it's true in some of the major ones in virginia tech and at tucson. it's a minority of the cases, though. it does happen. but that's one type. another type even more rare is the sadistic psychopath. and that we saw with eric harris the driving force behind columbine. also killers -- most serial killers fall into that type, ted bund city a classic. and these are people who are not mentally ill. they know exactly what they're doing. they're very capable. they're not out of reality. they just have no empathy for other people. they don't care. and with sadistic psychopaths, they actually enjoy inflicting pain on others. they're doing it because they want to, and they want to do this horrific thing. we have those two. believe it or not, the other turns out to be suicidally depressed people. and they're angrily depressives. we don't normally equate anger with depression. psychologists talk about depression as anger turned inward. so you're beating up on yourself. you're presenting outwardly you're this morose beaten down person because you've been beating y

last year it was tucson, arizona, and in 2009 ft. hood, texas. so this is not the first time the president has had to serve in this role as comforter in chief and helping a community heal. >> and, again, still in with those families and first responders. kristen welker, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. >> reporter: thanks, chris. >> let's go to miguel almaguer who's at the sandy hook firehouse. he's been responding to the first responders. good evening, miguel. >> reporter: good evening, chris. the first respoernlds were at the school moments after the 911 call came in. it took them just minutes to make their way into the school. of course, they saw the most horrific things that any human could see. some of the first responders said this was, of course, a difficult tragedy because of the large number of children that were involved in it. of course, many of these first responders knew these children, they had kids who were their

a shooting spree in tucson, arizona -- six dead. 12 killed at a colorado movie theater. mass murder conducted by lone gunmen. but who are these men? and what motivates them? >> we're talking about attacks that are carried out largely by people who are not necessarily psychopathic, not sociopathic, but folks who are relatively normal, but at a point of absolute desperation. >> reporter: according to one estimate, this year alone, there have been 15 mass shootings with at least 84 people killed before today. in the 61 mass murders carried out since 1982, all but one of the 43 shooters were male. most were white and the average age of the primary shooter was 35. nearly half of the mass murders have involved school or workplace shootings. but in recent years, shopping malls, restaurants, and houses of worship have also come under fire. >> mass shooters tend to look for soft targets because they're easy. they want to be able to walk into a situation where people are not armed, they have no idea what's about to happen to them. you can get the jump on them. >> reporter: in many

we saw this tucson, aurora. well, there are issues of privacy. civil liberties. if you have very troubled people, and now there's a kind of new confessional in the land called the internet, there's probably a record. this guy probably was saying some of the things that he was thinking to somebody. and we need to get a hold of that ahead of time. >> governor ridge, what is your experience particularly with the virginia tech shooting aftermath? what does it tell you about where we need to start reacting particularly to senator feinstien? >> i think everyone has really focused on a word you used.

just this summer, aurora, colorado, tucson, arizona, in 2009, ft. hood, texas. in all of these instances, he spends a lot of time with the family members. talking to them about their loved ones, those who are lost, sharing their memories with them. he talks about the fact that this is an important part of the grieving process and he'll be delivering remarks tonight as he has been in the past. these remarks are going to be focused on the victims, focused on helping this community heal. as you say, this is becoming a grim ritual for this president and for this country. >> one thing he takes seriously, when he travels the country so often, these are tightly scripted in terms of a schedule but what we saw in aurora, colorado, he made it clear, i'm going to spend as much time as i think i need to with these families. >> reporter: i think you're absolutely right, chris. it's something he takes very seriously, and tonight i think he's going to spend a lot of times with these families. 26 families of the victims, and, of course, the first responders as well. so he's jus

and it might not have prevented what went on in tucson.that in mind, i wanted to play you something that the former education secretary bill bennett said this morning talking about security around schools. >> i'm not so sure i wouldn't want one person in a school armed, ready for this kind of thing. the principal lunged at this guy. the school psychologist lunged at the guy. has to be someone who's trained, who's responsible, but my god, if you can prevent this kind of thing. >> so, congresswoman, what about that because that's the push from the other side, that they were just completely defenseless inside this school. what would you think about something like that bill bennett is talking about? >> well, to be very honest with you, going back again after the virginia tech legislation was put into leave no child behind which basically i authored and that was to prepare the schools -- and by the way the school of connecticut did everything right and they did. they had the lockdown. but people have to understand we cannot save every life. the

that was our random survey of the headlines last january after the tucson shootings. at least if you asked the beltway shooting gods. now it seems like the common wisdom may be less certain. look at the headlines now. and it's more like this. debate on gun control is revived. lawmakers call for tougher gun laws in wake of new town massacre. gun control debate simmers after sandy hook massacre. nobody is saying it's going to be easy for our country to reform its gun laws in the wake of this latest massacre by someone wielding weapons for combat. nobody says it's going to be easy. but anybody saying it will be impossible is either spinning you or they are not paying attention. history proves the change is possible. history proves that change is the only thing that is inevitable. joining us now is the mayor of newark, new jersey, my friend, corey booker. he's also the member of the coalition of mayors against guns. >> so great to have you. we've had this conversation before and i'm glad to be back. >> yeah, we've had this conversation in our personal lives but we have th

in the past in the wake of tucson, in the wake of aurora, polling said that most people thought this by a troubled person as opposed to a societial problem, so those are two things that today look different, but, again lts a proof is in the pudding here. you can talk -- mayor bloomberg said it. you can talk about doing these things, but you have to actually try to do them. >> dianne feinstein, kelly, is absolutely determined to try to reinstate a revised assault weapon ban. she's very plain spoken. joe manchin said he has had a change of heart, but i suspect that if they get down to the details, they would not agree on them. >> well, one of the challenges for members of congress is that the details make all the difference when it comes to passing legislation. it would be easier to galvanize support. it's so much more complicated. there is more comfort, if you will, in talking about issues like an assault weapons ban or some restrictions on the high velocity ammunition clips. those things seem to be an area where people are more willing to talk, but one of the frustrations is that wha

did you say he's in tucson? >> guest: alan lives in tucson and so does my sister. and my sister served in the state senate for eight or nine years until she was term-limited out, the very place where i had served before her. and she's now a county supervisor for pima county, where tucson is, so she also has had a life in politics, as it were. c-span: only a couple of minutes left. there is a--there are a couple of images in the book. one of them is, if i get--if i read it right, of you and your father--or your father and mother seeing the atomic bomb test at alamo .. >> guest: oh, my father and i did. we were rounding up cattle on the very date that the first atomic bomb exploded over in new mexico, and we had gotten up about 3 am--you know how you do for a roundup. and we were in the kitchen. we'd had some coffee and some breakfast in the kitchen. the kitchen window looked north and i was rinsing off the dishes at the sink, and it must have been about--i don't know--4 am, something like that, and we saw in the north and a little bit east this unbelievable explosio

in tucson, he gave reports for republicans and democrats and independents saying he spoke for an entire nation. it wasn't just speaking for democrats. same after aurora he met the victims in the hospital, folks who survived that shooting at the movie theater. again, he is going through this and that is why he will face treasure in the second term to act. >>bret: thank you, ed. 26 lives were taken inside the school. each of them, of course, young and beautiful. we learn about the children who brought smiles and lit up rooms and the adult, a teacher who died trying to shield her students from gunfire. and others whose actions likely saved likes. the unfathomable loss felt far beyond newtown, connecticut, complete strangers coming from across the country to offer their support and condolences. >> could not sleep last night turn on the news, that matter the channel it is on. the least i can do with the holidays approaching. molly line is live in newtown with more. molly, what are we learning? >>reporter: we are seeing the faces to match with the 20 names of the children. one picture we have

but he's dealt with fort hood, tucson, aurora and now newtown. are we seeing more mass murders? just becoming more agreejous and despicable? why are we seeing four under this president? >> we've always been a country of violence and gun violence. but it does seem to be that, in this way, hollywood, system of these horrible with violence and movies and on cable television and all, we've become a nation of violence. and, in some ways, eating popcorn and you watch it and it doesn't matter. but this one, when it's babies being slaughtered, i think is even different than fort hood and different than tucson. this is something that gets at what it means to be a human being and our country has to do something. >> well, it's scary that we entertain with bloodshed. maybe this will wake us up a sick and sad way to have to be awakened, though. professor douglas brinkley, thanks for your time tonight. ahead, new signs that this tragedy has changed the gun debate in this country. sta with us. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon

from a congresswoman shot at a super market in tucson, arizona. she survived but six others did not. >> our hearts are broken by the sudden passing. our hearts are broken. >> to an aurora colorado movie theater this past summer. >> 12 dead. >> when you have an opportunity to visit with families who have lost their loved ones as i described to them, i come to them not so much as president, as i do as a father. and as a husband. >> late they're same month the president faced criticism from liberals for speech to the national urban league. >> when i said in the wake of tucson was we were going to stay on this persistently. >> the where he talked about violence but carefully danced around the issue of gun control and offer nod specific plans for follow-through. >> we identify gun ownership that pass on from generation to generation that hunting and shooting are part of cherished national heritage but i also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree ak-47s belong in the hands of seasonals not in the hands of criminals. >> today, dramatic chief. spec

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in tucson we saw people that would have come up and said i had a gun and i didn't feel like it wouldhave been a good idea to use it. there was so much chaos and confusion. when the people come in and they plan this for a significant amount of time, they are steady and ready to do this deed, but the people in the area are completely in a panic and people are in shock because this is not something that you expect. >> do you want to see the assault rifles just gone? >> i think getting rid of the assault weapons, you know, it is not a perfect bill. we will never be able to legislate against evil. we can close the loopholes to make sure we're taking them off the street. the other thing that i think is important to raise is the reason why jared loughner only killed six people, the reason only 13 were injured, he had to reload. he had semi-automatic weapon but an extended clip that had 30 rounds. the time he stopped is when someone grabbed the clip when he was trying to reload. >> lori, your daughter survived, survived virginia tech, and i love america and americans for the seven years i ha

, he today said that she sends her prayers from tucson to the people there where you are in connecticut and captain kelly added that he believes a meaningful discussion of those gun laws is long overdue. bill. >> bill: thank you. ed henry on the north lawn at the white house. we're watching this memorial here in newtown. the governor of connecticut has just gone to the pulpit there. let's drop in here for a quick moment. >> may god bless our children who are with us today and those who were taken away. my god bless the adults who lost their lives today. thank you. >> bill: this is small town america, beautiful rolling hills, only 90 minutes north of new york city. neighbors know neighbors and families know families and they're going to need each and every one to get through this. we have live coverage where shortly after today's shooting, police took the suspect's brother out in handcuffs. what happened there? a live look inside of saint rose church. you were just watching where members of the community gather for the first of many memorial services. that's coming up as we approach the

tucson was january 2011.ast-forward to this past summer, july 20th, a midnight screening of the batman movie "dark knight rises" at a movie theater in aurora, colorado. gunman opens fire, kills 12 people and injured 58. on the day of the attack the nra's official comment on the aurora shooting is "our thoughts and prayers with with the victims, their nimes, and the community." but four days after that "the nra believes now is the time for families to grieve and the community to heal. there will be an appropriate time down the road to engage in political and policy discussions." that appropriate time will come but it will be down the road. and down the road came newtown, connecticut. 20 children dead. all 6 and 7-year-olds. six staff members of sandy hook elementary school dead. the alleged gunman's mother also dead. but for anybody waiting for that initial nra statement that seems to come every time something like this happens the immediate statement about their sadness for the tragedy and then a statement a

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. >>> therefore, i, jonathan rothchild, mayor of the city of tucson, arizona, do hereby proclaim januaryth, 2013 to be january 8th remembrance day in this community. >> that was the mayor's chief of staff last night announcing plans for the second anniversary of the tucson shooting. it's been nearly two years since gunman jared loughner opened fire outside a supermarket where congresswoman gabeelle giffords and her staff were holding a news conference. congressman barber was injured in that shooting. he joins me now. thanks for coming in. talk about the what the president is doing today. what do you hope this process -- it seems that one of the things that the white house is struggling with, how do you have this process that is -- that gets the gun rights community to stay a part of it? what do you want to hear from him this morning? >> i really believe that we can put together a broad coalition to deal with particularly the assault weapons and the heavy firepower that these large capacity magazines contain. those of us who were shot and those who were killed on january 8th were shot by

last month i sentenced jar odloughner for his shooting rampage in tucson.s do not have his kind of communication with the public. so i knew i was holding something extraordinary in my hands when i read this. i knew i was going to hand it over to his judge to make this conservative case as he puts it for a ban. he says that tragedy left six people. the judge said that tragedy left six people dead more than twice the number injured and a community shaken to its core. loughner deserved his punishment but during the sentences i questioned the high capacity magazines like the one that fed his glock and i lamented the ban in 2004 which mow hibted the manufacture and deportation of guns that can hold more than ten rounds of ammunition. the ban wasn't that strin gent. if you already owned it you could keep it. but at least it was something and it says something that half of the nation's deadliest shootings it also says something that it has not been two years later and already six mass shootings have been deadlier. the judge said i'm not a social scientist and i kn

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in tucson two years ago.hose shootings happened, more than 24,100 americans have been murdered with guns. >> bill: and we've done nothing about it which gets to the question -- that's the question. is the president showing enough leadership on this issue? 1-866-55-press. i have to tell you, i don't think so. i was so frustrated as were most of us reporters at the white house yesterday at the briefing yesterday where we asked specific after specific after specific. what about the assault weapons ban? what's the president going to do? jay carney. well, we can't tell you. what about the background checks for guns? what's the president going to -- >> we can't tell you. >> bill: does he support the assault weapons ban? what's he going to do about it? we can't tell you. does he support a ban on the high capacity magazines in we can't tell you. does he support a background check on every purchase of a sale or purchase of a gun. well we can't tell you. here's instead we get sort of this from jay carney. >> no single

i've heard those--many of those remarks when he came to tucson and gave his eloquent speech. as i looked around, i began to see shoulder shaking and everyone at the table had lost a child, a parent a friend, or had taken a bullet themselves. it was interesting to watch the president. >> i hope we're not being pollyanna by saying this time will be different. but you've made these videos, and they're poignant, i don't think any elected official could watch them and not say we have to do something. and congressman larsen saying the same thing. will go to washington? will you sit down with members who are on the other side of the issue to try to reason in your quiet and persuasive way? >> absolutely. and as a junior high teacher i can be not quiet as well. >> eliot: i didn't want to go there, i am not sure i wanted to be in your junior high class maybe standing in the corner, perhaps. >> there is a passion in the room today after the press conference. all of us are willing to take that message where our children are being killed. our seniors are being killed. we are being killed

or safeway parking lot like in tucson?eally what happened today at the press conference didn't do gun advocates any favors. in fact, it was like the old joke that chain was secretly on the payroll of the democratic national committee in bush years. he only helped the gun control side with his remarks today. >> here is what michael bloomberg said today. shameful evasion of the crisis in our country. they offered paranoid vision of dangerous, violent america where everybody is armed and no place in safe. agree or disagree? >> i have to a mitt i don't take seriously much that mayor bloomberg says because this is the guy that wants to regulate every aspect of american life including fountain drinks. having said that, i was surprised that wayne lapierre spent as much time as he did point to other potential reasons for crisis. he had a solution, he should have come out, laid out his solution. ask for conversation about it. then moved on. what also became clear today is many people calling for a national conversation in which we

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>> reporter: in 20 # 11, the president made vows in tucson and wrote an op-ed noting it was time to finallytop gun violence ading, quote, like the majority of americans, i believe that t second amendment guarantees an individual right to bear ar, and, in fct, my administration has not curtailed the rights of gun owners, but expanded them. carney was pressed to name one action th president has taken since then. >> i refer you to the justice department for specifics, but we have taken steps specifically on background checks to make the system thorough and complete. >> reporter: what might be differce after this tragedy is the children involved, making it more difficult for the national rifle association to stop action. today, twocentral democrats with ratings by the nra said for the first time they are open to new gun laws. warner tweeted this was a game changer, and mansion seemed to agree. >> this changed the dialogue, and it should move beyond dialogue. we need action. >> reporter: an area of possible agreement is snator diane feinstein reintroducing a ban on assault weapons, one specific

year-old christina taylor greene, who was murdered because she chose to stand in a parking lot in tucson, arizona, and listen to her congresswoman, gabrielle giffords. wayne lapierre is all for having a police officer protect 9-year-old girls in school, but anywhere else a 9-year-old goes in america, a movie theater, a shopping mall, she is on her own. and we know now, she is on her own against the best equipped mass murderers in the history of the human race. that is right, we're number one, usa, usa, we're number one. no country in the world has better equipped mass murderers than the united states of america. and that is thanks to the lifetime work of wayne lapierre. every day since 1977, wayne lapierre has been making sure that mad men in america can fire any gun they want, and any bullet they want. at any children they want, at any teachers, at police officers, at the president. the solution wayne lapierre suggested today to stop school shootings has already been tried in many places across america, including columbine high school, where 13 years ago 12 students and one teacher were

in tucson. >> a gun free zone. guns were banned there. >> eric, let me finish. >> josh.eric, can you let josh finish real confirmation eric, just a second. let josh finish. >> you wouldn't let me get my point out. >> somewhere i, it's not going to work if both of -- gentlemen, it's not going to work if both of you can't listen to each other. >> in tucson there was someone with a concealed carry permit after gabrielle giffords was stopped and the permit holder almost shot the person who disarmed laughner. he didn't shoot, which was great, but the reality of these situations are way too chaotic for the average person. >> show me one person that was shot. >> the level of training to be effective is way too high. we need to deescalate and make sure these weapons are not on our streets and make sure we don't have high capacity ammunition. >> josh, give me one example. >> one second. let me ask you both just a question. josh, president obama says he plans to lay out his plan in the coming weeks. what sort of things do you want to see in this plan? >> i think the two main thing

we go over it in tucson, in aurora. it was the military-style bushmaster type rifle.in afghanistan and iraq. i want to show everybody an ad for the rifle. reading "consider your man card reissued" when it comes to this weapon. what does it say that that's the way a weapon like this is promoted? what does it say also when americans question gun legislation in this land, and the rebuttal is, well, you don't bleed red enough with the american right to bear arms. >> well, guns have been promoted since the 19th century by samuel colt, the guy who designed the weapons of the west, machismo and the guns are deeply woven into american culture. that's something that's not going to change coming out of this horrible event. >> reverend hall, at the sermon, got the standing ovation calling the faithful across the country to rally in support of gun restrictions. i want to show what you had to say. our political leaders need to know there's a political leader who some stand together with our leaders as they act to take assault weapons off the street. just part of the sermon that yo

you were involved in the tucson tragedy with gabrielle giffords. you were there.at do you think of this debate? >> there's three points that i think need to be raised. all due respect to the folks who are talking about having more guns. having more guns does not solve the problem. having people that are trained like the policewoman who stopped and didn't have to call s.w.a.t. because she was trained, that's the difference. in tucson, we saw people who said, i had a gun, but i didn't feel like it was a good idea to use it. there was so much chaos and confusion. when these people come in and planned this for a significant amount of time. they're studied and ready to do this deed. the people in the area are completely in a panic. people are in shock. because this is not something that you expect. >> you want to see these assault rifles gone? >> i think getting rid of the assault weapons, it's not a perfect bill, but we'll never be able to legislate against evil, but we can close loopholes and take weapons off the street. the other thing that's important, the reason g

obama's poised and poignant performance as the consoler in chief at the memorial service held after the tucsonarizona massac massacre. in the make of newtown, mr. obama found it difficult to keep his emotions in check. he appeared in the press briefing room names after james s brady, the press secretary wounded in the shooting attack on president reagan. in the weekly radio address the president was a bit more composed. >> the majority of those who died today were children. beautiful little kids between the ages and five and ten years old. most of most who died were just youngheir whole lives ahead of them. every parent in america has had a heart heavy with hurt. lowered to half staff at the white house and the capitol building yesterday he. the nation's top law enforcement officials attorney general eric holder was in tulsa, oklahoma yesterday honoring the new u.s. attorney installed there. >> i'm a father of three children myself. i can only begin to imagine the pain that the parents in connecticut are feeling today. i want to assure them and people in this nation we're doing everything we c