joining us now is california democratic congresswoman sow zoe lofgren.to get your response to what's happening on the impeachment front. you have republican colleagues starting to try to impeach president biden, while there's also this separate effort to expunge both of former president trump's impeachments. what do you make of all of this? it's a tremendous waste of time. lauren boebert's impeachment resolution is nonsense. the constitution says you can impeach a president for treason, bribery, or high crimes and misdemeanors. nothing is even alleged in her resolution that would meet that saturday. and the other two resolutions to expunge the impeachments, i don't even know if you can do that, but it's ridiculous. you know, i was one of the managers for the first impeachment. it's worth noting that more than -- we had 52 votes to convict, 53 on the second charge. you need two-thirds, but certainly a majority of the senate thought that he was guilty and voted to convict, and as to the second impeachment trial, again, we didn't get two-thirds, but 57% of

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here's zoe lofgren asking durham an eyebrow raising question about traveling to italy with bill barr. >> i thought it was down a rabbit's hole, but you and attorney general barr went to italy to take a look at some allegation about foreign service, and italian officials gave you evidence that they said linked donald trump to certain financial crimes. did the attorney general ask you to investigate that matter that the italians referred to you? and if so, did you take any investigative steps, and did you file charges? and if not, did you file a declaration memo for decision not to charge in this case? >> the question's outside the scope of what i think i'm authorized to talk about. it's not part of the report. i can tell you this, investigative steps were taken. grand jury subpoenas were issued, and it came to nothing. >> a dramatic collision of facts and republican disinformation at a hearing today about mr. durham's probe into the russia investigation. it's where we begin with some of our favorite reporters and friends. "the new york times" washington correspondent charlie savidge is

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. >> let's discuss this and more now with california congresswoman, zoe lofgren.taken part in all four modern impeachments dating back to nixon. she was a member of the house of the january 6th committee, so you have so much perspective you can offer to this conversation, congresswoman. let's begin with the indictment in happened against donald trump in the classified documents case. what do you feel is the most concerning when it comes to national security based on the evidence laid out in the allegations in this indictment? >> well, that he mishandled these documents so severely. it's not cited in the indictment, but there were documents so secret that some of the fbi agents couldn't look at them because they didn't have a high enough clearance and that they were left unguarded in public spaces. we know that spies have infiltrated mar-a-lago and so you know, that's a concern. it's very reckless. it's just terrible. he conspired to really obstruct the fbi from completing their search warrant and, you know, the whole thing is a mess. you know, we will have it all

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conduct seemingly inching closer to charges is where we begin the hour with democratic congresswoman zoe lofgrenman, a lot what was we know exists as evidence of the fake electors scheme and the plot out in the states, we know from your investigative work. and the committee did such a meticulous job of putting -- of illustrate organize showing through evidence that trump sat atop that chain of command with his lieutenant, eastman, under it, making farcical legal arguments that even eastman seems to admit were untrue. and rudy giuliani sort of captaining the statewide teams. tell me what you think his criminal exposure is on the state plots to overturn individual defeats of his. >> i'm not an expert on georgia's rico statutes, but clearly he was at the center -- he being the ex-president -- of a wide-ranging conspiracy to overturn the election. and some of those actions were connected to georgia. we've all heard his phone call with the secretary of state where he tells him to find the votes he didn't have so he could win the state. certainly he knew that the election was not fraudulent. he'd been

but it was a sense until the very end -- i mean, i remember asking congresswoman zoe lofgren until like last 12 hours that the committee existed about secret service response to their efforts to get all their messages, and it's clear that in the end they got some emails where they couldn't get text messages, but they were never able to fully pierce the inner conversations that agents were having amongst themselves. it feels significant that this reporting suggests a half a dozen agents have been before the grand jury. that seems like a significant difference between how far congress was able to get and how far jack smith may now be. >> well, of course. i mean, once you get somebody in a subpoena, grand jury testimony, they're under incredible penalty and pain to remember it accurately, and to tell you the full story. and i have to say, you know, we all should keep in mind the dueling heart of a secret service agent. they have historically believed that they keep the confidences of their president so that they can keep that president close and safe. that if they start blabbing about what