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donald trump syndrome. for the country to move forward, we must come forward and move forward rather than backwards. how do you think donald trump would respond to my theory? guest: you know. he is not about coming together. that does not work for him. he had opportunities. because he is so ideologically flexible, there was hope that he could read someone to work across lines. he was a democrat and a republican. he is from new york. he is not a super hard-core conservative. you could not operate in new york that way. therefore, he could be the guy who brought a party together. that is not what he chose to do. he chose to go right because that was the people who stood with him. his view is come i'm going to stick with the people who stuck with me. he did not believe in working with democrats. the trick is, he is never going to be that kind of politician. maybe not any politician can do that in today's era. he talked about times where he has seen divisiveness where people did not like him. he is not out there

trump's planning for january 6. here is what bannon said on january 5. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. i will tell you this. it will not happen like you think it will happen. all i can say is strapped in. you have made this happen. >> another close associate of donald trump apparently knew of mr. trump's intentions as well. roger stone is a political operative for dirty tricks. in november 2019, he was convicted of lying to congress and sentenced to more than three years in prison. he is a longtime advisor to president trump and was in communication with president trump throughout 2020. mr. trump pardoned roger stone on december 23 of 2020. recently, the select committee of mr. stone before and after the election from filmmaker christopher gill branson. >> reppo for the lesson, here is roger stone, talking about what president trump would do after the election. >> let's just hope we are celebrating. i suspect it will still be up in the air. when that happens, the key thing to do is to claim victory. po

donald trump knew he lost. despite this knowledge, donald trump went to court to contest the 2020 election and lost in court. the electoral college met and declared joe biden the winner, yet, donald trump continued to pull out all of the stops in his attempt to stay in power. what donald trump proceeded to do after the 2020 election is something no president has done before in our country. in a staggering betrayal of his oath, donald trump attempted a plan that led to an attack on a pillar of our democracy. it is still hard to believe. the facts and testimonies are clear, consistent, and undisputed. how do we know this? how have we been able to put -- present such a clear picture of what took place? because of the testimony we have heard and that we have had presented to you through these proceedings. because of the documentary evidence we have gathered. and also, made available directly to you, the american people. when you look back at what has come out through this committees work, the most striking fact is

donald trump syndrome. for the country to move forward, we must come forward and move forward rather than backwards. how do you think donald trump would respond to my theory? guest: you know. he is not about coming together. that does not work for him. he had opportunities. because he is so ideologically flexible, there was hope that he could read someone to work across lines. he was a democrat and a republican. he is from new york. he is not a super hard-core conservative. you could not operate in new york that way. therefore, he could be the guy who brought a party together. that is not what he chose to do. he chose to go right because that was the people who stood with him. his view is come i'm going to stick with the people who stuck with me. he did not believe in working with democrats. the trick is, he is never going to be that kind of politician. maybe not any politician can do that in today's era. he talked about times where he has seen divisiveness where people did not like him. he is not out there

president trump. here is what the vice president counsel greg jacobs told us about his preparations with the vice president chief of staff mark short. >> mark indicated to me that there was a possibility that there would be a declaration of victory. within the white house that someone pushed for. this was prior to the election results being known. the key was trying to figure out a way of avoiding the vice president being thrust into a position where he might not have sufficient information to do so. >> following this conversation, mr. jacob drafted a memo to mr. short that the select committee got from the national archives. this memo was sent on november 3, election day. it advised "it is essential the vice president not be perceived by the public as having decided questions concerning disputes of electoral votes prior to the full development of all relevant facts." a few days before the election mr. trump consultant with one of his outside advisors inside activist tom fitton about the strategy for

there's a great story in taking back trump's america, where i'm in trump trump tower in manhattan, inthe war room. it's about i did get called down to the office by dave bassie. love dave. and he was the chief operating officer of the champ campaign. i come in n and steve bannon is sitting here, steve of course is the strategist that road to the rescue in august and it's like, hethey had just read another screwup with our tax bill in the press that related to our mischaracterization of this thing called carried interest. dave goes what happened here? and mnuchin stuck his head and mouth and got out. at one point i say something like god help us if mnuchin is treasury secretary and bassie says god help us and bannon says that will never happen. e the point of the story is that was the transaction. mnuchin wanted to be treasury secretary. he came in other liberal democrats and the neville chamberlain a hard time and when he was inthere , he dipped his role with that if they have those anymore. all his contacts, all the deals made back channeling, the chinese and mexicans, on nafta, they

they're telling me trump will not listen. i realize i can talk to trump. i spend about 15 minutes going through these. and the then at the end, he said, well, did you write them down. and i went through them again thinking, he's going to do something. you know what he did? absolutely zero. it was so sickening to see he was not doing these things and he'd lost the avenue of communication with the experts. i asked them at one point, i said, have you ever sat down with dr. fauci? he's the expert. and trump says, oh, no, this is a busy white house. busy white house. didn't have time to sit down -- i mean, it's like the president of the united states not talking to his chairman of the joint chiefs or the commander. i mean, it's almost -- i mean, it really should be unbelievable. the problem is it's exactly what happened out of trump's mouth. >> yeah. all too believable. bob woodward, stick around. we've got a lot more to talk about. coming up even more tapes to back up why bob says donald trump poses a serious threat to democracy. what trump told him about our

there's a great story in taking back trump's america, where i'm in trump trump tower in manhattan, in the war room. it's about september. and i get called down to the office. bye by dave bossie. love dave. and he was the chief operating officer of the campaign. and i come in and steve bannon sitting there. steve, of course, is the strategist who kind of road that a rescue in august and it's like it's like there was just yet another screw up with our with our tax bill and the press and it related to our mischaracterization of this thing called carried carried interest rate. it's like dave goes what the hell happened? here i go. hey, manoogian stuck his head, you know, his mouth and yeah, your god. and so, so one point i say something like, god help us if manoogian is treasury secretary and bossie says, yeah, god help us. and bannon says, yeah, that'll never happen. and the point of the story is that that was the transaction. maybe she wanted to be treasury secretary. he came in and the liberal democrat in the neville chamberlain of our time and when he was in there, david, he built his

trump's intentions as well. roger stone is a political operative with a reputation for dirty tricks. in november 2019, he was convicted of lying to congress and other crimes and sentenced to more than three years in prison. he's also a longtime adviser to president trump and was in communication with president trump throughout 2020. mr. trump pardoned roger stone on december 23, 2020. right before the election, here's roger stone talking about what president trump would do after the election. >> let's just hope we're celebrating. i suspect it'll be -- i really douspect it will still be up in the air. when that happens, the key thing to do is to claim victory. possession is 9/10 of the law. no, we won. sorry. over. we won. you're wrong. [beep] you. >> the select committee called mr. stone as a witness, but he invoked his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. >> you believe the violence on january 6 was justified? >> on the advice of counsel, i respectfully decline to answer your question on the basis

donald trump just sort of talked .ot surprisingly, a lot of what he said was complaints about 2020 along with insoles up just about every single person we asked about -- insults about every single person we asked about. host: guest: it is an interesting question. donald trump was not very quotable in the interview that he is reprising grievances that he said many times. he is a believer in marketing and the power of repetition. he seemed to believe that the more he said something, even if it is untrue, the more effective that is for him. as a author, i said it is valuable for us to see the subject in action and taking insight in the way. i think the main take away is that, he is trying to sell us and also the american people on a series of lies by repeating them over and over again. host: when you did the interview, did he know the title of the book? guest: now, we did not decide it. we decided it a few months before we turned it in. i think he knew we were authors. i think he understood we were independent journalist.

politics. >> the place that voted for trump-- >> full line up of trump cheerleaders. >> president trumpgs-- >> oh now let's talk about immigration, yesterday we told >> --and then he would tweet them. >> here's the, i mean the president just tweeted, can we take a look at this tweet that he just put out? >> donald trump will watch that, say we need to get our borders under control, and then fox news will shift coverage to talking about how the president says there's a crisis on the border and we need to get things under control. >> was difficult at times to tell, was donald trump setting the country's agenda or was fox news setting the country's agenda? >> president trump did exactly the right thing. >> donald trump's been doing a great job-- >> make america great again for all americans. >> it's something you've never seen in american history. a news network is practically an arm of the white house. >> whatever his instinct is, that's right. >> a great leader. >> and he left it all on the field. >> let's talk about fox news, is fox news fair and balanced? >> james murdoch is watching t

did trump lose?se if you talks to former president donald trump about this, he doesn't complain about how his campaign was run. he says that he won and it was stolen. you were very critical of how hisow re-election campaign was n and talk and write about it in terms of him losing. and you're one of the few people, what i would say is you're one of the few trump loyalists who talk about trump the way that you do that acknowledge, seem to act acknowledge that his re-election campaign was legitimately a failure in that it did not win. >> guest: the fine point here, and i understand that this remains a disputedded election at least in the public's mind. if you look at the public polling on this, a half or well more than half of the country believe that that election was somehow not right, okay? now, what i do say here, the fine point here is that the mistakes, the five strategic failures -- i' wasn't just one of the worst campaigns in presidential history run, it was made close enough to steal, okay? tha

the trump appeal is asking the supreme court to allow a special master and the trump lawyers to review classified documents in the case. as with all trump filings in this case, the trump lawyers do not ever admit that the classified documents are classified documents, and they never suggest any reason why the documents marked classified might not be classified. and the trump lawyers never suggest why any documents marked classified, even if no longer classified, could possibly legally remain and in donald trump's possession. the appeals court ruling in favor of the government prosecutors -- in this case, said plaintiff trump does not have a possessory interest in the documents at issue. documents he neither owns nor has a personal interest in. the appeals court also says it doesn't matter whether the classified documents had ever been declassified. the appeals court said the declassification argument is a red herring, because declassifying an official document would not change its content or render it personal. so even if we assumed that plaintiff trump did declassify some or all of th

it's ivanka trump. the ties between the trumps and the murdochs are deep. jared, when he bought a weekly newspaper in new york, the new york observer, he'd reached out to murdoch for advice in the newspaper business to become basically, his protege, and a relationship developed between rupert, wendi, and jared and ivanka. they even vacationed together, went to the caribbean on a yacht, naturally. early 2015, so ivanka proposes a lunch. and at this lunch, it's ivanka, jared, donald trump, and rupert murdoch. there really couldn't be a more glaring contrast at this intimate lunch. trump, this larger than life glutton, a cheeseburger and fries kind of guy. at this stage, rupert's a health nut. grilled chicken and vegetables and a little soup. the only thing these two men have in common is diet coke. rupert has no idea what this lunch is about, and then trump breaks the news; i'm going to run for president. the subtext being; he's going to want rupert's support. without looking up from his soup, rupert says; you better be prepared to get wrapped up badly. which

they're sympathetic to trump and they like trump's policies. they're tired of the chaos. there's a process in the republican party of deciding whether they want to move on from donald trump or whether they want to go with donald trump again and bring him back or move on from donald trump and have someone who is going to carry on donald trump's policies without the political baggage.january 6th committee is not a factor in those decisions. it's who can win the election and whether there's somebody else that can pick up that mantel. that is a conversation for another day. we are one month away from an election where congress is being decided. we're going to find out whether or not there's any check on the reckless spending and all of the other radical policies that are happening. we just found out today that grocery prices went up 18%, gas line prices have gone up 50%. natural gal prices are up. cars are up, furniture is up. the worst inflation in four decades, the worst crime wave since the 90s, the worst border crisis in american history. most americans say i don't care a

donald trump knew he lost. despite this knowledge, donald trump went to court to contest the 2020 election, and he lost in court. the electoral college met and declared joe biden the winner and donald trump continued to pull out all the stops in his attempt to stay in power. donald trump proceeded to do after the 2020 election is something no president has done before in our country. in a staggering betrayal of his oath, donald trump attempted a plan that led to an attack on a pillar of our democracy. it's still hard to believe. but the facts and testimony are clear, consistent, and undisputed. how do we know this? how have we've been able to present such a clear picture of what took place? because of the testimony we've heard and that we've presented to you through these proceedings. because of the documentary evidence we've gathered, and also made available directly to you, the american people,. when you look back at what has come out through this committee's work, the most striking fact is that all this evid

trump acknowledged he lost the 2020 election. the former white house aide, cassidy hutchinson, describing his angry reaction when the supreme court declined the legal challenge to the election results. >> the president said something to the effect of i don't want people to know -- figure it out, we need to figure it out. i don't want people to know we lost. >> the committee showed new video featuring house speaker nancy pelosi, former vice president mike pence, and other lawmakers in leadership during the attack. >> they are just breaking windows, doing all kinds of -- they said somebody was shot. it is horrendous. all at the instigation of the president of the united states. >> their best information is they believe the house and the senate will be able to -- in roughly an hour. >> still striking to see it again. lawmakers said there are lingering questions about what the secret service feel about the violence and when. joining me to discuss this and more, a national political reporter for the new york times and host of the podc

trump contended to lead the mob to the capitol. [video clip] >> completely honest, we were all in the state of shock because, one, i think the feasibility of actually doing it, and we all knew what that meant, that this was no longer a rally, that this was going to move to something else physically walking to the capitol. i don't know if you want to use the word insurrection. whatever, we knew that this would move from a normal democratic public event into something else. why were we alarmed? because we didn't want to believe the president would send tens of thousands of people to the capitol. that was enough to be alarmed. [end of video clip] rep. auilar: president trump was still considering traveling to the capitol. he knew that a violent riot is underway at the capitol. he was aware of the ongoing lawlessness that his motorcade was held on west executive avenue outside the white house because he still wanted to join the crowd. here's kayleigh mcenany, the white house press secretary describing the exchange she had with the pres

former president donald trump trumps mar-a-lago home in florida has been served by the fbi. donald trump's the one in which his handling o customer documents and taking doctors to mar-a-lago with him when he left office pees the government recover more than 32 )-right-parenthesis doctors fro trump's home in florida. the redacted search warrant identified three final crimes a justice the center position of its investigation:in this section of jessica krug handlin of government records, and violations of the espionage act. >> good afternoon the comm committee's for your phone -- laser focused as an investigation. after the hearing this summer they continued digging, even securing an interview with jenn times, a conservative activist and wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, where according to committee chair bennie thompson, she doubled down under false belief that th election was stolen. text message between thomas and mark meadows showed she pushed the former chief of staff to fight to overturn the results o the election before january 6th. >> the committee will hol

trump.cannot be on the ballot again till 2024. there is an election on 26 days. the legacy of january 6th lives in races all around this country. some candidates on the republican ticket who were here, here on january 6th at the capitol in the crowd. some who helped donald trump try to overturn the elections including the man running for the governor of your home state, pennsylvania. others who are running, saying that the legislature should be able to come together if we don't like the way the people voted we should be able to overturn results. it's interesting as the committee makes the argument against trump 204, the roots of this are getting deeper and deeper into american politics and into the republican bloodstream and make an argue about 2024. 27, 28, 29 days we will look at the results and maybe seeing the cancer has spread pretty significantly. >> i think that's a big fear and abby, we have seen conservatives, adam kinzinger and liz cheney of wyoming actually going and endorsing dem

, donald trump's first national security adviser, met with trump and talked about trump giving an order to seize voting machines. and that's not where flynn's unhinged ideas ended. >> did you know that a governor can declare war? governor can declare war, okay? and we're going to probably -- we're going to probably see that. >> it's a deranged virus. and it's going viral from the deep corners of the dark web onto main stream sites such as twitter, where experts tell cnn they've seen a surge of posts about civil war in recent weeks. after the mar-a-lago search, one post in a trump online forum stated, i'm just going to say it. attorney general merrick garland needs to be assassinated, simple as that. another said, kill all feds. and all of this is probably why in a recent poll 64% of you said you expect to see increase in political violence in the u.s. over the next few years. you're right to have those fears. at least i hope they're just fears and not desires. i mean, some polling suggests americans are more willing than ever before to support violence as a legitimate way to further one

clark conspired with donald trump. president trump wanted to appoint jeff clark as acting. as you can see it -- as you can see in this call log, he did so. and here is mr. clark testifying before our committee. >> mr. car, when did you first talk directly with president trump? >> the fifth. >> did you discuss with president trump allegations of fraud? >> fifth. >> other witnesses have gone to a lengths to avoid testifying. has been tried and convicted for contempt of congress. he is scheduled to be sentenced for this crime letter this month. criminal proceedings regarding peter navarro continue. mark meadows, donald trump's former chief of staff, has refused to testify based upon executive privilege. the committees litigation with him continues. mr. chairman, the department of justice may well honor the fact that these and other witnesses are currently, but our duty today is to our country and our children and our constitution. we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion. and every american is entitled to those answers so we can act now

and cohn tells trump, fight like hell and trump learns a couple of things. one is that you can use the court system interchangeably with public relations. you can shout as loud as possible and try to keep whoever is challenging you at bay for a while. that way, you can threaten and intimidate and menace, even if you settle, you won't say you're settling. and most specifically, what he learned is that the role of a lawyer could be turned into something almost like a mafia don, like just something completely different than than what lawyers are supposed to do. a longtime trump friend has said to me on several occasions. trump likes lawyers who are willing to do anything. well, did he turned himself into a mafia don? i mean, he gave six apartments in trump tower to the mistress of a big mobster, and he flew john gotti's top lieutenant on his helicopter to atlantic city and then later claimed he didn't know the guy. so and he never keeps records like a mob boss, right? no email, no, no. no reference, no notes, no record. i mean, look, i think that it's there's a

trump appointed. from looking at the 100 or classified documents taken from his beach club, but they are attempting to get the review of classified documents back before the court-appointed special master which could potentially throw some fan into the gears of the investigation. despite reporting that trump's legal team is looking to soften its tone in this case, the filing today by trump's lawyers are filled with more angry screams against the department of justice. they accuse the department of, quote, feigned concern about purported classified records in order to pin some offense on trump. it is the latest in a series of aggressive and bellicose moves by trump which he's employed for a very long time to move away from scandal of legal quandaries. and it's more evidence of the mind-set of which he approaches the powers of the presidency and the keeping of the nation's secrets. in a media website, trump told his follower, i want my documents back. that's what he said, i want my documents back becaus

trump was keeping in florida. cash patel was quoted in the fbi affidavit that was used to obtain the search warrant of trump's documents. saying it made that trump had declassified documents. he kept at his residence in florida. what did you say about that when he was asked about it in the grand jury in washington last week? cash patel might have taken the fifth amendment and refused to answer any questions undergrowth to that grand jury, or kash patel may have decided it was time to save himself and stop lying for donald trump. donald trump's lawyers have no idea what he told the grand jury. donald trump and his lawyers have no idea what cash patel told that granary. nothing prevents cash patel from telling them what he told the grand jury. but donald trump's problem is he is a pathological liar who has attracted into his employ other pathetic pathological liars, like kash patel. what so, when one of his pathological liars is now telling him what he said to a grand jury, how can donald trump believe that? how can

trump when the race.were out spent almost two to one of the clinton campaign but what hillary did was spend most of the money on bloated staff and misspent money on how time her advertising and we made the same mistake in 2020. there's a story how monkeys with flamethrowers would bring cash almost as fast as jared did because we have like a super bowl ad. he gave to $50000 at one time and wrote one check for $250,000. the check was used for two seconds of a super bowl ad ten months before the election. when we got four, six weeks out to election day, we were out of money. we had to cancel ads even though we raised more than biden. that alone is incompetent. the other thing kushner did and like do some things and six figures, huge overhead. it wasn't managed well and messaging was poor. a great story about him. i blame him for bringing down zuckerberg and facebook and jack dorsey and twitter on trump in 2020. the way it goes is he gets on 60 minutes after the 2016 campaign tries to take credit for the win.

but, the temptation for trump, as someone who wrote a trump book and interviewed a lot of trump people, is his sort of performative temptation is going to be, nobody can defend me like me. so, there needs to be some temptation. >> would you call all of the networks? >> going down to mar-a-lago, he indicated, he wants to testify. he wanted to talk to mueller to. rudy giuliani, on tv l. a. said -- my god. this is not what he wants. they have all led him. >> there is a history. he talks a big game. he was subpoenaed in the new york case, by the attorney general, and from the subpoena, to him complying, was eight months. then, he pled the fifth. it is a bombshell that 30 people, around trump, we learn for the first time, we did know the full number, pled the fifth amendment. if, and that casey, ultimately complies, he can plead the fifth, but then you have the nation seeing him, being asked, did you plan it as a coup? oh, i plead the fifth, because of my criminal exposure. did you intend to cause violence on the sixth? i plead the fifth. did you intend to have mike pence violently attacked

president trump staff and closest advisers in the white house. members of president trump's family. his own white house counsel. i served in congress along time. i can tell you it's tough for any congressional investigation to obtain evidence like we received, least of all such a detailed view into a president's inner circle. i want to be clear. not all of these witnesses were to talk to us. some of them put up quite a fight, but the vast majority cooperated. what we've shown you over the last four months on the evidence, evidence that has come overwhelmingly from republican witnesses. so i say to you again as i did in june, this investigation is not about politics. it's not about party. it's about the facts, plain and simple. and it's about making sure our government functions under the rule of law as our constitution demands. today, as in previous proceedings, my colleagues and i will present new evidence that includes new testament -- testimony from additional republicans who served in the trump administration. never before seen footage of congressional leaders on january 6 worki

trump won that race.e would have outspent almost through toko one in the hillary campaign but what hillary did was spend most of that money on a bloated staff and must spend the money on how she timed her advertising. and we made the same mistake in 2020. the monkeys with flamethrowers would throw cash almost as much as jared did because we have like a super bowl ad. if there were $250,000 at one point for $250,000. it was used for two seconds of ten months before the election. when we got to four, six weeks out from election day, we had to cancel ads even though we knew we raised more than joe biden. that alone is incompetence and the other thing kushner did his reply twentysomethings like six figures we had a huge overhead so it just wasn't managed well. that itself was a great story to take you back because i blame them for bringing down the wrath of zuckerberg and facebook and jack dorsey and twitter on trump in 2020. the way that the story goes is getss on 13 minutes after the 2016 campaign and tries

also -- also, if trump -- if trump is losing -- by ten, 11:00 at night, it's going to be even crazier -- >> they're gonna say that they stole it. agree. >> i'm directing the attorney general, to shut down all ballot places off, and all 50 -- it's going to be -- >> it's not going out easy. if biden's winning, trump is going to do some crazy -- . >> crazy as -- -- -- >> longtime trump ally, roger stone, not only knew about trump's intentions, but he was actively giving him his advice on how to stay in the white house. >> in this post, you can see how roger stone talked about his conversations with president trump. he wrote, i also told the president exactly how he can appoint a special counsel with full subpoena power to ensure those who are attempting to steal the 2020 election to voter fraud are charged and convicted. and to ensure donald trump continues as our president. in addition to this connection to president trump, roger stone maintained extensive direct connections to groups responsible for violently attacking the capitol. the oath keepers and the proud boys. >> members of the

all seven battleground states that trump lost to biden, six of them states where trump and his alliesied to create slates of fraudulent election electors to throw out a legitimate votes cast in 2020. i want to introduce you to claire what all though, she's the u.s. -- elections of wisconsin. among the dozens and dozens and dozens of threatening messages that she received, a few of them stick out. >> a lot of the emails called me a -- i deserve to go before a firing squad, all because i did my job and make sure that all of the city of mueller milwaukee's ballots were counted. >> she now reasonably thinks that she is a target for violence. >> it's frightening because there are crazy people out there. while it might just be them blowing off steam, it is clear that they believe it. i think only someone who truly believed it would act on it. >> some of these unhinged people have regrettably acted on it. after the fbi's seized classified documents, that trump had improperly taken to mar-a-lago. an armed man tried to storm the fbi office in cincinnati, ohio, in august. he has reportedly post

the trump opened in late 2016. the trump international hotel. it was the local property. it was a beautiful hotel. i will say it. i, you know, didn't think i would say this, but it's in the old post office building. it's halfway between the white and the capitol on pennsylvania avenue. there's glorious like four or five star hotel, which for about a year period was the capital of republican washington. it was american cafe. it was cheers for the trump world, except instead of like norman sam sort of giving each other -- about like norms tab, they would be like talking about, i don't know, some lobby deal for a saudi or like, you know, a $20,000 bar tab for someone who wanted a pardon. i mean, it was like, oh my god, gambling is going on here. do you believe it? i'm shocked. shocked. but it was like that. it was an incredible, bizarre be acr. it was bizarre, too. but you would have, you know, dozens of republican congress men and women, mostly men at all hours at the bar running up tabs, often instagramming their tabs and making sure the white house knew about it. so the p

trump and trump hung around him and hung around his crew. you know, he had he had friends like like a man named bill fugazi, who also was friends with roy cohn. lee iacocca there was this crew, and trump wanted to be like them and found himself emulating this hypermasculinity. steinbrenner was famous for firing his managers, except he wasn't doing it by play. acting when trump trump, who really doesn't like firing people directly when he's doing the apprentice, starts with you're fired and. it was pretty widely seen as an homage to steinbrenner and that that changed that show changed everything for him. i think most people are pretty familiar with that, but they're not familiar. many people with a man named mead esposito, who was he and what did learn from him? mead esposito was the brooklyn democratic party boss. when machine boss politics, everything in new york city and trump's father, fred, was very close to mead and in that helped them hardwire kinds of projects in brooklyn. and mead had enormous clout all the city and when trump first

trump is being trump braggadocio. you know, poland wants a name, a ford after me, and israel wants to name a settlement after me and putin very dryly says, well, maybe they should just name all of his really. after you, donald. right. mocking his pretensions and his nazis statism because putin has his number. putin gets him, frankly, a lot of the foreign leaders did. but putin wasn't sucking up to him. yeah, he was mocking. and that makes you think that this is really one way street. so a lot of people tell you, michael cohen, his lawyer, would tell you it's about money russia was a source of money to him when he needed it. some of his nsc staff would tell you it's just about this affinity for strongmen as not just putin. it's all of them. and we'll never because we don't have a reliable source to ever tell us. right. well, he's not going to tell us. so that's what i meant. one last question before i go to questions, a little bit of journalistic inside baseball. two things. one, what do you make of this criticism of t

the way donald trump does.were all silent, remained silent, as kanye, he said he is going to go death count three on the juice, not only that, he hasn't stopped. this is one day after the interview. he's ramped opposite rhetoric. yesterday, he pops on a podcast, where he rents about shows control of the media, arguing that juice control every industry and use it to explode others while calling disney a, quote, jewish platform, and blaming joe sinus for spreading stories about his ex-wife compression, and her ex boyfriend keep davidson. textbook stops, folks. we the book. there is a reason why the people watching with the dickey churches in charlottesville, very fine people that donald trump once described them, claimed were defending their confederate heritage, there's a reason those man you see there were chanting jews will not replace us. and blood and soil. this is not a fluke. it's not like, oh, wow, weird, antisemitism over there, and antisemitism over there. well, popping up a lot. no. the kind of right-w

trump's intentions as well. roger stone is a political operative with a reputation for dirty tricks. in november 2019 he was convicted of lying to congress and other crimes and sentenced to more than three years in prison. he's also a long time advisor to president trump, and was in communication with president trump throughout 2020. mr. trump pardoned roger stone on december 23rd, 2020. now, recently the select committee got footage of mr. stone before and after the election from danish filmmaker christopher gillbranson pursuant to a subpoena. right before the election here is roger stone talking about what president trump would do after the election. >> let's just hope we are celebrating. i suspect it will be, i really do suspect it will still be up in the air. when that happens, the key thing to do is to claim victory. possession is 9/10 of the law, no, we [bleep] you, you are wrong, [bleep] you. >> right to the violence. >> start smashing pumpkins, if you know what i mean. >> the select committee called mr.

but president trump did not accept that answer. instead, he suggested that the secretary himself might be prosecuted. >> that's the thing, you know, that's a criminal -- that's a criminal offense, and you know, you can't let that happen, that's -- that's a big risk to you and to ryan, your lawyer, that's a big risk. >> we know that president trump's white house advisors reacted negatively. immediately after the call, cassidy hutchinson had a conversation with chief of staff mark meadows. >> i said mark, you can't possibly think we are going to pull this off, that call was crazy, and he shook his head and no, he knows it's over, he knows he's lost but we are going to keep trying. there are some good options out there still, we are going to keep trying. >> this call and other related activity is now the focus of an ongoing criminal investigation in fulton county, georgia. georgia is not the only state where president trump tried to pressure state officials to change the results. he also attempted to pressure state officials in arizon

which is the term donald trump's lawyers used for the trump university fraud case in which donald trump surrendered in the end. and agreed to pay his victims of that fraud a settlement of $25 million. such as the life of defendant trump. leading off our discussion tonight is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel, and former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. he's a professor at practice and why you law school. also with us, barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney and a law professor at the university of michigan law school. they are both msnbc legal analyst. and i promise the audience, the law school class, in the crime fraud exception to attorney-client privilege. which is something, you can hang around courts a long time, and not see that exception show up in a case. but -- but here it is tonight! and let's begin with professor weisman, what do we need to know about the thresholds necessary for a job to find that the crime fraud exception should apply? >> well i think the place to start is the privilege. so normally, a defendant who is speaking wi

to prosecute donald trump? the fact that he is out there lying to the american people about the way that these things work? >> absolutely. it is notable that he continues to make that statement about planting that he has refused to make that statement in the court of law, and before judge cannon, or just theory, or in the 11th circuit. he has not said any of that. why? there are criminal sanctions for those lying in court. he's decided wisely to only make these false statements in public. i would say that also, any person with any sort of logical brain would think, okay, it can't be both planted and they are mine. he can't say that those documents should be returned, if they are planted. also, if you are going to plant documents, you would think that the fbi would plant documents that are not so sensitive that they would never be able to be used in a criminal case. in other words, you're not going to plant top secret part compartmented information where the main issue has been -- and i probably know from my ent

the wave's addiction to trump policies, better known as trump syndrome. for the country to move forward we must come together and move forward rather than backwards. that is my comment. my question is how he think donald trump will respond to my theory? guest: he is not about coming together. that does not work for him. he had opportunities. because he is so ideological flexible there was the hope on the part of some people that he could be, he could work across the lines. because he was a democrat and he was a republican. he is not a super hard-core conservative because you cannot operate in new york that way. he could be the guy who brought the party together. he chose to go hard to the right and that was the people that stood with him. his view was i will stick with people who stuck with me and he did not believe in working with democrats. they were not interested in working with him. the trick is he is never going to be that kind of politician. it may not be any politician can do that. president biden would like to be a uniter yet at times he is seen