it's i'm very passionate about the area of runcorn, helsby, frodsham and nothing nothing would be greater to the powers that be. >> yeah. i mean, look, what do you think about this guy's sentence? ten weeks in prison. probably be back out in five. what do you make of that? >> well, when i first saw it, i was appalled by it. you know, we've been campaigning to get the streets of frodsham and runcorn safer at night. and then for mr amesbury to go and commit assault was bad. so by his own testimony, i think he said he was wanting stronger sentences. so i'm a little bit surprised that it was only ten weeks. >> and apparently we're still paying >> and apparently we're still paying his wages whilst he's banged up. i mean, that seems a little bit rum, doesn't it? >> yeah, it does indeed. it's our taxpayers money. and he's sat in jail and he's earning a nice coin for doing it. >> do you think the reform can really win? i mean, i mentioned the share of the vote that you got last time, but i suppose the situation, the political landscape has shifted quite significantly since then. so, you know, wou