, but just vote it up or vote it down. i'm confident if we work together, congress will avert this looming manmade economic calamity. it's slate but it's not -- it's late but it's not yet too late for republicans and democrats to come together for the sake of our country in fashioning a bipartisan solution to raise the debt limit and reduce our long-term debt and give our economy the long-term foundation to prosper. i've had the privilege to represent vermont in the united states senate for 37 years. i've been blessed enough to witness many times when the senate's shown its remarkable ability to rise up to reflect the conscience of the nation. i believe now is such a time for democrats, for republicans in the senate, for the good of the country to once again rise to the occasion, to have us be the conscience of the nation. i yield the floor. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from florida. mr. nelson: mr. president, while the distinguished senator from michigan is here on the floor, who is one of

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they might well put it to a vote, allow it to come to a vote.he real question, gloria has been making the point all week. how do they come up with an enforcement mechanism, which allows assurance that there will be reduction in the deficit in the second round, but not tied to the debt ceiling. >> the president said he would accept spending caps and some trigger if promised savings don't materialize. everybody stand by. one more quick break. when we come back, david, gloria, eric, still with us, and kate bolduan. a bit of a delay on capitol hill, despite that, urgency to get this done by august 2nd, coming up early next week. special coverage live from capitol hill continues, after this. it moves effortlessly, breathes easily. it flows with clean water. it makes its skyline greener and its population healthier. all to become the kind of city people want to live and work in. somewhere in america, we've already answered some of the nation's toughest questions. and the over sixty thousand people of siemens are ready to do it again. siemens. answers.

one vote.d of baper for getting as far as he has gotten. >> you are our democratic strategist. is this an embarrassment? >> it's an embarrassment to the united states of america that we cannot get people to sit down and collaborate and compromise and come up with a solution. the republicans won this debate, this round of this debate. i will tell you why. both sides are talking about spending cuts. cuts that will alter our landscape forever. senior citizens, elderly, the disabled. veterans and others, it's time to come up with a deal that the american people will have to swallow hard and go ahead and pass this this weekend so that our dollar is not weakened. our interest rates will not go up. those are us with a little bit of money, we saw it sleep away yesterday. if we let this default happen, i don't care if you are tea party or independent or republican. it is stupid to put this country in this position. yes, i applaud him for getting us this far, but take us across the aisle right now and ge

can vote yes or no. i voted yes for cut, cap and balance and no for the boehner bill today. >> nice to see you. speak boehner was not able to herd all the republicans in the house. despite the rogue 22 the speaker's bill did pass the house and last night's aborted vote followed by last minute revisions made some members of the house flip flop or at least that is what critics are saying. one congressman who divided to vote yes is joining us today. you are running for the senate to replace senator jon kyl in arizona and the democrats have come out and tagged you a flip flopper. the ink and the even try on your vote. >> the bill changed. myself and several other conservatives went to the speaker and others and said we would like to have the balanced budget amendment part of the bill. it wasn't before. we stood for cut, cap and balance. the boehner bill had cut and cap but it didn't have the balance and they were able to add that and therefore it got my vote. i don't begrudge those who voted against it. >> g

members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote the yeas are 158 -- the chair: on this vote the yeas are 158 and the noes are 264. the amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the amendment afered by the gentleman from arizona, mr. gosar, on which further proceedings were postpone and which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the -- will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. gosar of amendment. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by elect

roll call vote 522, i would have voted no. roll call vote 523, i would have voted yes. roll call vote reaffirming the united states' commitment to a negotiated settlement to the israeli-palestinian conflict and for other purposes, i would have voted aye. for friday, july 8, when i missed votes for that reason, official business, roll call vote number 525, i would have voted no. 526, i would have voted no. 527, i would have voted no. roll call 528 which interferes with the chaplain's duties in the united states military, i would have voted a resounding no. 529, no. 530, i would have voted no. and roll call vote 533, i would have voted yes. i ask respectfully for these vote representations to be placed in the appropriate place in the record. i ask unanimous consent. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the chair lays before the house the following personal requests. the clerk: leaves of absence requested for mr. neugebauer for monday, july 11. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the request is granted. the chair will entertain one-minute requests. for what

i suspect they don't have 60 votes even though one or two or three republicans might, gloria, vote with the democrats on this. there are 53 effective democrats, 51 democrats, two independents, lieberman and bernie sanders of have vth. >> here's kind of an interesting little thing to look for in this, as our congressional producer ted barrett points out, at the end of the vote, look for harry reid to change his vote from yay to nay. and this is a procedure that allows him to bring this up again so it can be used as the vehicle for any eventual compromise. so he has to vote against his own measure in the end. >> yeah. that's just a formula. but they want to keep this legislative framework alive. >> exactly. >> so if in fact the negotiations are resolved and they've got the language they need, they have this vehicle, they've already done the preliminary procedural work to set the stage for it, and then they can have a formal vote on this. if they need 60 votes i suspect they will get it in the senate. the question is what happens in the house of representatives. you have a lot of tea party

all republican votes. not a single democratic vote. and a scant majority, 218 out of 435 member house. when it came to the united states senate, it was dead on arrival on a bipartisan basis. a bipartisan majority of senators, 59 voted to table the boehner proposal. and now we have a chance to reopen this conversation. and i can tell you there is a growing sentiment among senators on both sides of the aisle to sit down and reach a reasonable compromise and to save our economy from the disaster that awaits us if we fail to extent this debt ceiling. what these senators on the republican side are waiting for is a permission slip from senator mcconnell. he told them to hold back until boehner had his chance. hold back until the boehner bill came to the floor. that is all history now. the american people want us to move forward. they want us to come up with a bipartisan approach that doesn't have us relive this scene that we have seen for the past week over and over and over again like the old groundhog day movie. we want to get this done in

all republican votes. not a single democratic vote. and a scant majority, 218 out of 435 member house. when it came to the united states senate, it was dead on arrival on a bipartisan basis. a bipartisan majority of senators, 59 voted to table the boehner proposal. and now we have a chance to reopen this conversation. and i can tell you there is a growing sentiment among senators on both sides of the aisle to sit down and reach a reasonable compromise and to save our economy from the disaster that awaits us if we fail to extent this debt ceiling. what these senators on the republican side are waiting for is a permission slip from senator mcconnell. he told them to hold back until boehner had his chance. hold back until the boehner bill came to the floor. that is all history now. the american people want us to move forward. they want us to come up with a bipartisan approach that doesn't have us relive this scene that we have seen for the past week over and over and over again like the old groundhog day movie. we want to get this done in

all republican votes. not a single democratic vote. and a scant majority, 218 out of 435 member house. when it came to the united states senate, it was dead on arrival on a bipartisan basis. a bipartisan majority of senators, 59 voted to table the boehner proposal. and now we have a chance to reopen this conversation. and i can tell you there is a growing sentiment among senators on both sides of the aisle to sit down and reach a reasonable compromise and to save our economy from the disaster that awaits us if we fail to extent this debt ceiling. what these senators on the republican side are waiting for is a permission slip from senator mcconnell. he told them to hold back until boehner had his chance. hold back until the boehner bill came to the floor. that is all history now. the american people want us to move forward. they want us to come up with a bipartisan approach that doesn't have us relive this scene that we have seen for the past week over and over and over again like the old groundhog day movie. we want to get this done in

we're willing to vote right now. 60 votes. 60 votes we're not willing to take because this is a filibuster. this should not be filibustered. and so, mr. president, we are not going to agree to the six-month proposal because, as i indicated in my prepared remarks, that would mean that we would be back in this mess in a matter of weeks. we want to be fully engaged. i repeat to the people that supposedly sent me this letter, what do you want? what do i say to my caucus because my republican colleagues haven't come up with any alternative? it would be easy to do. you can amend my legislation. in the meantime, that won't happen. we're going to proceed forward and do the very best we can to overcome this filibuster. mr. mcconnell: mr. president? the presiding officer: the republican leader. mr. mcconnell: i'll just wrap up my commends by pointing out again comments from my good friend the majority leader about the nature of the senate. he said in the senate it's always been the case you need 60 votes. always been the case you need 60 votes. we all know that. it's a very --

have the votes, right?uestion about that. a lot of insiders will say they think they may be very close, or maybe indeed have the votes, but it may be too close for comfort. so what you have right now is dotting their is and crossing their ts to make sure they have the 216 votes they need to pass the boehner plan. certainly they don't be embarrassed by bringing up the speaker's plan and have it fail in the house of representatives. bret? roig our producer up there, we've seen him in the live shots we've taken of some of the hallways, chasing down these members coming out of offices, essentially being whipped. that means being arm-twisted to say you need to vote for this. this is the best deal that republicans can take. >> yeah. sounds like there's two different operations going on. one at the speaker's ceremonial office, the other at majority leader's cantor's office. one said, i'm still a bloody and beaten no. a congressman from texas saying, he was charging his phone in there when he was getting his talkin

we have enough votes in the senate. >> if you get to vote, whether or not you succeed with the vote, will that satisfy you? >> it won't satisfy me or our credit ratings. they want something long term. >> one more question, are you willing to let the federal government default whether in a few days or a couple weeks? are you willing to let it default or something has to be done before that? >> i believe something needs to be done and has to be done to avoid a default and a downgrade. it's hard for washington to do big things. they are used to the status quo. >> i wish we had more time. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >>> i want to bring in congressman mack. he's voting against the boehner plan. good evening. what have you been hearing today? have people been twisting your arm? >> i haven't had my arm twisted. i made it clear to the leadership, for me, this is about balancing the budget. i have introduced a plan that would do just that by cutting 1% of spending a year for six years, capping spending at 18% of gdp. we balance the budget in eight years all by taking one penny out of

they want to vote on whether to allow a vote on the reid proposal. that's what a cloture vote is. and they don't want to vote on the reid proposal. we have offered that and said that a majority should rule. just like the boehner proposal passed in the house with a simple majority, we want a chance to pass the reid proposal with a simple majority. now, my friend says, that's laughable. why is it laughable? we went back and looked at the record, mr. president, and every vote we can find on increasing the debt was always done by a simple majority. always. so if you want to follow tradition, cut out the filibuster, let us vote, and we will pass the reid proposal tonight. and we can find a way to resolve these problems. my colleague also said, democrats want to raise taxes. let me just say something. democrats want to reduce taxes on the middle class, but we do believe that multinational corporations, people who earn over $1 billion a year and $1 million a year should pay their fair share. we do believe that. senator sanders researched and you found out that the richest 400 families in

he's never tried to get a democratic vote. but that's where the votes are. it's sitting on the other side of the aisle. give up your craziness, john boehner. see if can you find, i don't know, 50 not insane republicans and then we can give you the resting democratic votes if you get the crazy ideas off the table. >> that suggests this is not just about painting the world purple and making things friendly and washington discourse more civil. it's a suggestion that reason we need bipartisanship is because otherwise we can't govern. that the state actually shuts down, that this is the ultimate dysfunction. >> there comes a moment where the thing you want to do, nafta is a great example, trade deals are a great example. the thing you want to do, the support for it is in the middle. you won't be able to get liberals on it. you won't be able to get others on it. so you have to know how you deal with the middle. the house republicans and at this stage of the game even the senate republicans have no more playbook that tells them how to deal with the middle. bob dole

moments before the vote, he asked democrats to vote "prese "present." this would leave the onus squarely on the republicans to vote it up or down. chaos erupted in the house. as republican the republica thep realized what would happen. too many votes had been passed in favor of the republican budget. the republican leadership got autumn inform their members to switch from "yes" to "no" and in the entdz 119 republicans voted in favor and 120 against. crisis averted. that's how bad this plan was. and a balanced budget amendment that caps spending at 18% would essentially do exactly the same thing. this is a perfect example of political posturing. we voted down speaker boehner's plan last night for that very reason. his plan wasn't about finding a real solution, it was all about political posturing. if it became law, it would subject americans to a very scary republican study committee reality.

that he has that vote. it's a test vote and is he moving forward with it at this point. >> listen, as we continue on, i want to tell you senator harry reid is on the floor right now. we're going to listen in to him to see if he says anything and if he does indeed talk about coming to a vote later on this evening. so again, you say that it doesn't appear he has the votes. what happens if he doesn't get enough votes here? >> there's a lot of confusing kind of procedural procedures you have to go through in the senate especially. if he does not overcome this vote, then the legislation doesn't go anywhere. there are a few test votes you have to overcome that would be lining us up if it would pass this vote, there would be another vote monday morning as the schedule is told to me right now, and then it would be for final pass and, if you will on tuesday. but it has to first overcome this vote to go any further. right now, it does not look like he has the votes. just yesterday, 43 of the 47 republican senators ca

vote? >> whether or not you are a sucker for a walking baseline in any ad, i confess, voting for the paul ryan kill medicare budget is so politically potent, what you saw there is that vote being wielded against people who didn't even necessarily vote for it themselves but who might be sort of like the people who did vote for it. this kill medicare vote the republicans took this spring, this is what's known in politics as a humdinger, democrats think those votes are still going to be driving votes in november of next year. that is how democrats feel about the republicans paul ryan kill medicare budget. but the republican leadership in congress, looking at that same indicta, apparently looks at that kill medicare vote from this spring and thinks, we did not go far enough. the paul ryan kill medicare budget would have capped spending at below 20% of gdp. to get to cuts that dramatic, republicans did something as dramatic as killing medicare and a lot more besides. now republicans are saying t

that's not true. 60 votes, normal voting or simple majority 51 votes. that's the argument that's going on. a little flavor. it's always fun at 8:30 to see the senators in action, isn't it. >> laura: we have to, would. at least they have to, would. that's totally fine. bret, when you watch this play out, mcconnell is such a statesman and he is so gentrified and very refined he clearly is very annoyed at this moment. tempers are flaring. these two men are going to have sit down at a table together over the weekend or early next week and they have to figure this out. and they have been. and, yet, as far as i can tell and what ed henry has said is that the president himself has not been actively engaged as much as maybe we thought on the phone today with any of these individuals. go ahead, bret. >> bret: sorry to interrupt. remember, this is about the reid plan. they have now put aside the boehner plan that is kind of on ice. not dead but it's on ice. and they are not talking about senate majority leader reid's plan. now, there is a worry and kind -- the go

>> they're trying to keep poor people from votings, the minority from voting, the elderly from voting. we are not stupid. >> stephen: well, that's the difference between us, madam. these laws aren't designed to keep those democrats from voting. they're designed to keep the wrong people from voting. >> why do we have these campaigns saying, we have to get all the young people to vote? young people often don't know anything. let's stop saying everyone should vote. voting is important. >> if people cannot even feed and clothe themselves, should they be allowed to vote? [audience reacts] >> if you're not a property owner, sorry, but property owners have more of a vesting steak in the community than non-property owners. >> that's tea party nation founder judson phillips. he knows the founding fathers were property owners, and some of the descendants of that property just shouldn't vote. now, there have to be standards, folks. like the new law in texas that won't allow a student i.d. to be used for the purpose of voting but will allow concealed handgun licenses. if anything, this will expan

this is a 15-minute vote, followed by a series of two-minute votes. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: on this vote the yeas are 160 and the amendment is not agreed to -- the noes are the chair: the house will come to order, please. the house will be in order. members will please take their conversations off the floor and take their seats. the house will be in order. the chair would ask all present to rise for the purpose of a moment of silence. the chair asks that the house now observe a moment of silence in remembrance of our brave men and women in uniform who have given their lives in the service of our nation in iraq and afghanistan and their families and of all who serve in our armed forces and their families. the chair: without objection, two-minute voting will continue. the

>> because of the way the votes are counted. 2/3 vote to raise taxes, a 50% vote to make cuts in medicarecial security, other kinds of programs. uneven. i'm from california. i was lieutenant governor in california. i can tell you what a 2/3 vote did to the state of california. it's practically ruined the state's ability to deal with the multitude of issues, education, transportation, water, health care. 2/3 vote, you can't get it. you shift democracy from majority rule to minority rule. it simply was a disaster in california. why doesn't the speaker negotiate with democrats or does it enjoy running head-first into a brick wall? >> he is afraid of his leadership. i would lose a majority of his caucus and leadership. i know from my experience in california and when i was deputy secretary of the department of interior, you could put together a coalition from across the aisles. he is concerned about continuing as speaker. there are folks that have the long knives out for him. >> who is going after him? who has their eyes on his back? >> we all know mr. cantor is out there looking to become ne

. >> the united states senate voting now. the goal, to kill the house republican plan that passed just hours ago. this debate will continue throughout the week about getting deficit cuts. we'll continue live coverage throughout the weekend, including "in the arena, " which begins right now. >> good evening, i'm tom foreman. and washington in a hell for leather race against the clock. the republican deadline has cracked open. house speaker john boehner, after days of furiously urging members to line up behind him, has finally pass the debt reduction plan. as you saw a moment ago, the senate now in the process of killing it by effectively tabling it, because democrats are in charge over there. you heard harry reid speak moments ago, a big thumbs down over there, and then -- then -- we will move on. but the number of votes on either side really doesn't matter so much as this number. the number of days and hours now left until the money runs out. this is what we've been warning about for weeks and weeks. still, the vote today was

in the senate it's always the case you need 60 votes. always been the case you need 60 votes. this is the majority leader of the united states senate. for him to suggest that a matter of this magnitude in a body that requires offense votes for almost everything is going to be done with 51 votes makes no sense at all. in. >> mr. president. >> the objection is heard. the majority leader. >> first of all, it's unconscionable that republicans would filibuster legislation and put a default on national obligations. frankly it's unprecedented. since 1962 congress has raised the debt limit 74 times including 18 times under president reagan and there was never a threat of a filibuster and it was always by majority vote. >> mr. president. >> the republican leader. >> mr. president, i might say i actually cut short a conversation with the vice president to come out here for this important vote on a life kw quorum. i would like to get back to network solve this problem. it would be a good idea for the majority to die to allow the vote on the proposal they say they are in favor of. therefo

can vote yes or no. i voted yes for cut, cap and balance and no for the boehner bill today. >> nice to see you. speak boehner was not able to herd all the republicans in the house. despite the rogue 22 the speaker's bill did pass the house and last night's aborted vote followed by last minute revisions made some members of the house flip flop or at least that is what critics are saying. one congressman who divided to vote yes is joining us today. you are running for the senate to replace senator jon kyl in arizona and the democrats have come out and tagged you a flip flopper. the ink and the even try on your vote. >> the bill changed. myself and several other conservatives went to the speaker and others and said we would like to have the balanced budget amendment part of the bill. it wasn't before. we stood for cut, cap and balance. the boehner bill had cut and cap but it didn't have the balance and they were able to add that and therefore it got my vote. i don't begrudge those who voted against it. >> g

vote against us.tant for the republicans here to lay down their marker. and then they can say, we tried to stop default. >> why haven't the democrats, including the president, actually put some actual proposal with numbers on the table that could be considered or scored by the congressional budget office. >> first of all, mr. reid did that, and we know what the actual score is, because the cbo came back and said -- >> why didn't the president do it? >> well, the president of the united states with the vice president put $2.5 trillion in cuts -- >> but he didn't put any piece of paper out there. he just talked about it. >> because it was a point of negotiations between the two parties. but, wolf, we can't to figure out ways for mr. boehner to save face. he's trying to save face right now because of the failure and tin effectual whipping they did last night. this approach that he's taken is a -- it's a very narrowly partisan approach that will not get us to monday or tuesday to raise the debt ceiling. w

and some democratic votes. not going to be able to -- nothing will pass the senate and come to the house and get all republican votes that i see. i may be wrong, but i don't see it because right now if they get this boehner plan out, it's going to need two or three votes. >> john, the biggest hold -- >> go ahead. no, you go ahead. >> the biggest holdup and you hit the nail on nail on the hea asking our mutual friend. it's all political. the president's desire to not have the debate before the election. the polls are out. he cannot continue to have this conversation. people are reminded of the massive debt he's run up. that's what's hold thg thing up. if we could extend this, it would be under a year. if the president would do that, we could be done by the end of the week. >> we are going to take a quick break. the house speaker meeting with top deputies to try to pull off a vote to raise the debt ceiling and cut spending. when we come back, we'll check on the reporters. stay with us. hey, the new guy is loaded

a vote. >> well, there's that. the reason to have this vote right at 1:00 -- that's the earliest he could have the vote when he filed the bill. and the reason to do that is -- the reason to do -- and it looks like we're getting some news coming in here, so i just want to check this. so forgive me here. and it looks like he's going to the -- it's my understanding that majority reid is going to the floor now. and everything that we're hearing is that what we're going to hear, about a delay in the vote. just talked to somebody else at some point, possibly doing that. so we should keep an eye on the u.s. senate here that he is going to be going to the floor. the reason for the 1:00, that's the fastest way, and everything's about this count. everything is about giving the house as much time as they can before midnight august 2nd to get this vote through. because, remember, as much of a nail biter as this is, putting together this humpty dumpty that they're going to have to put together to get this thing passed through t

the senate voted it down last night on a bipartisan vote.nterestingly, that vote included six republicans who voted against it along with the senate democrats because they believed it was not conservative enough for them in the upper chamber. so all eyes are on senate majority leader harry reid and mitch mcconnell. they were in negotiations yesterday. >> but felicia, if it did go through in phases, where you would have to have the discussion again of raising the debt ceiling again, if the republicans would like that, do they stand to gain by bringing up that discussion as we move into the 2012 election period? >> that's the main question, whether you have a short term debt ceiling raise or a long-term one. the short term one would allow republicans to revisit this next year, and the plus point for them on that side of things is it allows them to continue their message of pushing forward for a balanced budget amendment and allows them to continue their focus on reducing the deficit, which has been a main focal point since last year's election

>> guest: a lot of people complain that americans or not enough americans vote or people aren't voting or whatever, but i think that one of the reasons people aren't voting is because we actually feel that our vote is less influential than the multinational corporations dollar, and i believe that that's true. i believe that we live here, we vote here, but we are not really given a real choice, and we haven't really been able to identify ourselves and to separate ourselves from the needs of corporations, big business and also big government as it deals with big business. >> host: walter mosley is with us for an half an hour and we will mixing your calls, e-mail messages and tweets and look forward to them. here's more of the diagnosis of the state we are in as he sees it. most of us in modern-day america are sick, we suffer deep emotional displacement from the line is we are told and the subsequent lies we tell ourselves. i'm fine, doing well, part of a healthy space policy. i'm helping my children become whole, helping individuals, none or at least little of this is true. so what does

, now with democrats having voted for it, you can get democratic votes in the house. and boehner still needs to get a majority of the conference but there is more flexibility there. >> so he's going to lose more there because you can pick up democrats because of the changed bill? >> yes. there are a lot of republicans and i think a lot of the reason speaker boehner was able to get people to support this bill that didn't want to support sit because they understand the economy really tanks because of a default and republicans take the brunt that have, goitsing to be tougher in 2012. number two, obama will ont economy, soley. and three, they might lose their leverage. my theory is that i know people think after august 2 their leverage increases because then everybody sort of got to go and say fine, what do you want to get out of this hole. i think at that point they go look. we're going to go into a corner. everybody thinks they're winning and nobody is. >> greta: and this discussion should be political. i mean should be about the substance, i agree. but people do put --

not voting until the republicans were sure they had enough votes.thy stood right next to them throughout the entire vote. you see how close this was. all of them were no votes. latham was the final g.o.p. no vote casting his b

we took a vote may 31. in fact, we took a vote on raising the debt limit. the vote was based upon a resolution introduced in this house by the chairman of the ways and means committee. and he said when he introduced the piece of legislation on this floor that he hoped it would fail. he said, you are not going to get enough votes to get this done, so he set out to undermine his own resolution. now j.f.k. said, i do not shrink from this responsibility, i welcome it. i welcome my responsibility today, what i have to do. i'm going to have a pleasure to vote no. because i know what's happened since may 31, a day of infamy. so i'll make it known that the bill couldn't pass so we'll release the american people to understand that. the american people don't want us to tell them what they need or what they want. they should tell us what they need and what they want. we think we know and most of the time we don't know on either side of the aisle. they're choosing to extend the state of economic and political turmoil another six months in this bill, we want to go throu

, now with democrats having voted for it, you can get democratic votes in the house. still needs to get a majority of the conference but there is more flexibility there. >> so he's going to lose more there because you can pick up democrats because of the changed bill? >> yes. there are a lot of republicans and i think a lot of the reason speaker boehner was able to get people to support this bill that didn't want to support sit because they understand the economy really tanks because of a default and republicans take the brunt that have, goitsing to be tougher in 2012. number two, obama will ont economy, soley. and three, they might lose their leverage. my theory is that i know people think after august 2 their leverage increases because then everybody sort of got to go and say fine, what do you want to get out of this hole. i think at that point they go look. we're going to go into a corner. everybody thinks they're winning and nobody is. >> greta: and this discussion should be political. i mean should be about the substance, i agree. but people do put -- politics do

thoughts voting that all of. representations of various kinds anough that the number of participants could have shaped change the outcome of the vote and this day i do not overlap with any of you got more examples instead only isn't it they went to the district over the process went to the district attorney in the district attorney said because the state of wisconsin itself can't tell us how many actual registered voters they are because their systems are it is difficult for us to them prosecute the state of colorado if they had any evidence of an actual crime they would then not necessarily the case the state of colorado they found that there was a concentrated effort for illegal immigrants to participate and the number of people who voted in the two thousand and ten election or the number of non eligible illegal immigrants was greater than the margin of victory in the united states serially in south carolina just now just one hundred seventy eight thousand voters off the polls by the sport of writing well one h

we have enough votes to pass. 218 votes. they are passed the boehner extreme plan and in all fairness to mr. boehner pb this was the hijacked plan he was forced to, not one democrat, not one, has voted for this. this is now passed through the house. it will go forward. you know, bob, when i was a little boy i used to love tea and now i drink coffee. you are know why i gave up tea? one day i put the tea bag in and it burst and i didn't like all of the tea leaves all over the hot water. i think the tea bag just burst tonight on the american people. it is nasty when it is out of the bag. they are out of the bag new. because everybody has to look at this and say, what are you talking about. >> yeah, i think that's right, reverend. look, they made a deal with the devil in 2009. now they are living with that. think think when they go into next yar's election, ed rendell is right. they 8 look at this and even despite the cold conditions, people are going to say, these folks can't govern. the truth is, if you hate the government, yo

i hope we get the votes through. at the end of the day, what we've got to do is get over august 2nd, make sure we don't do this again and give some certainty to the markets and we got to have a comprehensive and i think bipartisan plan. it can't be a democrat or republican plan only. i look around this town, the gang of six plan is the only plan in this city that has a third of the senate saying let's go forward with that framework. i hope at the end of the day that gets a vote. a few months from now with whatever we get through gets us towards a solution. august 2nd will be a fix. we have to get a solution. >> air pressure key member of that so-called gang of six. three democratic senators, three republican senators. you guys came up with a plan that had a lot of support in the united states senate. this seems to be one of the major stumbling blocks right now if not the major stumbling block. this proposal that the republicans and the house want, the speaker wants for another vote next year, six months or so from no

count, anyone can vote against a debt ceiling increase, as long as just enough vote to pass it.rbin on the show saying when he and barack obama voted against the debt ceiling increase as senators they knew there were enough votes to pass it. none of them were going to vote to kill the debt ceiling increase. we will see what we end up with, if we get that far. thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> on the last word tomorrow night at 8 p.m. eastern, bill maher, host of hbo's "realtime" on his reaction to the president

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we're willing to vote right now. 60 votes. 60 votes we're not willing to take because this is a filibuster. this should not be filibustered. and so, mr. president, we are not going to agree to the six-month proposal because, as i indicated in my prepared remarks, that would mean that we would be back in this mess in a matter of weeks. we want to be fully engaged. i repeat to the people that supposedly sent me this letter, what do you want? what do i say to my caucus because my republican colleagues haven't come up with any alternative? it would be easy to do. you can amend my legislation. in theeantime, that won't happen. we're going to proceed forward and do the very best we can to overcome this filibuster. mr. mcconnell: mr. president? the presiding officer: the republican leader. mr. mcconnell: i'll just wrap up my commends by pointing out again comments from my good friend the majority leader about the nature of the senate. he said in the senate it's always been the case you need 60 votes. always been the case y need 60 votes. we all know that. it's a very -- it's widely kno in the cou

vote to the 1:00 p.m. vote.public message is to give everybody a little more time, but from what i've been hearing, senator reid was not happy with what went on yesterday and a number of other senators not happy. and you're hearing it from the house progressive caucusful so clearly they are trying to make it clear that they are relevant and they there are certain things that are important to democrats. but -- one thing i would say. you say nobody would want to touch medicare or social security. that's not true. plenty in your party who have wanted to get their hands on medicare and social security for a long time and that is largely what democrats are very concerned about in terms of what that actually means for real people in the day to day when we start cutting these things. >> alex, very interesting the change of events. 48 hours ago, 72 hours ago, it was about speaker boehner being in the hot seat. now senator reid is in the hot seat, and the players have changed. all of a sudden, mitch mcconnell, fairly qui

once voting starts the bill will need 216 votes to pass the house. after that it will head directly to the u.s. senate where majority leader harry reid is vowing to defeat it. joining me with their take are south carolina congressman tim scott who decided to vote against the bill and texas congressman michael burgess a member of the tea party caucus. guys, welcome to the program. >> thanks very much. >> congressman burgess, from what i understood you were kind of vascillating today? >> yesterday i was undecided yesterday and possibly even leaning a little bit toward the negative side. i was up all night with the morning of the legislation and historical documents related to prior shutdowns and debt limit excursions. on tuesday none of us knows what is delegate to happen. most of us feels that timothy geithner has put an arbitrary deadline throughout. we seed the narrative. look what he did with social security and veterans threats injuries the fact of the matter remains if we don't defeat this president we don't get to take this healthcare bill off t

were needed to pass the bill, no democrats voted for it and 22 republicans voted against it. boehner was forced to load down the bill with things like a constitutional amendment to balance the budget that have created even stronger opposition in the senate where harry reid already had 53 committed votes against it. this is the kind of speech that a speaker gives when he knows his legislation is going nowhere. >> i stuck my neck out a mile to try to get an agreement with the president of the united states, in order to try to come to an agreement to avert us being where we are. but a lot of people in this town can never say yes. this house has acted and it is time for the administration and time for our colleagues across the aisle, put something on the table! tell us where you are! >> when you are actually legislating realistically instead of symbolically, the speech you give at that point is something along the lines of the senate must take action on this bill and the president must sign it. you don't beg the other side to -- >> put something on the table! tell us where you ar

votes. that means the vote could be happening at any second and we are right here waiting and you will get it first if you stay right here on fox news. joining us is senator john mccain who has been taking on conservatives reluctant to raise the national debt ceiling. good evening, sir. and we are getting so much information coming out of the house tonight. i don't know how much to believe and how much not. the latest report from one of my colleagues is that congressman who is opposed to the boehner bill says i think they will call the vote tonight and it it will pass. that sounds at least like he is saying that boehner has the votes but this seems like view dvoodoo at this point. >> i think he probably does. it is unfortunate in my view that he had such difficulty. as you know there are very strong feelings and members who were elected simply on the single issue of cutting spending and getting our mortgaging of our children and our grandchildren's future off of our backs and so obviously th