on the phone this week and agree that talks to in the board and ukraine should begin immediately, ukraine's president was not on that call. in fact, it trump dialed up president zelinski after he had spoken with pro 10 were to add insult to injury. trump had this message for ukraine. joining nato is not going to happen. getting back territory taken by russia is unlikely, and security guarantees will have to come from europe. almost 3 years to the day when russia began its invasion, the world is asking, has the united states betrayed its ally ukraine? i bring the gulf in berlin. this is the day, the theatre, recall. but we want to end that were, that was a disaster pool. i'm not sure it's important that everything does not go according to pretends planned any deed. behind our backs we northward, returning to cranes, pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective. the trump, trump administration, has already made public concessions dependents in the phone that goes to asians. of even begun if that is a good buy, it's a piece and it has never worked properly. the wants to do everything to make h

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c and to ukraine as well. with that in mind as well, that have also been strong, remind is 2 european leaders that europe simply has to do more to step up its defense. and even though there was that offer of that continued return is judging a countries around europe to commit more to defense in order to protect the continent with facing a generational challenge when it comes to national security. obviously, the immediate question is the control of ukraine. and we must continue to put your training in the strongest possible position, whatever happens next, a to make sure that if the is pace and we'll, we'll face. but it is the last thing. i think there's a bigger piece here as well, which is that this isn't just about the from slide. and ukraine is the front line of europe for them to the united kingdom. it's about our national security, and i think that we need to do more. we need to step up as part of that stepping up process as well. okay, so i'm not even committed to the idea of sending over british troops

he is going to take ukraine. he's afraid of a democratic and free ukraine than a nato ukraine. russian citizens see that on their doorstep, it is the end for putin and he knows it. it's not nato, it's a free and democratic ukraine. this martial law in ukraine, how can you get a vote? you can't get an honest vote. trump himself should know about honest votes. host: bob focusing at the end about the criticism on delayed elections are the editorial board of the washington journal bringing up that point when donald trump makes the criticism of volodymyr zelenskyy as a "dictator." they note that ukraine has delayed elections while it is operating under martial law and fighting a war for survival. it's constitution allows it to do this. britain under nazi siege did not hold an election in world war ii asking the question, was churchill a dictator? ? -- the opposite of leverage in any negotiation. mr. trump wants to be able to claim that he brought peace as promised as a candidate. a cautionary tale is joe biden. he tried to wash his hands of afghanistan, but instead his retreat set i

god bless the people of russia and ukraine. i myself just spoke to the president about these calls and he told me to tell all of you. they were very good cause they were very positive and the administration is wholeheartedly committed to a peace deal to end once in for all the russia ukraine war. and mike were starting to see more of the con tours of president trump's plan for peace and ukraine emerge . so tell us more about the call that trump held with russian president vladimir putin as well. once again, it was described as a very pleasant call. he was full of praise, fulls of russian president, saying that the russian president also once peace once to an end to the will with ukraine. but interestingly, trump did not mention the fact that to the us had agreed and was proposing that they'd be no return to the uh, prius, 2014 vote as old that ukraine should continue to reach full and they took membership. and i must just say this, some lines have come out of the white house and the last few minutes. uh, president trump has sai

between ukraine and america.is they cannot agree on the best way to deal with it. when it comes to military support for ukrainians, they don't have the wherewithal. they are in a tough place. caitrÍona: thank you. the families of israeli hostages held in gaza are demanding clarity from the prime minister on the second phase with hamas. hamas says it is willing to release the hostages in one go but families say the lack of a timetable poses a clear danger. the second phase is meant to involve the freeing of all remaining hostages. israel says it will begin this week. qatar's chief mediator. the emir flew to the country, iran is the chief backer of hamas and hezbollah. he said he would stress the need to adhere to the cease-fire deal. >> hamas said it would be willing to hand over in one single swap the hostages in the second phase of the cease-fire. it would demand a full israeli withdrawal from gaza and permanent cease-fire. israel said it would only accept a postwar gaza without the presence of hamas. negotiatio

she said, but ukraine will resist and europe will continue to support ukraine in that. now that's something we did hear from a lot of countries as they came in to nato today. all of the countries who are strong supporters of ukraine, the nordic countries, the baltic states said, you know, they're just going to push on forward with continuing to provide weapons to ukraine . it to the maximum of their capabilities. because the point that europe wants to make, and even pete heck says, said this, is that ukraine should be in a strong position. you know, when it comes to the table and the european se, if it comes to the table. and you can't say that ukraine is in that strong military position right now. so i think the view of the european allies is, you know, we're just going to keep calm and carry on providing weapons to ukraine until president zaleski decides he doesn't need them anymore. exit said that native membership for ukraine would not be a realistic outcome. could ukraine then be given some form of a native of light protection instead of full membership as well? le

will not participate in ukraine knew nothing about it. ukraine assess, has any negotiations about ukraine without ukraine, as having no result. we cannot recognize any things or agreements about us without us. so lensky is rejected for now, a potential minerals deal with the us because he says it did not come with the security guarantees. he seeking, if military support from the us is no longer given. and here it is not yet filled the gap, ukraine's leadership phase and imposed p still now would be a loser. it's nothing would prevent russia from attacking again, for which happens, how does 0, what you're paying leaders of how their own emergency stomach and the french capital to discuss their role in ukraine's future. the german chancellor left schultz. i was wanting to know did come be imposed on ukraine, the cold in europe, and the us to act together when it comes to keen security latasha bucket reports from powers for your pin security. is that a turning point? said to you commission cheapest. she's joined other you lead isn't the head of nato for an emergency summit in paris. the bloc

ukraine out of the process. this map shows the extent of russian progress in the war, here in red, territory regained or held by ukraine, in purple. we are just days from the third anniversary of russia's full—scale invasion of ukraine. we'll have reaction to president trump's comments shortly, but first, here's our north america editor sarah smith. donald trump and vladimir putin — not friends exactly, certainly not allies, but able to work together. like at this summit in helsinki in 2018. mr trump seems to have a wary admiration for the russian strongman, and he says they enjoyed a long, productive phone call today, even promising to visit each other�*s countries. on social media, he posted... there have actually been over 100,000 deaths not millions. and he went on... thatjust raises so many questions. when there is so much hurt here, and there's so much funding that our people need. so although we have always been the country bailing everybody out, i think, at a certain point, we need to take a step back, a

today he called them talks about ukraine without ukraine. now you are a secretary of state of mark a rubio said in the european leaders and ukraine will also be consulted on reaching an enter. the more what do you make of those comments? and when do you think ukraine will be consulted? a load? surely. presidents that landscape has his clear and a strong statement on the as, as it's been called, i don't, i don't even know what to call a consultation or by laterals which occurred today uh for 4 and a half hours excluding for now the center of this topic. which is ukraine, as it was russia who invited us, who are temporarily occupied 20 percent of the territories and was when minister law for over saying that they are. i'm citing afraid of few crane joining for in armies and then invasion crime. yeah, it's sounds better ridiculous because it's russia who invade his crime in 2014 and i think, you know, the replacements of this arguments shouldn't be their presence events could clearly stated in munich, security conference, widely attended, also

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but the yes, again, these with tools with no ukraine. okay. sorry, the very, very 1st round, but no ukraine even invited to the tools. i fundamentally disagree with, and that's all here because this war is not just about ukraine, it's about, you know, the european piece florida reached out nowadays and treacherous, obviously. and if to reward rush or by accepting maybe even the you are accepting for some, you can't accept the occupation of annexation of some of his territory territory. so it would completely destroy the what's left of the european piece order. and it's more, it's not just about your questions about the, about us, it's about principles of changing bonus by force. so that's why it's important to repel the russian regression. i agree that you know right now your credit is not in strong position, but by forcing it into hastily agreed to it talks and may be in making deeper concessions with further we condemn. so we have to ask ourselves, what is it speak, and your opinions are, are, i'm trying to find answers and we get to that la

for ukraine.to the program. well, it's the first time since the invasion of ukraine that the u.s. and russia have held high-level talks. those talk lasted four hours and took place in saudi arabia. afterwards tv's agreed that more negotiations would take place after what has been described as a constructive meeting between the u.s. secretary of state marco rubio and his russian counterpart sergei lavrov. they said all sides must make concessions. all this come amid a failurey of diplomacy, sparked by a change in approach from the new president trump. but this is the kicker. neither ukraine nor europe had a seat at the table today so while he was shut out of the talks in riyadh. ukraine's president, zelensky was in angara meeting his kurdish counterpart. they criticized the talks in saw rain as talks about ukraine without ukraine and he said negotiations should not take place behind our backs. we hear from our correspondents in riyadh, moscow and in kyiv but let's start with an overview from our di

again, about ukraine without ukraine levels. i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums at the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now nimble at this given point, at the very least, it appears russia is in a position where it is spoken of willing that russia will be brought back into the fault. and that it will take a different approach that it will work with its regional partners that will work with out of your way to be in charge here to ensure that all the parties that are currently interested in which is the supplement piece to make it happen. but of course, there's a great deal of a sudden from savanski, especially taken to consideration that he did not know that the us delegation would be meeting with it's russian counterparts and expects the us to make its way to, to have to the doorsteps of the landscape. that that's how rushes for a ministry spokeswoman has described. the use vision for how the ukraine complex should end. maybe jim, we see a nervous, it's not panic reaction from the west of the russian a

ukraine has dominated the conversation. we were talking backstage about the scale and scope of chinese espionage that the u.s. and europe faces. your own personal story from your time in working doj before you came to the hill and what threat that poses? >> thank you for having me. my relationship with china goes back to 1997. i prosecuted the case. he was taking money, as we proved later from the director chinese intelligence and aerospace, putting it into a hong kong bank account, into the dnc for the clinton campaign. i wasn't a republican or democrat then. i was independent. it goes back that far in terms of trying to influence elections but also the espionage taking place when my fbi agent in l.a., the lead for the counterintelligence got indicted for espionage. the whole time i was working with him on this case. you cannot make this up. the cultivated an fbi asset, katrina, who turned out to be a double agent reporting to beijing. >> it's personal for you? >> it's personal. the information i gave him when the wall was

without ukraine. i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums at the most difficult moment. it's why are we likely to do it now to be insured at this given point, at the very least, it appears russia is in a position where it is open and willing to negotiate, to the extent that it has for the 1st time in give or take 3 years met with it's us counterparts and of course one other significant development is cause of course the re election of us present. and donald trump under the bite and integration to us, try to isolate russia essentially pushing it away from any prospects of peace or negotiations. and it appears under the binding, sorry, under the trump administration, that there is room for negotiation that russia will be brought back into the fold. and that it will take a different approach that it will work with its regional partners that will work with saudi arabia and target to ensure that all the parties that are currently interested in which is the supplement piece to make it happen. but of cou

ukraine will not participate. ukraine knew nothing about ukraine, assesses any negotiations, but ukraine without ukraine as having no results. the other ones are in jordan, this is out as they are a licensed. oh, so it's coming up to your family. it is hold their own emergency so much in the car as to discuss their role in ukraine's future. dozens of bodies buried in the rooms . we visit an apartment block and gaza demolished by his writing for the incredible, across london up to one to a passenger planes. lips upside down, but most passengers look away on the top difference in the us and russian with the whole talks in saudi arabia on tuesday and the ending, the war in ukraine. kind of a meeting as spunk, concerned among europe, young leaders and ukraine's president into one's key will not recognize any deal made without it's involvement. really challenge reports a few weeks ago the meeting, the us secretary of state is in saudi arabia. to attend, wouldn't be possible off the rushes invasion of ukraine. the bite and administration stopped full high level dialogue with most k bumped off

what do you think about ukraine? caller: i think ukraine is fighting for their freedom. we in america stood for freedom. we should back ukraine as long as they are being attacked by another country. i thought we stood for that. give me liberty or give me death. i think ukraine is doing a good job fighting for their freedom. host: do you think ukraine should give up land in exchange for peace? caller: no. no. host: how does the war end? does it just keep going? caller: russia should stop attacking them. russia started the work. russia should pack up and go back home. host: how do you get russia to do that? caller: you continue to fight them as long as they are being attacked. like if somebody came into your home and taking over your home. lay down your arms, i'm taking over your home. your life belongs to mina. -- your wife belongs to me now. host: let's see what pete has egseth said about the administration's approach. [video] >> we are at a critical moment. as the were approaches its third anniversary, our message is clear. the bloodshed must stop. this war must end. pr

troops deployed to ukraine. to further enable effective diplomacy is and drive down energy prices that fund the rush arian war machine,-president trump is unleashing energy production and encouraging other nations to do the same. lower energy prices coupled with more effective enforcement of energy sanctions will help bring russia to the table. safeguarding european security must be an imperative for european members of nato. as part of this, europe must provide the overwhelming share of future lethal and nonlethal aid to ukraine. members of this contact group must meet the moment. this means donating more ammunition and equipment, leveraging comparative advantages, expanding your defense industrial base, and importantly, leveling with your citizens about the threat facing europe. part of this is speaking frankly with your people about how this threat can only be met by spending more on defense. 2% is not enough. president trump has called for 5%. and i agree. increasing your commitment to your own security is a

a deployment in ukraine could dwarf these. taste ukraine could dwarf these.large force on the ground for an expended period. in the ground for an expended period. in the _ the ground for an expended period. in the nineties british troops were part of a un mission in bosnia. in the 2000s they supported a force in sierra leone, but what is being considered in ukraine is different. it would be big and it wouldn't be a nato mission. the us defence secretary is clear any force won't be protected. and russia said the appearance of troops from european countries is unacceptable. put all of this together and in practice the prime minister's proposal would mean significantly expanding the uk's military and a willingness if need be to engage russia or its proxies. it is an acknowledgement of how much has changed. it's an extraordinary sight — this plane upside down on the runway in canada. some of the passengers who survived this plane crash yesterday evening have been describing the moment their plane flipped over, leaving them dangling upside down. 80 people were on

ukraine knew nothing about ukraine, assesses any negotiations, but ukraine without ukraine. that's happening. no results. the, until mccrae, this is al, to is there a line from time? so coming up, european leaders hold their own emergency summers in paris to discuss the role in ukraine's future. an incredible crash landing in toronto airport, a passenger plane slips, but most passengers look away on sky. imagined changes president has investigated either the prize and from the crypt, our currency, the one down and vista savings, the diplomats from the us and russia will hold talks and saudi arabia on choose day i ended ending the war new crime. the high level, amazing has spot concert and among european leaders and new crimes president who was cable not recognize any deal made without its involvement or a challenge has more. a few weeks ago, the meeting, the us secretary of state is in saudi arabia. to attend, wouldn't be possible off the rushes invasion of ukraine. the bite and administration stopped on high level dialogue with moscow bumped off to a 90 minute phone call wi

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this is because this is not just about ukraine. ukraine is central to european security, but this is about the very concept of american engagement in europe. what kind of an ally it's uses to be in the future? there's an awareness in we're getting back from the background thoughts as well. this is a, we'll see of what that means and concrete tons in terms of us withdrawal from europe and what impact that could have on relations, particularly with russia. does nato still pose the credible threat to russia? that's still, that's now an open question as well. so rather telling that students math is the one german leader who is going to the polls likely next sunset. because his concept is cdc is who is in the lead. stacy vance is meeting him. he's not meeting the sole source of democrats. so kind of holding it just round about 15 percent. so actually it seems in the focus towards who may become the future data on the side of the van is just donald trump says there might be a high level meeting in munich with senior russian officials. but the head of the municipality conferences, he's not

all allies and ukraine are united in their desire for peace in ukraine. we all agree that we need to put ukraine in the best possible position for negotiations. and we need a durable and lasting peace, not a minsk 3. so we had an excellent set of discussions focused on the urgent work ahead. when it comes to keeping our deterrence and defense strong, we endorsed robust defense plans drawn up by supreme allied commander general kavoli to protect our 1 billion people. to ensure we are fully ready to execute these plans, also in the future, we need more military capabilities, and for that we need significantly more defense spending. so there is no time to waste. our continued freedom and prosperity depend on it. defense spending is already growing. since 2014, european allies and canada have added more than $700 billion additional us dollars for defense. in 2024, nato allies in europe and canada invested $485 billion us dollars in defense, a 20% increase compared with 2023. with a full 2/3 of allies spending at least 2% of their gdp on defense. but we need t

or piece in ukraine, but why wasn't and ukraine on the call, and what about america's european allies direct go out to the kremlin? did trump hang off on everyone else? european leaders had been quick to say any deal to in the fighting in ukraine must include ukraine. any lasting piece will have to involve europe, european money, european weapons, to, to night a showdown between transaction, trump and americans, european friends. they want to have their say, trump wants them to pony up and pay. i'm for golf in berlin. this is the day, the in washington. there was a new sheriff in town. i don't see that the us has already made plan. a hail ukraine would, we can europe, but it was also reconfigured night. it states that alternative to the inclination. ok, we'll wait lawyer and the new american administration has a different will view to us. one with no regard for established rules. the insulator and the threats that i worry, the most about piece of the europe is not russia. what i worry about is the threat from within also it coming up of what the us vice president said to a anger and g

the power struggle is brewing in ukraine. a local man central forward using here, but no longer up to the task of running the country. and as the landscape is staring down the barrel of a military, the coming to your lot from most coastal attempt to national as always thank you for choosing awesome. so keeping me company this, our well, next stop a re at the kremlin has officially confirmed the most as top to come up. so, okay, now for off, along with the presidential aid will meet with the us delegation in saudi arabia. on tuesday, they are expected to discuss the ways of potentially resolving the ukraine conflict . they are expected to hold discussions with their american counterparts on tuesday, which will primarily focused on restoring the full spectrum of russian american relations. additionally, they will address preparations for possible negotiations regarding the ukranian situation and organizing a meeting between the 2 presidents, the latest comments that we have from any sort of russian official on these upcoming ne

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clear as the money that was sent to ukraine, will the assistance that was sent to ukraine. and we, since he is, has been in connection with ukraine's will efforts. it was not, as donald trump would have had some form of loan, it was a grand match shop. the assistance was in military equipment. once again, a trump putting a dollar finger on this assistance over the last few years. but looking at this already using the pension of what the us plan is for a negotiated solution. he has already, uh, president trump rolled out you credit and getting back any territory until before 2014. he has also ruled out as president trump. any ideas that you claim might have of starting nato. this would be normally part of the negotiation. here you have the us presenting itself as an honest broker in these talks, or really assessing the terms for any c spy or any agreement between russia and ukraine. terms that on the face of it exceedingly and favorable to ukraine. my how to thank you. or are you crazy? impressed as the minister lensky gave his nicely address, softer his phone call with dona

what do you think about ukraine? caller: i think ukraine is fighting for their freedom. we in america stood for freedom. we should back ukraine as long as they are being attacked by another country. i thought we stood for that. give me liberty or give me death. i think ukraine is doing a good job fighting for their freedom. host: do you think ukraine should give up land in exchange for peace? caller: no. no. host: how does the war end? does it just keep going? caller: russia should stop attacking them. russia started the work. russia should pack up and go back home. host: how do you get russia to do that? caller: you continue to fight them as long as they are being attacked. like if somebody came into your home and taking over your home. lay down your arms, i'm taking over your home. your life belongs to mina. -- your wife belongs to me now. host: let's see what pete has egseth said about the administration's approach. [video] >> we are at a critical moment. as the were approaches its third anniversary, our message is clear. the bloodshed must stop. this war must end. pr

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i think it is a mistake because ukraine needs nato for sure, but nato, too, needs ukraine.rld. i million battle—hardened people with battle experience in the 21st century. nobody else. no army in the world except russia has such experience. that is something that is very valuable. i think it is a mistake to keep such an army outside the eu. it is much wiser to keep it inside. i hope our allies will soon get to this point. speaking of the map, the map of ukraine will not change. there is a map and international law. these territories are ukrainian. today part of them are controlled by russia. it is possible that after ending of hostilities, part of our territories will still be occupied. but we will never accept the fact they are russian. and notjust we, but the whole civilised world i'm sure, will never do this. it is about international law and order. sooner and later this russian empire will fall apart like it happened with the russian empire 100 years ago, the soviet union 30 years ago, and we will regain all our territories. as we've mentioned, ukraine says the radiatio

he's over in ukraine on the train. and there's a lot of things happening around that train that aren't so good. and he's going there to get a document done where we're going to be in a sure that we're gonna, in some form, get this money back because we're putting up far more money than europe. and europe isn't far more danger than we are. we have an ocean in between. europe has nothing in between. that's cost to might honda now in washington dc. first we might tell us more about this phone call with that in the future. what it appeared to be very warm. uh president trump is saying that the president booting is interesting and the interested in striking a deal interested in some form of seats by saying that he wants peace. so very clearly, trump opening a negotiation process as to the, with the russian president saying as well that he's going to be meeting the russian president face to face in the very near future. possibly, he says meeting in saudi arabia and denise the saudi crown prince. so this is now getting tracti

so why couldn't ukraine do that? and why shouldn't the american people share in that through rivers, through their energy and through their state owned enterprises. and we bring best practices in terms of privatization in terms of modernization the ukrainians, the mineral resources of bost with use for a number of high tech industries from the green to the defense sectors is titanium and lithium reserves are some of the largest in europe. the analysts say if the us and you agree and signed a mineral agreement, the contracts could run into the trillions of dollars. but someone's key says that he wouldn't be signing this deal on ukraine's resources with america since it didn't provide any security guarantees. and your asian studies academic and commutative, greg simon says that sky is likely in the end to sell anything to the trump and ministration. if it means he can hold on to power, it is does desperately need noises. time is rapidly running out. and i mean, he is absolutely nowhere to go. you some informa, i mean a

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why should we be defending ukraine? and if he were to negotiate a deal that seems favorable to russia rather than ukraine, that americans should be okay with that, because ukraine is really a villain, not a victim. >> okay, so timing of all this, ben, we can't forget it's happening before any substantive negotiations with the russians even begin, right? so if the russians don't think that the us is ultimately going to back ukraine, why would they agree to anything? >> well, that's the problem. some people might say, well, inevitably ukraine is going to have to give up some territory. and inevitably it's difficult to consider them having a full nato membership. okay, you might get there at the end of a negotiation, but by putting that out at the beginning, by essentially saying the beginning, that you're going to agree to russia's terms to end the war, and by beginning to discuss sanctions relief, which was one of the topics that secretary rubio discussed with the foreign minister lavrov, you are skipping ahead to all th

troops in ukraine is unlikely. of ukraine membership in nato as a part of a negotiated settlement unlikely. i stand by the comments i made on that first day ukraine contact group. that is for all the press, it's difficult for them to understand that. we stand by the statement we made in reality about the status of u.s. forces or ukraine's involvement in nato, and the unlikely nature of that. host: our correspondent will vernon has more on that visit. will: at the news conference following those talks, pete hegseth said that he stood by those incendiary comments he made earlier in the week in brussels that it was unlikely that ukraine would join nato or go back to its pre-2014 borders. mr. hegseth said he was just being realistic. he said it was too early to define the framework, the terms of any peace negotiations. he said that would be up to president trump and not have. critics said that is exec lay what you have done by dismissing the prospect of nato membership or ukraine getting its land back, you have already

the talks are part of a flurry of diplomacy focused on ukraine this week. neither ukraine nor europe were granted a seat at the table with us and russian officials in riyadh on tuesday. instead, us envoy keith kellogg will meet separately with ukrainian officials in kyiv. and while russia and the us were talking, ukraine's president zelensky was in turkey with that country's president, recep tayyip erdogan. yesterday, european leaders held an emergency summit in paris. france is understood to be planning a second meeting wednesday to discuss ukraine and wider european security, underlining the urgency being felt about here was the us, the biggest single backer of ukraine, sitting down with its friend's enemy — russia. both sides were silent and stony—faced for the media, but vladimir putin's team clearly happy that president trump had ended their isolation. and the world was about to be shown it. we were brought in for a short amount of time at the very start of the meeting. so the doors opened, the press brought in, and then we saw taken place at that leve

and ukraine regards any negotiations about ukraine without you frame as having no results. we cannot recognize any things or agreements about us that took place without us. but let's cross live to manage in the editor of a covert action and magazine. jeremy cruz matter of. it's nice to have you join me right now, jeremy. now this meeting in the yard is essentially talks about 2 to a talks. what are your pay will come out of this gathering? do you think that will be? you will be any discussion of what the potential piece plan will look like. i think there will be, i mean it's nice that they're sitting down at the table as you are for pointed out . it's been a long time since there's been any dialogue and discussion. and i think the trump administration really wants to focus on china and sees china as a primary threats and sees potentially beneficial relations with russia. yeah. uh, something that could benefits united states. so, i mean, i, i think they will start to, you know, discuss the term piece deals and i think of us will ultimately have to accept russian territorial

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to say the ukraine will not take part. ukraine knew nothing about this. and ukraine regards any negotiations about ukraine without you frame as having no results. we cannot recognize any things or agreements about us that took place without us. in the meantime, washington's handouts, the key of seem to have been put on hold. in fact, some report suggests that the us has told us ally, but it's now time to stop settling its debt with the number of $500000000000.00 being folks around. now to understand that scale bucks more than the reparations, but john many have to pay out all to weld $1.00. donald trump has previously suggested that ukraine could hand over its wet, of minerals, oil and gas resources. this one has some infrastructure, like ports. and as the demands on kids grow, daily rushes, i'm positive, you had noted that any shoot should do, will have fall was comes then had previously been on off in the way it's a moving team is literally understanding that the men's provisions are unattainable . and that the new conditions for ending the hostilities

ukraine wasn't invited. a deepening rift between the united states and ukraine.a country left. in the wrong direction. to the war with russia. i do, i think the russians want to see the war end, and i do, i really do. but i think they have the cards a little bit because, so they have the cards. to ukraine and gave his backing to efforts to achieve long—lasting peace. in response, president zelensky wrote on x, "we will never welcomed by moscow. since we do not see how we can negotiate with him kind of agreement, and tomorrow, he as the president. so this piece of paper will have much of paper will not have much value. in 2019, before the war. but since russia's full—scale invasion of ukraine, elections said the us president was living in a "disinformation space" governed by moscow. all the support he can get. but it's clear that it won't be from president trump. well, it will come as no surprise to you i think to hear £2: 22: 77 7thi7s7isal7l7777 77 7thi7sis all7goi7n7g7 7 77 this is all going down that this is all going down very well in the very well in moscow.

no troops in ukraine. on 2nd, the pre 2014 ukraine board is asked before the arctic station of crime. there are unrealistic objectives. what are the leave ridges is left in these negotiations? and i think as you know, that most people were shocked because, you know, trump had to go straight and book the heart of the deal. so it seemed like they laid out for things on the table that could have been incense of some sort of leverage with the russians. other ellis have said that this was a way to bring brush it to the table. but let's not forget, you know, this was a word choice by putting in ukraine and that ukrainian says pay to her wrist, take cost for this work in terms of keep the data civilians soldiers and destroying of the country. so does he just want to be seen as rewarding pollutants moved? there was the last, most flores are ended through some sort of piece negotiation. so i think that's the leverage issue is key. i mean, the us can have economic and military leverage that something that they can b

we want ukraine to win this war or not? ukraine would like to go to negotiations, we need to be together with them and provide all the necessary help to them to be in a stronger position. because we see also the last stage that they are conducting a counteroffensive not only in lursky, but in the donetsk and lugansk region -- not only in kursk. and they are successful. it's a very thin line we are standing at the moment where there is the possibility for ukraine to be in a better position for these negotiations. christian: do you worry, as america steps away, that vladimir putin will test article v by taking a shot at a country like yours, estonia, and whether america would respond. do you think the risk of that kind of event has grown today, with the statement we have heard from pete hegseth? guest: he said very clearly that the u.s. will not go away from -- will not leave nato. that this is a very clear statement. christian: but, that not precisely what i am asking you. i am asking you whether you believe whether donald t

a very strong practice for ukraine. ukraine's future is in the need to nato is bigger and stronger. ukraine is closer to nathan membership than ever before. and as the brave ukraine continues to fight for the freedom, we stand by their sides. you know, from what we're seeing currently on the t up electrical front. things are shifting and actually made 2 chief during his speech was only admiring who 10 i have had many meetings with him between 201-2014 in my previous role. and he is a strong negotiator and he is free, unpredictable. but in the end, if you want to get to a piece deal, we need him there. nothing. we've seen a major shift in our as if from the u. s. in the past was 36 hours when it comes at to the ukraine conflict. what's being said, well, in reality it will seems like for us to side lining the hue and ukraine and k of has the right to worry about this because, and to worry the us is going to sidelines you creating it from any potential nice negotiations. because trump was actually off the land, if you create is going to have a new full foot in negotiations. and interesting que