national guard. and chief, you were stunned by the tepid response. can you clarify that and tell us how the conversations went? >> there was a phone call that was convened between several officials. chief sund was on the call, literally pleading. there were several army officials on the call. i don't know them all by name. several officials from district government were on the stage. chief simons was pleading for the deployment. national guard. in response to that, there was not an immediate yes, the national guard is responding, yes, the national guard is on the way, yes, the national guard are being restaged from traffic posts to respond. the response was more asking about the plan, what was the plan for the national guard. the response was more focused on, in addition to the plan, the optics, about how this looks with boots on the ground on the capitol. and my response to that was simply, i was just stunned. i have officers out there literally fighting for their lives. we're kind of going through

you know, we've talked a little bit about the deployment or lack of deployment of the national guard. and one of the questions for mr. sund or chief contee, in the fact that we -- the district did not have the ability to bring the guard to the table because of frankly marian bowser was not treated in a totally fair fashion in this. this may be outside your lane, but her inability to bring the guard to the table and actually any on the panel, you know, that to me is a reflection of the disempowerment of the district. on a going-forward basis in terms of preparing the national guard, should the mayor of the district of columbia have the power to do that in terms of the hurdles for the federal checklist? >> yes. i absolutely agree with that. >> anybody else want to -- continue answer that question as well? >> we have an established process or the capitol police do to make the request through the capitol police board that is equally as effective. >> i feel like the long-term discrimination against the district, we've seen it in some of the legislation where they did not receive the same k

governor janis mcgeachin supports legislative initiatives to restrict the use of a state's national guard in undeclared wars, which she believes are not included in under article 1 of the constitution. allowing federal use of state's militia for executing the laws of the nation. suppressing insurrection and repelling invasions. >> it should be difficult to take our state militias and our active duty military into war without a congressional declaration of war. we have no business fighting in these foreign overseas misadventures. and so i don't see it as an anti war. i see it as a pro constitution measure. >> reporter: mcknight, both a former marine and army veteran, launched the “defend the guard” initiative, wi other veterans and politicians fromoth parties to limit foreign deployments national guard troops only to wars formally declared by congress. the 2001 war on terror resolution has allowed the past four presidents to send national guard troops to fight in afghanistan and iraq without a declaration of war. >> now is the time to push back >> citizen soldiers were always meant to be t

yes, the national guard is responding. yes, the national guard is on the way. one thing that did not come up in today's hearing but has still not been explained about that desperate phone call the d.c. police described, that the pentagon initially lied about one of the military officers who was on that call. the "washington post" reporting last month that after trump's disgraced national security adviser mike flynn told president trump he should use military force and martial law to seize power despite election results, mike flynn's brother was at the pentagon and on that call. the call where the pentagon allegedly slow walked approving deploying the national guard. mike flynn's brother, lieutenant general charles flynn, has denied that his relationship with his brother was any sort of factor in the response to the capitol attack. but the army has not explained why they repeatedly lied when they insisted multiple times that general flynn's brother had nothing to do with it. that he was not on the call when in fact he was. so to have one of the central figures i

, which is national guard in title 32 status, the inactive national guard, which is basically folks that have not yet all the way transitioned out of the guard they're on a roster and can be recalled, and something called the maryland defense force which i have a slide which is a nonfederalized militia. and then again in maryland for example able-bodied individuals, which is everybody else that's not members of the previous organizations would be the unorganized militia. so what you have is basically you have two national guards. when brad earlier was talking about the federal government response and it only happens after the state is exhausted, well, the national guard is both. for example, i have a commission from the president of the united states and i have a commission from the governor of maryland. so it's this dual status that makes the national guard a unique organization as well as unique military force in the country. so that on the left of that slide you can see where the organized militia is trained and appointed et cetera and has federal recognition, but is governed by

that from nbc's mark potter. >> reporter: after the worst night of violence yet, the missouri national guard rolled out with a mission very clearly and narrowly defined. they will not be out on the streets tonight. they will only guard the police command post and will answer to the missouri highway patrol still in charge of overall security. in a written statement today, governor jay nixon said the guardsmen are to provide protection and ensure the safety of our unified command center, which was the target last night of a coordinated attack. >> that will free up law enforcement resources to protect the peaceful protesters, the citizens of ferguson and their property. >> reporter: the command center is set up in a shopping center about a half-mile from the main protest zone. last night police wearing gas masks ran through the parking lot to form security lines after hearing reports of nearby gunfire, molotov cocktails and an angry crowd heading their way. it took more than an hour to bring the threats under control. >> they love their child. >> reporter: the events last night were in stark co

bush's national guard service record.f a sudden the whole story wasn't about president bush, but about cbs. it was that backlash that ultimately ended the long and storied career of one of the giants of journalism, who will be with us here in a moment to talk about this. but the question that is cbs was addressing in that report, the questions about george w. bush's time in the national guard, those questions really did just disappear in the uproar over cbs and its fonts and the documents that they used in their report. the overall story fell away into nothingness for a long time, not just past the presidential election that year, but for the rest of george w. bush's time in office. now there are three things happening related to that scandal which absolutely engulfed the news media in late 2004 right before the presidential election that year. now three things happening. number one, george w. bush is back as the rehabilitated hero of the republican party who's going to save his brother jeb's presidential campaign. number

national guard? do we have an idea of how that order would have made its way through to sending that order to the helicopter pilots to do what they did? >> reporter: so the d.c. guard is different than the rest of the country, as you probably know, chuck, because there's no governor here, right. >> right. >> reporter: so the secretary of the army is actually -- over sees the d.c. national guard. of course, there's general

to come in, to bring the national guard in. all throughout the afternoon, he resisted, refused to authorize or agree to the authorization of the national guard to come in. and he was only moved to change his mind on that after the intervention of other white house officials who told him that for the sake of the country, the national guard needed to be called in and convinced him and urged him that if he did not do this, the situation would get worse. the situation would become more dire, and would spread beyond washington, d.c. and he finally agreed to do it. >> jon karl, i don't have to remind you, how many times last summer did the president call democratic mayors and governors weak for not calling in the national guard to take on black lives matter protests. >> i mean, over and over again throughout the protests after the killing of george floyd, this was his theme over and over again. if only they would call in the national guard. i'll do it if they won't do it. you've got to be tough. at one point, you remember him repeati

the governor used the national guard of arkansas to keep the black children out of the schools. esident eisenhower from a world war ii hero, general eisenhower, supreme allied commander, president eisenhower nationalized the arkansas national guard, made them federal, federalized the national guard. he had absolute authority to do that. once they were federalized, once they were in the chain of command at the defense department, the president had absolute authority in the governor was powerless, the integration, the integration of arkansas public schools and proceeded peacefully. there's no doubt that president trump, should he take that step, has the authority to nationalize or to impose the national guard -- to nationalize the state national guard appointments and make them federal. there's no doubt the president can do that. >> mma just comment on because used it as well and they passed by 92 riots, they were brought in but let me make one other point. this is the problem. 97, 98% of his cops are good, they're putting their lives on the line, they protect us and we have to pro

members of the national guard.equesting assistance from the national guard and maryland doesn't have authority over the national guard, and most governors do and the mayor does not and you have to get it from the secretary of defense, and the generals were running it up the flagpole and did not authorization, and we kept going forward with that anyway, and steny hoyer called me and he was in a bunker and he was pleading for help, and i informed him i called up the guard but we didn't have authorization yet. we eventually got a call, we were continuing to mobilize and having meetings with our entire security team and a little over an hour and a half later acting secretary of the army called me and basically said, you know, can you come in? i said we're ready to go and we're already en route. >> remarkable. governor hogan you have heard about the defense department about what caused the delay? >> i got a call earlier today from the acting -- it's secretary of defense who just thanked us for our quick response and tha

the president authorized calling up the national guard. ir to say that in many ways you are almost borderline begging the people in charge of the capitol led by nancy pelosi to take the guard troops because you are going to need them, the intelligence is telling us this could go -- spiral down in a bad way? >> yeah, you are right. that is in our blood stream at the department of defense which i lead, and a political organization, that is our bloodstream: prepare, prepare, prepare. prepare to the max of law allows you to prepare and this is borderline and basically pleading with them, almost begging them to say look at the intelligence, you are going to need the security information, we know you want sideshow to occur on january sixth but do not allow this to occur because lives will be hurt and lost, so we did with the law required and we went all the way up to the border and said, look, you know this is going to happen, let us help you. let us help you. let the department of defense help your security posture so it does not have to be fede

>> i don't recall the national guard police. i never spoke to the secretary of army was handling that relationship. but there must be a formal request. there cannot be a phone call that says, "hey, we need help." you cannot deployed troops in america it is unlawful unless the national guard pursuant to a legal and lawful request that has to come from the head of the agency. >> sean: last question. you went to this committee before this committee. i read that they were asking more questions about afghanistan, which seems rather odd to me. but you have a timeline of the events that day. you were backed up by the inspector general, department of defense in terms of you taking the right actions. my question to you, what is in that timeline that people need to know? >> no, fantastic question. it is backed up by writing. mayor bowser written refusal, the communication between the leader in the capitol police and chain of command to the dod refusing our request to allow national guardsmen and women to stage january 4, january 5, before

and around ferguson. >> and hopefully the president will have a question as to where was the national guard. thank you as always. with me political annual lift dyson. michael, there's so many questions i have for you and so many he requests -- questions the nation has about what went down over the past four months when the grand jury was hearing testimony. a lot of people have a sense that the system is rigged or that there is institutional failure. jammal writes that justice for michael brown will not come from the criminal justice system. -- saying this. >> is that fair? and if it is fair, how do we go about changing that? >> well mr. bouy makes an excellent point that you don't expect the wolves who have been eating the chicken to now all of a sudden to guard them, so to speak. and i think it is really interesting to really celebrate malcolm x there. it is interesting to say that yes on the one hand we have to ack nothing th acknowledge that the justice system is how they seek out fundamental process of justice for african-americans and other peoples. on the other hand martin luther king

you know, the national guard, we participate in several national security events at these she-profile events. we go through basic investigate and joining the military. there was a program in place, continue to vetting to make sure we ensure our security clearances and that we're not involved in nefarious activities. having as many members here for the inauguration so they just stepped up the -- the background checks, make sure that we've all met that threshold. once again, the lead federal agency, the federal bureau of investigation, they have taken care of that and made some identifications and we're moving on. over. >> and do you know -- is the vetting complete, or is it still ongoing? >> you know, i don't have those numbers readily available. however, i know there were over 17,000 in the last day or so. our numbers have ticked up quite a bit since then so i'm certain by the end of this event we should be cleared and support the mission successfully. >> i want to point out the vast majority of national guard troops are loyal and, you know, doing incredible jobs because they -- they

now national guard troops deployed. the move follows a night of confrontations between police and protesters. peaceful demonstrations spiraled out of control with gunfire. tear gas and molotov cocktails. and we've witnessed a lot of it. at this point, though, what will it take to end the violent protests? i want to bring in he is ready to call, to ask, i should say, for a moratorium on protesting. the national president of the black lawyers for justice, which was formerly the new black panther party. you said you're not calling, you're asking for what? >> first of all, due to those results and the people's demands for justice in this case, that they do have to march. but what we're asking for, and they're going to march tonight, and we're going to help them. but what we're going to make sure, is that after sundown, that there -- that everything ends peacefully. and that the cause is respected. and that agents and people that are here to mess up the good will of these demonstrators are not allowed to take over this. >> s

>> i think we're going to have to make sure that the national guard as i understand it, the national guard are not coming in with arms. they are coming in to help with the crowd control. i think that's good but we're going to have to get the police, the county police department to start backing up. if the crowd is able to just protest, their generally finished protesting and go home. if you start you know, trying to point machine guns at the crowd, you're going to have a problem. that's what has happened for the last seven days now. it can't go on. reverend jackson is right, or it's going to erupt in another place. >> that's my position on this, why inflame it by bringing in another show of force to the national? you say that the national guard is going to be involved in crowd control. are they going to be unarmed? probably not. i mean, every time tlfhere was e curfew and now the national guard. every time there's a show of force, the crowd has pushed back. these people, it seems to me, want to be heard and the reason why they are not being heard is because why? because the wheels of

the president has directed that the national guard be deployed to the southern border. the department of defense has long supported the efforts of dhs to protect our nation's borders. this includes infrastructure construction, surveillance operations training and aerial support roughouthe western hemisphere. while plans are being finalized, it's our expectation that the national guard will deploy. it will take time to have the details in place but it will begin today and we're anxious to have this support. i've spoken with the governors. some have already confronted illegal immigration and to strengthen the border security to prevent the criminal activity and the inflow of drugs. these are leaders that understand the importance of enforcement and how it improves safety in their states. i look forward to working with them. as a result, i will not provide full details today because much of what we'll be doing with the border state governors will be worked out through the appropriate processes as it has been in the past. the urgency cannot be underscored. we will be doing t

you had this experience in new orleans, post katrina, what would your advice be to the national guard as to how to behave in this situation? >> use every opportunity to get out and talk with the people, engage with them, provide water for them, because the guard - they spend most of their time during humanitarian operations in the state. they know how to do that. any way they can to reach out to the people and protect the people, and help them in any way they can. and the guards know how to do that. they have a great touch. they know how to do it, as opposed to going if like super s.w.a.t. teams. they are there to help and protect people, not there to crack people's heads with batons. >> general, great to see you. we've been speaking to retired army general russell honera. thanks for your time >>> the n.a.a.c.p. wants local governments to do more to help businesses affected by the protest. >> we'll also ask both of them, the town executive and the governor to especially look at - now that it's been declared an emergency, and now that the national guard is in there, to look at the need

we've got the 2:36 request the national guard support by verbal question. flynn recommends for d.c. afting a plan for course of action. they say hey, we need people. the national guard does not get sent, and from the beginning there has been a question of why not. >> there has been a question of why it took so long for national guard troops to get to the capitol building and defend the capitol. the defense department's internal watchdog, its inspector general released a report earlier this year that was basically exculpatory. it essentially said that the pentagon did everything it could have done, that senior pentagon leaders were doing their best, and that this day on the whole looks good for the u.s. military. what we have emerging now is a counternarrative coming not from the pentagon, but from the d.c. national guard, the actual group of troops who were called to respond to the capitol building. of course, we've had general walker's testimony. and now we have colonel matthews, who was on that 2:30 call amplifying and adding detail to that testimony. one key point of dissension is

in 1992 the national guard was called into l.a. after the beating of rodney king. d in 2005, 30,000 guard members helped stable new orleans after hurricane katrina. >> i'll be watching over the next several days to assess whether in fact it's helping rather than hindering progress in ferguson. >> as the president pointed out, most protests have been peaceful. but the governor blames the violence on a small group of people that are from out of town. >> thank you, jonathan. >>> president obama says he understands the anger that has lead to a weak of unrest, but violencing won't bring about justice. mike viqueira joins us live from washington. mike? >> president obama is back from martha's vineyard for a brief break from his vacation. he met with eric holder, and then appeared in the briefing room, and said that eric holder was going to ferguson, missouri, he is bringing along the justice department liaison. because of the strains between the groups. the president and eric holder also reminding everyone that a civil rights investigation is now underway. interviews have

national guard to the u.s. capitol. lieutenant general walter piatt, director of army staff, who is also on that call, claimed quote, at no point on january 6th did i tell anyone that the d. c. national guard should not deploy directly to the capitol. well, colonel earl matthews was serving as the top attorney for the d. c. national guard on that day, january 6th. he was also on that call. he said those two generals are lying. and i don't mean like suggests that, in a 36-page memo, matthews calls both men, absolute and unmitigated liars. criticize the pentagon's inspector general for whitewashing the army's actions, specifically he says general piatt's answer to members of the national guard quote false and misleading. calls general charles flynn quote he was not concerned with optics outright perjury. as political reports the, pentagon's participating in a secret attempt -- that's the woodruff swan broke the story for politico, she's a national correspondent, she joins me now. betsy, let's set up the point of controver

going to bring in the national guard have. you seen any evidence of that at this point, or i would imagine they're really just getting on their way. but have you seen anything? >> no, we have not seen national guard out here. as i look at these officers i'm trying to get close enough to see some of the badges. they're all baltimore city police as far as i can see. i don't see anybody from any other units, at least from this location, erin. >> all right, joe johns, thank you very much. we're going to go back to our reporters. and we have reporters all across this area of baltimore as they find out more of what is happening. "outfront," we're going to bring in jamal bryant pastor of the temple of baltimore who gave the eulogy at freddie gray's funeral. also representative keith haynes. representative haynes let me begin with you. what is your reaction to what we're seeing tonight? just a deterioration, riots, rioters cutting holes in a fire hose so that police and firefighters can't even put a fire out in a cvs. >> yes, that's m

that is the national guard. and we've seen -- the group that shot into the crowd that we were in were minneapolis city police. all right. here we go. we've got more coming down the road. typically we wouldn't move out of the way for this sort of thing because we're not on the road, chris, so we let them go. but this is exactly what happened two hours ago. we were literally standing there. police pulled up, got out of their car, assumed a position in front of the crowd, and started firing. so everybody is now a little bit skittish about what happens when police come. i will tell you they spent three days not getting into a confrontation with protesters. that's a firecracker. not getting into confrontations with protesters. and even at the point where the protesters moved in on that third precinct, the police did go up on the roof, and they fired tear gas and flash bangs into the crowd. but there seemed to be some deliberate strategy not to actually engage with people where not necessary. yesterday all day, you ha

so now the national guard, a nt wanted entity and the national guard is here. just a couple of minutes ago -- probably about 20 minutes ago, i think it was three buses of them drove up and about 200 of them got out and now they are guarding the ferguson police department. where they were last night, you know, i don't know. it's our understanding that they were protecting federal buildings and landmarks in the city of st. louis rather than being in ferguson. and we were told that the mayor of ferguson is saying, where is the national guard? my city is burning. i don't see them anywhere. >> you saw all of those businesses, family owned businesses, cleaners, a beauty salon, you saw all of those burnt out, destroyed, looted. these people are really suffering as a result of that. >> reporter: they are. and your heart can't help but go out to them. we were back here in august and a lot of people lost business because they were just afraid of the possibility of something happening. now something real has happened. instead of being afraid of the possibility, they have

we need a full national guard component now.ve some senators who are still in their hideaways . they need massive personnel now. can you get them maryland national guard as well? >> oh my gosh. they are just breaking windows, it's just horrendous. and every instigation of the president of the united states. okay, thank you, governor. >> virginia guard has been called in. >> i was just talking to governor northam and what he said is they said 200 of state police and -- of the national guard. >> all of a sudden, john, we are told there's not only a lockdown -- >> that's the attorney general. all these senators, including the vice president of the united states, has evacuated. >> -- transcends everything, but the fact is on any given day, they are breaking the law in many different ways. quite frankly, much of it at the instigation of the president of the united states. >> why don't you get the president to tell them to leave the capitol, mister attorney general? and your law enforcement responsibility. a public statement they shou

guard in the history of the nation." if testimony before the senate defense appropriations committee called the guard a "cost-effective proven solution" allows the nation "to maintain a robust military at theleast possible cost to taxpayer." the september 11, 2001 terror on the world trade center in new york and the pentagon in washington pushed thecitizen warriors of national guard more accustomed to responding to u.s. natural frontlines twoe of foreign wars. in addition to iraq and afghanistan, national guard tosonnel have deployed libya, kosovo and other hot around the world. nothing illustrates the dual inhl better than monday illinois when governor pat quinn activated the national guard to residents hit by a ferocious winter storm and another was activate for deployment to kuwait. congress recognized the guard's tee fencen the 2012 authorization act when it elevated the head of the bureau to the joint chiefs of staff, the military advisors to president obama and his national security team. the guard's future is uncer

as for thursday's deadline for air national guard members, oklahoma national guard officials were toldtional guard who remain unvaccinated, instead directed us to the governor's office. this is turning into a standoff, one that has a shoot yourself in the foot quality, particularly for members of the oklahoma air national guard and national guard who may be following state guidance here that is going to end their military careers regardless of whatever the governor says. i told you this was going to go badly. it's going badly. watch this space. h this space the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ ♪ feel stuck and need a loan? move to sofi and feel what it's like to get your money right. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ move to a sofi personal loan. earn $10 just for viewing your rate — and get your money right. ♪ (vo) subaru and our retailers believe in giving back. that's why, in difficult times, we provided one hundred and fifty million meals to feeding america. and now through the subaru share the love

yes, the national guard is on the way. yes, the national guard are being restaged from traffic posts to respond. the response was more asking about the plan that, you know, what was the plan for the national guard. the response was more focussed on in addition to the plan, the optics, you know, of how this looks with boots on the ground on the capitol. and my response to that was simply i was just stunned that, you know, i have officers that were out there literally fighting for their lives and we're kind of going through, you know, what seemed like an exercise to really check the boxes and it was not an immediate response. when i asked specifically, steve sund, chief sund was he requesting the national guard and was that request being denied, the response was, no, that's nothing the u.s. department of navy was, no, we're not denying the request but they did have concerns. i was just stunned at that response. >> describing what it was like to be in the thick of the devastating battle that day after rushing to work two hour

by the national guard. as you know, as of tonight, overseeing operations by the xhanl and control center down the way a little bit at the target. so you can't really even compare the two when you think about the tear gas and especially in previous nights. what was widely perceived to be militaristic overreaction by the police, initially in the first few days with rubber bullets and tear gas. this is day and night. i have to say, it is honestly, a two-way street. it is not just the police holding back. it is a very organized protest right now. which is different from days past when it has been more people not necessarily knowing, people having a lot of energy, anger, passion, and not having one way to channel it. this is very organized with everybody joining in this one very long line of protests, don. >> all right. jake tapper out with the protesters and keeping an eye on them. we'll get back to you throughout the next two hours. i'm joined here by the national president and founder of the black lawyers for

national guard. there are 54 national guard units in the country, including the territories, but d.c. is the only one that is not under local control. the ultimate authority rests with the president who is the commander in chief of the d.c. national guard. he delegates authority to the secretary of defense who can then in turn delegate authority to the secretary of army, so in -- in the case of d.c. the mayor cannot call up the national guard herself. she must request assistance and then there's these layers of approval more than in any other location in the country. having said that, brooke, you know, this is not d.c.'s first rodeo. d.c. is a target for many nefarious actors, and i think what the commanding general testified today is that there are protocols in place that have been, you know, with prior approvals and things that should allow this to happen very quickly, but i think what this tells us is the -- where we need to move up the chain is to the secretary of defense to find out -- the forme

right now, 2,000 national guard, 1,000 police in that area. let's get straight to brian todd who is there. brian, there was a lot of chanting where you were just a moment ago. what are they saying? >> erin, they're saying all night, all day, we will fight for freddie gray. that's been a popular refrain. they have been chanting that for blocks and blocks as they marched here. they shouted don't shoot, hands up. that refrain made popular after ferguson. this is the protest leader. his name is jay morrison. he has been very energetic all night long in leading these people exhorting them to support freddie gray with his bull horn. he's had kind of a pied piper effect picking up people along the way. we have a couple hundred people with us. and we're panning to the left. we're at the foot of city hall and this is the dynamic the protesters have encountered that is different. the presence of national guardsmen. they were not here before. they are here now in force. thousands of national guardsmen have re-enforced the baltimore police. now they're ma

iing up the national guard is it fair to say that in many ways you're almost borderline begging the people in charge at the capitol led by nancy pelosip to take the guard troops because you're going to need them? the intelligence is telling us this could go really spiral down in a bad way. yeah, you're right. look, that's in our bloodstream at the department of defense, which i ledrtrt , which is anza apolitical organization that's in our bloodstream prepare prepareti, prepare, prepare for the max that the law allows yout to prepare. and this does borderline b on basically pleading with them almost begging them to say lookd at the intelligence you're going to need the security situation. do t not politicize this .we knw we know you want a sideshow to occur on january six , but do not allow this to occur because lives will be hurt. livesrt will be lost . and so we did what the law required but we wentt all the way up to the border and said, look, you know, this is going to happen. let us help you. let us help you. h letel us the department of defense help your security posture so it doesn't

the national guard is.he men and women of the national guard of the 50 states and the district and the territories operating under legitimacy vilian control of the governors, they are the right backstop, when law enforcement no longer has the capacity -- >> reporter: general, i'm sorry -- i'm sorry -- i'm sorry to interrupt, but i've only got 30 seconds. i want to ask about that point, the national guard in the states are being led by the governors. we just heard the mayor of washington, d.c. criticize the fact that the guard in d.c. have gone from 1,200 to over 4,500. do you believe that so many national guard on the streets of d.c. could be a problem? >> well, you know, the district of columbia, as the mayor indicated, is a unique environment. it is a federal entity. the national guard in the district of columbia operates under federal authority and, as the mayor indicated that she has questioned some of the policy, the legal authorities for the use national guard from other states in the city of washingt

and we know national guard can mobilize like that.eone to deploy immediately if all the details haven't been worked out yet the states? >> you don't. as simple as that. there is a program in the pentagon called defense support to civilian authorities. we have been doing this for quite some time. there have been, operation jump start was mentioned in the briefing, during in the bush administration, where you had about 6,000 federalized forces, supporting the border agents. that support came in variety of ways. it was logistics support, driving trucks for them, doing meals for they will association they could put the border security doing their job. whenever you have a decrease in border agents, the ones who do the arrests, you have to support and sometimes d.o.d., department of defense is asked to do that. in this case the national guard is not being federalized under the northern command and control. they're being asked to go to the border and provide support. on a daily basis, we have aero stats, the big balloons that have cameras on

again, the national guard has been called out today. e guard is primarily, i guess, defending would be the right word, the police operation center which police said was threatened by protesters over the course of the weekend. we're watching this unfold tonight. it's about 80 degrees and it's not raining for the first night in a few nights in downtown ferguson. we're going to speak with an attorney for michael brown's family, coming up next. stay with us. long we've been talking about the most important social issues. savannah: education. al: conservation. chris: uniting the nation. jim: with a bit of imagination. the more you know. but if you do... [ glass breaking, dog barking ] ...with allstate, your rates won't go up just because of it. claim rateguard from allstate. your home protects you, protect it back. your home protects you, so factors like diet can negatively impact good bacteria? even if you're healthy and active. phillips digestive health support is a duo-probiotic that helps supplement good bacteria found in two parts of you

"the washington post" before the riot, his bosses didn't want to have him request to have the national guard on standby. the pentagon confirmed the national police made no request for before wednesday's events. >> based on that assessment they had, they believe they had sufficient personnel and did not make a request. >> reporter: when the insurrection was under way, former capitol police chief told "the washington post" he pleaded five more times for help. the pentagon responded they didn't like the idea of a national guard in a police line. the decision was made to send the guard shortly after by acting defense secretary chris miller. now the hunt is on for many of the rioters, d.c. police asking for the public's help to identify them, like this man carrying the confederate flag. the bearded man wearing the camp auschwitz shirt is robert keith packer from virginia. the man in all black with a holster seen carrying plastic restraints is eric munchel from nashville, charged with two federal crimes. >>> jake, so far, 20 people have been arrested on federal charges and acting u.s. attorney for

not being stopped by national guard. keeping an eye out just to see, but there is not any police or official presence around, rachel. >> we will stick with you, ali, over the course of this hour. keep us apprised my friend. ali in the streets of minneapolis right now. i want to bring into the conversation right now the mayor of the great american city of st. paul, minnesota. mayor carter, born and raised in st. paul, served on the city council and elected to the city's first african-american mayor three years ago in 2017. mr. mayor, it is an incredibly difficult night in your city. thank you for taking the time to be with us for a couple of minutes. >> thank you so much. it is an incredibly difficult week. it is an incredibly difficult year in our city, in our country right now. >> let me ask you about the immediate situation on the streets right now. you and your fellow mayor of minneapolis, mayor frey, announced curfews today, that would have gone into effect within the past hour, and should have kept people off the st

the national guard members jumped in and went to another location. there are little pockets of flashy lights over the city. any direction you look down definitely compared to last time it seems there's a heavier police presence, and officers are on the move. >> we are seeing other trucks. there's a lot of trucks that have been merging or arriving at the intersection. have you seen any arrests of people who have violated the curfew is that not happening unless there's a direct confrontation? >> the only person i have seen custody is the individual that jumped towards the police line, probably half an hour ago or so. really interesting. i'm at a different intersection. this is an hear about five or six blocks away from the main police activity there's a police car, and behind it is a line of - as far as the eye can see, probably 20 or so national guard humvees, driving into another neighbourhood, bordering the winchester neighbourhood that we have been talking about. there's a large police preps heading to that neighbourhood. you can imagine from what

nor yet have the national guard back inside the park.assed here a little bit chris, going to keep moving back. but we've got gas cannisters, pepper spray. police are trying to disperse the crowd that's been out here -- first six hours of the day, peacefully but the situation has changed here. trying to keep on the edge here, not get caught up in anything. even more unsafe than this. chris. yeah. definitely getting the pepper spray experience now. tony, stop here if we can. see what we've got here. in the same boat. park police, get a shot across the park, tony. park police trying to maintain this barricade all night long. think of this as northernmost end of the white house complex. that's how it's been treated all night long by park enforcement. protesters and police have coexisted reasonably well along that barricade all night but as things have escalated, protesters getting more and more aggressive along the barricade, park police apparently had quite enough of this. [ no sound ] >> we seem to have lost audio now with our crew there.

i deploy the national guard. it had already been debunked, the new york times reporting on the evening of january 6th that trump, quote, rebuffed and resisted request to deploy the national guard. in the end, it was my -- vice president mike pence who approved the order to deploy. that did not stop trump, his allies and staff from repeating the lie over and over again. >> even in january that was given as many as 10,000 national guard troops were told to be on the ready by the secretary of defense. that was a direct order from president trump. >> a few weeks after that, trump said it again in an interview on fox news. this time trying to dump the blame on nancy pelosi. >> i definitely gave the number of 10,000 national guards. i think they should have 10,000 of the national guard ready. they took that number, from what i understand, they gave it to the people at the capitol, which is controlled by pelosi. and i heard they rejected it because -- >> of course that new part, also completely untrue. fabricated. trump

and at the white house right now, the national guard, 600 to 800 additional national guard from five states are being deployed to d.c. from ohio, new jersey, delaware, utah and new york to join the 1200 d.c. guards who have already been mobilized. the insurrection acts have not been invoked, according to senior official who briefed at the pentagon, bret. >> bret: jennifer griffin, life at the pentagon, jennifer again thank you. waiting for the president criticized for not remarking, not giving remarks, not speaking out but of course he did have a speech at the nasa event down at the cancer -- kansas space center at the rocket launch over the weekend. he talked about this specifically, the georgia florida death and how horrific it was in his words come and also the protest. you are looking now at lafayette park across from the white house and a beefed-up presence of both a combination of secret service, national guardsmen. there are d.c. police in and around the area as well. there has been from of the area of ground zero for a lot of the chaos over recent nights and obviously on the o

the national guard, the national guard being deployed to the area. the latest over night and the details we have learned about how he died. we are live where the city is under a curfew. good morning. i'm christine romans. it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. we welcome viewers here in the u.s. and around the

you know, casey, not just the texas national guard. you have the marines who are here with their amphibious vehicles, lots of different agencies contributing. an enormous effort to coordinate all of these groups and to get help to people as quickly as they need it. casey? >> steph, thank you so much for that. we'll keep an eye on what is happening with you down in beaumont, texas. also, in texas, four megashelters currently operating across the state, three in houston, and one in dallas. so far at least 32,000 texans have been housed in emergency shelters. this morning, femme fema says than 8,000 families have been located to hotels in the area. joining me is the ceo of the american red cross of texas gulf coast, dave brady. he's at the george r. brown convention center in houston, one of those major shelters. david, give us just a sense of where things are there. how people are feeling and how big your operation is on the ground. >> well, our operation here at george r. brown is a partnership with the city of houston and mayor turner

you can do two officers and put four national guard with them. if the officers decide to make an arrest they have some help. how are they going to be arm snd will they have rifles? in the '60s we had multiple shootings and deaths from a lot of shooting and rioting. we're not seeing that here so it will be interesting how they decide to deploy the guard. rifles are probably not necessary in my view. more riot gear, manpower, and back up. people that can help arrest them, cup them and put them in the back of police patty wagons. >> jim cavanagh, we appreciate your time today, thank you very much. >> more ahead on developing news out of missouri here on "the daily rundown." first a look at today's planner. michael brown's family will speak to the press. later the president meets with his attorney general eric holder. >>> i believe the continuing resolve of the good people of this community will ultimately triumph over the few people focusing on violence and destruction. this is charlie. his long day of doing it himself starts with back pain... and a