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karen archer and parents, you're the deputy director of the french heritage society. tell us about the work of your society than in protecting the cultural heritage. the intangible cultural heritage of france. yes, well thank you. i'm very pleased to be with you today as well. we deal both in tangible and intangible. we, we raised funds to protect a historic monument. so for the restoration the preservation, i thought parkson gardens as well. but touching back on what the previous speakers said, there's also an intangible quality because there's the transmission. you can consider perhaps the, the, the bricks and stones as the, as the framework. it's the testimony of past civilization of crowd, of artisans was come before us. but there's also kind of a living heritage to transmit this today, not only to restore it, but to give a vocation to these monuments so that they're living so that they're open to the public. and also the question of parks and gardens is very important now as well, which also has a role to play in sustainable development in. but biodiversity. and

karen archer in paris. yes. it's wonderful to, to be able to, to protect this cultural heritage. and it's the right thing to do. but how much does it cost and, and who pays? i mean, they're, they're in france and the country seems particularly passionate about certain aspects of it. it's cultural houses, do you have any, any problem finding donors that they're in front of you perhaps more fortunate in france than elsewhere in the world? well it's, it's a mixed system. because traditionally, france has been a very centralized country in terms of culture, in terms of historic monuments in that, but that is changing and they're quoting more along the anglo saxon model. now typically, typically with incentives like in the united states for private domes. so there is still state aid quite an important amount of state aid, but there's a mixture of private donors, of foundations, of companies that are interested in heritage as well. and as far as french heritage society is concerned, we have, we were actually found into, to help incite american donors to at g. i give to france to mainta

also in paris, karen archer, deputy director of the french heritage society. welcome to you all.t, let's start with you. what exactly constitutes an intangible cultural heritage? why's it so important to protect them, and how do you go about doing so? juliet: think of for having me today. it's a pleasure to be here. intangible cultural heritage is different to tangible heritage and a number of important ways. of course on the one hand dealing with physical sites and object, and on the other hand we are talking about cultural practices passed on from generation to generation that form part of our cultural traditions. the second important difference is the approach to safeguarding itself and how to safeguard it. it's not fixed in the past, it's very much alive in our communities. what is important is the idea of intergenerational transmission. it has a continued social function and cultural meaning for communities. something would like to say everyone has, it is relative to everyday life, he checks our identity, how we understand ourselves and each other and how we understand the w