so this memo that "the new york times" made public is from a lawyer named william olson. we haven't heard a lot about him in the past. he was among the fringe right-wing attorneys who were giving trump advice and he discloses that he and donald trump spoke on christmas day and then in this memo tells donald trump that the lawyers trump had around him in the administration, in the justice department, in the white house counsel's office, those people were not serving his interests well enough. some of the recommendations olson made at that time, this was december 28, 2020, were -- he says this is what must be done. you should replace the white house counsel. he then tells trump that he should order the justice department to file a lawsuit that would challenge the election result, what voters had decided for the presidency. and then he says if trump can't get that through, he should fire the doj leadership, get other people in place to help him. and then he tells trump when we are also working on what else you can do, we can look into other powers of the presidency, and he w

this lawyer, william olson in this memo, he insults the justice department and the white house counsel's office. he says that they are shameful dismissive of the president personally, and then he says to trump, here is what must be done. you should replace the white house counsel. you should order the justice department to file a lawsuit. if the leaders there don't want to do that, get rid of them, and then we can work on what else you can do when you have different people in place using the powers of the presidency. that's where he says that line, the media will call this martial law, but that is fake news, and of course trump does follow some of these directions and just a few days later is talking about getting rid of the attorney general and putting a new person in place to do just these things william olson was talking about. >> it's interesting he jumps to the idea that the media may call it marshal law before the media had a chance to look at it and analyze it. it's a little bit telling i would say. thank you for your reporting as always. i appreciate it. >> let's talk more about

so william olson is the lawyer here, he is writing a memo the "new york times" has posted it publicly, and in it he says -- he and trump spoke on christmas day, he is following up and says, you know, i want to walk through what my suggestions are again to tell you that i know you too donald trump will be following up on as well. he says that the lawyers around trump are not serving him well as president, and that as president, trump should really take control and give some orders to make sure that he can win the election. that includes olson is insulting the justice department at one point, he says white house counsel's office were being shameful and dismissive toward him as president, and then he says to trump, here is what hub done, you should replace the white house counsel, tells trump he should ordered justice department to file a lawsuit challenging the election result, or if not done, trump should get rid of that leadership over there. and then he describes potentially working on other thing that the presidency could do using its powers. and that is when olson writes the media

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, what he may have been planning in late 2020 after the election leading up to january 6th, so william olsons the lawyer here, writing a memo "the new york times" has posted it publicly, in it he said that he and trump spoke on christmas day. he's following up, said, i want to walk through what my suggestions are again, to tell you, i know you too donald trump will be following up as well, he said that the lawyers around trump aren't serving him well as president and as president trump should really take control and give some orders to make sure he can win the election, that includes olson is insulting the justice department at one point, he said white house counsel's office were being dismissive to him. you should replace the white house counsel, he tells trump that he order the department of justice should challenge the results. describe potentially working on other things that the presidency could do using its powers and that's when he writes the media will call this martial law but that's fake news. saying that to donald trump. after that, what we know from the record already that trump

the new york times is reporting that in december 2020 this conservative attorney, a guy named william olsong the former president encouraging him to overturn the election and also pushing, according to times, the former president took steps that he himself said would be viewed as martial law. can you believe this stuff? >> i just don't know where donald trump finds these lawyers who have such outrageously incorrect and illegal views, who acknowledged that it is martialized, yet, i'm going to encourage it and that flies in the face of the white house counsel, the attorney general, his own campaign lawyers, his own white house lawyers. i mean, everyone understood that after december 14th there was no more legal challenge. so, everything that occurred after december 14th was outside of any proper legal proceedings, and it was almost like, let's just find anybody we can who can come up with a more cockamamie theory to overturn the election, which is ultimately what his goal was. >> what's the big issue for you? >> a huge issue for me is a threat that donald trump is still posing to our democrac

this lawyer, william olson, he and trump spoke on christmas day and then olson memorialized what happenedid the lawyers around donald trump, the justice department, white house counsel's office were not serving him and something needed to be done, he needed to replace the people. and he said the media will call this martial law but that is fake news. >> we know the president did try to put in a new attorney general and it didn't work out that way. >>> let's bring in mark, a staff writer at the atlantic, with a brand new book out there called "thank you for your servitude". it is a must read. i'm just starting it, i haven't gotten through the whole thing yet but it's one you can't put down. first i want to get your reaction to president trump lashing out at secret service agents on the day of january 6th. maybe some of the most explosive information that the committee has unveiled up until this point. and it's interesting, despite their attempts to try and undermine the credibility of cassidy hutchinson, no one denies he was mad at the agents and wanted to go to the capitol. is there a way

, "the new york times" has revealed details about how a little known right-wing attorney named william olson urged trump to effectively declare martial law in december of 2020 as part of a sweeping attempt to overturn the election. the house january 6 committee will hold its final scheduled public hearing on thursday. the hearing will focus on donald trump's 187 minutes of inaction on january 6 when his supporters stormed the capitol after he gave a speech near the white house. democracy now! will stream the hearing live at 8:00 p.m. eastern at democracynow.org. in reled news, jury selection is expected to begin today in the trial of former trump advisor steve bannon for criminal contempt of congress. nearly 400. that is the number of law enforcement officials who rushed to robb elementary school and uvalde, texas, may 20 fourth after they got word of a mass shooting. a new report from the state -- texas state legislator cites egregiously poor decisions made by the officers more than an hour to engage the gunman who killed 19 fourth graders and their two teachers. investigators determined "l

you can now add another mysterious -- william j. olson, and attorney who now actually represents, the pillow guy, mike lindell, who also try to influence the former president to overturn the election and declare martial law. this is according to a new report in the new york times, which has not yet been independently verified by nbc news. the times reveals a christmas day 2020 phone call, between olson and trump, who is at his florida gulf resort at the time. according to the times, olson was quote, promoting several extreme ideas. which he later noted, quote, could be regarded as tantamount to declaring martial law, and another aspect quote, could even be, have comparisons with watergate. olson's ideas, also included tampering with the justice department, and firing the acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen. the select committee is reportedly aware of all since conduct with trump. we also now have a name for the guy who handled the list of fake trump elector certificates for michigan and wisconsin, to several republicans on capitol hill

from the new york times, the times obtained a memo that concerned a lawyer william j. olsondetailing outlandish strategies to hold on to power. this includes firing the active attorney general and the supreme court to reject state electors. wilson's memo reportedly also advocated for delay declaring with the media would call martial law. nbc news has not obtained the memo, and has not independently verified the reporting. it is just another example, though, of for president trump in contact with far right friend makers who wanted to turn america into an authoritarian society. these right wing extremists aren't just attacking our government, they are targeting school and community librarians. and yes, let me say that again, librarians. harassing them online, telling them groomers, pedophiles and acumen -- accusing them of promoting awoke agenda. librarians across the country are being fired or quitting their jobs. joining me now, carolyn foot, she is a former local like variant and the founder of freedom fighters. that is f r a d o m. free dame fighters. -- the author of the

so william oleson was the lawyer. and olson in a letter to trump three days later basically said the lawyers around donald trump was not serving him well, he as president could use his powers to take control of the election result. olson said the justice department and the white house counsel's office could potentially be replaced, and then he told trump what he could do in addition to replacing those people, he needed to order them to file a lawsuit that could challenge the election, what the voters wanted and what the voters decided in 2020. and then there would be other options that they could work onto try and use the powers of the presidency, and that's where olson drops this line. he says on what you can do the media will call this martial law, but that is fake news. and ultimately trump did follow up on some of these things and look into potentially replacing at least the attorney general of the united states with someone who would do his bidding. back to you. >> our thanks to kaitlyn collins and there were chilling mome

william olsen. the "times" reports this. "the involvement of a person like olson conspiracy theorists and my pillow chief executive mike lindell, underscores how a system that would normally insulate a president had broken down within weeks after the 2020 election. that left trump in direct contact with people who promoted conspiracy theories or questionable legal ideas, telling him not only what he wanted to hear, but also that they, not the public servants advising him, were the only ones he could trust." olson, who previously promoted a false conspiracy theory that vice president kamala harris was not born in the u.s. and would therefore be ineligible to be vice president, wrote a memo to trump outlining extreme plans to overturn president joe biden's victory. here are two shocking steps he advised the ex-president to take. "if the acting a.g. does not commit to exactly challenging the election in court, replace him with a senate confirmed doj official who will. there are several such persons, either allowing rosen to return to being deputy a.g. or to leave doj