but -- i just don't -- i don't get it. iowers, another tulsa county inmate who served prior prison term with hill, has noticed changes in his old friend. >> i seen his picture in the paper on the case he had i didn't recognize him. man, i hate it for him, i do. i pray for him. my heart goes out to him. he needs to quit all of the knucklehead stuff, trying to hurt himself. that's not the robert i know. he -- back -- back in the day he wouldn't do that. >> now, another reported strange comment from hill has prompted the jail's consulting psychiatrist dr. harnish to see him for an assessment. >> he told one of our mental health therapists he wanted to cut his head off. we need to see how he's doing now, make sure his medicines are all right, see what we can do to help him stay alive. do remember he? i'm dr. harnish, i'm the psychiatrist. >> seems like i seen you once or twice before but i can't remember exactly where. sometimes i have problems with my memory. >> do you know what the name of this place is here? >> no, not really

i started off doing a lot of math. i liked math. i ended up studying engineering, and have done reasonably well. >> you went on to boarding school in massachusetts. how did that happen? one bedroom apartment, boarding school in massachusetts. >> yeah, by the time i was thinking of my education, the higher education, my family is already in kind of a middle income family. my father was able to study english at night, accumulate some wealth. he invested in the silk business. he said, have you thought about what your are going to study? i said, probably engineering. he said, hong kong really isn't great in engineering. have you ever thought about going overseas? that's when it piqued my interest. so i wanted to go to the ivy league. now if you go to one of those, it enhances your chances of getting into the ivy league quite a bit. a lot of bit. i went to prep school. >> that must've been quite a transition, hong kong to massachusetts prep school. >> yeah, i went from no snow to a lot of snow. it was quite a transition. it was great. it w

i mean you can say, i am so , committed that even if i lost my shirt, i will do this. does not make sense. but i thought i could make money on the phone. i hope that, by now, the industry realizes what i'm talking about. we have some great phones coming out, very cool. but it is kind of our first point of entry, or one point of our big strategy of everything secure. that is our big strategy. and so the phone is part of it. i mean, our phone is the most secure phone because of the way we make it, and the software we have. both hardware and software. and so i would like to continue to do that, but if i can be successful in it, i'm ok to work with somebody else to do it. >> blackberry's global market -- global smartphone market share peaked in 2009 at 21%. it is less than 1% now. idc predicts blackberry market share will fall another 50% this year, down to 0.3% by 2018. are you going to change the direction of that? >> i hope so. can i change it immediately? no. in many, many markets around the world, blackberry phones are still the preferred phone. i will admit that, in

i think about revelations. i think i had my own revelation standing there, receiving this award on mr. ailey's behalf. of course, looking at president obama, who is african-american, the first black president. i thought of the man who raised me, my great uncle willie horn, born 1904, died my second year of juilliard, i think of segregation, some of the things he experienced i looked out and looked at judith jamison who meant so much to little black girls who wanted to dance, there was something so significant about that moment it was overwhelming. >> charlie: lik take a look at this. this is revelations. you don't need the say anything. you feel it all. here it is. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> charlie: you have said that seeing revelations is as important as knowing who martin luther king was. >> mm-hmm. >> charlie: these are two essential things. >> yes. >> charlie: to understand america. >> absolutely. i think about martin luther king, i think about his i have a dream speech. i think about what he was really doing in that speech was hol

i started off doing a lot of math. i liked math. i started studying engineering. >> you went on to boarding school in massachusetts. how did that happen? >> by the time i was thinking of my education, the higher education, my family is already in a middle income. my father studied english at night and started to accumulate wealth. he invested in the silk business. he asked me what i wanted to study. i told him engineering. he said hong kong isn't great in engineering. i wanted to go to the ivy league. if you go to one of those, it enhances your chances. a lot. i went to prep school. >> it must've been quiet a transition. hong kong to massachusetts? >> we went from no snow to a lot of snow. it was quiet a transition. it was great. it was the best thing that ever happened to me. >> when did you learn how to code? >> i learned it in high school. this is one of those things that a lot of americans do not understand, the resources this country offers are dramatic as compared to every other country around the world. when i was in hong kong,

i know. it's okay, though. >> i know what i did to you was terrible. i cry, still cry. i don't care how many times you tell me you've forgiven me, it's there. >> i know. >> the most brutal beating of all occurred when chris was 14 years old and had snuck out of the house. >> you know, i think about that time. i mean, i see it just like it was yesterday. >> so the next day, he's at my bedroom door knocking on my bedroom door, and i open my door and he asked if he could talk to me. i told him, yeah. and he came in the room and he looked at me and he asked if he could hug me and when he went to hug me, i flinched. >> i don't know what happened. i just -- automatically i just stopped and i remember looking down at you with your hands covering your face. and it was like that light just went on. i saw the hurt that i put on you. and that's why i still cry. because that memory was what changed me to not ever want to hurt you again. and i looked at him, and i said, i'll never raise my hand to you again. >> and what means the most to me is that he never has. he never lifted a fin

i should be dead seven times by now. and i am so glad i am not. ah, maybe it would be easier to write with coke and maybe i would write better with coke. and writing well is so important to me that there is no advantage i wouldn't give myself, except that. i talk out loud all the time. i start fights with myself to see if i can get a scene going. >> what about movies? we see superhero movies greenlighted time after time after time. is that depressing? >> no. of course not. because, like i said, any time there is a lot of anything, some of it will be better than others. >> is it a golden age of movies? >> yes, because there are also great movies. the comic book movies, some of which i am a huge fan of. i don't think i could ever write one because i don't know how. but, they are what is paying for the smaller movies, the more grown-up movies. with steve jobs, i can say that this is the first time i have felt at the end of the script that i wrote exactly the movie i wanted to write. ♪ >> you are working on a big steve jobs movie. what is the latest? >

i can't count them. i mean i don't know if i infected anybody. ine that i'm pretty sure that i have. but i just don't want to think that i did, you know. it's not good. >> did you use condoms? >> well, no. no. not always. but i do try to carry them on me. when i do a lot of them have them, don't even want to wear them. they say no, you know. when i'm desperate for the next hit and that, i've got $30, $40 offered and i've got a condom and they tell me no, i'm not going to pass up the $30, $40. >> i was struck by tammy's willingness to talk honestly about her past. when she described the crimes, she almost came across to us as warning people. >> so you don't know how many men you infected, possibly infected with hiv? >> probably enough. i don't know, i can't tell you how many, because i don't know. but all i can tell you i've been with enough men that -- i hate to think that i did it, you know. >> so let's think about that, tammy. here's a chance, where were you a prostitute? why don't you talk about the area you worked as a prostitute, and from wha

>> i do. >> i agree. i agree. agree. so, you know, this preponderance of looking at the following rate of dollars being spent on healthcare, i will go back to the microcosm. can anybody even think about this? the gentle lady from new mexico talked about access, did access, did that come into your aspect? deductibles are so high that no one is using them? >> you know, if you look at the final rule last year we tried to make some accommodations to handle the deductibles. >> well, that's nice. changing around some of those, but from my standpoint when people don't get care you create a bigger problem. you know, the gentleman from maryland is aware of the aspects. it reduces access. without getting healthcare. you are aware of that situation. >> i i am aware of the situation that occurred. >> once again,, i heard people on the other side over here saying it was a transparent process. i am very well aware of having a bipartisan type of application. healthcare is a personal score. not a republican or democratic issue. it became

>> oh, that i do miss, i would have to say. icame from all over the country every day. and they would come with their friends, and their mothers, and their cousins. it was like a big deal to come to the "oprah" show, to come to chicago. >> jimmy: and then you would even have the after show and just hang out more with the audience. >> and what i loved about it is, you know, there was a time when i used to shake everybody's hands for 10 solid years, i shook everybody's hand in the audience. and then, one day i had to go to the gynecologist, and you can't get anybody to do that for you. that's the one thing you can't get somebody to do. you just cannot roll -- >> jimmy: tell me about it. [ laughter ] >> so i had to go to the doctor, myself, and when i came back, because we had two shows a day, i realized i had so much more energy. and so then i stopped doing that. signing autographs. which nobody wants an autograph anymore. they only want selfies. >> jimmy: selfies are the new autographs, yeah. >> they are the new autographs. so wha

the comic book movies, some of which i am a huge fan of. i don't think iould ever write one because i don't know how. they are what is paying for the smaller movies, the more grown-up movies. with steve jobs, i can say that this is the first time i have felt at the end of the script that i wrote exactly the movie i wanted to write. ♪ >> you are working on a big steve jobs movie. what is the latest? >> we will start shooting in a couple of months. danny boyle, who directed "slumdog millionaire," "127 hours," "trainspotting," is directing. it is not a cradle-to-grave biopic where we do a survey of his whole life. we are doing something else. i am very excited about it. >> is it still three long scenes? >> i wish i hadn't let that cat out of the bag. so i will take this opportunity to try to make up for it. no. it's not. it's a traditional biopic. it's what we call a cradle-to-grave structure where we survey his entire life. and then this happened and this happened and this happened. >> there have been so many books written about steve jobs, there has been an

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i? >> you know what i thought. >> but how was i? were caught you but you are at reason to have confidence, much more boldly that i was. -- will be than i was. i was a country boy from north carolina that came to the city and a few people thought i had potential. >> i am so proud of you. i go to sleep walking you when i wake up watching you and i am -- and i wakeud up watching you and i am very, very proud. rapturous about the -- rep dress -- wrap dress. manufactureran asked me to intern for him and he taught me everything about the printing. fabricht me about jersey . then i came to america and i thought, i should make samples and try to sell them in america. and then i did. rap topas a little wqr that came with a skirt and i turned it into a dress. idea that this would become -- there had never been a dress that has covered so many generations. so when i designed the stress, i was not even thinking -- this dress, i was not even picking up making a fashion statement. making something nice so i could sell so i could be independent. >>

week, two weeks, or -- >> no that's money i had for like three weeks. i had more. i don't know what happened to it. one of the officers ripped me off when they were slamming me on the ground. >> eventually, you're going to do right. >> i am doing right. >> i know, but you're right here with us again. again. >> that's not my fault. >> this is not the first time that roddick's been here. usually when a child comes in more than once, it's a high percentage that he will be a repeat offender again. >> i've been here like three or four times. i did a whole year in boy's school. that's why i'm so nervous right now because i don't want to go back there. like it ain't nowhere that somebody will want to be. >> more than 3,000 kids pass through the juvenile courts in lake county indiana each year. here consequences can range from a sleepless night in detention to the ultimate punishment for kids who keep coming back, boys school. >> going to indiana's boy's school or girl's school is the most restrictive placement or restrictive punishment i could give them. because you lose yo

was asked where i got the idea from killing jesus, i said i thinks inspired to write it by the holy spirit. you object to that? you object to me stating my religious beliefs as an american. >> that's your belief. but if you are suggesting that god talks to you and then you constantly every single day give your political opinion it's. >> jorge, you are drawing this real crazy arc here. look, i believe i'm inspired because i believe i'm in the christian theology. you don't believe it why do you object me saying it? why can't i say what i believe. >> thanks so much for talking to us and allowing us here in the no spin zone. >> it's a pleasure. >> i like him. directly ahead. katie couric on why americans are so fat. >> people don't realize how much added sugar and hidden sugar is in almost everything. if you look at the labels it can be very confusing. >> factor is coming right back. then it happened. every boy's dream... ...i got called up to the big leagues. i was finally a man, on my way to shaving, driving and staying up past midnight. [reddi wip sp

i mean, i could not believe that it was happening. ikay, here we go." and like the president and first lady, they were just so gracious and so amazing. and i was saying, you know, "nice to meet you, mr. president." he's like, "great to meet you too." and i was like, "okay, this is my mom." he's like, "hello, mrs. aduba. nice to meet you." and i was like, "please don't say too much." [ laughter ] he was like, "how are you?" and she was like, "fine." that's all she had to say. like, nothing. she didn't say anything else. that was it. "fine." i was like, you don't have no words of -- okay. >> seth: you finally stumped her. i'm assuming, because you play such an iconic part, you film here in new york, you're walking around new york, do people call you out? do people know you from the show now? >> oh, yes. and they know -- they will just yell "crazy eyes." they'll be like either, "hey, crazy eyes! yeah, you, crazy eyes!" you know, whatever. or like -- >> seth: that's so crazy for people who don't watch the show, to watch people just screamin

i was a food worker. when i -- i was so impoverished that i couldn't afford a car so i rode a bicycle everywhere. i had to ride it on the highways. when i went to work from time to time i get scars, i get burns, i get cuts. some of the scars on my body still have not healed, it's opinion, like, 14 years. i think at this rate we might just need a ballot initiative so that people can get a living wage at the airport. i've been to an airport -- you might get a bottle of juice or something and it's, like, $3. i'm just very troubled that people cannot get a living wage at the airport. i figured you'd get more money because you have to go through security, metal detectors, et cetera, et cetera, i figured more money for them. i guess there's certain side effects that people can acquire by working in the food industry. when i was in the food industry when i did not think, i just reacted. something happened, low on this, react. low on that, react. people is cooking the food. i am just -- it's very troubling that people cannot

>> i never thought about what i wanted to be. iean, i just thought that -- everybody at the time, because of the war and because of what happened historically to china and so forth -- everybody wants the kids to be scientists. that is the hong kong way. everybody becomes an engineer or mathematician, doctors, just professionals, so you can have a good life. i started off doing a lot of math. i liked math. i ended up studying engineering, and have done reasonably well. >> you went on to boarding school in massachusetts. how did that happen? in one bedroom apartment, boarding school in massachusetts. >> by the time i was thinking of my education, the higher education, my family is already in kind of a middle income family. my father was able to study english at night, and accumulated some wealth. he invested in the silk business. he said, have you thought about what your are going to study? i said, probably engineering. he said, hong kong really isn't great in engineering. have you ever thought about going overseas? that's when it pi

>> i think this is--this could go big. >> right. i think what i saw there is you believe in the product, but they don't believe in your partnership. >> right. >> what happens if they just left here today, and they went and started somewhere else? >> i would--i would take--as a shareholder of the firm, i would take issue with that tactic. >> but what would be your claim? they left. they're employees. they quit. >> but if they did leave and they started something else, that would hurt the firm. >> dane, slavery was outlawed a long time ago. they don't have to stay here. sweet pete's has an amazing product. i love it. but with this toxic partnership, i need to be mindful in how i'm investing in this deal. i have to come up with a deal that resolves their past issues and definitely minimizes their interaction. if i can get them to agree, we're all gonna make a lot of money. well, yesterday was interesting. in all my years of doing business, i have never, ever seen, ever, more passion from one person in my entire life. the one thing that's obvious to m

when i took the photo and i looked at the screen on my camera, i knew i had something special, but i pected it to get that much attention whatsoever. i mean, my plan was just to post it on instagram and for my online friends to see. but when i was at hole and on my laptop i knew i had something powerful and a message behind it that i wanted people to see. that's when i went to the "oregonian." and they published it like a day later, and that's when it went viral in less than like 48 hours. >> there were thousands of people around you at this ferguson rally in downtown portland. what was happening around you, and how did sergeant and devonte hart catch your attention? >> yeah. so i mean, i arrived there, and there -- yeah. a lot of people are protesting peacefully. and i was walking around, taking pictures, and then i was walking across the street, and i saw devonte. and he was talking to someone else. and tears were running down his face. and he turned around, and i saw him holding a sign that said "free hugs." and from that point on i knew there was something special about him becaus

i don't think i will do this. and i -- >> none of us wants to think that we would do this. >> right? and that's it. i think for me and the audience, i will hope that people would look at nina and think, would i do that? it's a hard world out there now. and it's interesting because i've had discussions with women and men. it's not always age specific or jenner specific. sometimes women not her plight better than, say, maybe men. not all the time. and less than older women who are facing these issues. yeah, you're right. i think there will be people in the audience going, wow, i did that, i crossed that boundary myself, i did this or that. i think fear and desoperate, i think you do thing that you wouldn't or nearly do if you were under that pressure. >> let me jump to the real life of rene russo. share confidences or tell me something your husband doesn't know. what have you learned, though? i wrestled with this watching the film myself. >> right. >> because this film has -- your husband did a great job. the film raises

i look at the plans. i study them. i know which story is available five years before the lease comes due. i look at all the plans in manhattan, and i don't see anyway. russia has been taken out of it, over the last year, as you know. a lot of russian that is were buying these apartments are no longer buying these apartments. they have bigger problems. frankly, i don't see anyway they are going to do it. now that's an opportunity for you. and it's an opportunity for me. a very known developer came to build a site to build a 100-story building on the site. i don't love the site, but it is good. the great always works. the good doesn't always work in real estate. he had a 90 story building, 100 story building. he wanted to sell it to me. i've been through great, great times, but i had to fight like crazy to keep everything going. i said, you know, you do it because i don't have the guts any more to do it. he said, i promise i won't tell anybody you said that. but it is true. i see the market will be over-saturated. >> let m

i was saying. do you know what i mean? when i did it at williams town two weeks ago, i was sort of elated that i still felt him in me. but when we got here, every night i just feel like i'm talking to these people. i fell like gi away i don't ever think about the breathing or contortion. i feel like i'm actually making sense of the words more. >> does it vary from night to night. >> oh my god. >> what's that about? >> it's about these people the audience, or the character or the play. >> they influence you. >> they set up the rhythm of the play. they are a part, they are a musical instrument. >> it may not be like -- >> i hope not. >> because they give you energy. they give you insight. >> and rhythm, yeah, it's rhythm. i mean they there were three performances where i realized, my friend was coming. so robert de niro was going to show up. ri thinking he's the bestment i don't want him to see me acting ever. so what i started to do was i realized here's the audience. and you know, i started to realize that i wasn't facing the aud

i tried texting him, i tried calling him. you know, i began to cry and i just hit my knees and prayed. >> in past experience, if i start panicking right away, i just get myself worked up. so i just tried not to worry about it. i thought i'll hear from him in the morning or the next evening. >> there was a ticker on the bottom of whatever news channel it was and it said something to the effect that there was an attack on the annex in benghazi. and my heart dropped and i'm like gosh, how am i going to tell the kids? and that was my first reaction. >> let me take you to when the bigger convoy arrives. they finally get there, there's 50 cars, there's technicals with the big mounted machine guns. >> it was a mean convoy. i remember the first vehicle coming in, i had my gun on him and i reached my hand off with my off hand and i went like this. and he reached out the car and did like that and a big smile. one thing that we learn on these jobs is you have to know how to read people. >> is there a part of you guys that looked at that convoy and

the minute i heard that, i told bill, i said, i got to leave. i got to leave. i got to leave. broke down. i mean, i was just -- it was like they murdered my son all over again by giving us that kind of verdict. >> at sentencing i still had the illusion that i was innocent, and that this was a gross deviation. this was an impulsive mistake. for that moment when you have your lawyers telling you that what you did was justified, you tend to believe it. you want to hold onto the fact that you're not going to be a stigmatized convicted felon for the rest of your life. >> you feel so alone sometimes. like even though you might be in a room with a bunch of people, but i don't -- i think sherri has thought this some, too, but we -- it's like we're the only ones in this room that their son was murdered. and even at sentencing they asked him if he wanted to apologize, and he said, why? it wouldn't do any good. >> in sentencing there was a lot of things i wanted to say to the family, but i was sick. i could barely talk. and they spent two hours just reading and just saying everything bad

i got my throat split. i got my lung punctured. iot stabbed 40 times. >> the survivor of a vicious attack shares his story in hopes that these inmates will never commit such violence. but for another inmate -- >> this life is over for me. unfortunately, i don't believe in the next one. i wish i did. >> it's too late to turn back the clock. >> i looked down. there was a knife and i just stabbed her like 17 times apparently. >> and now -- >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> the pain of incarceration begins to take a toll. >> like a dog [ bleep ] jabbed with a stick all day long. i'm pissed off. >> i understand that. >> i'm pissed off. >> no kidding. ♪ oh yea ♪ oh yea >>> charleston south carolina is rich in civil war landmarks including the old city jail. an operation between 1902 and 1939. the occupants include a prison of war between the army and pirates. today, the charleston county jail is the sheriff al cannon detention center. it houses about 1300 men and women. >> selling some cookies for some noodles, man. got to keep their stomachs ful

i was not able to believe i was chris. i know it sounds crazy but when we were shooting, i felt his presence. he was taking care of me and a lot of people would come on set who knew chris and think the balls of this guy who would think he could play this guy. they started to believe it. the two guys at the end of the movie, one of them knew chris and i could feel that he was there. >> it was much more than simply being a great shooter. being a great sniper. >> a couple of things. he happened to be at the right place at the right time. he was very savvy in terms of where to set up his gun. he always had a knack for that and had a knack for sussing out what was a possible target. >> he sensed the target better than most. >> these marines keep brushing like they are -- rushing in, they will get their asses shot off. i will coach them up. >> we need you. >> the deadliest job is here. do you have some kind of savior complex? >> i just want to get the bad guy. >> they think they are invincible. you keep banging on the long gun wit

i have a baseball player -- but it is a measure, i think of the man. i think mrs. sh is fantastic. i would not want to be her husband. [laughter] she really rules the roost. i remember when she made her first appearance as first lady on saint -- onstage at the kennedy center. this is coming after eight years of nancy reagan, who was a very different kind of woman. she walked out like this, and she walked up to this lady, and she took the microphone and said, well, what you see is what you get. [laughter] i thought, good for you. did we get out of sequence or something? i don't think so. i think he is emerging. >> that is his hair, anyway. >> i interviewed reagan in the white house very soon after he was shot. i thought it was wonderful that he would be willing to do an interview so soon. when i went in to sit down with him, i was studying him to see if there was any sign of the stress or the trauma or the loss of weight, the scar on his head, anything, any sign. nothing. i was within 3-4 feet of him. absolutely incredible. he looked not like an older feller who has

i thought i would have. one thing led to another. i read a couple of books the kind of inspired me and here i am. >> what kind of music was scooter braun listening to when he was 13 years old? >> 13? that was my bar mitzvah circuit. [laughter] i like to move it, move it. that was i big one. i was a big michael jackson fan. i loved boys to men. i was the first kid in the suburbs to discover biggie. i played in a basketball camp and my roommates were from harlem. they were like, "you don't know notorious?" i went back to the suburbs with this mix tape. when it hit the radio four months later i felt i owned it. it gave me for the first time the idea of self discovery of music. >> can you sing? >> till about puberty. >> can you dance? >> my first job ever was dancing at bar mitzvahs and weddings on the weekends for $150. >> how about playing an instrument? >> my instrument was always my ear. i knew what songs to make the audience move at the right time. >> one of the values of your company is have a super-human work ethic. what's the origi

i have not. i had a situation earlier -- no, i have not. i had a situation earlier this year where senator wyden was going to call me, and of course, he did not, and it was on this subject. >> in fact, it is not just have to be udall. you are saying udall because he is the outgoing senator. .> there is no political risk he stated on the floor and privately that he would like to spend a major portion of his time out of office going after this secrecy problem and going after torture, and revealing that. the best way to do that right now is to reveal the entire study before january, and that way he can mine that, and so can scholars and reporters. keep in mind, snowden made moot the issue of members of the intelligence committee releasing with the nsa was doing, but they knew it. they talked about it internally, but they never said anything about it publicly. the only thing that binds them is pair pressure. when the republican say they are going to stop them -- -- p pressure. when the republican say they are going to stop them -- unless you phy

i appreciate that. i appreciate that message. i am here tonight for one simple reason, and it is because, as i iote a few notes down -- think it is very clear that in this committee, this is what are the most important committees we have in the congress. everyone,pply to including the president of the united states. it is my opinion that the president will hurt the american people. it is unconstitutional granting of work permits, and i think the president recognizes that. timing is everything. the time i believed to stop the president is now, which is why i am urging this committee to allow the vote on the amendments -- these are all good amendments. i think the president, himself, demonstrated that he understands the importance of timing. i think we saw that this fall. he cynically waited until after the election to announce his work permit order, after the election results were in. he knew the american people were not in support of his actions, and that is why he chose that timing. timing is everything. the president also chose n

i knew the cabinet well. i knew from what i had heard from al hague and others, that they would like the opportunity to present their views and to logging me to make the decision. i respect of the but i was not about to allow them to get me to resign. it had to be my own decision taken at my own way at the right time. i did not want to give them that opportunity. the second reason was even more important, however. there could not have been a. of 48 hours -- a period of 48 hours where it was going to be known that i was going to be resigning. i know that many of them probably did not appreciate the fact that i did not tell him, just as many did not appreciate the fact that i did not tell them i was going to china. but at times you have to keep your counsel, and i felt that at the time, this was one of those times. right after the cabinet meeting, i asked henry to come in, and i told him of course. we had to inform foreign governments of course, that sort of thing. he supported the decision, he regretted it, but it was asking too

>> guest: i have a couple of things that i do. i am part of a researching occult social science research institute and that is the unit composed of people doing research in the social science and disciplined and i do a lot of research. i'm also a social entrepreneur, so i direct the nonprofit called page, partnership for appalachian girls education. and there i work with appalachian girls in middle-school and help them get educational opportunity and access. i have a couple different hats i wear at the university. a researcher in our social entrepreneur. >> host: social entrepreneur. is that a new term? i think it was coined by nicholas kristof. it was a widely used term. people like you basically direct nonprofits and different things in the nonprofit air. >> host: how did you get involved with appalachian girls in middle-school in western north carolina? >> guest: that is a long story i wrote about. it really begins with my own history. i grew up in a tiny little miltown in the mountains of north carolina and i was the first in my

i, uh--i-i had other ideas. wanted to talk about royalties and stuff like that instead of, you know, just a clear percentage. i don't know if i'm willing to give up any ownership of the business. >> the reason that i don't want to be a lender is because i want to be on the elevator. if i didn't think there was something good, i would be a lender at a high rate. >> right. >> but i think there's something here. i want to invest my money in mr. green tea for two simple reasons--i know it's safe, because they have the financial controls in place, and they manage their money probably better than i've seen any business so far, and i know my return on capital is gonna exceed my expectations. i think my offer is very fair. i think my offer is well thought-out. i mean, without me, you're gonna stay a $2-million company until he's 60. >> this is something i would really have to think about. >> that's a real check, by the way. >> i--i see that. >> [laughs] >> i--[sighs]--i-i have to think about it a little bit. >> well, let

i think, i think i want to do a drama. ot to be taken serious just because the story is to be told. >> rose: like nat turner. >> i would not mind doing the nat turner story. i can't believe i have lived to see the day that hollywood's bankrolling black stories again with big budgets. so yeah, the nat turner story intrigues me. it's like when we hear the name nat turner we think it's a big guy but when you read about nat turner. >> he's a nerd. >> he's a nerd. an educated slave who told him how to play the piano and read and all this stuff and nat turner didn't even like black people. nat turner was a snob. and nat turner, his-- pa master goes broke, sells him away and is being treated like a slave for the first time in his life. and he's kind of-- i can't say he lost his mind. he either lost his mind or found his mind. and thus we have this big revolt. and you know, the biggest slave revolt in the history of america. so i don't know, it's just an interesting story to me. it's an interesting thing to play. and it's an action

okay, i know that i was born a male, i know that. that i can know. but i live as a woman. i see myself as a woman. i like to be respected and dressed as a woman. my ex-husband, my deceased husband, he was very overprotective. he just insisted beating on me. beating me, beating me. i manipulated to get away from him. ran up to the kitchen. you know, they had this knife set. the biggest handle that i seen, i grabbed it. and i ran outside. he was standing there. i just stabbed him. he fell. i stabbed him again. they grabbed me. and i was covered in blood. they called the police. i still had the knife in my hand. they came. they retrieved the knife. and -- handcuffed me. i've been locked up ever since. >> once locked up, marcus was quick to develop prison romances and is currently on her third prison marriage. >> i see him as a man, a straight man, that's how i see it. you know? he is a man. he's my husband. i am a woman, i am his wife. >> let me wrap my hair down. >> we exchanged vows. you know. he opened his matter to me, opened my heart to him. we vowed to be best friends. f

am so happy, i am his confidant, and i say i am flattered and i say too little trust has maimed my life. i trust you. trust is an important thing. and i love him. i have such true, real feelings for him. >> this is one more layer, that unpeeling. >> i find it deeply heartbreaking that he has never seen a woman naked or nude in front of him with an outpouring of affection and he has never had a moment to view someone that he loves naked in a chaste, sexual or chaste way and our relationship runs that fine line that it is a sexual and a chaste love affair mixed into one. the moment of the disrobing, it is hard to explain because i have done so much work as an actress at this point in my life and i have had so many deep and emotional moments in my work that -- incredible parts i have been afforded, but there is something about this woman. that is difficult every night, and it has never gotten easy and i hope it never does. it is always a moment of sadness and loss and yet, i would not want to change a moment of it. i would not do anyt

>> back then i was probably -- i think i was pretty proud of what i had done. nally gotten away from that. now -- it was stupid, it was pointless, and two people died for nothing. >> after he was incarcerated, brown reached out to his friend's mother, vicki. >> it was very scary to me. i was shocked, and i didn't understand how that could happen, and i guess i was selfish that i didn't want to just openly accept that phone call right away, but i'm grateful to him, yeah, i'm very grateful. >> i have led a very i don't know what kind of life you want to say, but i have done a lot of things in my life -- >> we all have. made mistakes. >> and so as i go through life, i just look at everybody and look at them as who they are instead of what they've done because if we look at each other for what we've done, we would never have relationships with anybody. >> he said to me you've always loved him and have been there for him. if he ever needed anybody, he would need you now. >> are you all right? >> yeah. >> he's a wonderful young man. >> you know, a lot of people would

. >>> i don't pray with bibles, i pray with false idols, smith & wesson and being suicidal, i have no enemies, just deceased rivals. >> no matter the circumstances that brought them to jail. >> i was walking my dog, had a pistol at my head. >> she said we were making out that my hand touched her. >> i was cashing $50,000, $60,000 checks a pop. >> jail will have a profound effect on who they will become. >> it disgusts me that i'm going to be be called a child molester. i'm not. i'm like a kid. >> my actual nickname here is rambo, that's from ramming my wife's condo with my truck. >> and for some of these inmates, their time in jail will reveal their true nature. >> in here, somebody knows your weakness, they're going to eat it up, they're going to chew on it. >>> unlike prisons that house individuals convicted of crime, jails predominantly contain those accused of crime and awaiting trial. still, almost everyone has their own idea of what kind of person comes to jail. but the reality rarely fits any one preconceived notion. and the maricopa county jail in phoenix, arizona, is no excep

don't see -- i don't see my film that i directed. i my friend and that moment where he held the plank up for 37 minutes. and his will, and i -- i'm so -- i just, i love him, and i'm proud of him. and i say that and it -- i miss him, you know. fortunately i'm close to his family and love them. but i miss him. i didn't want to finish the edit. when i came back from the hospital, i didn't edit for a while. actually put my jacket over my head and turned off the lights. and i refused to cut a frame of his life. suddenly ever moment of his life was so precious. how can cut a second of his brother or something -- >> you make a five-hour movie. >> it's hard. and i -- i closed it late until somebody sat me down and said, "you have to let him go." but i don't know. yes, it doesn't feel like putting a movie out. it feels like making sure the world knows the legacy of the extraordinary person who is finally after a long life at rest and peace. and it's our job to make sure that his message is strong. >> i love the film. adored it. told people to g