credible because as we heard in the report that i see is a very close friend or a close advisor of hamad bin son and the crown prince who is actually did decide to king or the defacto ruler of saudi arabia and the other official qahtani he's also very close advisor to the royal family so for me it seems like the royal family the saudi. government had been synonymous his father king some men were searching for maybe you would say scapegoat to find a solution that they have been denying fourteen days long that. g. has been killed or is even dead and now they have the problem to explain how he died and the thing that he died in hell yeah in the fight in a fistfight is not really credible as well is that how it's being viewed in the wider world as well i've been looking at social media and what friends and family and people saying about this last statement from the saudi officials that he jamal khashoggi died in a fistfight and everybody is joking about it actually people are being cynical about it they say how can somebody die in a fistfight in in an embassy or consulate in a suit arabia with f

the fifteen saudis who came into this building and the crown prince himself because mohammed bin hamad bin solomon is being pointed out by many people within the investigation however the linkage to the evidence that's been acquired here and his involvement if any at all is an open question and that is a question that's not being answered yet however it will be surprising considering the the level of involvement with these fifteen saudis and their background involvement to the royal household and indeed the security operators there that he wouldn't have known about this at all certainly it would seem the latter the latter is not right so you could be you could look at the situation if you look at a very neutral way the the real center now is whether or not the turkish investigators have linkage between the crown prince and what went on in the building behind me right under simmons there live in istanbul andrew thank you may not in the u.s. president trump has denied helping cover up saudi arabia's role in this case but he's facing mounting pressure from politicians to reveal his business t

share intelligence of measure with the congress now is going that far to bring troops to protect him hamad bin sentiment but fortunately the tide is not in his favor now because the west knows all the details even before the turks finish their their their wealth and therefore a zick and and legal investigation because the west knows the story i think the west is extremely embarrassed and it is in a position to do something to to clear the the way for it to behave probably in the future by removing mohammed miss home and i would not expect four and no western governments. to be able to accept my madness element . in this position no other king nor crown progress not not even allowing him to be a tree after this incident dr said i want to put to you the point that david made a little bit earlier that the forces of counter-revolution as he calls them in the in the arab world are are formidable. and. you know you were saying that this did this is a turning point what do you say to those who argue. that that this people will eventually forget about all of this at some point because people's memorie

information by turkey channel stratford reports from istanbul wearing traditional saudi dress on the hamad bin solomon mosque and red dye depicting blood on his hands the message is clear these medium freedom activists human rights defenders turkish politicians and friends of the killed saudi journalist want us on this occasion and from this place where this. has been lost we clearly state that we do not and will not accept compromises in the case of his murder and that we will not even silence saudi arabia has described the killing of jamal khashoggi inside its consulate in istanbul as a mistake committed by rogue elements it is arrested eighteen men reportedly fifteen of whom were part of a team who the turkish government suspect came to turkey specifically to kill khashoggi they all reportedly left the country the day of the killing both turkey and saudi arabia are conducting their own investigations but turkish government sources told al jazeera that working together is proving more difficult. the sources said the saudis were denying access to turkish investigators to thoroughly inspect a

center a nonpartisan nonpartisan policy research center she says trump's latest statements on the hamad bin sandman are damning. well definitely firmer than ever before and he's clearly made it very clear that he thinks there's a cover up which i think is very interesting because of course that flies in against everything that the saudis have been saying from the beginning so that's very interesting and of course some interesting comments that he had meant made today to the wall street journal to new york times all pointing to this idea that haven't been solomon is in control that if there is responsibility to be had if there is royal palace collusion or knowing of this operation that he would be the one who had known so again very damning words coming from the white house are the toughest we've seen in the almost three weeks ago that's been going on it's kind of a cop out he really wants to sort of punt this to somebody else to deal with particularly knowing that there is a midterm election coming up this is not really a wedge issue that really resonates particularly with his base he'd muc

described death as a huge and grave mistake he denies crown the crown prince ordered the killing of hamad bin sandman and the saudi king have called specialities family to offer their condolences indonesia's president has joined a growing chorus of world leaders calling for a thorough investigation jocko we don't owe told a visiting saudi foreign minister for transparency was needed his comments echoed those from germany the u.k. france and others. are two main narratives are emerging here one from turkey's investigation team the other is the changing saudi explanation turkish investigators say they have evidence the journalist was violent violently killed in the saudi consulate almost three weeks ago the turks say while he was being killed the team of assassins phoned the saudi crown prince his personal assistant four times and more than two weeks after he disappeared saudi leaders eventually admitted he had been killed accidentally they say during a scuffle they continue to deny though the crown prince mohammed bin men had any knowledge of the killing of the journalist who was a critic of h

speech are not the ceiling whether he was him think two or higher levels to the count of prince the hamad bin sometimes of no we don't know or we don't know he did not make it clear but but someone could read as a matter of you know reaching the ceiling that would really give the order and the statement who'll give. the order was mentioned literally in his speech which again he's sending to at least higher levels we don't know you know how hard but at least high of a van what we have of the people and the senior official just in the minute that we've got left abraham what do we expect now to hear from the saudis i think the south is again this opened the door for more negotiations i think. is the where quick the. turkish government to try to shore some seriousness in the investigation again whole give the order or the ceiling of the us i think this will take time and this will be subject to more me go she asians and i think the president of the lift this door open and i think negotiations can happen and we can expect or we should expect more developments in this in the future on different lev

that we have some of that lies he's leading a faction possibly promoting observe the kink with the hamad bin if as a crown prince. removing. him b.s. mr man mr i've been i've been been. who is not really that much in power and so on but you could take revenge for what has happened to him in the in the ritz he was detained in that it and he was beaten and three today collect any common mortal would believe themselves to be above them or tells us so he has something changed to take so he may join wonder function to have a full scale confident confrontation i don't know how king solomon would manage that especially his now we know it is but don't misunderstand king solomon he is also a bloody tyrant like his and but he is now the incapacitated in old age and busy playing cards but not all that i said was that he has status in what is the case hasn't he stepped in quite convincingly to attempt damage control does that not say that he does still be in charge of this. we are. this is this is the old systems could or is that would have reduced our own doing is the head of the investigation is that

well mark owen jones is here he research is bots and social media campaigns in the middle east at hamad bin university thanks very much for being with us and what do you make of this story then i think it's perhaps unsurprising if you know the regional context i think if you are an authoritarian government it would behoove you to place someone within the social media company itself that would give you the best access in terms of intelligence and other things so i don't think it's surprising at all i think what's very interesting is that these revelations are coming about now and i think it's important that twitter specifically follow up and pursue this rigorously. there was a sense. in the era before. crown prince had been said that many saudis can't felt free to kind of express themselves on twitter more particularly on social issues and and so on but it does seem that that has that climate change now i mean i would certainly say that. i've been looking at but propaganda now for about two years i've been looking at the social media climate in the gulf since two thousand and eleven i would

do you get the sense then that sam hamad bin sandman has become almost to talk sake not only for the international community but for the white house in a dealings with him particularly trump himself and his son in law question who we understand has developed quite a relationship with the crown prince. well clearly you don't need me to tell you that the white house is deeply embarrassed by what has happened it's tried to gloss over as much as it's possible the incident did space they said something clearly happened it's up to the saudis to come clear clean about it it's up to. the international investigators to to produce a definitive statement of what has actually happened they themselves that been reluctant to to cast the first stage. but as indeed as this saga continues as that is. that of the full horror of what might have happened continues to to emerge it does it become increasingly difficult for the white house to maintain this onslaught of support so it's clear they trying to come up with a plan b. . but all the indications from saudi arabia at this point odd that they are try

supporter of this government not only is he selling them a great deal of weapons remember when the hamad bin selman the crown prince came to washington d.c. he held up a poster board showing the weapons the united states was selling to saudi arabia he also believes that they can act as a bulwark against iranian expansion of influence in the middle east and he also wants to see the saudis play a role when he eventually produces his plan for peace in the middle east between israel and the palestinians perhaps hoping that the saudis will put pressure on the palestinians to accept any deal that comes from jericho who is the son the president's adviser but also the president's son in law another thing to mark here as well is that there is pressure from boards. sides of the political divide both republican and democratic senators are saying look if these reports are true then her basic relationship with sodium arabia because of the gentleman involved is a us president will change and we've got to look at what we're doing there was already pressure on the u.s. before this because of their support o

a job with zero zero going on the iraq syria border and joiners on saturday for part three of us hamad bin javits reports from our crime way we look at rebuilding efforts in towns destroyed by isis fighters u.s. person donald trump is urging what he calls rich countries around the world to cough up finances for american military support at a republican rally in minnesota again pointed his finger at sarge arabia saying the kingdom security is indebted to washington we defend countries that are very rich don't pay us or they pay us a small percentage take saudi arabia which you say they have some money so we defend and they pay a small percentage i said excuse me king solomon is my friend do you mind paying for the military. their parents or thirty percent i said you might bank at least four soldiers in two civilians have been killed in the eastern democratic republic of congo authorities say armed men attacked a military holes in the city of beni near the border with uganda a rebel group called the ugandan allied democratic forces is believed to be behind the attack india has signed a five

intelligence of measure with the congress now is going that far to bring troops to protect them hamad bin sentiment but fortunately the tide is not in his favor now because the west knows all the details even before the turks finished the their work on their forensic and legal investigation because of the west knows the story i think the west is extremely embarrassed and it is in a position to do something to to clear the the way for it to behave probably in the future by removing mohammed miss home and i would not expect for and earn the western governments. to be able to accept my madness no man in this position another king nor crown progress not not even allowing him to be three after this incident dr said i want to put to you the point that david made a little bit earlier that the forces of counter-revolution as he calls them in the in the arab world are are formidable. and. you know you were saying that this did this is a turning point what do you say to those who argue. that that this people will eventually forget about all of this at some point because people's memories are short

share intelligence of measure with the congress now is going that far to bring troops to protect him hamad bin sentiment but fortunately the tide is not in his favor now because the west knows all the details even before the turks finish their their their wealth and therefore a sick and and legal investigation because of the west knows the story i think the west is extremely embarrassed and it is in a position to do something to to clear the the way for it to behave probably in the future by removing mohammed miss home and i would not expect four and no western governments. to be able to accept my madness element . in this position another king not a crown progress not not even allowing him to be a tree after this incident dr said i want to put to you the point that david made a little bit earlier that the forces of counter-revolution as he calls them in the in the arab world are are formidable. and. you know you are saying that this did this is a turning point what do you say to those who argue. that that this people will eventually forget about all of this at some point because people's memo

one of the not because he is in london is stand by and the american deep state is stand by for him hamad bin nayef and things will move quite ugly if sandman does not move to save at least not be in a monarchy for him and his family mohamed el masry thank you very much. well president during that speech also gave some details about how his country began the investigation including access to the crime scene. but you know it's like you know unsolved once the authority came from the kink then. prosecution stuff and the consul general bill didn't and it turned out that as if the consul general seemed to be not that tiresome in auto to the. beach because for some concept of the way he was handling this and the next day he of us heard from his duties so he went back to his country. ok let's bring in chris phillips in london for me head of the u.k. national counterterrorism security office chris welcome back to the news our program here on al-jazeera what if anything new did we learn from history about the investigation and the inquiry. well i think what it did it official eyes the story so far we'

mark owen jones is here he researches bots and social media campaigns in the middle east at hamad bin khalifa university here in doha thanks very much for being with us or just explain to us for the uninitiated what are bots and how how do they work what's essentially are a simple software program and twitter bots in particular have become a scourge in the gulf in the middle east so it's about is an account a twitter account that looks like a real human being but is not it's a piece of software code and it suites automatically at intervals on certain topics now the advantages of bots is that you can create thousands of them relatively quickly and the whole purpose of the bots is to either spread propaganda or manipulate trends so for example if you are the saudi government and you see that someone is criticizing your economic reforms on twitter under a certain hash tag you can then have these bots tweet on the nine hash tag example some of the ones we've seen in the past few days have been a message of love i haven't been so man we all have faith in the leadership of saudi arabia and

crown prince name hamad bin salman saudi arabia. egypt here and the turkish president named to one of. these bodies still has. and been found more than three weeks after he was last seen entering the saudi consulate in istanbul turkish investigators got permission to search a well in the saudi consul general's residence the washington post is reporting that the head of the cia has listened to all capturing the moment of her murder jeanne asper was in is. part of a u.s. investigation into the killing. turkish officials say shortly before the saudi crown prince left for that investment conference he spoke to turkey's president on the phone their first conversation since the killing much of type one is demanding saudi arabia extradite those responsible to face trial in turkey. you know it's interesting to note in messina we are determined not to allow a cover up of this murder and to make sure all those responsible from those who ordered it to those who carried it out or not be allowed to avoid justice this is not only our responsibili

vaunted riyadh conference and for the first time we have heard from the crown prince of saudi arabia hamad bin salman one of the other panelists you see on screen right now saad hariri the president of lebanon who of course one year ago was someone suggest taken captive by prince mohammed and they are speaking at this future investment initiative forum which so many leaders business players across the world chose not to go check on account of what has happened in the case of jamal khashoggi but i can just bring up to date with a little bit of what we have heard from. mohammed bin salman already he talked about the case being painful and unjustified and that just if justice will prevail that cooperation was good with turkey to quote reach results. and there are a lot of people are trying to seize this painful situation to create division he said you will never be able to do that as long as there is a king called salman bin abdulaziz a crown prince called mohammed bin salman and a turkish president called project type one really trying to show that there is unity between the saudis and the turks

son who is banned from leaving saudi arabia to offer their condolences but questions remain on the hamad bin someone's alleged role in the operation it's overshadowing his showpiece investment conference where he made a brief appearance other foreign leaders and company executives refused to attend because of the killing. we all know these are difficult days. for us the kingdom of saudi arabia we are going through. a crisis of sorts resulted from a. very good activity and a boring and sit in that took place in turkey nobody in the kingdom can justify it or explain it and from the leadership on down we. are very upset about what has happened. and of course the king has made it clear that they will be. investigation of justice and distribution to those dispose billions of dollars have flooded into u.s. high tech companies for years since the killing questions about morals and ethics are being asked also issues being raised over the relationship between ultra rich members of the royal family and silicon valley in california are battles reports. in the aftermath of the killing of jamal khashoggi

questioned both internationally and within saudi arabia but if this is as you say an attempt to shield hamad bin salmen is this ultimately going to work in the long run it's on the face of it just not really a very good attempt the fact that the team has traveled all the way from to stumble to interrogate him and the way they ruled them into the consulate. makes it very very difficult to accept that it was a random coincidence or co-incidental the killing inside the consulate but let's assume that we will you know accept that. i think it's going to be very very difficult for him to shut this away any time soon and the more evidence come out from the turkish authorities it could be more and more. critical for for him and some and for the intelligence service in saudi arabia all right so tom brokaw good to speak with you thank you. our tens of thousands of people are marching in london to demand a people's vote on the final deal the u.k. is due to leave the european union in less than six months time but talks on a deal to leave the plock have stalled and that's led to widespread concern about the

shake to mean bin hamad al tani is in argentina as part of a tour of latin america has been working on building new alliances ever since the diplomatic crisis broke out in twenty seventeen pitting it against it a regional blockade led by saudi arabia. reports one is ours. it's a state visit from two countries an opposite sides of the globe which on the surface don't have a great deal in common guitar a small but wealthy doesn't state already suffering its own local political problems. with huge potential going through a serious economic crisis the two leaders a personal friends we met in two thousand and thirteen to do what we're going to. the president of argentina said their personal friendships could be used to benefit the people of both nations. the. found he also spoke of the friendship between the two men and said it would lay the foundations for better relations between the two countries that ministers signed the chords on a number of issues including education. renewable energy and sport both men also saying that the relationship between the two countries was only going to go f

bin salman. our executive editor riad hamade told us what it was like.iad: this is the fourth time we have managed to interview him, and we were taken into the royal palace. he had an advisor, i think it was the information minister, sitting to his left. in the back further down in another area was the communications team sitting there as well, listening to our conversation. jason: they have seen riyadh as an able figure, democratizing and changing the economy and the view of saudi arabia around the world. vision 2030 is the seminal project he is working on. where does that stand at this point? what is the sense you got from him in the conversation? riad: in terms of democratizing, that is one thing he is clear about. that is not what he is about. he is interested in opening saudi arabia economically, to some extent socially. those are the pillars of what he is trying to do. where his vision 2030 stands at the moment is significant changes that have been made. subsidies have been cut. there are some social reforms that have been introduced. there are tar