. >> reporter: "new york times" reporter katie rogers covers the biden white house.nd wrote a book that deeply examines the influence of first lady jill biden. >> based on your reporting, is there any sort of movement, any budging inside the biden family about whether this run for re-election is worth it? >> i have not picked up on that. >> reporter: in fact, rogers says calls for biden to step aside will likely only strengthen the first family's resolve for him to stay in. >> the naysayers are key to understanding him. they drive him. they help reinforce his idea of who he is. you can't overcome an obstacle if people don't put it in your way or life doesn't put it in your way. >> reporter: for biden barreling through a thicket of pain, be it personal tragedy or political humiliation, is nothing new. after more than a half century in washington he has endured setbacks time and again, including when many democrats and pundits counted him out in 2020. biden of course ultimately prevailed in that race, defeating then president donald trump. this past week made clear tha

reactions are pouring in katie rogers at the new york times saying those in biden's circle who watchedt this think it's enough to keep them in the fight for now. nbc reported a little differently from a house democrat it made me sad completely out of touch with reality insulated from the truth i will break my silence soon your thoughts? >> it was fascinating it's great to be on with you tonight. of the first sound bite play when i listen to it again i tried once again to put together the train of thought whether he was talking about he said he brick fared like he does for foreign leaders then talked about the polling and he finished by saying the former president light a lot. i would've liked firm to say in that moment i'm sorry what did you mean by that. which 1 of those points was what you were trying to say and ask him that rather than all these repeated questions of if you will take a cognitive test it's a very valid question he asked because that's what voters are asking because they after day with every appearance it's going to be a cumulative test of this president we've seen al

here's katie rogers.morning not having a summit, that in hair and makeup for a shoot with annie leibowitz, the vogue who shot obama and clinton in march. family suggested this week because hunter and family in town." chad gilmartin asked the question, america is getting a part-time president who is easily confused and exhausted. they get fame, fortune, and "vogue" covers. >> kennedy: that's the kind of glossies that he should do post presidency photowho shot obama and clinton and the one term of president biden, but now -- it wasn't just the 90 minutes that is defining his presidency or his life in public service. it betrays someone who is incapable of the most basic tasks of being human being, not to mention the most powerful and important job in the world. we cannot have a six-hour president. the presidency requires someone who, like hillary clinton said, can wake up in the middle the night and take that 2:00 a.m. phone call. he can't do that. of course jill biden and hunter biden want him to hang onto

that is basically what happened joining me tonight, new york times white house correspondent katie rogers, who is a deeply source reporter on all of the conversations happening inside the white, and white house, and also the biden family and katie, it's great to have you back. >> i mean, this was the white house confirming today that yes. hunter biden has been sitting in on some meetings that senior white house staff are also in. i just think, you know so much about how the biden family operates and i just wonder what you made of that revelation to be honest, it didn't surprise me at all to see that i had done some reporting last year about their relationship and found out that hunter he's a he's a longtime adviser of his father informally. and so was beau biden before his death in 2015? their father would call them constantly for their input on politics and otherwise that hasn't changed with change with hunter. and in fact, hunters involvement has encompass speech, writing at the white house. he weighs in on. he has weighed in an honore at least one speech particularly related to democra

katie rogers at the "new york times". th biden ty that he'sdays days from salvaging his candidacy. you have politic salvo people saying the president has shown resolve and moving forward, but is privately expresseshown red. you have nbc. biden privately remains torn between defiance t and acceptance. do you think there's something to this reporting that parre iit has questionedhe? >> well, unless he's being totally lied to, he has to have questions. i mean he was losing before the debate. now, after the debate, he's losing even or worse.ng and the swing states are all falling away probably m hiand blue states are followie right behind him. it reminds mhind he of a senior citizen relative. when you have to take the car oru keys away from them becauses they're really not safe to drive anymore. e th safe tothey want to keep du i get it. but, you know, the adults to step in at some point, this is not getting any better for joe bide ie poinn. >> it's not miranda, you know,gr a thing or two about cover ups. you know about the hunter biden laptopt that was covered up as russian disinforma

katie rogers, thanks for sharing it with us. we appreciate it thank you. boris happening now, president biden is back on the world stage. >> he's taking part in the first working session of the nato summit as the alliance marks 75 years of the military defense pact, the president is trying to reassure leaders in the alliance about the future of nato and his own leadership amid growing concerns about his fitness for office, and donald trump's possible return to the white house. cnn's alex marquardt is joining us now, live from the nato summit in washington. so alex is the upcoming us election and the possibility of another trump term, heavy on the minds of these leaders well, boris, certainly this discussion over biden and his political future is something that is hanging over this entire summit. the world leaders here like so many in this country and in democrats, particularly but we're watching closely to see how biden acts, to see whether what they saw at the debate almost two weeks ago was an aberration and a one-off or if it's a sign of something perha

all right david chelyan, katie rogers. thank you so much. breaking news coming in right here. did he usually donald trump's sentencing? seen and his hush money case has been formally postponed following the supreme court's ruling on presidential immunity, we have cnn's kara scannell on this story. kara give us the latest here yes. the judge has just issued his decision on this delaying trump's sentencing until september 18th. that is to give him time to consider trump's effort to try to overturn the conviction in light of yesterday's supreme court ruling on presidential immunity, trump's team had asked for a delay of the sentencing in a briefing schedule so they could make these legal arguments about presidential immunity, questioning some of the evidence that had been entered into the case. either testimony about oval office meetings, things that could potentially be considered official acts, and that could be excluded or should have been excluded under this new supreme court decision. that the prosecutor's today, so that they didn't pose postponing the sentencing. the judge

shoot with the celebrity photographer is the biden family spent the hair and makeup photo shupe katie rogersining us now and what timing to have a volk cover with the authoritative figure and you think you would hide from that in the wake of reports she is running the show but the biden harris campaign doubled down seems to be the one in charge. >> we were told the adults we're back in the room and talk about tone deaf and a few things to note for starters, milani at trump was a supermodel and first lady and never approached by volk to pose for a cover and i wonder why that is witches we know why. the media attempting to glorify the current first lady and joe biden even though for years she's covered up her husband obvious mental decline because of our own ambitions and zest for power and we hear about reports of hunter biden urging his father to stay in the race but, of course, whether any biden they all want joe to stay in power because these otherwise completely unqualified individuals for any job in any compensation like working for a ukrainian energy company having zero qualification to

this is a well sourced "new york times" reporter katie rogers. what do you make of it?> i think it is a big deal. i know that person is still in the fight and trying to say that he needs a couple of good days showing the american people. it is again a break in the dam. i think that it is happening. more and more democrats on the record saying this. i will also note that if it is true the president is considering not going forward with the nomination, there are real questions about who is going forward as president of the united states in the toughest times if we are facing terrorist attacks and threats from enemies overseas. one of the things as you see more and more articles saying that vice president harris is the tip of this beer and she has always been good and fighting the fight in the townships on vice president harris possibly taking over here, noted that vice president harris usually has lunch with president biden at least once a week and will be part of whatever this white house was in not making it known the president's declining ability. >> she is having lunc

. >>> we will bring in katie rogers, white house correspondent for the new york times. at that rally in detroit we heard the president take several jobs at donald trump. here's one of them. >> you know how businessman a trump really is think about this. inherited millions of dollars only to squander it. he's filed bankruptcy six times. he even went bankrupt running a casino. i didn't think that was possible. doesn't the house always when? >> he's using fax to callout donald trump as opposed to donald trump who frequently will just put out things he feels like saying and never not rooted in fact. are we going to see speeches that are now less about policy and more targeting trumps proven flaws? >> i think there is a clear recognition among people close to the president that the president was very focused in that debate on explaining policy , defending his agenda and getting all the facts and figures right within the timeframe. that was clearly not the right track for them. they are going forward knowing he needs to be more aggressive about donald trump. >> are they leavi

within hours we had katy rogers at the "new york times" saying they are expressing doubt.sun times" had reporting. relearned biden said he had a checkout in good health, knocked on wood. all the leaks come to us. talk to our face. don't lie to us. don't lie to us because what you haired from those three governors and i'm being cynical here. i'm going to call it out what it is lies, lies. >> lawrence: exactly right. >> joey: funny it's governors. governors tend to make good presidents. executive good preparation for the presidency. as opposed to kamala harris coming from the senate. still saying that every senator sees the president in the mirror when they look because that's their aspirations. i don't know that every governor has that aspiration. what i'm getting to here if not biden who and how quickly figure that out. only class of people that could make that decision for them would be those writing big checks. that's an element of this we don't get to hear. i think biden is down almost 100 million to trump in the last, i think quarter. i think it was 330 for trump and b

nancy pelosi, the take away, katie rogers of "the new york times" said hold your breath and i am paraphrasing but let's wait and see what happens at nato. that was the take away from any reporters, the take away i had. >> emily: keep in mind one of the stated purposes of this nato summit is to scale up defense support for ukraine and the whole point is admit what? russia's invasion that has lasted for years and what's interesting to note is on the heels, as you stated, our president bestowed the presidential idol of freedom, highest civilian honor to the outgoing secretary general, he took the home right when russia did invade ukraine and since then we have 23 of 32 of those member states that indeed reached the goal of contributing 2% of their gdp to the domestic defense spending. i bring it up because it's not 32 so what happened to the other seven plus two is nine, one of the other nine countries doing it so drink what's supposed to be an alliance, tricky and hungry have hijacked the consensus oriented purpose of nato, their stated purposes. we have a lot of friction my point is, against t

joining us now, staff writer for the atlantic and msnbc political contributor, mark, katie rogers who's out with a new piece on kamala harris and national action network president and host of politics nation, reverend al sharpton. mark, it feels like the conversation is shifting a bit at least among democratic lawmakers as we've been covering during this day. certainly in the last 26 minutes. a coalition among democratic lawmakers to say that joe biden's not leaving. there's nothing we should do so we should get behind joe biden. there's a lot of conversation happening outside of washington about joe biden. what do you think of the suggestion of a mini primary with town halls? >> i'm glad james has stopped being coy. finally, the gloves are off. he's been very frontal about this for a long time. there's a feeling i think from my sense and watching sahil's report and other reports that resignation is setting in. i don't think that the relative lack of public calls for biden to step aside reflects the true feelings of many of them, but i think that you know, in some ways, there is great,

that's katy rogers at the "new york times." it wasn't just kjp saying that.eports that biden called into a campaign staff meeting today and told them, quote: let me say this as clearly as i possibly can. as simply and straightforward as i can, i am running. no one is pushing me out. he said, i'm not leaving. i'm in this race until the end. and we're going to win. hmmm. the "new york times" siena poll disagrees entirely now showing trump with biggest lead since 2015. look at that he is outright winning young voters and latinos. winning the republican nominee. and then came the new "wall street journal" poll which finds trump with 48% support. this is the highest roar recorded support in the journal's head-to-head ballot. wow. but the question for us this hour you're looking at it, is it the beginning of the end for joe biden? all week democrat governors putting on this confident front. >> i will never turn my back on president biden. we're going to double down in the next few months and win this election. >> joe biden is going to be our nominee, unless he deci

you know, cheryl, at the moment, katie rogers and "new york times" with a temperature check. so. two biden siblings to join him at the white house and if a buddy in the family valerie who ran the super brothers campaign is the one today to think about his legacy. >> cheryl: look, house intelligence chair mike turner is now telling the white house what is hunter biden doing in these meetings? what is he getting access to and still no answers. they come back to work on monday and they've got a lot of questions about national security, which is something the call mentioned as well. this is a make or break moment. hunter is sitting there by his father's side and you see him in the room during biden's statements whether scripted or not scripted. >> kayleigh: oh, jan. >> cheryl: i will say this again, they are doing a disservice to the president, a family member, but at the same time, i don't think anyone is comfortable with having hunter biden in the closed meetings. >> kayleigh: speaking of kind of a cover-up happening, jill biden has been instrumental to this and axios reporting

and katie rogers is rock solid. it rings true for everyone i have been talking to. i would this, i mean, yes, the white house seems to be focusing a lot on kind of ticking off the bingo cards about, you know, the president spoke to this leader and that leader, and this congressperson and that, you know, senator and so forth. you know, who he hasn't really spoken to for a week now as the american people. it has yes, there have been a few set piece events. there was that rally. there was a, you know, that speech the other night. he has been basically invisible. it has not been, you know, he's been clustered as he had been before, and it definitely perpetuates the notion that, okay, well, will he perform on friday? i think the idea that people are waiting for proof of making up their minds is being lost by the day, and obviously the spiral started last thursday. >> all amazing points from ryan nobles and mark leibovich who will continue tracking this with the same doggedness we have been tracking it the last week. thanks for your time. >>> the biden campaign's scathing

. >> lets pause for a moment because we have some brand new reporting in from katie rogers of the new york times. she's actually on the phone with us can you walk us through this new reporting hi, thanks for having me. >> so we have reporting that some longtime aide longtime aides and advisers to the president, who has, in recent days become convinced that he should step aside from the campaign, have been talking amongst themselves about ways to persuade him that he should end it and that is according to a few people briefed on these discussions they have said, in order to make a case of the president and to be clear, there is no indication that the president has been kept abreast of these conversations or have been briefed on them. but these aides have said in order to make the case, they have to convince him that he cannot win against former president trump. they'd have to persuade him that another candidate, mainly vice president harris, could beat trump. and then they would have to assure the president that should he step aside the process to choose another candidate would be orde

. >> katie rogers as a white house correspondent for the new york times, and evan os knows is a biden biographer and writer for the new yorker, glad to have you both here tonight. the news is not changing kaitlan. begin begin with you here because this group of governors, i mean, it's a tough crowd. even other democrats, some of them and their names have been floated as potential replacements. he surely aware of that and they're unlikely to be fooled as politicians themselves by outward facing brave face. so what do you think he told back? to get that statement out and cameras today i think based on the reporting that's coming out of that meeting, at least one of those governors was very straight with him about the fact that they personally thought that biden seem fine for his age, but was very clear about the fact that voters in their state do not feel the same way. so it was a pretty clear eyed conversation. it sounds like there were three governors who came out afterwards and walls of minnesota said, you know, we have his back. he had ours the president wants to win in november, we

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many threats, let's bring in white house correspondent in mike memoli, john allen, and of course katie rogers, white house correspondent at "the new york times." mike, i want to go to you and get your initial reaction to that because, you know, the question that i heard, for example, asking about his naps, she didn't answer around that. there was a moment where someone in the press briefing room made a quip about assuming if the president is awake. that's not the kind of thing you hear in these white house briefings. it's very tense in there. >> this is where we are at this moment, ali, that the white house press secretary is being asked if the president takes an afternoon nap. she said she wouldn't discuss this. obviously these are the kind quest and distractions leading democrats to for the most part privately. we are seeing public indications. we did get the most forceful comments from president biden about his political future that we have seen so far. he called in, along with vice president kamala harris, to what was an all staff call that was happening with biden's campaign team in wilm

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first of all, on this new reporting from katie rogers that the president has told a key i li he knows he may not be able to salvage his candidacy. if he can convince the public public in the coming days, he is up for the job. what is being discussed in the campaign right now about this oh, first of all, good morning or good. >> thank you for having me on the show about is false. there are a number of rumors floating out there. the president is in this race to win it. he is the democratic nominee from our perspective, we're going to continue to do everything we can to make sure that we're building a campaign apparatus to reach voters. so when you say that's false, the president has had zero conversations with anyone saying, i may not be able to continue. i may not be able to win this race that is correct. the president has been having conversations with a number of democratic leaders. i'm talking to them. i think obviously the president is own words acknowledged. a poor debate performance. but at the same time, i think what we're syncing from people, a sense of urgency, of fear from do

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katie harris, founder of red white and blue, jasmine roger, executive director of swing left, and adriana am so glad to see all of you today. katie, your specialty is one of the prize democratic voting groups, suburban women. what is been the reaction over the last week, and the key question, how do you then turn that into votes? >> there is no question about it. joy is back in town, and it feels really good. we also are very clear eyed about what is in front of us, what is about to come at us. and we know that with all of this information coming in, so much money being spent, more than ever, that to break through the noise, we have got to be willing to put our own's in the game. we got to be willing to talk to everyone we know and everyone we meet about this election. and we have seen thousands of new women step up to do just that. volunteering to be relational organizers for red wine and blue, forming hundreds of new local groups, we got them in 49 states now. >> the numbers you sent us set 330 affiliate groups launched in just the last days? >> that is right. our affiliate network, cal

katie: yes. >> steve: you would be on a horse. [laughter] >> steve: photo shop you on to roy roger's body. for folks who misseds last hour., you will see brian kilmeade in a "fox & friends" exclusive on a force that is standing still while other people on horses that are moving. [horse neighing] >> steve: circle around him. >> brian: i wish i could dispute that steve and say you are exaggerating. did i get to move a little bit. i had no idea that you are supposed to take control and you should stop a horse from eating. i'm saying to myself do i have to wait for him to finish. and we are all in tall grass. it is great to be a horse in so many ways because you're never -- dinner is already ready. >> katie: at least had you some boots on, right? no? [laughter] >> katie: that's all right. next time. >> steve: can't take the city boy out of the city. >> lawrence: you made us real proud, brian. >> steve: very smart for getting own that horse more with the governor and his wife in a minute. lead story. president biden after a disastrous debate is going to head back to the white house today after spending sunday with his family a

his fake news but a credible reporter in fact, he katie is te most well sourced reporter i would say in the whole white hous ae press court of kae rogers"the new york times" bureau to but it was not jusnbc kjp, biden called in a staff meeting an d told them "let me say this as clearly as i possibly can, simply as straightforward as i can, i am running. no one is pushing me out and i'm not leaving. i meant this race until the end and we are going to win here are "the new york times" siena poll disagrees entirely showing trump with his biggest lead since 2015, look at that, he haswi outright winning young voters and latinos winning theneth republican nominee. then came the new "wall street journal" poll which shows trump 38% support, this is the highest recorded support in the journals head-to-headlo ballots, wow! the question this hour, you are looking at it is at thet beginning of the end for govejoe biden? all week democratic governors putting on this confident fronte >> i am going to double down the next few month s and win.nomi >> joe biden is going to be ouri nominee unless he decides otherwise. >> joe biden is our nominee and ulti