we covered it through the second obama administration into the trump administration. wrote an earlier book called hacked about cyber during the obama years. really, the beginnings a lot of this cyber policy. i wanted to write a follow-up on how a new administration would treat this. that is what led to this book. >> when you look back at 2012, how is the sophistication of cyber growing? charlie: it was at a low stage in 2012. there were a number of people who were savvy about. at congress, the level was low. people were talking about, we need to build walls that are a lot higher. it didn't have a mindset around with the cyber challenge really required. that has grown. there is a lot more expertise and engagement in the executive branch as well. i think everybody was a little slow to come around to this. people like jeff moss who founded the black hat conference, he said the problem is the attackers, the people who play offense are going and breaking into systems, they can have all the fun and be creative and all that. defenders are stuck with trying to come up with way

we covered it through the second obama administration into the trump administration, and a lot of the book, i wrote an earlier book called hacked which was about cyber during the obama years, and really the beginnings of a lot of this cyber policy. i i wanted to write a follow-upn how a new administration we treat this and that's what led to this book which just come up a little earlier this year. >> host: so when you look back at 2012 how was the sophistication of cyber and cybersecurity grown? >> guest: it was at a very low stage in 2012. there were a a number of people who were pretty savvy about it but with a congress in particular, the knowledge level was fairly low, and people were talking about we need to build walls that are a lot higher and all of this, and really didn't have a mindset around what the cyber challenge really required. that is grown and there's a lot more expertise and a lot more engagement in the executive branch as well. i think everybody was a little slow to come around to this. some of the really smart cyber thinkers out there, people like jeff moss who fou

the obama administration was just getting going on that. we were very much in early days during the obama years creating a broad international coalition around certain principles and goals seem to be the next step, but that hasn't really been taken up. what we have seen is very particular steps aimed at chinese companies for instance that provide the telecom services. they are getting the companies out of the systems and the u.s. telecoms. to make sure that is adequately funded and a billion available for it and it will cost at least twice that much for the areas to replace their equipment. it's been a very company specific get china out of here policy rather than a policy where we engage with our friends to try to create a very durable system of global security and use that to contrive the adversaries charlie mitchell author of this book cyber in the age of trump. in your book, mr. mitchell, you write the ubiquity might make cooperation between the u.s. and china conceivable, plus president trump and the chinese president form a something o

obama administration. jeh johnson, african-american man, undersecretary in the department of homeland security in the obama administration and he's in the mix for defense. senator tammy duckworth for defense. she may be an interesting part for the department of affairs. salliuates who was an undersecretary is is on the list and stacey abrams who ran for governor in georgia. she is on the list for the justice department. then another big position is a treasury department. that can be a very big role in a biden administration. look at the fallout from the pandemic. and a number of women are on the short list, including janet yellin, former chairman of the federal reserve. a fed official and a senior member of the economic team is on the short list. so a number of names. the washington parlor game, who may get the call if joe biden

but the obama administration's police reform went beyond investigation funding and grants were issued for initiatives like body camera to increase transparency last year in the ferguson and a task force and beyond making a number of recommendations to improve policing in the u.s. specifically by focusing on community relations and having police officers undergo training for bias. but now 6 years after ferguson the country faces yet another reckoning in minneapolis where george freud was killed there have been. as for the trumpet ministration to investigate the police department. but they have to do so we're going to morrow you know reacting to this and since right immediately putting the department under investigation doesn't necessarily result in improving the situation but on this was consistent with the attorney general's previous public comments saying that the problem is only a few rogue officers and that there's no systemic racism in policing and not. the trumpet ministration has largely stopped federal investigations into police departments the more fundamental problem is in th

. >> my take is that the obama administration and hillary clinton campaign were nervous about the legal issues surrounding hillary clinton's emails and frankly other misconduct of the obama administrationin 2016 . as it related to hillary clinton's emails and then as it related to targeting president trump . so they double down on it . manufactured false allegations against president trump to excuse unprecedented spy operations and then later criminal investigations of trump and his team. >> as far as all that investigation, what substantially came out of it? i know we saw the mueller report eventually but as far as the look into the investigation what evidence as we found ? t >> recently we have information that our intelligence community and intelligence that the russians evidently listening to hillary clinton and company knew that hillary clinton was making it all up or was trying to disabuse these russian collusion allegations that were fanciful to distract the american people from her email allegations was brief to the president of the united states barack obama and it was actually

zimmerman for killing trayvon martin in sanford florida so it started there but unlike the obama administration trump has not responded them the bombing ministration came in and had federal investigations federal involvement and advocated against it even the president himself barack obama address trayvon martin said there could have been me at one point he said it could have been my son trump has denied that any of these issues events episodes were racist that there was any systemic racism still present and with drew in the justice department from things like consent to crees which is when the federal government says that police departments would have a pattern of inequality if unfairness harassment or killings could no longer operate on their own that they must be under the supervision of the justice department from suspended a trance suspended lawsuits by the obama administration's justice department that said that we are suing because you are inhibiting people from voting so in many ways you are by the initiation was moving forward as lyndon johnson's administration in some areas were in the

trump's accusation against the obama administration. >> we caught him. that is biden and obama. they spied on my campaign. it's never happened before. it's treason. >> reporter: as for the president's latest rally in iowa where democrats rented out a trump covid super spreader event billboard near the venue site supporters are not worried about catching the virus. >> i'm not worried. i figure the sooner we all get at the time sooner we will be done with it. >> reporter: you don't think that could lead to a lot of people dying perhaps from the virus? >> i think the numbers are vastly inflated. >> if i'm going to get sick and die i guess it's my turn. i trust god and not scared. >> reporter: if you don't put yourself at rick you might not die. >> every time i do anything i put myself at risk. >> reporter: president's rally in iowa this evening and his upcoming schedule all indications that he is facing an uphill battle in his tight for re-election. president in north carolina and georgia. that's right. georgia later on this week. that means the president will be spending his campa

there were a lot of mistakes in foreign policy and in a justice system context during the obama administration, but if they had paid more attention and looked for more constructive approaches, so many threats, so many national security threats to america could have been completely avoided, so there was both a, you know, calling people out for some of their mistakes in terms of this -- this academic article which got no -- no real attention other than me talking to the fbi agents about it. and unfortunately, you know, one thing led to another and just about a year and a half later and so that was a meeting in the middle of 2013 after some -- some help i was giving them. >> way before this current scandal, yeah? >> yes. >> a year and a half later in january 2015, eric holder, prebaga, senior doj officials in the obama administration come up with indictment of 3 alleged russian spies and unfortunately they gave highly sensitive information in open indictment and again, i had supported them and given them accurate information and the way the information was presented, number 1, i had no forewarnin

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that joe biden is going to continue to hit him on while trump keeps trying to point to the obama administration eight years ago. >> yeah, i think there's two things bizarre about that. first of all, barack obama's favorables are about 30 points higher than donald trump. so he seems to be trying to put someone on the ballot who is better liked and people would vote for overwhelmingly against donald trump. that's strange. there has been this odd dynamic in this race that we saw particularly in this debate and the first debate when they were running on their record. basically if you agree with me you'll get 20% of the vote. it's not working. this is sort of, i think, a last hail mary that he's going to try to run like some sort of populist out of queens who has never been to washington again. but when you have the senate, the white house and there's over 200,000 americans dead and one of the worst economies since the depression, i just don't think that's going to work. >> how do you run on a populist message with blue collar america when you continue to say we've got the greatest economy ever? sea

president trump is sipping through the wreckage of what they said of the tail end of the obama administrationident hopes it provided boom for the november election. >> the obama campaign spied on our campaign and they have been caught. >> we caught them spying on my campaign. who would have believe that one? they have been caught and it is right-hand right-handed. >> it is a massive thing. i got a list -- who could believe a thing like this? it probably never happen before or at least nobody got caught doing it. they used the intelligence agency of our country to spy on my campaign. they have been caught. >> there was absolutely spying into my campaign, i will go a step further, it was illegal spying. this was all obama and biden. these people were corrupt. the whole thing is corrupt. >> so none of that is true. the federal prosecutor appointed to investigate whether obama administration -- spying occurred completed his report, he found of no wrong doing. none. more from cnn's jessica snyder. >> reporter: president trump reacting to the news of his hyped conspiracy theory fizzling. >> that's

we know that the obama administration was asked by reporters during the second term of the obama administration about this conflict of interest. if it's good enough to ask during the obama administration when joe biden was vice president about his record, it's certainly good enough to bring up in a debate when joe biden wants to be the president of the united states and has to answer for what his decision making was, especially when he said that china is no longera threat to us. that we shouldn't be worried about it. his policy positions and maybe some of the ways he was behaving as vice president, those could be in conflict. >> harris: dagen. >> the question is why didn't joe biden manage this problem better, sooner. i'll go back to an article that karl rove wrote a year ago in "wall street journal" saying hunter will dog joe biden. he has danced around the issue, the vice president for some time. norah o'donnell on cbs asked him about it and the response was why didn't you wave hunter off this board seat at burisma and his reply was he was already on the board and he's a grown man. turns out

. >>> for years, president trump has accused the obama administration of spying on his campaign and committing treason. the year's long investigation has come to an end, but with a different conclusion than he expected. live from cnn world headquarters in tlatlanta, welcome to our viewers in canada and around the world, i'm kim brunhuber and this is cnn cases across the country. health officials warned that no state is moving in the right direction. despite the obvious health risks, thousands of trump supporters continued to show up at his rallies this week without precautions. many behind the president were seen wearing masks, most in the crowds weren't. america's top infectious disease expert says president trump doesn't appear to be contagious, but people around the president could be spreading the virus. we get more from jim acosta. >> reporter: president trump staged a super spread event in the des moines airport. in in the crowd were not practicing social distancing, and were not wearing a mask. i had a chance to talk to trump supporters as they were filing in. they essentially said they

the obama administration, obama-biden administration continually wanted corporate tax rate at 28%. biden says he wants 2% with a 15% minimum tax on corporations to make sure they pay more in taxes than they pay now. the bottom line more taxes on businesses especially in a recession is going to be a very challenging proposition for vice president biden. who else agrees with that? president obama. he said continually in 2009 and 2010 you don't raise taxes in a recession. it creates an environment where it is very, very difficult to plan futures years, months and years when there is uncertain economic environment. so i think that you see tonight, joe biden and president trump talk about anything when it comes to the economy, they should be talking about taxes and there is certainly a big contrast between the two candidates there. charles: you know. so interesting, as european countries coming out of economic depression because of covid, they cut taxes which means the vat taxes. which means they understand cutting those taxes help the economies. mattie, appreciate our conversations. th

during the obama biden administration. unfortunately, they smear various people.and it creates huge legal liability for anyone who wants to communicate or maintain a relationship. talk about this in the book. certain individuals. so essentially, by the time the 2016 election came around, is a complete international, inc. almost everybody who knew wanted nothing to do with me. not just high-level people within the trump campaign. including the candidate himself. but basically everyone i know. so the one exception to that was a professor from cambridge university in the uk. this gentleman the name of stephan. it's now been revealed unfortunately, he was part of what is known as spy gate. the government operatives were looking to surveilled and be part of this spying operation against the trump campaign unfortunately partied so along the lines of have you met them. well of really wasn't meeting with anyone. with the exception of this one guy who i thought was a good potentially goodhearted person. in his heart in the right place but little did i know they was a high

a new one that alleges obama administration killed osama bin laden body double and not the terrorist1 raid. the president retweeting the heinous false allegations too deranged to go into here. that promoting this nonsense has now been suspended by twitter. there is no dispute that terrorist master mind osama bin laden was killed that night by navy s.e.a.l.s. one of his wives identified his body and facial recognition and dna test was done and robert o'neill, the trump supporter and s.e.a.l. veteran who wrote a book how he pulled the trigger to kill osama bin laden he said the following. joining me now, is a man repeatedly warned of conspiracy theories working their was into the fabric of the united states and the republican party. republican congressman denver riggleman of virginia. thank you so much for joining us. we should note you wrote and passed a house resolution condemning key wa non. why do they pose a threat? >> i think the trust we have and be able to talk to each other in government circles and have a dialogue that is not based on this. when you see what is going on right

doubt about our commitment and if you look at the middle east, for example going back to the obama administration and towards the end of that administration the arab world was seriously doubting our commitment and as a result players like russia and others filled the gap and we hear talk about pulling forces back to the continental united states from overseas, europe in particular and that is worrisome to our friends and allies. i think one of the first things we have to do is come out with a very clear policy statement that is backed up by clear action that we are committed we do want to maintain our position as a global leader and we know that china is a real threat and we know russia is a nuisance but nonetheless a clever one at that. we know that iran is not going to live up to its disagreements and we know what north korea is. and we know that the war on terror finds its way through the african continent and so on and so forth. there is an awful lot to do but i think the first step is to reassure our friends and allies, particularly organization, international organizations like north atlant

but this was a really big problem for the obama administration. there were a lot of people deported during that time. while the obama administration did create daca and do other things, there are lasting bad feelings about what happened. a lot of questions about if biden has addressed that or not. 2016 and yourk to chronicles of trump voters across the country, you kept tabs on them for nearly four years, over four years, going back to the campaign of 2016. in a collective sense, where is the trump loader that you met -- voter that you met who was maybe at a diner or rural area, or working-class town? where are they today as we head into this final weekend? what have you learned over the past couple of years? jenna: that's a great question. a majority of those trump supporters are still with the president. there is something about supporting this president that is bigger than politics, it is cultural, in a way. i talked with a lot of trump supporters over the years who said they voted for him on a are excited, but to vote for him in 2020. they rea

but the pr firm officials sitting in on obama administration conference calls. to have to dig into that one tomorrow. >> that's right. elizabeth: so sorry, wish we had more time to talk about this. come back soon, okay? we so appreciate you breaking down the story. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: sure. coming up, former acting attorney general matthew whitaker on the final day of questioning for judge amy coney barrett as witnesses will start coming in tomorrow. the democrats are outraged they failed to block her, democrats trying to delegitimize judge barrett saying she's refusing to discuss her personal e-mails all the while the democrats refuse to talk about how they want to effectively delegitimize the supreme court with court packing. that story next. ♪ ♪ >> they're enraged and unhinged, and they are going crazy. you know, think of it, very many, you know, presidents never had anybody to appoint. i will have by the end of the first term almost 300 federal judges -- [cheers and applause] and 3 supreme court justices. ♪ ♪ [ thunder rumbles ] [ engine rumbling ]

let's back up, abuses abou of pr under the obama administration, fbi fisa abuse potential perjury beforeohn durham is also dealing with a former fbi director james comey who in testimony recently said about a half a dozen times he did not remember details of his trump pressure probe but somehow james comey remembered that biden did not talk about using obscure logan act which is never been enforced to go after general michael flynn out when it's in the fbi notes. durham is dealing with that too right? >> comey claims to have a photographic memory but if you look at all the testimony before congressional committees, it is just curious that he has convenient lapses of memory, whenever it comes to anything that can be incriminating to him or anything that could be positive from president trump, the clinton to have done this for year, hillary clinton did it, bill clinton was president and i think it's outrageous, how could comey forget that the fbi referral from the cia that hillary clinton personally approved a scheme to smear president trump to colluding the russians. how could he possibly

got to say, having andrew cuomo as the attorney general would fall right in line with the obama administrationden administration. andrew cuomo would not even have to investigate himself. he has put everyone in line where they could be in control of their own futures. this is how they operate and this is the malfeasance and the sad case, this is what happened or the obama administration. steve: actually it's really, we laugh about it and it's funny on halloween but matt, it's important from a policy point of view that if you watch aoc today she was on cnn, she was saying that it's all about the lobbying and those are the words she used, the lobbying after the election to push biden in the direction that she wants and specifically said that she will be pushing and her movement to get the right people, as she described it, to head up the agencies and to be in the cabinet and she was asked about bernie to labor and she said well, you know, i will not comment on that but she wants much more than that. she wants the whole cabinet. >> the radical left will allow america to crumble into a woke topia b

consistent with the other facts that we know, reached all the way into the higher reaches of the obama administrationnd on their way out the door, they certainly used this as an effort again to do damage to the incoming administration. so, you know, now it stretches all the way back into, not even the campaign, donald trump's 2016 campaign but it stretches all the way back into hillary clinton's campaign and efforts to try to do damage to the political opposition which apparently were efforts that were blessed by the obama administration. i mean that's, that's, that should be front page news and a big story. i would hope that there would be questions about it even tonight in tonight's vice-presidential debate and on into the rest of the election campaign. the american people ought to know this before they cast their votes and they ought to know specifically what was going on in the dirty tricks that were being played in order to undermine donald trump's candidacy, thereafter his presidency. elizabeth: you know there is, the mueller probe found that the trump campaign did welcome help from the russian

authority, but amazingly both donald trump and president obama have gone even beyond that, in my opinion, i think, major actions in both administrations, exceed even that breathtaking discretion because both ministrations, obama and trump, have not just exercised discretion in areas where congress hasn't spoken but they used their discretion to oppose enacted law passed by congress. in my opinion, that is not the appropriate use of presidential power. the discretion cristina rodriguez refers to is intended to take care of the laws faithfully executed from article 2 of the constitution not for the president to go off on his own. >> host: michael mentioned the controversy over the alien and sedition act. you discuss it at the beginning of your book and the most controversial act will be alien friends act, which ignited fierce opposition by giving the president power for application of all aliens he shall judge dangerous to the peace and safety, and subject to any meaningful -- tell us about the debate over the aliens and friends act. what does it tell us about framers of congressional authority? >> the fierce opposition that was ignited

what is a burisma pr firm official sitting in on obama administration conference calls?ll have to dig into that one tomorrow. >> that's right. elizabeth: pam we ran out of time wish we had more time talking about this. we appreciate you breaking down the story. come back soon okay? >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: coming up former acting attorney general mat thought whitaker on the final day of questioning of judge amy coney barrett. the democrats are trying to delegitimatize judge barrett saying she is refusing to discuss her personal emails all the while democrats led by senator harris refuse to talk about how they want to effectively delegitimatize the supreme court via court packing. that story next. president trump: they're enraged and unhinged and they are going crazy. you don't think of it, very many, you know presidents never have anybody to appoint. i will have by the end of the first term almost 300 federal judges. and -- [cheering] and three supreme court justices that haunt me the most. [ squawks ] 'cause you're not like everybody else. that's why liberty mutual

obama. they could replace the oil. the trump administration gave up on the nuclear deal and walked away from it. it is not in very good shape. they have not been able to invest in the technology and so forth. their country have at the large resource of oil and gas. as long as the sanctions are in place. and the u.s. has this great tool with the foreign affairs. that's how they turn the wrench on sanctions. in terms of oil and gas particularly oil. they are sitting on the sidelines. here is from a fan of yours. i really enjoyed the prize the book about oil. and history of it. the mother of opec. what would he say about what is happening right now to his homeland in venezuela. >> he was one of the two fathers of opec. it was a texas railroad commission. and they regulate oil production but he was skating in a sense about oil and that devils experiment. what it would do to a country. they would look at venezuela today and say how is this opportunity wasted. what the largest oil reserves in the world. it is the economy. they can't go across can go

in the early days of the obama administration, make copies of the documents you will need in order to do your job, that may be a little bit harder to do in terms of her virtual environment. third thing that we did, and the months running up to the election and after i was accumulating a list of initiatives that were underway that were decision that the bushel administration could take but they were also what we can hold over to the obama administration, one of the things that i did i took the stack of issues and questions and sat down with tom tomlin and jim jones was a national security advisor went through one by one, do you want us to take this action, is this something you want us to hold on for the new administration and then we took the result of that and got the sign off. a lot of that you can do in a virtual environment, the trick will be access to files, that will be more difficult in a covid-19 environment. but the people part of it is manageable through the zoom tools and other available. >> of course, he sort of alluded to this but you're not doing class by briefings on zo

we should note, obama did run family detention centers, but the administration did not target familiesbe separated as a policy goal. now, obama did come under fire for putting some detainees in cages. these photos, for example, are from during the obama administration in 2014. trump also had his facts off on the coronavirus, falsely claiming the vaccine is weeks away. we're going to show you how that's debunked by his own cdc director. >> we have a vaccine that's coming, it's ready. it's going to be announced within weeks, and it's going to be delivered -- >> if you're asking me, when is it going to be generally available to the american public, i think we're probably looking at third -- late second quarter, third quarter 2021. >> that is a far cry from weeks away. donald trump also had bold and false claims about recovery rates for the virus. >> 99.9% of your people recover. 99% of people recover. we have to recover. we can't close up our nation. >> false, in fact. about 21% of the younger adults who get this under 34 still need intensive care. one in ten need ventilators. and as far

in holding the line, much like with the obama administration, the obama administration wned of the threat korea was. i think that president trump hjo done the beshe could. [indiscernible] today we are hearing about sudan and other peace agreements that he has been able toh forge w other countries like uae and bahrain. jane: he also talked a lot about sorry to but in riere. some of his policies in gard to try to have actually hurt his supporters. why should they support him a second time around? amanda: that is a good point. i think when you have a debate, as 50 million americans had already voted, it is really hard to try and bring people onto your side. i really wonder if more than 5% of the people that were watching last night are even undecided. i think people have largely decided. i think they looktresident trump, and i heard this when i was campaigning here in florida. we finally have a president who will stand up to other countries, like china.i think ty important. the administration and state department have taken hardlinesh unturned, bue still is a lot of things that democrats hav

under thewas there obama administration and even before that. trump did come he literally created a policy called zero-tolerance which took children away from their families at the border so they would send a message, what trump would say, to other migrants so they would not come anymore into the united states. zero-tolerance policy was created by delta -- donald trump. he is not owning up to that. these children are still to figure out how to find their parents and the united states is not doing enough to be able to make that happen. amy: i want to go back to debate moderator kristen welker of nbc the first to raise in the presidential debates the issue of immigration. kristen: mr. vice president, the obama administration failed to deliver immigration reform which had been a key promise during the administration and also presided over record deportations as well as family detentions at the border before changing course. so why should voters trust you with an immigration overhaul now? mr. biden: because we made a mistake made. it took too long t

he seemed to already believe that people in the obama administration had done something wrong and so far there's been very little if not -- pretty much no evidence of that. i think it bears repeating that this is something that not just president trump wanted, but barr wanted and i thought at the beginning when he said, okay, let's get an investigation going, you know, ultimately that might have been the right call because look at where we are today. there is nothing to show for all of this, you know, banging on the table about unmasking and i think that that's important for the american public to know but i do think that you're right, barr should be the one out here saying, do you know what, we looked into it and nothing has been found. instead he's been absent, i think, because president trump has made it very clear that if he doesn't deliver the goods, he's going to be pretty upset. the president wants these results, you know, implicating his predecessors before the election and it looks very likely now at this point that that is not going to happen. >> abby, overnight we saw both

or during the obama administration they were very concerned it was very disconcerting a lot of the relationships that they saw between the obama biden ministration and iran and the you know the. iran with is the number one stay supporter of terrorism and the regional hedge monic dominance that iran was trying to have an influence they were having a stand in themselves out attempt ron all the way across of this land bridge to iraq and over into syria and of course they're into lebanon so i think that you see better cooperation and the united states is operating from a position of strength not leading from behind and i think a key thing when you talk about texas and how it affects those abraham accords you know i say samir is now energy independent a net exporter of energy resources we produce we consume we export those resources because of what is happening here in texas with the drilling with the fracking with the increase of all the natural gas capability capacity that's something that was unleashed by the for trump administration so we can purely act is good negotiators and we can not be depen

but the obama administration's police reform went beyond investigation funding and grants were issued for initiatives like body camera to increase transparency last year the ferguson and a task force and beyond making a number of recommendations to improve policing in the u.s. specifically by focusing on community relations and having police officers undergo training for bias. but now 6 years after ferguson the country faces yet another reckoning in minneapolis where george freud was killed there have been. calls for the trumpet ministration to investigate the police department. but they have to have to do so we're going to probably reacting to this and simply immediately putting the department under investigation doesn't necessarily results in improving the situation but i listen it's consistent with the attorney general's previous public comments saying that the problem is only a few rogue officers and that there's no systemic racism in policing and not. the trumpet ministration has largely stopped federal investigations into police departments the more fundamental problem is in the

things got really heated on immigration and while the obama administration did occasionally separate n parents were smuggling drugs, for example, the trump administration dramatically expanded the policies, attorney general jeff sessions saying we need to take away children and now 545 children have been effectively orphaned by the policy. when trump railed on obama-biden for not passing immigration remember form, that was because they opposed it. trump said biden's plan would cost $100 trillion, he was off by 50. trump said biden wants to ban fracking, he doesn't, but he does support moving to a carbon neutral economy by 2050, but i want to end on this claim. >> i'm the least racist person in this room. >> really? do you think anyone in the room believed that? and that's your reality check. >> john, we really -- i don't know when you sleep. we really appreciate you -- >> it was for the week. >> i know you think that, but, yeah, i think it's really interested to hear that both sides obviously fudged, but as daniel dale said, on the trump side trying to fact check his misleading statem

. >> next, senior officials from the administrations of george hw bush to barack obama talk about presidential transition, differences between their time and now and the difficulty of shifting from campaign mode to governing. the partnership for public service hosted this three hour series of discussion. >> good morning and welcome to talkin to talking transitions. my name is david and i'm the director of the center for presidential transition. we all look up to shocking news this morning and so before we get started let me center best wishes for a speedy recovery to president trump, the first lady, as well as all the officials who work closely with the president. one month out from november 3 americans across the country have already started voting in the most important presidential election in a generation. president elect joe biden for reelected president donald trump will face a double digit unemployment situation and a global pandemic, a reckoning on racial inequality and a divided nation. the one institution that could help address these problems is the federal government. the federal go