent franks from arizona. . eat pro-life leader. we have an opportunity now to ban abortions nationwide at 20 weeks. we are talking about a late-term abortion bill. people need to look at what is going on in regard to rosie wade until now. what has happened in the abortion industry? when you think of the graphic descriptions of what went on in that facility, believe me, americans are with us. americans are becoming more and more pro-life, more pro-life women, more pro-life young people, that wonderful thing, the ultrasound, a woman is pregnant now, and you see a picture of the baby before it is born. i saw my grandchildren. i saw pictures of my grandson isaac before he was born. it is incredible. science is on our side. we are moving in the right direction. not only do we want this bill passed, but we want hearings for it we want people -- hearings. we want people in the trial to talk about their experience. we want former clinic workers, people that could not take it anymore, to come and tell what they saw. like

absent from the floor of the house during the bill's debate was its sponsor, arizona congressman trent franksfranks sparked controversy last week when he said that rape results in few pregnancies. as a result, gop leadership made sure female representatives were front and center during the debate. >> the republican man who brought this bill to the floor despite the parade of our women colleagues on the house floor today do not represent the voices of women in america. >> reporter: republicans hope the vote lays the groundwork for a challenge to roe vs. wade the law that legalized abortion 40 years ago. susan mcginnis, cbs news, washington. >> six democrats voted to support the bill while six republicans voted against it. >>> the head of the national security agency says dozens of plots were thwarted with the help of the u.s. government's controversial surveillance programs. army general keith alexander testified yesterday at a house intelligence committee hearing saying one of the prevented plots was directed at the new york stock exchange. >> i would much rather be here today debating this p

had been trying to reach out to women lately, and second because the bill's author, arizona's trent franks, may have offended some of them when he argued that women who get raped are less likely to get pregnant. >> the bill is passed. >> reporter: the bill house republicans passed last night would ban abortions after 20 weeks. >> hr-1797 is based on undisputed scientific evidence which tells us that unborn children at 20 weeks and older can feel pain. >> reporter: the bill's author, arizona's trent franks, stayed out of sight, sidelined after he made this statement last week. >> the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low. >> reporter: it was exactly the kind of comment republicans had been hoping to avoid after missouri senate candidate todd akin turned off voters with a similar assertion last year. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> reporter: on wednesday republican leaders appointed a woman to lead the debate instead of franks. >> we do not support more gosnell-like abortions. >> reporter: she and her colleagues

trent franks and todd akin saying these outrageous things but it's not just a product of that, it's aroduct of this attitude that, in fact, we can solve these problems in the old way. this is the most extraordinary thing about women of both parties now attaining a really significant number of seats in the senate, not enough, but that debate was run -- was just the beginning opening shot and i think women are not going to put up with this anymore. carl -- i mean carl levin doesn't have the same agenda that a richard murdoch or a todd akin has. >> how do you know? >> i know him. he's not a -- >> let me ask you this -- >> he's not a hate monger. >> who does more caddamage in ts of women's lives? >> this was a big mistake when you are in charge like chuck hagel or carl levin in running an organization where there are tens of thousands of sexual assaults every year you have to hold people accountable. this is like going to the boss of the corporation that sinned and asking him to fix it. this is a mistake. >> i think this is very important. you know, republicans make stupid comments. you t

you know the gop has gone to extremes to distance themselves from congressman trent franks' rape comment congressman franks' comment, senator marco rubio said, quote, i don't know who that is, talking about congressman franks. the problem is here is a picture of the two of them at a dinner together. that's not enough. they've also shared a stage as the only keynote speakers at an event in may of 2010. and more recently, senator rubio signed a letter that franks wrote to president obama. so-so much for him not knowing him. but they're trying to get away from an extreme statement. but at the same time, you have people like your governor saying they'll sign extreme legislation. >> well, i think one of the reasons, reverend, that they shut us down is because they were trying to get away from the extreme statements that the author of the bill made, senator mary lazic. one of her comments was that having an abortion was the thing you had to do to be a woman. it was the hip thing to do in the '60s. how ridiculous. >> wait a minute. she said this? the sponsor of the bill actually said this? >> t

look at what trent franks was able to do recently with eric cantor and john boehner's help. pushing through the abortion ban. clearly a violation of roe v. wade. you know, in some say what is interesting is that they are becoming more and more and more aggressive. i believe because they are so afraid of the tea party wing of the republican party. i said earlier that to a friend of mine, i said, we need to stop calling it pro life. they now have become to be pro why. they are trying to require teachers to actually give false information to kids about reproductive health in north carolina. in ohio they are trying to shift tax money to crisis centers that time and again have shown to give false information about their current health conditions. >> some measures require doctors to give misinformation to their patients. thank you terry o'neal for joining me. thank you senator van deputte. we are with you tomorrow. >> thank you. we will need every voice. >> thanks you. senator, you're a hero. >> next, same-sex marriage watching history and ideology clyde. stay with us. this is dis

the bill's sponsor, republican congressmember trent franks, claimed the rate of pregnancies resulting from rape is very low. friends onwhen my the left side of the i'll try to make rape and incest the subject -- the incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low. >> his comments are widely being compared to those of former republican senator tod achan who lost his re-election bid last year when he said women could suppress pregnancy in cases of legitimate rape. the senate has passed a measure that would expand oversight of sexual assault in the armed forces. the head of the committee's proposal to remove the handling of sexual assault cases from the military's chain of command and instead place them in the hands of military prosecutors. but michigan democrat carl levin of place the measure with one preserving military leader'' final say. the issue has erupted following a recent report showed 26,000 sex crimes and military ranks last year and the rest of several officials involved in policing sexual harassment. michael moran has announced his resignation as director of the cia.

trent franks, not todd akin. wanted to hope they found this moment, this youtube moment, that they were going to be able to turn him into todd akin. it strikes me as though the republican party has forgotten how to talk about abortion. >> any time you hear the words rape and pregnancy and abortion on the house floor, democrats are going to pounce on it. >> committee. >> i'm sorry, committee room. out of the mouth of any lawmaker, i think it's going to become a topic. don't know getting down into the details of it benefits anyone. so i think yeah, i think the republican party hasn't learned to talk about it. i think probably talking about it is specifics of rape and incest and abortion are never helpful to them. >> what's interesting here is the public's views on abortion, you know, really moves, david, very little, you know, there's always some shift every now and then, three points here, one way or another, as far as if you classify the country as more pro choice or more pro-life. really depends how you define t

how about arizona republican congressman trent frank.his is his response to democrats who wanted a raise in insect exception to his 20-week abortion ban. >> before, when my friends on the left side of the aisle here tried to make rape and incest the subject, you know, the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low. >> no surprise there, that comment drew immediate outrage. franks tried to explain what he meant, basically saying what is rare are pregnancies for rape that are carried past the 20th week. >> let's talk about texas congressman rob paul. he's 90 years old. republican, outspoken supporter of the defense of marriage act. so it came as a huge surprise when he showed up at a lbgt reception on capitol hill. had he changed the stand on doma? was he opening ready to support gay rights? no, seems he walked into the wrong reception in the wrong room. but it took a considerable amount of time and probably a few crab puffs before he realized he made a mistake. >> all right. well, let me put a bow on the whole thing i'm talking