but it's what bengie does of the howard stern show". jokes, i mean, i would be lying if i said i didn't laugh at those jokes. the whole situation, don lemon, was so absurd from start to finish, and why on earth did congressman weiner have to go make that resignation speech in front of a camera. why not write a letter? benji was at the first press conference and yelled out there, and did no one from congressman's weiner's office or from the media recognize this guy? i feel bad for the serious journalists who were covering this event that was kind of made a mockery of, but the bottom line is that is what benji does, and what the "howard stern show" does, and live cameras, man. >> and if any of us are on long enough, you will have a baba buoy moment, and that is just what benji does. so dean, i think the thing that bothers a lot of folks is when people want to laugh, they go to a club or watch a specific channel. they will go to a comedy channel. this heckler just put himself in it forcing everyone really to hear him. you know what pete ma

it became carnival like and then the howard stern guy yelling at the point. after he apologized to andrew breitbart it felt like it had worn out its stay and was time to move on. >> it takes a lot to bring the new york political media, the local media especially to absolute silence. it was a stunning thing to watch. >> maggy, thank you very much for join us. >> thank you. >>> coming up, why scandals and new york city's political past show that congressman wiener has a very good chance of surviving this controversy. >>> and the rewrite, why the justice department made the right decision in choosing to prosecute john edward for violations of federal campaign finance law and why the judge should not give him prison time if he's convicted. [ alan ] admit it, brenda. oh, c'mon, alan, i said it was great. you said i couldn't make it as easy to manage a claim online as it is on the phone, and i did. i programmed maps of local repair shops, schedule an inspection online. i win the bet, so say it. alan's a technical genius. mmm, what was that? [ alan ] my new ring ton

. >>> that heckler turns out is benjie bronc, a writer for howard stern, during yesterday's announcement she shouted out questions about his body, wiener continued his comments and appeared unfazed. >>> authorities are holding a u.s. marine after he was found in the arlington national cemetery and his car was parked near the pentagon. investigators say the red nissan belongs to a naturalized u.s. citizen from ethiopia, the bomb squad checked out the car but did not find explosives. >> arlington cemetery is closed after dark. this is why the person was being investigated. this person was taken into custody and in the course of interviewing this person the united states park police thought it was appropriate to look for a vehicle that this person may have been operating. the investigate was located by the police department. this vehicle was located near the pentagon. >> authorities also searched his home in fairfax county, virginia, and closed several roads and the pentagon, making the usually bad commute even worse this morning. >>> osama bin laden is no longer facing criminal charges. si

the resignation was in his face, hecklers, howard stern show and other folks there.sident obama recently said that he would resign if he were in weiner's position. >> here is what he is saying now in an exclusive interview with "good morning america's" robin roberts. >> i wish representative weiner and his lovely wife well. obviously, it has been a tough incident for him. but i am confident that -- they'll refocus, and he'll refocus and they'll end up being able to bounce back. >> the president has more to say about congressman weiner and his role as a father later on during his exclusive interview on "good morning america." you know, it feels like this story has become rather overexposed. is that the right way to put it? awe thought would be the right way. everybody has heard about it. some european countries a bit more liberal. >> global. >> think we are overreacting. talk about a distraction. aren't they supposed to be working for the constituents. use at hand that haven't been getting attentiontion. >> time for a lot of folks to move on. including us. >> abc news

their next step and i'd be surprised to see more i mean in many ways this is very similar to what howard stern did with satellite radio he left a certain corporate structure to wrestle radio had it into a place where it was a little bit more fellows where it was a little or specifically for him and his product and i think this is we're going to see more of this going forward so i have to ask i mean even in the case of keith olbermann for example i mean you know he's not going over to democracy now to earn whatever salaries those hard working folks are and i think he's going to be reportedly on. ten million dollars a year i mean is this really leaving the corporate structure for some new sorts of alternative media or maybe much of the old same just couched in a in a different brand well no actually i mean i think i mean i think the ten million dollar figure i'm not sure how accurate that is i know that the but out there but the difference is is that currency be privately owned it is not a corporate behemoth that is also making ball bearings or nuclear subs or some other product fox news is just

the bar is low enough in our--you know, it's howard stern low. it's very low. and so i don't want to participate in that, in the de-intellectualization of our citizenry, you know? the book you wrote with ben stiller, feel this book, which is largely kind of a parody of self-help books, also had nuggets like this: is that--it also kind of drives your career, doesn't it? you're not doing the predictable. well, see, here's the thing, though. thank you for saying that i'm not doing something predictable, because i take it as a compliment, but true radicals probably see me as the biggest, like, sellout. like, "oh, my god, that's why she's on the show, because she's the most palatable radical." do you know what i'm saying? sure. and, really, what is so radical about me? because i'm fat, you know what i mean, like, and i'm trying to be in tv? like, you know what i mean? like, or i have corduroys and sneakers on when i went to the emmys, you know what i mean? like that makes me a radical. and true radicals and true activists and true people that are out there in the tr

that happened to sirius radio when they decided to basically mortgage the earth moon and stars to howard stern and to restructure because of that you know i think they're looking at it that that's a model for the industry but i think you know i think because of the tenor of his show the product that he puts out i think bill miller together pretty well so alternative no but a good fit yes probably do you know anything as you know much about al gore's partner in this venture as to you know are saying it and maybe isn't coming on live all chorus pocket but what about the other people involved i'm not really so sure about the corporate structure there again i don't know where they got the money from i mean if somebody is bentley probably has a new car note on it at this point but i mean i don't really know where they got the money from because they're going to suck the money away from the stuff that's made them a name like vanguard like they're investigative documentaries they're going to have a problem i guess we'll have to wait to see if that's actually and that being worth it for that but he th

he found himself trying to all outshout antler >> the intruder turned out to be a writer for howard sternongressman wieners troubles started when an a photo was released. he claimed it was a hoax. as more pictures and a merged it was forced to change his story >> it was clear was a picture of maine. i have sent voters to about six winter in the past years. gloria allred said she was glad that he had resigned he has no one to blame but himself. his wife returned from an overseas trip yesterday. >> good news is were going to stay drying temperatures are going to be cool. this is a shot of downtown san francisco patchy coastal fog. temperatures similar to yesterday. this is all look at current temperatures around the area. we're off to what cooler start there in temperatures in the 60 along the east bay area 78 degrees in san ramon. south bay temperatures will stay in the '70s and 8077 in santa clara. good news is it's not going to allow us long. temperatures are gone a callback into the '80s on sunday and then continued to get warmer for the rest of the week. temperatures expected to go up

but i mean -- this is almost like when howard stern left radio and went to satellite. kill you." >> jimmy: right. >> but, you know, when you begin to think that maybe some ramification is going to occur based on what you say on the air every night, you do some self-editing. you worry about it. you worry what's going to happen next. and you wind up sort of censuring yourself. >> jimmy: yeah. >> and i didn't want to be in that position, so this opportunity arose. and here i am and i'm now management. >> jimmy: i mean, yeah, you're management now. and you work for al gore. >> i do. >> jimmy: did you ever think that would happen? >> actually, when they started that network, i thought that would be a great place to work. and then they decided to go with kind of like a youtube format. and then youtube happened. so there wasn't anything to go in that direction. they went off instead to finally get to the place where it makes sense for me to be working with them. and it's great. >> jimmy: and how familiar will people be with the set or the format? is it much different? >> it's

at the same time, maybe it was too much for me, as howard stern said to me yesterday, maybe it was too much for me that i had had such a -- sort of volatile upbringing with my dad and had kind of got involved with a man who was maybe equally as volatile but very different, let's just make that real clear. very different. >> what's your love life these days? >> i don't have a love life. i'm happy like that. >> zero? >> zero. >> are you looking? >> no. i'm very driven to kind of make up for lost time and get my -- >> what kind of man do you think now you ought to be with? >> maybe a gentle, smart, loving person. not to say that john wasn't

on howard stern? that. >> i'm sensitive. i wish i was less sensitive. >> so, something was said and didn't sit too well with you, ryan. >> they didn't say exactly. they just said don't listen to it. >> okay. >> what is it that pulled you guys apart 25 years ago? i know you have different sides to the story. so -- >> well, then let's hear mine. >> perfect. i'm perfect with that. >> ryan, you want to go first? >> what's your side? yeah, tell everybody your side. >> why you were estranged for 25 years. >> pride. in one word. i thought i had all the pride. it turned out, no. there's someone with more than me. and that was -- that broke our communication, which was vital to any relationship. we didn't have it. and so, we drifted. we drifted away from each other. unhappily, of course. there was always something wrong with my life without her in it. and -- >> and true of you, too. >> and it's less now. it's -- it's challenging. but it's worth it to see her back in the fold. >> and have her back in -- >> have

at the same time, maybe i t was too much for me, as howard stern said to me yesterday, maybe it was tood had such a -- sort of volatile upbringing with my dad and had kind of got involved with a man who was maybe equally as volatile but very different, let's just make that real clear. very different. >> what's your love life these days? >> i don't have a love life. i'm happy like that. >> zero? >> zero. >> are you looking? >> no. i'm very driven to kind of make up for lost time and get my -- >> what kind of man do you think now you ought to be with? >> maybe a gentle, smart, loving person. not

and of course a howard stern prankster which explains some of the noise you're about to hear. >> i'm here today to again apologize for the personal mistakes i have made and the embarrassment i have caused. i make this apology to my neighbors and my constituents, but i make it particularly to my wife huma. today i am announcing my resignation from congress. so my colleagues can get back to work, my neighbors can choose a new representative, and most importantly that my wife and i can continue to heal from the damage i have caused. >> weiner stepped down before the house possibly voted to censure or ex spell him before the ethics committee voted before it even issued a report and without any evidence he broke any laws. he ate parentally didn't get physical with his online partners, never even met them. same with chris lee who posted this shot at craig's list earlier this year in search of companionship. he wan gone in four hours. on the other hand, senator larry craig arrested allegedly cruising the men's restrooms. remember his exkuz he had a wide stance. he plead guilty to misdemeano

. >> i want to ask you during the news conference, a guy working for the "howard stern show" startedworse? have we reached a level where serious events have gone to a whole new level? is it -- should it be stopped? >> i do have to say that he himself was the one who brought the dialogue, the public conversation down to this level. his exchanges, which have been published, they seem like those of a hormonal teenage boy. he's acting in an immature fashion. to me it was like instant can karma. should it be stopped? this is a free society. part of the problem with that is not everybody shouting questions is shouting an intelligent question. but i think you would do more damage to try to control public news conferences by trying to we. d out people. who is going to decide what is appropriate or inappropriate. i think it's unfortunate, but we're in a america and people can scream out vulgar things if they want. >> let's talk about the casey anthony case. speaking of theatrics, the defenses has turned to present its case. one, did the prosecution succeed or fail in its efforts to prove that

having prostate surgery, and listening to howard stern, i'm immune to the giggle factor and that's healthy. in munich, you'll see people naked. we all have them. it's puritanical childish nature we have about sex in america that we see in media coming out that makes this an important story. i love gawker dearly but for gawker to say this is an important story, come on. it's a chance for a lot of jokes. the person who usually produces these kind of stories best is jon stewart. >> who had a lot of fun with that this week as well. on this question, you say the coverage is sophomoric. let me play for you a couple different commentators and journalist having a little fun with it. >> the long and short of it is over the weekend you discovered that a photo of a man's crotch was sent to one of your twitter followers. when did you first hear about this? >> you didn't just introduce that by saying the long and the short of it, did you? >> is weinergate big enough to investigate? the weinergate story to me seems like it's hard to swallow. >> the longer you look at the picture, especially the unpixel

howard stern's show producer. are we looking at the mayor? we are. okay. gary dell abate.en just last week nba star john wall. i guess that's why he's in the nba and not the mlb. unfortunate. you cannot have an excuse to throw a bad pitch after looking at this. look at this. a performer from cirque du soleil got the job done with a little flare in san diego last night. he starts with a crazy flip, he lands that, then he throws a perfect strike right down the middle. all the ladies there are like what's he doing? we're not really paying attention to where the ball ends up. nice to look at there. >> that will wake you up. i've seen mike inouye do the same exact trick before he grabs his clicker and gives it a toss. good morning to you. he doesn't need that clicker. he knows what's going on. let me show you what's going on in our world of weather. tale of two sides of the bay this morning. this is san jose. you can see the leading edge of that front coming in, what we can see of it. let's show you the golden gate bridge. where they are also not seeing the heavy rain yet. but

way into a career-ending crisis bowed to the political pressures, some hecklers, one from the howard stern show, practically drown him out. >> today i'm announcing my resignation from congress. >> yea! pervert! >> so my colleagues can get back to work, my neighbors can choose a new representative and most importantly that my wife and i can continue to heal from the damage i have caused. >>. [ indistinct shouting ] >> looking back, should the media have tweeted this stuff for three long weeks as the most important story in america. joining us to talk about that and the sudden spotlight being trained on michele bachmann, jennifer ruben author of "the washington post" white turn black, julia mason from politico, in boston, john avlon, cnn contributor and columnist for "the daily beast." >> this proposition, agree or disagree. anthony weiner resigned, not because of barack obama and nancy pelosi. that was a factor, but because the media simply would not let this story go and there was no other way for him to stop the bleeding. >> it's so true. the new york media is so intense. that's a force u

howard stern said to me yesterday, maybe it was too much for me that i had had such a volatile upbringingth my dad and kind of get involved with a man who was maybe equally as volatile but very different. let's just make that real clear, very different. >> what's your love life like these days? >> i don't have any love life. i'm happy that way. >> zero, no man at all? >> no. >> you looking for another man? >> no, i'm not. i think i'm really driven to make up for lost time and -- >> what kind of a man do you think now you ought to be with? >> maybe

as howard stern said to me yesterday, maybe it was too much for me that i had had such a sort of volatile dad and to kind of get involved with a man who was maybe equally as volatile but very different. let's just make that real clear. very different. >> what's your love life like these days? >> oh, i don't have any love life. i'm happy like that. >> zero? >> zero.

as howard stern said to me yesterday, maybe it was too much for me that i had had such a sort of volatilewith my dad and to kind of get involved with a man who was maybe equally as volatile but very different. let's just make that real clear. very different. >> what's your love life like these days? >> oh, i don't have any love life. i'm happy like that. >> zero? >> zero. >> no man at all? are you looking for a man? >> no, i'm really not. i don't think i will. but i think right now i'm very driven to kind of make up for lost time. >> what kind of man do you think now you ought to be with? >> maybe a gentle, smart, loving person. not to say that john wasn't those things, but maybe sody

>> there were reporters in the crowd as well as supporters and, of course, a howard stern bringster which explains some of the noise you're about to hear. >> i'm here today to apologize for the personal mistakes that i have made and the embarrassment i have caused. i make this apology to my neighbors and my constituents but i make it particularly to my wife houma. today i'm announcing my resignation from congress. >> yeah. bye-bye, pervert. >> so my colleagues can get back to work. my neighbors can choose a new representative. >> better than you. >> and most importantly that my wife and i can continue to heal from the damage i have caused. >> weiner stepped down before the house possibly voted to censure oh, pell him, before the ethics committee voted, before it even issued a report with no evidence that he even broke any laws. he apparently didn't get physical with his online partners, never met them. seem with weiner's republican colleague chris lee who posted this shot on craigslist earlier this year looking for companionship and then there was larry craig in the bathroom stall. he ple

. >> the heckler is benji bronc, a writer for shock jock howard stern. during yesterday's announcement, he shouted out questions about the reporter's body. weiner continued on with his speech and appeared unphased. >>> time now is 7:49. san francisco senator barbra boxer will make a speech habit the u.s. role in afghanistan. she'll be making that speech at the world affairs council of northern california. the obama administration is announcing plans to redeploy troops in afghanistan next month. >>> phillip and nancy garrido are waking up in state prisons this morning for the kidnap and rape of jaycee duggard. phillip will likely have some notorious neighbors as he serves his life sentences, expected to be in the same unit as charles man son. both men are being kept away from the prison population for their own safety. >>> looking ahead, governor brown promises he'll move heaven and earth to get a new state budget. the $10 billion deficit facing everybody in california. >>> plus terrifying moments at a park after a child gets his head stuck between two co

he has shoulder length black curly hair and he looks like some combination of howard stern and the biblical solomon or the biblical something like that. a crazy guy. our catcher was this wild man from australia. my best friend who was a pitcher on the team was the first israeli to play divisional baseball than the united states. so a neat little cast of characters there. one of the guys who was probably my best friend are closest to it, the first guy he met out of everybody in the entire league was a guy named jeff hastings and he was also a teacher. it was neat to be the first guy i met in the last guy would say goodbye to is my friend jeff. in the book i mentioned to myself not disparaging way, my brother and i joke around about being a redneck jewish boys. that sounds kind of funny but my grandma was born on a working cattle ranch and my mom is jewish from new york. our parents thought it was important to expose us to both sides come both traditions and that was a really good thing. i think they did you write that because of that going to israel i got to not only explore who i was, but w

caller: i think the unemployment rate can be solved by howard stern.ost: will go to jeanne, in waldorf, maryland. caller: there is such a big deal made about the $14.83 trillion debt. what is never discussed is the over-the-, or derivative market, which is largely not regulated, and the fact that when the crisis had us, there were two auditors at the sec, and the auditors at the sec, and the republican penchant for a be regulation and the auditors. if you cut staffing positions in the irs, and staffing positions , medicare, medicaid, the private companies on the stock exchange do have those auditors, you are putting the government at a disadvantage. host: will get a response. guest: actually, the terror of this market has been a key focus. it can't reach the derivatives market has been a key focus. -- in the derivatives market has been a key focus. many are worried that the rules will be onerous. warren buffett was reduced to the market as weapons of mass destruction, particularly with the insurance issues aig got into. that said, he backed off because

he's got shoulder length black curly hair he looks like a combination of howard stern and the biblical solomon and the biblical moses or something like that. crazy guy. our catcher was a wild man from australia and my best friend who was a pitcher was the first israeli to play division one baseball in the united states so i need a little cast of characters there. one of the guys who is probably my best friend or closest of the free but the in the league was jeff hastings and he was also a teacher. the first guy i met and the last guy i would say goodbye to with my friend, jeff. so in the book and mengin with myself not disparagingly we broke about being a red neck jubilees and that sounds kind of funny but my grandma was born on the working ranch, my mom is a jew from new york's we were brought up with books to expose us to both sides, both traditions, and there was a good thing i think they did it right but because of that coming to israel i got to not only explore why was as a pro but as a jew as well and that was important to me as well. so this next passage i'm going to read to you

there were two hecklers i saw, but the prime one was from the howard stern show.im earlier at the news conference when anthony weiner came out to say he was lying, he was there as well. >> thanks, mary. >>> 7:30 eastern we're going to talk about weiner's resignation, distraction and damage it caused in politics and where he goes from here, joined by a strategi strategist, keke mcclain, and presidential adviser robert traynham. >> leaders of germany and france say there's no time to lose when it comes to securing a rescue plan for greece. that country is facing a financial crisis unlike any it's dealt with before. it could default on its debt and trigger other european economies to go under as well. in recent days, thousands of greeks have taken to the streets in athens. they are outraged over the budget cuts that the government says are needed to secure that bailout. >>> a new york senate vote on a same-sex marriage bill could come as early as today and this morning we're hearing surprising words from one of its republican supporters. the senate is split, 31-31. t

howard stern, rush limbaugh, the celtic -- self-help industry, the 80s, think about what the self-help industry is it focuses on the sell. what does this look like today in our politics? the deification of the individual? the politics started with a lot of thing that came out of ronald reagan's administration. one example, the idea of the unitary executive comes out of ronald reagan. anything is in the national interests. the nation looked with concern when no matter what the president does is legal, couple years later ronald reagan was saying this to great fanfare and in our presidential politics this metastasizes into stuff like this. you have george bush and nobody blinks an eye when he says god wants me to be president or he says i am the commander, somebody wants to explain to me why they say something but i don't know anyone an explanation for anything. also becomes barack obama. we have similar examples. this is a direct quote. i am a better speech writer than my speech writers and i know more than my policy directors and i am a better political director than my political direct

press conference in new york on a sex scandal, i mean, you're guaranteed to have a hecklers and howard stern wanna bes there and a couple of drag queens show up and he had a circus. it should have been done with statement. in fact, from the beginning from his lying to the press and berating to the media for not believing his lies this has been an exercise and complete confidence. >> would he still be in congress? >> i can't say. i can tell you if he had told the truth from the beginning he would have had a chance to ride this out and a chance to somehow retain some credibility and some trust. but when he lied from the beginning, and not just to the media, but to his colleagues, to his constituents to his supporters, he lost all trust and credibility going forward and that really did him in. >> been a lot of talk about the hypocrisy here. senator vitter's name has been thrown around the past three weeks. is there a little bit of hypocrisy with this situation? >> when it comes to these stories a lot of hypocrisy on both sides of the story. the senator from louisiana got caught in a prosecution

howard stern, rush limbaugh and as i mentioned before the self-help industry. that is tony robbins. 80's saw huge growth in the self-help industry and when we think about the self help industry as it is focus on the self. and what did this look like today in our politics? the deification of the individual? i think in our politics it started with a lot of the things that came out of ronald reagan's administration. one of the key things and one example, the idea of the unitary executive. that comes right out of ronald reagan. he said anything we do is in our national interest. that is a direct quote from our reagan. that happened just a couple of years after the nation looked with concern when richard nixon said whatever the president does is legal. just a couple of years later ronald reagan was famous to great fanfare and in our presidential politics this metastasizes into stuff like this. you get george bush now and nobody blanks and i or not enough people blink an eye when he says things like this. god wants me to be president or when he says i'm the commander. somebody needs to ex

. >> he could work for howard stern. >> thanks, guys. >>> there may be a thief in your house and, wellthief that you're probably thinking of. we're talking about an energy thief. believe it or not, a study shows how much energy you're wasting on your cable box and dvr. alison kosik with the details. is it that much? really? >> you know how much, kyra, $2 billion a year. that's just when these boxes aren't being used. even when you're not recording or watching anything, the dvr is still on and using full power. how much? take a look. a dvr uses more than half the energy of a fridge. it also uses more than a 42 inch lcd tv and the cable box uses the same as the lcd tv as well. there's a catch 22. you can shut the box off. the problem is your shows aren't going to record. if you do have a chance to power down the system, it will consume less energy and there's usually a way to set most of those consoles to power down automatically after they've been sitting idle for a period of time. kyra? >> let's hit this wild week for the markets? up 100 points one day, down nearly 200 the next. now ba

. >> he certainly -- at the news conference before he got drowned out by the heckler from the howard stern show, and he could certainly run for something. elliott spitzer ended up with a primetime television show on cnn. he needs to step out of the spotlight now. we all have heard and seen a little bit too much of anthony weiner, but i believe he can come back once a decent amount of time passed. >> as far as aknow, what happens to his now empty seat? >> well, the question is whether that seat in brooklyn and queens is going to continue to exist. new york state is losing two commercial seats to redistricting, and i think that seat, where my mother lives by the way, and she was prepared to vote for anthony weiner again, even though she was disgusted by what happened she said he was a good congressman. if not, governor cuomo has to decide to put on a costly special election to fill it. >> you have heard about the job to work at hustler? >> i would say the chances of weiner to accept that job is slim. and his first job is to repair his marriage. his wife has not uttered a word, not even a one

caller: do you think howard stern = = -- host: jersey on the independent line.r: as we saw with the airlines, there was big talk about pilots not getting enough sleep, and they were forced to work 18 hour days, flying when they were not sufficiently slept. are you would advocate, and do you foresee any rules or laws coming into play regarding drivers who drive a bus full of people or individuals into a casino, wait there for six to eight hours, drive home in the middle of the knights, and not he ly rested-- od -- in te middle of the night and not fully rested. what is your issue on this? when you take a trip on the airline, you anticipate the faa has done their job to make sure the airline and plane is safe to be on. that is the same sort of action we need. there are very specific rules for bus drivers. the hours of service rules require dugan only drive 10 hours and there has to be rest time between your duty status. it is very difficult to know what a driver might be doing in his or her free time. all companies are required to maintain those drivers requiremen

caller: i think the unemployment rate can be solved by howard stern. host: will go to jeanne, in waldorf, maryland. caller: there is such a big deal made about the $14.83 trillion debt. what is never discussed is the over-the-, or derivative market, which is largely not regulated, and the fact that when the crisis had us, there were two auditors at the sec, and the auditors at the sec, and the republican penchant for a be regulation and the auditors. if you cut staffing positions in the irs, and staffing positions , medicare, medicaid, the private companies on the stock exchange do have those auditors, you are putting the government at a disadvantage. host: will get a response. guest: actually, the terror of this market has been a key focus. it can't reach the derivatives market has been a key focus. -- in the derivatives market has been a key focus. many are worried that the rules will be onerous. warren buffett was reduced to the market as weapons of mass destruction, particularly with the insurance issues aig got into. that said, he backed off becau

on whether the feds will pay for his lawyer, two lawyers stood up, kevin -- a number of max stern and howard cooper's stood up and said they would represent bulger before the court, but the judge has to rule whether he is indigent. they put off a hearing until thursday to make some possible ruling. there was no -- so that was the big thing that happened today. and there was -- also some talk about leaks. the judge wants to crack down on leaks regarding the case from the federal investigators. and the judge asked federal investigators to make sure there are no leaks regarding bulger's statements and information. >> let me ask you about this other news item that's come down. the federal prosecutors are dropping the '94 case that led to the racketeering indictment. they're focusing on the charges alleging he was involved in 19 murders. are you surprised by that? >> no, i'm not. the 1994 case focusing more on racketeering, that appears to be small potatoes, compared to him involving or executing people orrding the executions of people this they want to have the victims have their chance for just