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let's have a look at their strength that william schaffner is professor of preventative medicine at vanderbilt school of medicine joins us from city of nashville in the u.s. welcome professor watch what do you think should americans sit this weekend celebrations out. well i think they should go out and have fun but they should go out carefully rather than in a carefree fashion i think we need to wear our man asks social distancing and avoid large groups that run and that we just heard that bothers me a great deal it sounds like our last holiday memorial day weekend where many people went out in a very careless fashion and we had many many infections as a consequence we'll see what happens this year i'm really worried however i must say ok well as a number of us cases skyrockets the president has been tweeting let's take a look at what he said he said as a rising coronavirus cases because that testing is so massive and so good far bigger and better than any other country this is great news is that but even better news is that death and the death rate is down also younger people who get better m
let's have a look at their strength that william schaffner is professor of preventative medicine at vanderbilt school of medicine joins us from city of nashville in the u.s. welcome professor watch what do you think should americans sit this weekend celebrations out. well i think they should go out and have fun but they should go out carefully rather than in a carefree fashion i think we need to wear our man asks social distancing and avoid large groups that run and that we just heard that...
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dr william schaffner i still have so many more questions about this unfortunately we are out of time so hopefully we can bring you back soon to discuss this dr william schaffner with the vanderbilt university medical center thank you so much for your expert insight on this topic. and time now for a quick break but here because when we do return as some in the u.s. leadership are rushing to reopen schools and the economy there's no talk from our ability we take a deep dive on the issue coming when we come back and as we go to break here are the numbers that's close. to what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race. dramatic to follow only. i don't see how. very. you sit down and talk. the world. day. 3 got all that free money from the government. speculate. during the vietnam war. it was a secret war. and for years the american people did not know. how much it is a. country per capita. millions of unexploded bombs still lives in this small agricultural country. even today kids in laos full victims of decades ago. this is the u.s. making a
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dr william schaffner i guess i still have so many more questions about this unfortunately we are out of time so hopefully we can bring you back soon to discuss this dr william schaffner with the vanderbilt university medical center thank you so much for your expert insight on this topic. time now for a quick break but here because when we do return as some in the u.s. leadership are rushing to reopen schools and the economy there is no talk of liability we take a deep dive on the issue coming when we come back and as we go to break here are the numbers as close. global markets are mixed this week on surges in case of the coronavirus around the world how webre some were actually able to rebound on hopes of a possible vaccine for copa 19 let's start in russia where the mo x. is down for the week now the ruble weakened on the fall in oil prices as opec plans to ease cuts and allow for more production while cases of the virus continue to spike in the nation moving over to asian markets the shanghai composite it's down on the week with the worst weekly drop in 5 months now the index slid
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dr william schaffner i still have so many more questions about this unfortunately we are out of time so hopefully we can bring you back soon to discuss this dr william schaffner with the vanderbilt university medical center thank you so much for your expert insight on this topic. time now for a quick break but here because when we do return as some in the u.s. leadership are rushing to reopen schools and the economy there is no talk from our ability we take a deep dive on the issue coming when we come back and as we go to break here are the numbers that's close. to. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics sport this list i'm sure i'll see you then. is anyone safe in the air a wrong way conservatives are the thought form then shadow better those with the easy ones now the mob is turning on its own long face demands conformity and does not bring dissent is freedom of speech now only for the. world all day traders now that's time. yes got all that free money from the government as a lot of people speculate. during the vietnam
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dr william schaffner i still have so many more questions about this unfortunately we are out of time so hopefully we can bring you back soon to discuss this dr william schaffner with the vanderbilt university medical center thank you so much for your expert insight on this topic. time now for a quick break but here because when we do return as some in the u.s. leadership are rushing to reopen schools and the economy there is no talk from our ability we take a deep dive on the issue coming when we come back and as we go to break here are the numbers as close. as you'll media reflection of reality. in the world transformed. what will make you feel safe. isolation community. are you going the right way or are you being so. direct. was his faith. in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the depths. maybe in the shallows. the world all day traders now that stock trading is free and got all that free money from the government there's a lot of people speculating. during the vietnam war u.s. forces neighboring laos it was a secret war. and for years the american people did n
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dr william schaffner i still have so many more questions about this unfortunately we are out of time so hopefully we can bring you back soon to discuss this dr william schaffner with the vanderbilt university medical center thank you so much for your expert insight on this topic. my pleasure. and time now for a quick break but hang here because when we do return as some and u.s. leadership are rushing to reopen schools and the economy this is talk of liability we take a deep dive on the issue coming when we come back and as we go to break here are the numbers as close. to. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to air force base in alaska where is that to say come on i'll show you what's the reason for any type of enhanced u.s. military presence in this area rush up. what is it suddenly about the south china sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have nuclear weapons capabilities there is reason for co
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dr william schaffner i guess i still have so many more questions about this unfortunately we are out of time so hopefully we can bring you back soon to discuss this dr william schaffner with the vanderbilt university medical center thank you so much for your expert insight on this topic. my pleasure. and time now for a quick break but here because when we do return as some in the u.s. leadership are rushing to reopen schools and the economy there is no talk from our ability we take a deep dive on the issue coming when we come back and as we go to break here are the numbers that's close. or so much going on in the world don't you think when's the last time you had a real bird's eye view. of the news or and just hours of bickering give me 30 minutes i'll take you off the low. why in the world if you think this is a positive idea for the united states. well i think you'll play you exactly the role that a good journalist ought to know why it had to happen at this exact moment there's already so much instability within the middle east is this is probably just one of the many voices on tel
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william schaffner. doctor, it is good to have you. your concern about the messaging of this reported "we need to live with it" motto that the white house may start pushing. >> well, if we want to live with it, i'm afraid we're die with it also, because that will cause many deaths. we still don't have a national program, as you have already said. it's something that the countries that were successful in suppressing covid did. they had a national program coherently described and clearly communicated to the population. they indeed brought everyone together in their countries to follow the national plan. that's what we desperately need. >> we don't need it though, doctor. we don't need it. because 99% of the cases are harmless and the world is a looking at us with envy because we've handled it much better. we've done more testing than anybody else and our death rate is lower than all the other places. that's what the white house says. >> well, i'm wincing, as you can see. obviously, it's not harmless, because it's harmful. we can see that
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a coordinated consistent national plan it's a great failure thanks for joining us professor william schaffner from the vanderbilt university school of medicine. well take a look now at some of the other stories making news around the world starting out geria weather remains of 24 resistance fighters have been welcomed home in a solemn military ceremony for the men were killed in the 19th century while fighting against french colonial rule their skulls have been kept in a french museum. british prime minister bars johnson has set out a list of 59 countries from which travelers can enter england starting on the 10th of july without having to go into quarantine countries like the us sweden and brazil are not on the list. france has a new prime minister sharon caustics there's a center right now man who was sacked heading up the country's reopening strategy after the coronavirus lock down his appointment follows the resignation of his predecessor eduardo felipe and his government. is now caught in istanbul has sentenced a former leader of rights group amnesty international to 6 years in prison th
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william schaffner. good to have you as always, doc. >> hi, chris. good to be with you. >> practical effect of the mixed messaging? the experts saying, go slow. wear the mask. socially distance. wash your hands. don't reopen if you're not right back up. if you're doing it wrong. and trump saying, that's all politics. open up ready or not. we got to get back. we're on top of it now. what's the net effect? >> well, the net effect is confusion of course and people in their confusion really don't know what to do. and we have this crazy quilt of recommendations and ordinances and other circumstances around the country so that it is so different. we really need national authority, good modeling from the top, and everybody kind of doing the same thing. there's too much virus out there. it is spreading in essentially every state. some more than others. but we haven't controlled this at all. the virus is still ahead of us and we're rushing to catch up. as you know, i think we squandered the time where we were locked up. we should have done much more and prepa
william schaffner. good to have you as always, doc. >> hi, chris. good to be with you. >> practical effect of the mixed messaging? the experts saying, go slow. wear the mask. socially distance. wash your hands. don't reopen if you're not right back up. if you're doing it wrong. and trump saying, that's all politics. open up ready or not. we got to get back. we're on top of it now. what's the net effect? >> well, the net effect is confusion of course and people in their...
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william schaffner. i don't know about you, i'm a big baseball fan. i'm an even bigger football fan. i knew this was going to happen, doc. you get people in any proximity, the pandemic is going to manifest itself. are you surprised by any of this? >> chris, i'm surprised that the yankees game was cancelled tonts tonight, but it was canceled for good reason, obviously. covid got into the opposition, and any time people gather together in any kind of circumstance, whether it's a baseball circumstance or religious circumstance, for example, or a neighborhood bbq, statistically speaking, covid is attending that event with someone. stealthily, because they have no symptoms, but the covid virus is spreading. and that's the sort of circumstance we're in today. the virus is still ahead of us over most of the united states. we're still chasing afterwards. and open up quickly, that's cart before the horse. you know, if we could get control of this virus and then we could open up carefully. and that would assure the restoration of our economic life. this covid virus has got to be dealt with fir
william schaffner. i don't know about you, i'm a big baseball fan. i'm an even bigger football fan. i knew this was going to happen, doc. you get people in any proximity, the pandemic is going to manifest itself. are you surprised by any of this? >> chris, i'm surprised that the yankees game was cancelled tonts tonight, but it was canceled for good reason, obviously. covid got into the opposition, and any time people gather together in any kind of circumstance, whether it's a baseball...
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william schaffner. he's a professor at vanderbilt medical center. bill gates said during a town hall any test results taking longer than 24 hours are, his quote, basically uses. >> it's still very different, but the utility of those tests, their usefulness, is still very much in question. we still have a long way to go with testing. of course, those turnaround times really do have to improve in order to make the results of the test as useful as we would like. the u.s. is conducting less than 1 million tests per day. does this heighten your concern about safe reopening? >> we sure do want the children back in school. it will be opening up couldle in a any was anyone who's sick, we would like to know the answer to that very, very quickly, so that public health can go in, do the contact tracing, and decisions can be made about whether the schools ought to change what it is that they're doing. should they close down one particular classroom, or do a number of other things. so we need the information as quickly as possible. >> do you think another shutdo
william schaffner. he's a professor at vanderbilt medical center. bill gates said during a town hall any test results taking longer than 24 hours are, his quote, basically uses. >> it's still very different, but the utility of those tests, their usefulness, is still very much in question. we still have a long way to go with testing. of course, those turnaround times really do have to improve in order to make the results of the test as useful as we would like. the u.s. is conducting less...
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william schaffner. the white house insists that the president is not at any risk. but, as you know, you've had the vice president's press secretary, secret service agents, now the national security adviser all testing positive. we all obviously wish for the best for them. but how concerned should the white house be when it comes to president trump getting infected possibly? >> it's obvious that the white house team ought to be very alert to this and doing everything they can to protect the president and the vice president. we would want that. but there is some risk obviously. the virus can reach right up into the white house. it infected the british prime minister, the president of brazil. so, elevated status is no barrier to this virus. this is an equal opportunity virus. >> so president trump insists that the u.s. tests too much. he often complains that more testing makes him look bad. i interviewed the man in charge of testing, admiral giroir. take a listen to what he said to me yesterday. >> we are never going to be happy with testing until we get turnaround ti
william schaffner. the white house insists that the president is not at any risk. but, as you know, you've had the vice president's press secretary, secret service agents, now the national security adviser all testing positive. we all obviously wish for the best for them. but how concerned should the white house be when it comes to president trump getting infected possibly? >> it's obvious that the white house team ought to be very alert to this and doing everything they can to protect...
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william schaffner. thank you, doctor, for all you do and for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> now, we all witnessed a shift in messaging from president trump at his first coronavirus task force briefing in 90 days. he said the pandemic will probably get worse before it gets better and he motted wearing mask, social distancing, washing hands and appeal to young people to stay out of bars. it is a very different message compared to what he was saying days ago but a welcomed change. so what impact might the president's words potentially have on the current surge in cases in this country? >> well the change certainly the welcomed. we need national guidance. we need a national policy. now i wonder whether this will be sustained and whether there will be really forceful followups. for example, a call for everyone leaving their front door tomorrow morning to be masked. and, again, to reinforce social distancing. at least i didn't hear the statement that people should stay out of group activities, bars, yes. but
william schaffner. thank you, doctor, for all you do and for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> now, we all witnessed a shift in messaging from president trump at his first coronavirus task force briefing in 90 days. he said the pandemic will probably get worse before it gets better and he motted wearing mask, social distancing, washing hands and appeal to young people to stay out of bars. it is a very different message compared to what he was saying days ago but a welcomed change. so...
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william schaffner at vanderbilt medical center. it's great to see you again.t to ask you about this big announcement first that the government and drug maker pfizer have reached a deal to produce 100 million doses of a covid-19 vaccine once it's approved, of course. how big of a deal is this and how unusual is this? >> it is very unusual, kate, but you and i and every other taxpayer in this country are laying some bets. we're helping manufacturers in advance start to manufacture vaccines such that when the clinical trial is finished and we see that the vaccine works, we hope, then we'll already have a stock pile of vaccine in the warehouse ready to go. so, we're betting on a number of different horses simultaneously. we hope they all come in because we need as much vaccine as possible. if the vaccine doesn't work, we'll just have to trash the vaccine, and we've lost only money. but this is unusual. we're doing things simultaneously that we used to do in sequence. that's helping us get there as quickly as possible. >> yeah, that's how we're cutting down on time
william schaffner at vanderbilt medical center. it's great to see you again.t to ask you about this big announcement first that the government and drug maker pfizer have reached a deal to produce 100 million doses of a covid-19 vaccine once it's approved, of course. how big of a deal is this and how unusual is this? >> it is very unusual, kate, but you and i and every other taxpayer in this country are laying some bets. we're helping manufacturers in advance start to manufacture vaccines...
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william schaffner, be well and thank you, doc. >>> let's take another beat on what happened in the mlb and the nfl by the way, but the florida marlins, players and coaches on that team coming down with the virus. why? you heard the doctor. you know it by now too, right? >> i mean, if you have people around a lot, in bigger numbers, what's going to happen? >> my point is, isn't this what school's going to look like? sports journalism legend bob costas with what this means for the mlb, the nfl, this breaking news out of the league. i have the perfect guest in the perfect kitchen next. ♪ ♪ thinking about your fi...so are we... prudential helps 25 million people with their financial needs. with over 90 years' of investment experience, our thousands of financial professionals can help. go to prudential.com or talk to an advisor. it's just that it's... lavender, yes it is. old spice, it's for men. but i like the smell of it. [music playing] and t-mobile doesn't just have a bigger network, but a better one than ever before, with scam protection built into its core. introducing, scamshield, fr
william schaffner, be well and thank you, doc. >>> let's take another beat on what happened in the mlb and the nfl by the way, but the florida marlins, players and coaches on that team coming down with the virus. why? you heard the doctor. you know it by now too, right? >> i mean, if you have people around a lot, in bigger numbers, what's going to happen? >> my point is, isn't this what school's going to look like? sports journalism legend bob costas with what this means...
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william schaffner. welcome back to "prime time." the good news is the rules haven't changed. now, look, we did get a little sideways with masks early on. don't wear a mask. you wind up touching your face, you'll make yourself sick. don't wear a mask. they're in short supply. got to save them for the essential workers, the first responders. but now we have more masks. we've learned more. we've realized about the strong parts of contiguous us in here. and now the mask works in combination with other things. wash your hands. stay the heck away from me, if you can, and if you can't, wear a mask. it still works, right? >> absolutely, chris, it still works. and something you said triggered a thought. think of this, we're about to celebrate independence day. i'd actually like to rename it for this year interdependence day. >> strong, schaffner. strong. >> and emphasize the dependance part. you know, we need to do this together. we need each other. e pluribus unum. out of many, one. you know, the 13 colonies didn't go off each on their own toot. despite their differences they came to
william schaffner. welcome back to "prime time." the good news is the rules haven't changed. now, look, we did get a little sideways with masks early on. don't wear a mask. you wind up touching your face, you'll make yourself sick. don't wear a mask. they're in short supply. got to save them for the essential workers, the first responders. but now we have more masks. we've learned more. we've realized about the strong parts of contiguous us in here. and now the mask works in...
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william schaffner, director of infectious diseases. very good to see you. ask you about the warning -- the new warnings we're hearing from dr. fauci saying that now some states should shut down again with the cases that they are seeing and dr birx saying something similar that some states should go back to phase one once again. how did the united states get to this point of needing to go back to the beginning? what went wrong? >> well, kate, good to be with you, and the virus is out there, as you have said. it is spreading widely and it's as though our shutdown real didn't happen. what went wrong is that perhaps we should down not long enough. that's number one, but then the population was not educated that once we opened up we really had to open up carefully. it was really going to be a new normal, masks were going tonight norm. six foot distancing, avoiding large groups, including religious services, and any gathering more than ten people. the people didn't really realize that. so they open up in a carefree fashion rather than a careful fashion. and then
william schaffner, director of infectious diseases. very good to see you. ask you about the warning -- the new warnings we're hearing from dr. fauci saying that now some states should shut down again with the cases that they are seeing and dr birx saying something similar that some states should go back to phase one once again. how did the united states get to this point of needing to go back to the beginning? what went wrong? >> well, kate, good to be with you, and the virus is out...
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william schaffner, a former official with the cdc.etty scary when you have the cdc itself saying dysfunctional mess. the white house in the meantime, we know betsy devos, education secretary and the president himself saying we've got to open schools, we've got open schools, and yet here we are. we're not even going to hear the cdc testify about it. >> yeah, it does sound a little bit dysfunctional, doesn't it. fortunately at the local level i think school boards are working with their state and local health departments. they're getting consultation from their academic medical centers. i know some of my pediatric infectious disease colleagues are helping in nashville. everybody's working their way through. but it sure would be great if we had clear guidance from the cdc. that would help everybody obviously. and not to have dr. fauci testify, that doesn't seem at all appropriate. >> so, you know, the guideline now delayed until the end of the month. at that point, you're in it. you've got school districts that now are going online for t
william schaffner, a former official with the cdc.etty scary when you have the cdc itself saying dysfunctional mess. the white house in the meantime, we know betsy devos, education secretary and the president himself saying we've got to open schools, we've got open schools, and yet here we are. we're not even going to hear the cdc testify about it. >> yeah, it does sound a little bit dysfunctional, doesn't it. fortunately at the local level i think school boards are working with their...
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william schaffner. dr. schaffner, let's put this race for a vaccine into perspective. we all like seeing good news when it comes to this vaccine. something to hold on to. but how cautious do we need to be about a timeline? >> good to be with you. we should also be a little bit cautious. excited about early developments, but it is a long road to develop a vaccine and things could go off the rails. perhaps the vaccine simply won't work very effectively. we'll just have to see. let's temper our enthusiasm but keep our hope up. >> dr. anthony fauci reemphasized this week he remains skeptical that a vaccine could be available by the end of the year. other health experts are warning the u.s. needs a plan b as cases surge across the country. people are becoming used to this idea after miracle treatment around the corner but what would a plan b look like? >> well, there are two kinds of plan bs. one is continue prevention. for that we all have to wear our masks, social distancing, avoiding large groups. that could go on quite a long while. that's absolutely fundamental. the ot
william schaffner. dr. schaffner, let's put this race for a vaccine into perspective. we all like seeing good news when it comes to this vaccine. something to hold on to. but how cautious do we need to be about a timeline? >> good to be with you. we should also be a little bit cautious. excited about early developments, but it is a long road to develop a vaccine and things could go off the rails. perhaps the vaccine simply won't work very effectively. we'll just have to see. let's temper...
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william schaffner from vanderbilt university medical center. dr. schaffner, let me start with you.ou worked for the cdc. the president says he knows better than the cdc. he's threatening them with this meeting, says the guidelines are too tough and they're going to come up with new ones. yesterday he said he knows better than dr. fauci. he's overruling science at every turn. how dangerous is this at this point? >> oh, erin, it's very sad and it is dangerous. you know, this country has been led in the past through epidemics and when there's threat of new infection such as ebola and zika and the cdc has done an absolutely stellar job. it has the reputation of being the finest such agency in the world by far. and it has been pushed aside and down by the political leadership in washington. that's very sad. and there's terrific confusion out there because the cdc is trying very hard to get a solid public health message out, and there's a black editorial pen coming from the white house that interrupts that message and changes it, often making it much milder, less direct and less useful.
william schaffner from vanderbilt university medical center. dr. schaffner, let me start with you.ou worked for the cdc. the president says he knows better than the cdc. he's threatening them with this meeting, says the guidelines are too tough and they're going to come up with new ones. yesterday he said he knows better than dr. fauci. he's overruling science at every turn. how dangerous is this at this point? >> oh, erin, it's very sad and it is dangerous. you know, this country has...