no, no, joe, charlie crist is done. he lost by 20 points. and what the democratic party needs in florida is a younger generation, a new stable of candidates, people that can energize the democratic base. so folks like charlie crist, put a fork in them! they are done. they need new democrats energizing floridians. >> ana, let me stay with you. you know rick scott's history pip first interviewed him when he was running for governor of florida back in 2010. rick scott was the ceo of columbia ata, when he was ceo, the company defrauded medicare, medicaid, tri-care, which is for military members, and in 2003, they settled with the department of justice the largest health care fraud case in u.s. history, $1.7 billion in all. now that he is the face of, trust us, we'll protect medicare, seems problematic for republicans, even with the speaker saying, we're not going to cut social security and medicare. >> it is problematic for republicans. which is why you've heard the minority leader, mitch mcconnell say, this is not representative of republicans.

and i can't stand here and not tell you how much i admire charlie crist. charlie? [applause] i don't think you're finished. [laughter] look, there are so many things we could focus on today at this great university, from education to foreign policy and a whole range of other issues. but earlier this week, i reported on the state of the union. i said -- [applause] -- i said it's because of the people of this country, the resilience and the strength, the soul of the nation is strong and the backbone of this nation is strong and the people of america are strong. it's never been a good bet to try to count us out. never, ever, ever. we're often told that democrats and republicans can't work together. but as i told my republican friends on tuesday, if we could work together the last congress and we did, there's no reason we can't work together to get things done as well in this congress. [applause] and pat baskette, an old friend of mine, when i was up in the senate for 270 years [laughter] knows i know what i'm talking about on that score. we passed more major pieces of

donald trump went on to praise charlie crist.so, i am sort of of all thing. i grow, i have all of and grow and i am doing it today, and, while desantis is not in the race if donald trump keeps attacking him on small and stupid things like this it actually makes donald trump look more desperate every, single day. so, desantis not responding when he is not an announced candidate actually looks like a pretty good play because trump can't even, he goes from the sanctimonious, to meatball ron, to desantis. i mean, come on! so, that is not even good. >> he is not even trying, he is not even trying. >> no, it is like he is work shopping and public, i want you to worship in private and then come to us and decide. one could argue that putting zip thing on truth social is basically doing it in private. >> you make a good point, john, you make a good point. >> joe makes a good point, donald trump is worried about the upstart, he is worried about governor desantis who is in staten island, minister of philadelphia and chicago to talk about cr

just awful. >> from charlie crist, how will he handle donald trump?ew york times" suggests governor desantis will take a similar tact and not lash out at donald trump, not yet, even as the former president steps up the attacks. why is this important? they were difficult. >> look at jeb. low energy jeb. lying ted. >> will it have the same impact? "the times" quote desantis pursued a strategy of conflict avoid dance delaying what is likely to be a clash to force the voters to pick sides. according to "the times" trump has spent weeks trying to goad desantis. >> no mirrors at mar-a-lago. >> shutdown ron. a reference to restrictions on the covid pandemic. >> he can't read because if he could read his own press releases from the white house he told governors to shut down. >> asked about the trump attacks desantis reminded voters of the election losses. the advice would be that's what he should do. >> that is what he should do. i think desantis looked terrible in that debate. >> moderator is only one supposed to be asking questions and might have been liste

i can't stand here and not tell you how much i admire charlie crist. charlie?inished. >> look, there are so many things we could focus on today at this great university from education, foreign policy, and a whole range of other issues. but earlier this week, i reported on the state of the union. i said -- [ cheers and applause ] i said it's because of the people of this country, the soul of the nation is strong and the backbone of this nation is strong and the people of america are strong. it's never been a good bet to try to count us out. never, ever, ever. we're often told that democrats and republicans can't work together. but as i told my republican friends on tuesday, if we could work together the last congress and we did, there's no reason we can't work together to get things done as well in this congress. and an old friend of mine, when i was up in the senate for 270 years, knows what i'm talking about. we passed more legislation than any congress in history. the infrastructure law, that was a $200 trillion bill reagreed on. the chips in sicience act, co

and charlie crist is an alligator. if you see it, say out of the tanning booth. what would gavin newsom's claim to fame be. >> desantis is trying to figure out what to to with people coming to his state, and newsom is chasing them as they leave the state, probably in better shape but -- >> make govern money for umall. u-haul. >> there is a lmg long way to go, nikki haley was a governor, should we brace ourselves sorry south carolina stereotypes are they will just call her an old bag from here to finish line. >> once you start name-calling. jimmy: that assault they got. >> stop texting me i'm fat every time i do a tv hit. >> that's all i got. >> shame on you abby hornacek. >> devito. would you bet against desantis right now. >> i think that america is ready for a first italian american president, i look forward to seeing him mowing the white house lawn with a white tank top and dress shoes. jimmy: that would be great, you know trump tried 13 nicknames, they are not great. if you are watching, in i know you are, meat ball ron is not great who. >> who is anti-meat b

he's praising democrat charlie crist, who lost to desantis 40-60. >> first of all, that's probably therida tourism board announcement that you can have. but look, he's obsessed with ron desantis. because he's insecure about desantis taking his nomination away from him. so he's acting like a petulant child. >> i mean, his strategy has been to not engage and just take it to democrats, take it to the media, take it to teachers, et cetera, et cetera. but he has not criticized donald trump. >> and what's interesting is that he can afford not to right now, and he isn't being pounded out of the public arena. i do think the fact that these are truths, not tweets, makes a big difference. if donald trump were still on twitter -- >> he's been allowed back. >> but he's not using that platform. the effect of that platform was far more, frankly efficacious for him, needing you to go to a site to tell people what he said. to some level, that's contained donald trump's radius of damage. >> is it also possible that it's just an old act? >> yeah, it's getting old. he can feel himself losing the audience

remember this moment of last year's debate against charlie crist. >> ron, you talk about joe biden aunderstand, you think you might be running against him. but you're running for governor. you're running for governor. i have a question for you. you're running for governor. why don't you look in the eyes of the people of the state of florida, and say to them, if you are re-elected, you will serve a full four-year term as governor. yes or no? yes or no, ron? will you serve a full four-year term if you're re-elected as governor of florida. it's not a tough question. it's a fair question. he won't tell you. >> well, that's probably not going to work on a debate stage with donald trump. we know fights far from fair. we'll note, meatball ron, is probably more effective than ron sandt moanious. >>> we'll have a look at how kansas city has closed the second half to become this year's champions. the second title in four years. we're back in a moment. t data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equa

we saw desantis do a pretty miserable job during the debates with charlie crist.tician. he hasn't had to do that in florida. he's kind of been -- the democratic party in florida is pretty weak. i do think it is possible that we just have to see how he does. and alice has a good point. there are like months and months and months of, you know, people talking to each other trying to woo voters. and i do think nikki haley, while she will have a hard time winning the primary, she will be a much more appealing candidate in the general, and republicans are going to have a hard time, because the person who wins the primary is probably going to be too conservative to win a general. >> all right. molly and alice, we'll leave it there. i'm sure we'll come back to this again soon enough. appreciate it. >>> all right. a woman who streams games online was horrified to see herself depicted in a porn graphic video because she never took part in it. how women are being targeted by deep fakes. that's next in the cnn newsroom. i heard about the payroll tax refund that allowed us to

he pointed to charlie crist who lost to ron desantis last december.he had been elected this would have been done in florida. it got a standing ovation in the crowd, and then he also referred, again, not by name as he laid out, his budget which gets released in early march would cut the budget deficit by $2 trillion in the year ahead that his predecessor has obviously been responsible for most of the debt that we're talking about and that's leading to this debt ceiling fight. one thing that may have been unintentional but sounded like it might have been, the president talked about the beginning of the speech about the ways in which he has acted on a bipartisan basis to sign so many bipartisan laws and he said he's wondering why republicans don't want to take credit for it, and acknowledge ways we've made the country better again. it's a certain illusion to a certain slogan that might come up again in the 2024 general election. >> does sound familiar. he also gave a little nuance. i talked about nuance at the top of the show, but to the senator scott pr

even charlie crist had very good numbers desanctus did and defeated soundly. >> president trump nevermay be clear he is getting in given country wide crime tour. interesting how he has treated nikki haley not nicknames for her. >> bret: yet. >> if there are a number of candidates who stay in for far too long and their goal as candidates is to beat him the math doesn't add up. >> bret: quickly, josh, the republican party probably has a little angst with these see these posts. >> going back to sununu likability matters. hale had optimistic message she is likely. snul put on auto good face here on the show tonight. trump and desantis that's their biggest vulnerability. >> bret: all right. thank you all. ♪ ♪ it's tuesday, time for "tuesday tweets." first up dan asks bret does biden pressure on g.o.p. candidates to take a stand on support for ukraine? 100 percent. i mean, it's a question out there. if the president is out visiting and talking like he is talking, it will be a major issue as you head into this race. next up, dr. strange love tweets: do you think the biden administration will

again, not to take anything from the 20 point victory of desantis over charlie crist, the turncoat perennial loser, not to anything away from desantis, but a million people moving to your state. makes life a lot easier, and it's a very different equation. in 2018, when you running and almost losing until donald trump stepped in because florida was a different place, it had a million different, less people. the second thing that no one is talking about, because i've heard a lot of discussion about how florida should be the model for the country. florida is not a good model for the country and tell you why. the second thing. yes, there are a lot of hispanics in florida, but unlike the hispanic populations of other states, they are predominantly. cubans are terrified by what see the democrat party in the united states of america becoming because it reminds them of home. it reminds them of what they escape. and the last thing they want is for this country to turn out like the one they left. so they're to begin with and the trends in 2016 in miami-dade county and it continued in 2020 and now in 2

. >> it was really -- it was as bad as the debate with charlie crist when charlie asked him if he wasn for president. he sort of -- it was a brick-- >> eating mayonnaise out of the toaster. >> if the interview went longer and they asked him a follow-up question, he would have said, "i love lamp." we didn't get there, thank god, but it was -- it was difficult to view that. charlie sykes, this is supposed to be, like, the great hope for the republican party. the great hope. i guess the governor doesn't understand that he's saying, well, russia is not as dangerous as they were a year ago. because of everything joe biden has done over the past year. he makes this statement, which makes no sense. he says, "i love lamp," and then he starts talking about how russia has been degraded, been degraded as a military. they're not as powerful as they once were, as they were a year ago. he might as well send a bouquet of flowers to joe biden. >> yeah, this is rob desantis' debut on the national stage, and it didn't go well. his comments, i thought, were as pathetic as they were predictable. look, he

. >> charlie crist went on to praise charlie crist in the truth social thing.d of -- i'm sort of evolving, you know, willie, i grow, i sort of evolve and grow and i'm doing it today. and while desantis is not in the race, if donald trump keeps attacking him on small, stupid things like this, it actually makes donald trump look more desperate every single day. >> definitely. >> yeah. >> so desantis not responding when he's not an announced candidate actually looks like a pretty good play because, you know, trump can't even -- he goes from desanctimonious to meatball ron. >> don't you do that. >> to deasnctus. >> not my meatball. >> that's not even good. >> he's not even trying, joe. he's not even trying. >> willie? >> no, it's like he's workshoping in public. i want you to do the work in private and come to us when you've decided -- >> one could argue putting something on truth social is very private, considering how small his following is. >> you make a good point, john. >> oh, my god. >> but joe is right, that donald trump is behaving like the upstart. he was

and i'm dead serious, standing behind your podium at very staged events, again, charlie crist asked him a basic questions, are you going to run for president, and he looked lost. a sheep wandering around the field looking for his shepherd. a look donald trump has never had. the only time i've seen donald trump look that confused is when somebody put a big mac and a bucket of kentucky fried chicken in front of him. >> was he that confused that is? i don't know. >> i'm a little bit more bullish that -- >> on desantis? >> yeah, just because there's an appetite among republicans for someone other than trump. i'm not saying trump doesn't own a huge -- >> why don't we talk about the "politico" morning consult this morning. >> yes, thank you for that opportunity. we did a poll, looked at the preference of gop voters. what you can see is -- >> shocking. >> shocking numbers here. important ones, nonetheless. they want a conservative. they want no one under 70. >> that actually is the takeaway line. >> that and also i thought the number that was intriguing of these numbers was the political outsi

theory and extreme gender theory and run his state in reelection by 19 points, in case of charlie christ, cristt to him, a lot of president trump's attacks are not stic sticking. you can't call him lockdown ron. you can't really go after him on some of those issues. that is where trump is coming off looking from a point of weakness and it looks desperate this early on. kennedy: so, what happens between the two? you don't have to like either. but i know you are a consumer of political blood sport? >> kennedy it is anyone's case, i think that trump and desantis will keep doi going at each other, the question is whether nikki haley, can actually make the case, they are nuts you were so sick of the chaos and of the tweeting and of the really hard right culture wars, that can't win independent voters. i'm not sure i think that it desantis and trump right now is the race, i think for the nomination, neither of those can bring in the independent voters, i don't know where the republican electorate is are they so sick of trump and losing under trump they are ready to try someone else. kennedy: it is in

but i have never seen -- listen, charlie crist, a couple times that charlie had desantis looking lostun for president? and desantis is -- you're like, wait, this is the great hope for republicans? >> he did win florida by 30 points. we have to stipulate that. >> there was no money. >> and by the way, we won't amplify it, but donald trump really -- things escalated in his criticism. >> yes. >> of ron desantis yesterday. he sees desantis as a threat very clearly. >> i don't want to repeat it. it was really low. >> we should not repeat it. >> okay. >> but i will say, jonathan lemire, you talked about biden going to florida. it's a good thing. i say this knowing the state, ron desantis, give him credit. he won, republicans won massively in that state. but democrats were telling me two months before nobody was there. it was like a democratic neutron bomb was dropped. the buildings were still standing. all the democrats were gone. nobody was campaigning. they didn't put money in the state. none of the candidates were helped from the governor's races to the county commissioner's races, to th

in part, sam, because the democratic party never showed up, never gave charlie crist any support, neverse. then everybody got wiped out. i'm curious if desantis' act of attacking mickey mouse, attacking baseball teams, whether he can take that nationwide. >> i may be a little more bullish, i think, than eugene. not nationwide, necessarily, but i do think it might play in a republican primary. it is, for lack of -- you know, if we're speaking crudely about it, it is a trumpy playbook that he is operating. use the power of the state to achieve your political ends. you know, he got cheered wildly by conservatives for going after disney, for going after the rays. they've longed for conservatives to use state power to do just that. so he did it. i think it's made him -- i think it's made him a kind of cult hero figure on the right. i think the question is, and this brings it back to pence, you know, ultimately, someone's got to take on trump, right? someone's got to go after him by name. it's early, and i get it. ron desantis hasn't announced he is going to run for president yet. so far, fro

you saw ron desantis debate charlie crist. crist had him tongue-tied. desantis is good with gestures, calling press conferences. he loves yelling, especially at female reporters. makes him feel tough. he walks off, and people give him lots of money. you know this better than any of us. on the presidential level, you get up on that debate stage, and when it's donald trump and ron desantis, and he has nowhere to hide, i mean, come on. again, it's seeming like that tyson quote makes a lot of sense here. i don't -- i mean, what do you think? does desantis have a chance one-on-one against trump? >> well, i'd say a couple things. one, you point out really correctly that what we don't know is how somebody is going to perform on the national stage. you know, not a lot different than i think barack obama had when he first came out. he's not going to get a chance to practice off broadway before the play starts on opening night. so he's going to be scrutinized from the very beginning. i do think the one advantage that he's going to have, and you saw him try to use