— except for the core supporters of trump who will always - of trump who will always disagree _ made the distinction between the man and the office, in other words, whatever he might not have liked about the matter what you done it was more important to protect the credibility of the office. in essence, the dilemma is the same now, isn't it? i supposed to some extent it is, on the other hand there is a rule of law and if someone has committed high crimes and misdemeanours, as trump appears to have done, and the evidence is really likely to happen adding to this congressional hearing, the evidence is overwhelming that he has committed criminal acts. now, whether a judge and jury will find out that he is guilty of the law, the evidence is there, sufficient to charge him. and i suppose coming the tradition, we don't enter into judicial decisions, i think you should be charged in the interest of law—abiding country, america is a country of laws and that is why he should be charged, and i realise how difficult a decision it is for an american president to do but i think the rule of l

i think u police army and u industrial elite will. trump again . hmm, i remember. that's the beginning, i spoke about this in france first of all, the mention of the protection of lgbt ideas simply disappeared from the president's website. they didn't change anything. then he called the leaders of the biggest e such mm locomotives of the american economy, like general motors there still others said you will return production in uh, the united states uh there is a huge tax rebate. so what does it mean to be suffering and so on, that is, in his own way he was from the point of view. i consider the national interests of the united states to be precisely the real non-global ones to manage all that to a large extent. well, it's different colonial. you're right. whenever you talk about it politics, but this is still an ideological narrow-mindedness, a terrible trotsky itch for the uniformity of the world. his the dominance of e trump is unconditional, while as a person - this is the vepr billhook, which goes ahead e. you know, this is how they break into the bushes. he d

will biden be the democratic candidate will trump be will biden be the democratic candidate?epublican candidate? i'm beginning to think no one trump because polling is showing people are getting tired of him. a lot of democrats are tired of biden but i don't think you want to go anywhere. thank you all very much. thank you all for the more dateline london next week. bye— bye. hello. it's been a cloudy start to the weekend for many but more sunshine across this afternoon in scotland and northern ireland especially. cloud braking to allow sunny spells but across northern england parts of northern england is where it will stay rather grey. heavy bursts, some drier moments temperatures in the low to mid 20. 22-2a temperatures in the low to mid 20. 22—2a across eastern scotland. 0vernight, hubert bid neither england and wales, outbreaks of rain developing and they could be one or two splashes of rain to the southern counties of england though not every garden is guaranteed it. scotland and northern ireland, sunny with some rain on the eastern coast. cloudy, humid start for england

maybe there will be, you know, a deadly big mac, something that will solve the donald trump problem forbecause they are unwilling to do this, so, yes, they are willing to fight with one another. they are willing to pull the knives out, you know, because, look, it's a massive grist and they are going to be doing that, but that's a very, very different sort of thing than taking on the king, the orange god king himself, and so i share ferdinand's skepticism about that. >> and, of course, when you come for the king, you best not miss, right because he'll come back and bury you financially and bury you rhetorically. with that in mind, one of the things we've heard the last couple of weeks, there's rumors the twice impeached president and the head of the maga movement that donald trump may be making announcement this fall. we don't know what's going to happen in 2024, but i can imagine in places like wisconsin where charlie is, in places like pennsylvania, possibly in places like florida that the former president announcing is going to force some of these senate candidates to have to declare

which one will win with republicans today? >> well, trump will. look. there is no pence-trump feud or split in this party. and there won't be, until they call up and stand up and say donald trump is unfit. even mike pence didn't do any of that. think about it. donald trump tried to have mike pence hung and mike pence today, the only distinction he made was trump looks a little more at the past and i'm going to look a little more to the future. somebody in the audience asked mike pence a question directly. are there any differences between you and donald trump? and the man who tried to have him hung, mike pence really didn't say there were many differences. this is trump's party and it will remain that way until pence has the courage to stand up. >> beyond pence, dave, as we look ahead to 2024 match-ups, is that not the question? policy aside. maybe there won't be many policies difference. either with trump or against trump. >> yeah. what mike pence is doing is building a strategy out of necessity here. he is interesting in running for the republican nomi

you will see on the other side donald trump describing what he wanted to happen. and then we will see the view of what was wrought. judy: just fopurposes of contrast and comparison, you are a student of history. they have essentially laid-back while american democracy was under assault. >> i can' as to the contrary, the heart of our union has been challenged. this is what it takes to respond to that. at times, presidents took extreme actions and donald trump did the office it. no amount of excusing that say it's a small protest. nobody can tell us that we didn't see what we saw on television and the president watched live in action. and what the white house counsel talked about, the president doesn't want to do anything. he things the vice president deserves the chance -- it is unimaginable that any president would say that about their vice president. it is hard to imagine. judy: you reminded us today that when you interviewed former president trump for your book and you ask him what he wanted to happen that day, what he said to you. >> for a book, i alone can fix

i think it is going to be difficult if trump runs because he will be forced to pretty much talk about the events of the last election, which i think could be damaging to trump but also could be damaging depends. not -- damaging to pence. it creates an opening for someone like ron desantis who can channel the issues that matter the trump voters without really being invested in every thing that happened on january 6 and in november of 2020. i think pence is one of the republicans who seems likely to run regardless of what the former president does. host: what are the issues that ron desantis talks about the supporters of the former president care about? guest: some of it is just an attitude. being very combative in terms of how you deal with the media. not necessarily accepting of the media narratives about you. being assertive and willing to fight back when you feel you were being unfairly criticized or targeted. others are sort of willing to pick culture war fights that republicans have been seen, at least among their own base, as to afraid to engage in, to shy away from, or maybe wil

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trump? >> i will be honest. mp administration, in the white house, between the pence team and the trump team. that was a divide that they very much tried to keep out of the spotlight, and keep away from the media. they don't want them to know that that divide has always been there. i think what you are seeing now is this playing out more and more in the days to come, especially as we approach 2024. the issue, though, is that unfortunately, i do think that pence has surrounded himself with some advisers who have always, sort of, tried to walk the fine line of whether they will be trump loyalists or support pence. at times, who see that come together, and come to fruition, i would say. what i would say is, i think pence needs to listen to his own instincts and got more. what i have seen is him doing that. he has actually been at his best. you may disagree with some of his policies. he is very, very conservative. but, i think he needs to touch that agenda if he is going to court true conservatives that are still out

i think it is going to be difficult if trump runs because he will be forced to pretty much talk abouthe events of the last election, which i think could be damaging to trump but also could be damaging depends. not -- damaging to pence. it creates an opening for someone like ron desantis who can channel the issues that matter the trump voters without really being invested in every thing that happened on january 6 and in november of 2020. i think pence is one of the republicans who seems likely to run regardless of what the former president does. host: what are the issues that ron desantis talks about the supporters of the former president care about? guest: some of it is just an attitude. being very combative in terms of how you deal with the media. not necessarily accepting of the media narratives about you. being assertive and willing to fight back when you feel you were being unfairly criticized or targeted. others are sort of willing to pick culture war fights that republicans have been seen, at least among their own base, as to afraid to engage in, to shy away from, or maybe willi

will have stolen it. if biden is winning it trump will do some crazy is winning it trump will do some cra_ some crazy expletiveial _ some crazy expletive. residential declare - some crazy expletive. i residential declare victory when his own campaign advisers told him he had absolutely no basis to do so. they knew steve bannon audio demonstrates that donald trump's plan to falsely claim victory in 2020 no matter what the facts actually work was premeditated. perhaps worse, donald trump believed he could convince his voters to buy it. whether he had any actual evidence of fraud or not. the same thing continue to occur from election day onward untiljanuary 6th. donald trump is confident he could convince his supporters the election was stolen no matter how many lawsuits he lost, and he lost scores of them. he was told over and over again in immense detail that the election was not stolen. there was no evidence of widespread fraud. it didn't matter. donald trump was confident he can persuade his supporters to believe whatever he said, no matter how outlandish, and ultimately that they could be summoned to washing

donald trump did not. we will walk through the events of january 6 next week minute by minute. e more item. after our last hearing, president trump tried to call a witness in our investigation. a witness you have not yet seen in these hearings. that person declined to answer or respond to president trump's call and instead alerted their lawyer to the call. their lawyer alerted us and this committee has supplied that information to the department of justice. let me say one more time, we will take any effort to influence witness testimony very seriously. amy: republican congressmember liz cheney, vice chair of the house select committee to investigate the january 6 attack on the united states capitol. the next public hearing is next week, thursday, like 21st. democracy now! will livestream it at democracynow.org as we have all the public hearings and you can go to all of them at democracynow.org. that does it for our show. happy birthday to carl marxer! democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democra

we will also see today how president trump summoned a mob to washington and how the president's stolen election lies provoked that mob to attack the capitol. and we will hear from a man who was induced by president trump's lies to come to washington and join the mob and how that decision has changed his life. today's hearing is our seventh. we have covered significant ground over the past several weeks, and we have also seen a change in how witnesses and lawyers in the trump orbit approach this committee. initially, their strategy in some cases appeared to be to deny and delay. today there appears to be a general recognition that the committee has established key facts, including that virtually everyone close to president trump, his justice department officials, his white house advisers, his white house counsel, his campaign, all told him the 2020 election was not stolen. this appears to have changed the strategy for defending donald trump. now the argument seems to be that president trump was manipulated by others outside the administration, that he was persuaded to ignore his closest

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will trump be the republican candidate? on trump because polling is showing people are getting tired of him. a lot of democrats are tired of biden but i don't think he wants to go anywhere. thank you all very much. thank you all. more dateline next week. bye— bye. is, today after to morning's allowed the afternoon is looking brighter, some sunny spells developing as we go into the evening. there is the chance of a few showers were still close by to wembley by the time we get to kick off, we will now have... still a humid feel on the pitch. things will turn a dryer here, if there are any showers around, those showers mainly across eastern england, but they will ease through tonight. central western areas, and afresh than last night, especially in the west, glasgow city centre, 7 degrees, in the rural parts of scotland, north—west england could down to about four or five celsius. at any site for many here, eastern parts of england, starts cloudy, but brightening up comic sunny afternoon to come, in the west, that sunshine, to

trump's purpose. so of course he didn't intervene. here's what will be clear by the end of this hearing. president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home. he chose not to act, but there were hundreds that day who honored their oaths and put their lives on the line to protect the people inside the capital and to safeguard our democracy. many of them are here to night with us, and many more are watching from home. as you already know, that we'll see again to night. their service and sacrifice shines a bright light on president. trump's dis honor and dereliction of duty. i yield to the vice chair and you very much mister kensington. i'd like to begin by welcoming our witnesses this evening. tonight were joined by mister matthew passenger. mister passenger is a decorated former marine intelligence officer who served this nation on tours of duty in afghanistan and iraq. he served in the trump white house from the 1st day of the administration through the early morning hours of january 7th

cipollone's testimony met our expectations, we will save, for our next hearing, president trump's behavior during the violence of january 6th, today's hearing will take us from december 14th, 2020, when the electoral college met and certified the results of the 2020 presidential election, up through the morning of january 6th. you will see a certain segments of pat cipollone's testimony today, we will also see, today, how president trump summoned a mob to washington and how the president stolen election lies provoked that mob to attack the capital. and, we will hear of a man who was induced by president trump's lies to come to washington and join the mob, and how that decision has changed his life. today's hearing is our seventh we have covered significant ground over the past several weeks and we have also seen a change in how witnesses and lawyers in the trump orbit approach this committee. initially, their strategy in some cases appeared to be to deny and delay, today there appears to be a general recognition that the committee has established key facts, including that virtually everyon

trump's purpose. so of course he didn't intervene. here's what will be clear by the end of this hearing. president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home. he chose not to act. but there were hundreds that day who honor their roads and put their lives on the line to protect the people inside the capitol and to safeguard our democracy. many of them are here tonight with us and many more are watching from home. as you already know. we'll see you again tonight. their service and sacrifice shines a bright light on president trump's dis honor and dereliction of duty. i yield to the vice chair. >> thank you very much, mister kinzinger. i'd like to begin by welcoming our witnesses this evening. tonight, we're joined by mister matthew pottinger, mister pot and risen decorated former marine intelligence officer. he served this nation on tours of duty in afghanistan and iraq. he served in the trump white house from the first day of the administration through the early morning hours of january, 7th 2021. the last role in which he se

based upon what you have heard so far through the course of these, caring, that there will be an indictment of donald trumpor at least obstruction? >> i will try to put aside what i think should be the case, and just talk about what i think are the best crimes to indict him for and whether he should or shouldn't, i will leave to other people. but i think it would be horrible not to act on what is now blatantly obvious to anyone who is watching the hearing, my favorite crime would be 2383, not the seditious conspiracy which is 2384. the reason is that the penalty for 2383 is not just jail, it is being barred from ever holding federal office again. and for me, that would be a more important goal than jailing the former president. but there is, of course, as you mentioned, obstruction of congress, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, so many things just based on cassidy hutchinson testimony, just hers, for those few hours laid out all of those crimes. and then you have many more besides that. >> reporter: hugo, you have been, as i said before, tip a sphere on this, your reporting has been in front of wh

we appreciate your time sir. >> so much to discuss there, the key question will be who donald trump meting up to january 6. and that will include some of those who spent time inside the white house residence away from the cameras and the attention of the west wing. the one person not named trump who may know better than anyone joins me next. when you're tired of looking at your tired old bath, we fit your style, with hundreds of design options. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. ugh-stipated... feeling weighed down by a backedup gut" miralax is different. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut. ...free your gut. and your mood will follow. there's a reason comcast business powers more businesses than any other provider. actually, there's a few... comcast business offers the fastest, reliable network... the protection of securityedge™ and the most reliable 5g network. want me to keep going? i can... whether your small business is starting or growing, you need comcast business. technology solutions that put you ahead.

the criminal cases could leave donald trump a convicted criminal, but, and i know this will disappoint many who have high hopes for this, but, as a former president, he would probably never hear the sound of being locked in a jail cell. if donald trump is convicted of crimes, for practical purposes we as a former president of the united states, with a very large secret service detail that would have to go to prison with him to fulfill their legal obligation to protect him, donald trump would most likely be given some kind of suspended sentence and possibly a home confinement sentence in which the secret service detail would become in effect his jailers as well as his protectors. but if donald trump were to lose the money, the pays for the home in which he would be confined as a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, losing that money would be much more painful for donald trump. and that is, why the most urgent legal matter facing donald trump's lawyers tonight is their appeal to u.s. court of appeals in the district of columbia, to throw out the lawsuits filed by capitol police o

setting aside the debate whether the policies work, there are a lot of republicans, a lot of trump advisers who willesident eviscerated his legacy when he tried to pull off a coup on january 6. so why bring him to washington? >> well -- >> isn't there something just wrong about donald trump showing up in washington after what happened on january 6? >> i think regardless of whether you agree with the former president or any former politician, they hold a certain standing. if you want to outline your policy vision, other former presidents do that as well. >> he doesn't have the same standing as a former president bush or former president obama. >> well, i think that's in the minds of the media. if he decides to run, if he decides not to run, let the voters decide that. that's one of the things we learned from 2016 is all of the pundits on both sides and across the media spectrum, they were making the decision this man should be the nominee or this person should not be the nominee and what we've seen from 2016 we're even seeing in the primary cycles today the voters will decide who they believe will ca

be actual conversations that link these groups to trump's orbit. norm, what will you be watching for at this hearing, tomorrow. >> we know that among the individuals in trump's orbit, mark meadows, his chief of staff , michael flynn, who showed up at this infamous december 18th meeting, right before that tweet, the will be wild tweet, sydney powell and others, team crazy as they are called, mark meadows appears to have been a key conduit. i am looking for connections from team crazy directly to donald trump. we will hear about that, i think tomorrow in this december 18th meeting. that triggers the 19th signal, it's like a bat signal for the militias to turn out, and the way it goes from there, leading to the violence, that is what i will be looking for. >> committee members called it a siren call to those mobs. what about you, renato, what will you be watching for? >> i am really interested to hear what the chairman just talked about, because i think one thing that has been a missing piece, so far, which it sounds like the committee has, are links between the viol

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donoghue which signed this letter, president trump's plan necessarily changed. as you will hear today, donald trump offered mr. clock the job of acting attorney general, replacing mr. rosen, with the understanding that clock would send this letter to georgia and other states and take other actions the president requested. one other point. millions of americans have seen the testimony of attorney general barr before this committee. got one point in his deposition, the former attorney general was asked why he authorized the department of justice to investigate fraud in the 2020 election at all. why not just to follow the regular course of action and that the investigations occurred much later in time, after january 6th? here's what he said >> felt the responsible thing to do was to be in a position to have a view as to whether or not there was fraud. and friday i think the fact that i put that myself in the position that i could say that we had looked at this and didn't think that was fraud was really important to moving things forward. and i sort of shudder to think what the

voting under way across the country especially in those key battlegrounds. >> projects president trump will win the state of florida. >> former president trump was in his residence. he had people coming up and down, there were staffers, aides, hangers on, all sorts of people in the east room munching on, you know, mini burgers and celebrating what they believed once the state of florida was called for trump was going to be a repeat of 2016. >> a big win for president trump in florida. >> trump was in a decent move until fox called arizona for biden. >> the fox news decision desk is calling arizona for joe biden. that is a big get for the biden campaign. >> he believed what he was being told by some advisers after he won florida, which was this is looking good for us, this is looking just like 2016. these states going for biden are going for you, and we got to the arizona call and it fell apart. >> it's a significant victory for joe biden, as i say the first flip of the night in the presidential race. >> the fox news decision desk made that call hours before the associated press and days bef

of the january six committee investigating the attack on the us capitol will focus on the actions of former president donald trumprom witnesses who were at the white house during the insurrection in the hours before mr trump asked his supporters to �*go home'. joining me now is our correspondentjohn sudworth. give us a little bit more on what to expect tonight. well, this is the eighth and this extraordinary series of hearings, all designed to attempt to prove that in prosecuting his claim that the election was stolen, president trump engaged in an orchestrated, potentially illegal attempt to subvert democracy, including the instigation of that violent attack. so far, the committee has... president trump knew what he was doing was wrong. he had knowledge, and his close aides had told him he lost the election, that there was no real evidence for his claims. they attempted to show he had intent when one of his aides detailed his attempt to grab the hearing will, demanding to be taken to the capitol —— steering wheel. today we're told we are going to get an attempt to show dereliction of duty. this hearing will focu

i have done a special on this if donald trump were to run in january, we face an existential democratic crisis. we know that one of two things will happen. donald trump will win or he will claim he won. even though he lost. and all kinds of state-level officials and state legislatures have been primed for this. so the most important thing to do is to break the momentum. i don't know and i don't really think the best is a legal one. you have to fight this politically. you have to win this politically. there are tens of millions of people out there who are believing in something that is a lie and believe in someone who is a demagogue. you have to break the fever and join this fight. >> you have to remember the context in which were having this conversation. it is not as political activists , but the only party in general for the most part he was operating in reality is the democratic party. that is the party people are relying on to save the democracy. in order to save the democracy, people are looking at democrats to do that and they have to get priority straight to do that. >>> next, a growing far right imposter, christianity. an

trump whisperer. >> hello. >> jesse: you will interpret what's going on for us in trump world.ation. >> i think elon musk, you know, basically declared trump dead politically and, you know i like elon fine. let me just say this desantis has been a great governor but this is trump's party. and elon musk will not pick the nominee for the republican party in 2024. republicans will do that. and i like trump's chances. in south carolina, trump would win going away if he ran away. >> jesse: so you don't see any threat from desantis if trump seeks the nomination? it's his, he owns it, it's done? >> you never say that in politics. i like ron desantis. but i know what i'm getting with trump the good, the bad and everything in between. trump sounds pretty good to me right now. gavin newsom may be the only guy that biden is willing to deport. look at what is going on at the border. biden is in the mideast. compare biden to trump when it comes to the mideast, you know, biden is begging the iranians get back in the deal terrible for the israelis and the arabs. biden is going to go to east j

and jamie raskin told the nation the committee will make revelations between trump and outside advisers, in which the seizing of voting machines was discussed. the next day, the president tweeted, big protest in d.c. on january 6th. be there. will be wild. >> people are going to hear the story of that tweet and the explosive effect it had in trump world and specifically among the domestic violent extremist groups, the most dangerous political extremists in the country at that point. >> reporter: the committee will argue trump failed to follow his oath of office during the riot. >> you can't pick what parts of the constitution you defend or what branches of government. and you can't be gleeful about it. >> reporter: documentarian alex holder has already released his video of trump's final days in office to the committee. the film, which was released this weekend, shows trump doubling down on election claims on january 6th and talking about a crowd he helped enrage. >> it was a day where there was great anger in our country. people went to washington primarily because they were angry with

uh, dmitry there are two news for russia about this, bad and good bad trump will not dominate no matterongressional foreign policy, because there is a so-called establishment. they don't want to fight trump because he's very popular, but they're more atlanti nonetheless. they are more guided by the traditional pro- nator foreign policy. it won't change radically. now, if trump becomes president and they can make a decision, then there will be a big chance. and if ukraine fails now, it will lose, everything means it will lose and it will be big juice, but i that's what i wanted to tell you, mr. general. let's call each other by name, as we pretend, if you don't offend me, so that's what i want to tell you. and there is a movement in the republican party that is not serious and it is getting more and more serious, which generally believes that america has gone absolutely the wrong way, that all these alliances. that they do not justify themselves, that they allow dmitry to beat drums loudly and congratulate themselves, as we have united the whole free world behind us. but if you look, did

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trump will now have his allegiance tested for some of his closest allies. lph giuliani and lindsey graham have been subpoenaed by the georgia criminal investigation. the grand jury probing trump's election interference. also subpoenaed, the. maer mind john eastman, the trump campaign lawyer, jenna ellis. they believe giuliani possesses unique knowledge concerning himself, president trump, and the former trump campaign. the january 6th committee also hammering the georgia secretary of state to find the 780 votes. they testified the grand jury will join us here on "the beat" exclusively. the january 6th economy looking at the role the extreme. i groups played in the insurrection. the next hearing will focus on the connection between these groups and trump world. roger stone was spotted with proud boys january 6th outside the hotel, the so-called legion of doom insurrection headquarters. and it revealed mark meadows wanted to go as well. >> is it your understanding they set up what was called a war room at the willard hotel on the night of the 5th? >> i was awa

he was willing —— trump. he was willing to play golf with the man.r. he was willing to do whatever it took to get along with donald trump because his strategic vision included the importance and the centrality of the us japan importance and the centrality of the usjapan alliance. he did whatever it took to maintain that alliance. i'm sure that chinese leadership would not condone or welcome his murder but his absence from the political stage and the absence of an equivalent figure of that kind of weight and heft is presumably not unpleasing to china's view of that. he was one of the leaders who actually pushed back and pushed back publicly again some of the things that china was doing or contemplating doing in the south china sea. find contemplating doing in the south china sea. �* .,, , ., china sea. and he was the most vocal ofthe china sea. and he was the most vocal of the world — china sea. and he was the most vocal of the world leaders _ china sea. and he was the most vocal of the world leaders in _ china sea. and he was the most vocal of the wor

when you wake up wednesday morning it will be a firestorm. also if trump is losing, by 10:00 o'clock or 11:00 o'clock at night it will be crazier. will he say there, they stole it if biden is winning, trump is going to do some crazy shit. >> of course four days later president trump declared victory when his own campaign advisers told him he had no bias is to do so. what the new steve bannon audio demonstrates is donald trump's plan to falsely claim victory in 2020 no matter what the facts were, was premeditated. perhaps worst. donald trump believed he could convince his voters to buy it. whether he had actual evidence of fraud or not. this same thing continued to occur from election day onward until january 6th. donald trump was confident he could convince supporters they licks was stolen no matter how many lawsuits he lost. he lost scores of them. i was told over and over again iny pheps detail the election was not stolen. there was no evidence of widespread fraud. it didn't matter. donald trump was confident he could persuade his supporters to believe w

will the anti-trump vote coalesce? they want a crowded field at the beginning but will they get the act together to coalesce around a candidate the way they didn't in 2016? not only are the stakes higher but donald trump's appeal is solidified more than in 2016 with the republican primary. >> it is interesting to see the impact of the hearings on trump's standing. from the npr/maris poll. 53% said he deserves great deal or good amount of blame for january 6. shouldn't run for president in 2024. now 32%. what's this tell us about where the republican base is? primary electorate is in viewing donald trump standing? >> when you ask the committee is this changing hearts and minds and having an impact? we are seeing that through the polling. will it actually? that's still the question that will be determined in this midterms. trump is successful with some endorsements in some places and also been rejected and the democrats hope to run against a trump akikoccolite. will they see how much influence he still has? >> i think som

trump's scheme there. when they would not embrace the big lie and substitute the will of the voters with donald trump's will to remain in power, donald trump worked to ensure they would face the consequences. threats to people's livelihood, and lives. threats of violence that donald trump knew about and amplified. and, in our other hearings we cannot just look back at what happened in late 2020 and early 2021 because the danger had not gone away. a mighty test on january 6th and in the days before. we say our on students piled. what does that really mean? democratic institutions are not obstructions or ideals. they are local officials that oversee elections. secretaries of state, people with whom we have placed our trust that they will carry out their duties. what if they do not? two weeks ago the mexico held its primary elections. one county commission refused to certify the results, citing they had vague, unsupported claims dealing with dominion voting machines. the courts stepped in, saying the mexico law required the commission to certify the results. two of the three members of the commission finally r

will see you at the end of tomorrow. >> tonight on all in -- >> after our last hearing, president trump tried to call a witness in our investigation. >> who did the ex president call, and will there be legal consequences? >> it's highly unusual to do that, and that's why we will put that in the hands of the justice department. we're not gonna make that decision. >> tonight, new reporting that the january 6th committee might try to call trump as a witness, and subpoena mike pence. then -- >> and what's trump's gonna do is just declare victory, right? he is going to declare victory. but that doesn't mean he's a winner. he's just going to say he's the winner. >> on the eve of his trial, new audio of steve bannon, laying out trump's 2020 plans. plus, as the senate tries to trump proof american democracy, will it be enough? we're gonna get insight on that, when all in starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening from new york. i am alicia menendez in for chris hayes. and we have some major new developments tonight in the ongoing investigation into the insurrection on january 6th. the wall street journal reports that members of the house jan

trump's purpose. so of course he did not intervene. here what is while -- here is what will be clear by the end of the meeting, president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between living the -- between the meeting at the ellipse and telling the mob to go home, he chose not to act. there were hundreds that day who put their lives on the land to -- on the line to protect the people and to safeguard our democracy many of them are here with us and many more are watching from home. as you already know, their service and sacrifice shines a bright light on president trump's dis-honor and dereliction of duty. i yield to the vice chair. rep. cheney: i would like to begin by welcoming our witnesses this evening. tonight we are joined by mr. matthew conger. he is a decorated former marine, intelligence officer who served this nation on tours of duty in afghanistan and iraq. he served in the trump white house from the first day of administration through the early morning hours of january 7, 2021. the last role in which he served in the white house was as deputy to the nat

the more candidates who jump into the presidential primary against all trump will accrue to the benefit. because the anti trump oatly split many ways. right now, it is suggested that 44% want him. but against one or two other opponents, i think somebody else could breakthrough and beat donald trump in the primary. but, if we have a whole cast of characters, six, seven, eight, maybe ten republican candidates, donald trump just love that. because his base is big enough to get that plurality first across the line. and by the way, just on mike pence, to me, when i listen to that speech today, he sounded like trump light. i mean, really. >> he's not being anywhere nearly as mealymouth, milk truck trump, that will never get him anywhere. >> again, there are many other republicans, we can just look at ron desantis, tim scott, nikki haley, you have ted cruz, tom cotton, a long list of republicans that are ready to step in there. >> but they are all trump acolytes. cotton is saying he got criticized by kinzinger today because he is saying he did not watch the january 6th hearings. they are all d

the organization was formed by former trump aides to promote his policies. this will be mr. trump's first time back in the nation's capitol since the end of his presidency. >>> the principal of robb elementary school in texas where a gunman killed 21 people in may has been placed on administrative leave. the attorney for principal mandy gutierrez did not explain a reason in a statement to the "associated press." a legislative committee blamed gutierrez and an assistant for the classroom where the class was, the lock had not been fixed. last night the school board voted to postpone the start of school for upgrades. >>> there are calls for a public health emergency as the monkeypox spreads in the u.s. a house of 50 house democrats is asking the biden administration to make the declaration in order to speed up vaccine delivery. the cdc reports more than 3,400 confirmed cases including two new cases in children. >> but i want us to be prepared. i want our public health to be prepared. i want them to have the resources they need. i want them to be able to give information unrestra

former trump aide steve bannon now says he's willing to testify. trump white house counsel pat cipollone has already testified behind closed doors. while a former member of one of the extremist groups that led the attack is set to appear as a witness at the next hearing scheduled for tomorrow. we will break down what all of this means for the investigation. >>> plus, secretary of state tony blinken takes an unexpected detour to tokyo, as he

mary trump will tell us exactly what she was thinking last night, watching that hearing, when she joins us at the end of the hour tonight. and of course, i always wonder, with our law professor laurence tribe seized in these hearings, and we are lucky to have him, joining us tonight, share his reaction to what we all heard last night. and as we have done after each of these hearings, we will begin our discussion tonight with the legal team of neal katyal neal katyal and barry berke whose expertise will illuminate the most important components of the testimony tonight. the committee announced last night that they will resume public hearings in september because evidence continues to develop and emerge in their investigation. >> in the course of these hearings, we have received new evidence, and new witnesses have bravely stepped forward. efforts to litigate and