they are talking about making sure that every venue had the same language, looking venue. wd idea, it is uniform, people see it. not only in north beachx%gsj maybe city wide. the next is temporary taxis jones in and around clubs on the weekends. it is 2:00 in the morning. it is hard to get a cab. if we could put in temporary tax rezones friday and saturday night, it would be easier for people to find cabs to and from then use. last, more light. i know we talked about cities, areas where there is a lot of venues packed into a few blocks. they will actually bring in temporary light towers. the last thing is organization. as venues, it is really important that you come together, whether it be in cmac, or your smaller organizations, so you can work together, have one voice to work with city government. >> that is a perfect segue. i was in the group with south of market, bayview. we talked a lot about organization, communication with the police department's. something that i wrote down that i did not even know, if you feel like you need to call the police, you should. if you do

it does not take the place for venues and venue owners, managers, to choose their promoters likely -- to choose their performers -- promoters cautiously. you are still running around bar and security team. those are required. so, the answer is no. ok? >> [inaudible] >> it is not capable of editorial. i do none know that that would be a good thing, necessarily. it speaks to the need for you guys to speak to one another as well. because this is a person business, out of people business, we would be in an awkward position. and as always, as you might remember, this commission was a big experiment. this is also an experiment of sorts. we have never done this before, a way to know who is out there and somehow we will give you feedback in the process. >> [inaudible] >> white. let's -- >> right. >> [inaudible] >> maybe we should put this up here, somewhere link. we should probably do that. it is a fairly specific nightclub promoter definition. it is not supposed to be people in the park singing happy birthday to each other. it is very specific. we do not want to make it such that it starts w

it is a small venue. only 1200 square feet including the kitchen. >> no one paid me personally to do anything in her part. there are occasional one night permits she is done. it is very lengthy so she can have some of these birthday parties, that is what she is talking about. president newlin: any other questions by the commission? any public comment? my the concern is if we keep getting these places of entertainment that are so good that will put [unintelligible] out of work. >> i am the building owner along with my brother. we have owned the building for over 12 years and had a couple of tenants down there and during that time, i have not had one complaint from my residence upstairs. i have not had any petitions from the city telling me to make sure the garbage cans are brought in off the sidewalk. debbie has been nothing but a model tenant, she has run nothing but a complete professional operation. being born and raised in the city and being older than i look, i have seen how sometimes the city has enc

they are talking about making sure that every venue had the same language, looking venue. wd idea, it is uniform, people see it. not only in north beachx%gsj maybe city wide. the next is temporary taxis jones in and around clubs on the wnd

they are talking about making sure that every venue had the same language, looking venue. wd idea, it is uniform, people see it. not only in north beachx%gsj maybe city wide. the next is temporary taxis jones in and around clubs on the weekends. it is 2:00 in the morning. it is hard to get a cab. if we could put in temporary tax rezones friday and saturday night, it would be easier for people to find cabs to and from then use.

i think the the venue deserves people like this. i hope you give them that chance. they are solid from what i can see. >> [gavel] >> president chiu: good afternoon, welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors meeting f >> good evening. i would like to clarify the comments made by the proposed applicants. we did meet with them, we were very disturbed about what w they had to say. we saw their menu. it is like a bar snacks menu and they told us they would be reducing that and i do not know what they're going to serve that is less than what i have. it would be a bag of potato chips, maybe. president mazzucco: looking at the same menus i am looking at? >> these were presented to us. they never changed -- unless they changed. president mazzucco: i want to make sure we're on the same page. >> the largest item was a hamburger. president mazzucco: there is two pages there. >> right. they would be reducing this. this is permitted as a full- service restaurant. not a bar, and it is not a nightclub. what we are requesting, we stand united in asking that this entertainmen

you are in your venue all of the time. when you are not there, you go home and are with your dog, or whenever. obviously, i want you to meet each other. breakouts, i will try to create four if we can. two groups. one will be in the small room. i was going to try to do two on either side of this room. do your best. there will be someone in the group to redo what we can. this is great. thank you for coming. i really appreciate it. [applause] arewebcastinwe are webcasting . supercool, i think. to do that well, we need to be amplified a bit. i know that we lost some folks. nick, did you take notes? what i wanted to do was have you come up here. we were all in different groups and hopefully we have things to learn from each group. quickly, because i know it is getting late, vaj, do you have your notes? did we wind up with four or three? this seemed like a great session. we do have another microphone, if there are questions that come up. but i think that these will be closing comments. >> you can correct me, if you heard somethi

in the development of the america's cup venue. what this describes in brief is that we have completed and have operational the power hookups at 27 and 29. because it will also use that same venue, the port is also looking at removing it for temporary periods, and the terminal itself, the shell, will be reconstructed. there will be demolition of the existing pier structure, reconstruction of the pier and once the america's cup is over, it will be used as the terminal for the cruise ships. during that construction time and the use of the shell of the building, the power component will not be operational. it will need to be removed. we met our obligations in that partnership project and expects to continue to partner with them as it gets three developed and posts in the construction of the terminal used by america's cup . >> that will be when? >> demolition is expected to occur in january of 2012 at pier 27. the new cruise terminal will start construction in the spring of 2012. the show is expected to be complete by december of 2012,

and another is how engaged is the public sand a meeting venue the only venue and what other venues are better at reaching people. a couple of interesting findings and these focus on additional strategist and people wasn't more online forums and ways to engage and interact online and be able to contribute or give public comment online or have a dialogue and in person meetings with a strong sendment towards smaller groups so whether that is a big break-out group to have a conversation or a smaller focus group that is in a more intimate setting with a specific population or at a meeting and a standing meeting where you have more intimate setting and can delve into the issues and the desire for more survey and other ways to participate beyond public meetings as well. we did find that people appreciate and like public meetings and the format might be where we make changes. and public hearingsed a the sole way of getting involved, they really want that up front, early engagement as a supplement to the public hearing. and we also asked staff to tell us more about the existing resources around

i know we talked about cities, areas where there is a lot of venues packed into a few blocks. they will actually bring in temporary light towers. the last thing is organization. as venues, it is really important that you come together, whether it be in cmac, or your smaller organizations, so you can work together, have one voice to work with city government. >> that is a perfect segue. i was in the group with south of market, bayview. we talked a lot about organization, communication with the police department's. something that i wrote down that i did not even know, if you feel like you need to call the police, you should. if you do not feel at 911 is appropriate, use 553-0123. i did not know that. that is a direct line where you can get an ambulance. we also talked about -- the commander talked about -- your relationship with your police officer. the captain said he intends to start a monthly meeting with the nightclub owners at the station. he does not want security. he wants to meet with the owners of the night clubs once a month. that is a fantastic idea. i want to plug th

be complete by december of 2012, and it is that show that will be used by american's cup for that venue. and the completion of the events, the cruise terminal short of power will be reinstalled in the fall to winter of 2013. and we will have the cruise terminal, the park and landscaped area around it, finishing off the improvements and complete the spring of 2014. we'll be opening the cruise terminal with power reinstalled by march of 2014. >> it will be two years not operational. >> there was a concern about how long that was going to take, so the march of 2014, they are trying to speed that up. the races are september of 2013. you can only speed it up so far. >> we have one speaker card. >> i am program director, a marine conservation and public health advocacy organization. i am here, first of all, to thank you for reviewing the staff of the project at the pier is 27 and 29. i follow the process very closely and there was a huge amount of support for the environmental community for the project and for the public funding. i've personally attended the unveiling of that property by 2010

he says combining the small venue with the number was just too much. >> large fight where is we wouldhave to call for help from our department and san jose to come down. >> you still see one of a kind places like on fourth and just below. spartan still owns a beer license but says it will stay in the past for now. >> the demand just isn't there. the last year we sold alcohol in the cafeteria sold a total of $2,000 worth of alcohol in the entire year. >> so even though it is more than just an afterthought students today have their own spartan pub and it is not like getting there is a journey away either. update news. >>> we have jonathan halverson here. >> student versus been working hard on their -- students have been working hard on their movie. >> many film makers is the next best thing. tuesday night marked the finale of campus movie night, out of 130 submitted, 16 were shown. awards were given for the best actor and actress as well as drama, comedy. he is happen approximate i with the success of familiar movie fest at san jose. >> it comes back to the idea that everybody has a sto

. >> belva: wonderful programs and venues all over the city.ew concept for me when i first found out how jazz would operate because you're used to going to new york where people stay in one venue. was this difficult for you to get people used to the idea that you could have a festival and didn't have it like monterrey. >> how people think, monterrey or new port and temperature idea that you're going to be in one place for a weekend. what we did was a little defere deferent. what would an urban festival be like. really it's more like a performing arts service come presed into a festival period of time. we launch our new project in building our own place. we're going to be back to one place again. we've really taken advantage of all the jewels of the bay area and trying to match the performers with the appropriate venue. >> what are names of people my age that you would recognize that you are booking, and what are the names that are going to be drawing the big crowd for the new people. >> ahmed jamal. then brad melvow. a duo. >> what are you goin

will be, spectator venues. i think we heard plenty of comments on those fronts so we are working to develop the appropriate set of answers to make that the whole picture come together. >> do you have an idea how much has been spent on this so far? >> how much the city has spent? under this year's budget there was an proposition of $12 million to match the incoming $12 million. we have spent i would say approximately $3 million to $4 million thus far. that is from a wide range of activities including staff time and environmental review and another consultant related to that. that is where we're at this point. we foresee that over the course of the full set of planning activities we would likely use th that, use a larger amount of that in this fiscal year but it is not clear until we have gone through those processes further. >> you said you had $12 million to match kerry's? >> it is not a match. >> it is eventually adjust set. >> exactly. >> [inaudible] continue with the event but use public funds? >> the decisi

nightclub venues can prepare for the numbers of people coming to visit san francisco and be ready to take advantage of it as much as possible. i think that is probably plenty for you. we have a long calendar. we now have a quorum. i can hand it over. do you want to highlight anything in the reports that you have given to the commission? >> just a few. i will keep its super short. just as we said, you are seeing incident reports, citations, and anchovy warnings -- and nov warnings. this gives you a pretty accurate impression of the last month. you will see an increase in notices of violation over the past few months, and also some citations. we have been out in the city, getting in the public more traction in certain areas, working with police department units. i would like to think we are getting a little bit more done. every year, oracle does a large group concert at treasure island. we went and did sound tests. it was great. we had no complaints this year. this was the first year. the sound of the event was totally contained. we took measurements all over the island. it was great.

for a complete list of the most popular wedding venues, log on to our web site, wjla.com.ws. >>> the newest barbie is stirring up controversy. tattoo barbie as multiple tattoos and is inspired over japanese fashion. they do not want their daughters influenced by this. mattel says the doll is designed for collectors. you can imagine this topic is hot on our facebook page tonight. "it is not being marketed it to adults. mattel should be ashamed." "how is this any different than the tattoo wrestling figures are acting figures that boys play wet?" -- play with?" >> an interesting debate. let's see what is coming up on abc7 news at 6. >> gordon peterson as live with a look ahead. >> a fine day in hanover county. the little boy alone in the woods for six days found alive. a live report from hanover county coming up at 6. a little early but we cannot stop winter. road crews are preparing for the first snow event of the season. snow in october. those and more, and maureen and i will see you at 6. >> let's get some more information from doug hill with the latest. >>> we discussed a

. -- the high line has become a venue for all manner of events. >> it slows people down. the one of the secrets of his success. -- of its success. ♪ >> the report from the city that never sleeps and the new place that people can start to get away from it all. that brings today's broadcast to a close. you can always get constant updates on our website. to find out what we're working on, make sure to check out our facebook page. from all of us, thank you for watching and see you back here tomorrow. >> make sense of international news at bbc.com/news. >> funding was made possible by the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vermont, and honolulu. newman's own foundation. union bank. and shell. >> this is kim - about to feel one of his favorite sensations. at shell, we're developing more efficient fuels in countries like malaysia that can help us get the most from our energy resources. let's use energy more efficiently. let's go. >> "bbc world news america" was presented by kcet los angeles.