the arrival of a top republican, senator rand paul willing to say the country's number one hawk has no claws. david mill bank, joan walsh is an msnbc political analyst and editor at larnl for salon. rand paul's strategic bombing of dick cheney in 2009 just before paul announced his plans for the united states senate is worth another look today, as we assess the shortage of voices today defending cheney, or denouncing rand paul. let's watch. >> there's a great youtube of dick cheney in 1995 defending push number 1. he goes on for about five minutes. i think by the american enterprise institute. and he says it would be a disaster, it would be a civil war. there would be no exit strategy. dick cheney said it would be a bad idea and that's why the first bush didn't go into baghdad. then dick cheney works for halliburton, makes hundreds of thousands of dollars then he's back in government and then says it would be a good idea to go into iraq. >> published reaction from liz cheney, the daughter of dick cheney who said it's not surprising since senator paul often seems to get his foreign policy talking pointing from rachel mad

. >> for reaction to that i am joined by michael steel, john walsh of salon and paul sipger of "usa today you have sot thoughts. you thought there was misquoted numbers by senator cruz. >> i admire him for sticking to his script but the numbers, the obama administration did not release those people. half were released by judges. we also have a situation where immigration combines illegal and legal immigrants. so you talk about criminal aliens. they are not all subject to deportation. it is a complicated situation and he has come up with a scary number. >> why there is there a perception that illegal immigrants have a lot of criminals in their ranks. i have heard the story -- talk about generalities but when they get across the board er they go to work, hardest workers in the country. >> the at least likely to commit crimes, they are. >> you start with an illegal immigrant that have broken the law already. >> by definition. >> it is easy to say, all of thel these criminals. >> why the perception he's been able to pomle gate in that interview. >> cruz jumped on it, trump is selling it. >> i

walsh. joan and michael steele and paul. joan up in new york.of the people that care about illegal immigration and don't refer to it as undocumented workers, who really don't like illegal immigration, this guy seems to be scoring. >> yeah, because he's telling them what they want to hear, that it's going to be an easy problem. that proposal would create essentially a police state, to round up and move out 11 million undocumented immigrants and possibly their american-born children. >> so who else has a solution to illegal immigration? >> good question. >> well i asked the question, i want an answer. who has a good answer to those who are concerned about illegal immigrations. most people in most countries do worry about it. they're not all feverish about it. what do you think is the solution to illegal immigration? >> the senate worked hard on a bipartisan bill that wasn't perfect but that was going to make a difference. and you know, the answer is definitely not rounding people up and putting them on cattle cars and. >> i'm just trying to get to

walsh. kicking off this category, georgia congressman paul broun, creationiwho shuns science for a literal interpretationof the bible. this guy sits on the house committee on science, space, and technology. have a listen to what he told a group of his supporters last year. >> all this stuff i was talking about, evolution, big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. it's lies to keep me and all the folks taught that from understanding they need to say i hold the holy bible as being the major directions to me of how i vote in washington, d.c. and i'll continue to do that. >> joan, i think he's speaking at the natural history museum of all places denying the connection of us all there. i don't know why we test medicines on animals. there seems to be rexes physically with us and the rest of the wormed. this guy denies all of that. he seems to believe it all happened exactly as it was in the bible, as he interprets the bible. that's how he decides to vote on the science committee and the house. >> these are lies straight from the pit of hell. even if you disagree with him, there might be

joe walsh is out there today with a new political action committee. steve king and paulroun are howling in fury that big shots like karl rove are saying who should be the republican nominees and who shouldn't. today it was eric cantor's turn. the young dick nixon of the gop house is now saying he wants change. trouble is what he's said before and where he talked today. the super hawk of the party gave his manifesto at the city's nonprofit war room, the american enterprise institute. what he came out for, some new dedegree that colleges have to conduct employment surveys to say what jobs there are for history majors, english majors, you name it. i guess he wants to cut down on these people taking liberal subjects in college that allow you to think and express yourself. he sounds like he wants the federal government to have become a helicopter mom hovering over all of us. and they say democrats are intervening in people's live. what will republicans do next to try to deflect from their history of starting unnecessary wars, chasing minorities and others from the polling pla

and senator rand paul put a hold on president obama's pick. joining me now is salon's joan walshnd washington post's dana milbank. they can't beat these people so they're doing this obstructing. they're trying to smear this guy. they know he's going to be secretary of defense. there is absolutely no purpose in what cruz is doing except trying to move he's more obnoxious than neocons are. they're just messing around with the government of the united states, i think. >> they're messing around in a particularly ugly way. i mean, ted cruz, this is ugly stuff, chris. and the good news for marco rubio is he makes rubio look like a statesman. and john mccain god bless him is rising to the occasion. and i haven't had many nice things to say about mccain in the last few years. it is separating out the attack dogs and the really vicious people from the people who are merely obstructionists. anyway, marco rubio missed a big moment last night. it's not about the drink of water. it comes down to the fact they do not understand that this new democratic electorate, latinos, women, african-ameri

paul brown. i think it's only begun. thank you very much, have a nice weekend fellas. joan walshnd richard wolfe. >>> up next, the colbert report, i was lucky to get on with steve, what a great guy, even though he plays this crazy person. next on "the sideshow." you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. somewhere in america, a city comes to life. it moves effortlessly, breathes easily. it flows with clean water. it makes its skyline greener and its population healthier. all to become the kind of city people want to live and work in. somewhere in america, we've already answered some of the nation's toughest questions. and the over sixty thousand people of siemens are ready to do it again. siemens. answers. as much as i can about a company before i invest in it. that's why i like fidelity. they give me tools and research i can't get anywhere else. their stock screener lets me search for stocks with more than 140 criteria. i can see what their experts are thinking and even call them to bounce an idea off of one of their investment professionals. a good strategy relies on good insigh

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. >> paul, how do you negotiate the end of a criminal investigation? i mean it seems to me unbelievable. like lawrence walsh'snk went on with the iran-contra for like nine years. i think that may be extreme, but how can a lawyer come in from outside and say, get together here, mr. mueller, mr. president. let's shorten this thing up here. how do you shorten it because obviously trump doesn't want any more investigation, and it looks to me like mr. mueller would like to have as much investigation as he can get away with, keep it going until he finds something really interesting perhaps. how could giuliani come in and say, i'm blowing the whistle on you guys. we're going to stop this thing. >> because he is not a good criminal defense lawyer, chris. there are a hundred white collar criminal defense attorneys in d.c. who are experienced in high-profile, complex, criminal investigations. rudy giuliani is not one of those people. he's a has-been who was never all that great in the first place, which is why he can make this outrageous statement that he can bring the investigation to an end. trust me, he cannot do th

here was senator paul taking questions about plagiarizing and turning them into the character of the person who caught him plagiarizing. jonathan capehart and joan walsh msnbc contributors. what i think we're looking at here is not a question, of course, of plagiarizing from wikipedia with all its own problems and credibility problems which we've all come across, but plagiarizing and being caught doing it instead of saying got me. which he should have said you got me. a staff member was rushing through a preparation for something i said. put it in the speech without putting it in words for me simply using their words. instead of admitting that, he jumbles the story, talks about the plot line of movies, moves the conversation just like they conflate one with another subject and hope the people don't have a memory. but we do. your thoughts. >> exactly. all he had to do was say you know what, we messed up. she got me. i apologize. my staff will do better. and let's move on to more substantive issues that the american people care about. and that would have been the end of it. the american people are a very forgiving people. people on the left and rachel m

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walsh. i'm in massachusetts, i have to give a speech at my college, holy cross, i'm thrilled we are going to have a new senator from massachusetts. the word i'm getting is paulhairman of the party, a long time kennedy ally. apparently the kennedy people were ticked off at the boston globe gugus who tried to jam dukakis down their throat. >> to have gone this trouble and defy the wishes of the kennedy boy and vicki kennedy is not something duvall patrick could have done. it sounds like you might have another senator during your trip. >> we will have charisma. dukakis has a little, but paul kirk has a lot. will the reality of of democrats change the thinking of you and people like you who are tough and militant. i use that positively in your case. >> thank you. >> and in ed's case, who believe the democrats can rule because they have the power. you don't wait for 60 votes. you jam it through with reconciliation. i'm talking about health care. >> i understand. >> is 60 votes mean they will wait and get it the usual way instead of jam it through? >> i think they have to wait and try the usual way. we have the sad situation with senator byrd. we are dealing with

walsh, and jonathan capehart. these are the folks who for whatever reason still won't or don't get it. kicking off this category is paul who shuns science in favor of a literal interpretation from the bible. what's more perplexes is this guy sits on the house committee on science, space, and technology. have a listen to what he told a group of his supporters last year. >> all that stuff i was talking about evolution, big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. and it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior. i hold the holy bible as being the major directions to me of how i vote in washington, d.c. and i'll continue to do that. >> joan, i think he's speaking at a natural history museum of all places denying the connection of us all there. i don't know why we test our medicines on animals. there seems to be a lot of connections at least with us and the rest of this world. but this guy conditions all of that. he believes that somehow it all happened exactly as it was in the bible. as he interprets the bible. and that's how he decides wh

walsh. i'm in massachusetts. i'm going to give a speech on my colleagues. i am thrilled we're going to have a new senator from massachusetts within a few hours. the word i'm getting it's paulirman of the party, the democratic party, longtime kennedy ally. head of the kennedy library, basically. the foundation. the kennedy people were ticked off at "the boston globe" who tried to jam dukakis down their throat. >> these good government people. mike du caucus would have been a fine choice. this is a sentimental action. to go to this trouble and decide the wishes of the kennedy boys and vicki kennedy would make no sense, something duvall patrick could not think of doing. it sounds like you might have another senator during your trip. >> we'll have charisma this time. dukakis may have been deficient in that department. paul kirk has a lot of it. what about this question of 60 votes? will the reality of 60 democrats change the thinking of you and people like you, like ed schultz, my colleague, who are tough and militant? i use that word positively in your case. >> thank you. >> and in ed's case, who believe the democrats can rule because they wish to. in a ramrod sense. if you h

paul was caught lifting chunks of wikipedia entries in his speeches and later found to have lifted sections of think tank essays in his books and opinion columns he's written. "the new york times" says, "mr. walshhave gone considerably further." back to you, sean. what evidence do we have that he really suffered from a syndrome that might have shaken his ability to make sound decisions when he was taking this course? >> well, right now the evidence we have is basically what he's telling us and what his campaign is telling everybody about what happened. you mentioned earlier, you know, there have been cases of plagiarism in politics before. biden, rand paul. these stories tend to fade into the background. you know, a lot of people probably don't remember that joe biden, you know, had an incident similar to this and they would probably say, oh, oh, yeah, you know, that kind of sounds familiar. but, you know, in this case, it's really potentially damaging for walsh because his military record has come up in a negative light before. republic chance have tried to attack him over it. if this was on a different issue, perhaps this might fade into the background, but because this was an issue already a

paul. to recycle a bush seems like a backwards losing -- >> all i want them to do is run somebody i can imagine voting for. anyway, thank you very much, howard fineman. thank you, joan walsh>>> up next, on the eve of the opening of the george w. bush presidential library, we're going to be down there tomorrow, he says his relationship with dick cheney is cordial. what do you see in that? what a strange thing to say about a guy you worked with for eight years. cordial? what went on between these two. this is "hardball," the place for politics. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... then he gave me some blood tests. showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number -- not just me. [ male announcer ] today, men with low t have androgel 1.62% (testosterone gel). the #1 prescribed topical testosterone replacement therapy, increases testosterone when used daily. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a

now, rand paul has very few points, but i think he's going down, too. >> and even went off on the mayor of boston, marty walsh. >> boston mayor marty walsh has challenged you to take the ice bucket challenge. is that something you'll do? >> he's a clown, marty walsh. he spends all this time and money on an olympic bid and he goes out and talking about ice bucket challenges. get a real mayor. >> michelle bernard is president of the bernard center, richard fowler a radio talk show host, liz mair. i was watching this and i'm thinking this is why trump is doing so well in the polls. this is why he's such a threat to these other republican candidates because listen to him talk about iraq. listen to him talk about the relationship between these candidates and these million dollar donors. he is saying things that people at a commonsense level start nodding their heads at. things the other candidates can't say or don't think it's safe for them to say politically. >> i was watching the press conference as someone who actually thought after the megyn kelly incident that donald trump would once again be toast. and what

paul ryan? i doubt it. are bachman and the tea party pushing republicans further to the right, threatening to divide them? i'm joined by sal russo. there's john walshnt you to look at something that was said over the weekend in iowa by congresswoman bachman. here she is. >> we know there was slavery that was still tolerated when the nation began. we know that was an evil, and it was a scourge and a blot and a stain upon our history. but we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the united states. i think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forebearers who worked tirelessly, men like john quincy adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country. >> well, i don't know what to make of that, sal. that's balloon head, that's not what our history was founded on. the it went all the way to the civil war. we had compromise after compromise, and lost 600,000 people, the worst catastrophe in our history, because slavery continued through the 1860s, and only ended because of this war, and here his this woman you've made your spokeswoman. that was th

paul. to recycle a bush seems like a backwards losing -- >> all i want them to do is run somebody i can imagine voting for. anyway, thank you very much, howard fineman. thank you, joan walsh>>> up next, on the eve of the opening of the george w. bush presidential library, we're going to be down there tomorrow, he says his relationship with dick cheney is cordial. what do you see in that? what a strange thing to say about a guy you worked with for eight years. cordial? what went on between these two. this is "hardball," the place for politics. meet the 5-passenger ford c-mc-max one. c-max two. that's a super fuel- efficient hybrid for me. and a long range plug-in hybrid for you. now, let's review. introducing the ford c-max hybrid and the ford c-max energi plug-in hybrid. say hi to the c-max hybrids. >>> so what's behind george bush and dick cheney's cordial relationship? "hardball" back after this. ♪ [ agent smith ] i've found software that intrigues me. it appears it's an agent of good. ge has wired their medical hardware with innovative software to be in many places at the same time. using data to connect patients to software, to nurses to the right people and machines.